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marv can you tell me why whoever you think is scum is scum in the most general possible way
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na. how about you answer the clear point against you instead?
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On February 21 2014 06:24 suki wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2014 06:16 marvellosity wrote:On February 21 2014 06:05 suki wrote:On February 21 2014 03:04 marvellosity wrote:On February 20 2014 09:18 VIVAX420 wrote:On February 20 2014 09:13 VIVAX420 wrote:On February 20 2014 09:09 Toadesstern wrote:
Why are you actively looking for a way to pseudo-unvote? I don't even see a reason why someone should care about that. wait so you are implying that scum is going to be afraid of the default votes enough to come up with a plan like that? ##vote toadim not playing i want this addressed. On February 20 2014 10:36 VIVAX420 wrote:
toad you are backtracking so hard. it's not serious, yet you gave shitty but serious reasons for it. On February 20 2014 23:59 VIVAX420 wrote:
eh ill bet anyone toad is town. I dont really get marv's case against him. He's a lynch bait player isn't he? lynch bait players usually look less scummy as town. Plus I don't like the people pushing him. The last quote does not go with his previous attitude at all. Especially with the "I don't get the case". kush can change his mind on how good the case is all he likes, but it's quite evident that he "gets" the case. I don't buy this marv. Between the second and the third post kush has more posts where he talks about toad and I think his read evolved pretty naturally. What's not to buy? Why aren't you reading? I *specifically* said it wasn't about the evolution of his read, it was about the fact he said he didn't "get" my case despite the fact he clearly gets it as demonstrated by the quotes, because he's essentially using the same points I brought up. Give me a sec to mull this over.
Ok, you're saying that kush was saying he didn't understand your case, but his case is exactly the same which is toad was back tracking hard.
I'm hesitant to say this is a slam dunk contradiction because there are other parts that you add to your case later, the backtracking was only the first part. It seems really stupid for kush to have said he doesnt get your case, specifically referring to the backtracking. I find it hard to believe anyone could slip like that.
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On February 21 2014 06:34 VIVAX420 wrote:
k what is that
it's been quoted more than once and it's about you, pretty sure you can't miss it.
Run along now. In fact you know what it is, because it's the reason you're omgusing me. Stop playing dumb, twinkletoes, even though it does suit you.
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On February 21 2014 06:25 Balla24 wrote:
What suki? Isn't what marv said basically the same thing as I said, I gave specifics of what I was referring to but it's essentially the same point.
Can you spell it out for me cuz I don't know what you're talking about here. -_-;
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On February 21 2014 06:35 suki wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2014 06:24 suki wrote:On February 21 2014 06:16 marvellosity wrote:On February 21 2014 06:05 suki wrote:On February 21 2014 03:04 marvellosity wrote:On February 20 2014 09:18 VIVAX420 wrote:On February 20 2014 09:13 VIVAX420 wrote:On February 20 2014 09:09 Toadesstern wrote:
Why are you actively looking for a way to pseudo-unvote? I don't even see a reason why someone should care about that. wait so you are implying that scum is going to be afraid of the default votes enough to come up with a plan like that? ##vote toadim not playing i want this addressed. On February 20 2014 10:36 VIVAX420 wrote:
toad you are backtracking so hard. it's not serious, yet you gave shitty but serious reasons for it. On February 20 2014 23:59 VIVAX420 wrote:
eh ill bet anyone toad is town. I dont really get marv's case against him. He's a lynch bait player isn't he? lynch bait players usually look less scummy as town. Plus I don't like the people pushing him. The last quote does not go with his previous attitude at all. Especially with the "I don't get the case". kush can change his mind on how good the case is all he likes, but it's quite evident that he "gets" the case. I don't buy this marv. Between the second and the third post kush has more posts where he talks about toad and I think his read evolved pretty naturally. What's not to buy? Why aren't you reading? I *specifically* said it wasn't about the evolution of his read, it was about the fact he said he didn't "get" my case despite the fact he clearly gets it as demonstrated by the quotes, because he's essentially using the same points I brought up. Give me a sec to mull this over. Ok, you're saying that kush was saying he didn't understand your case, but his case is exactly the same which is toad was back tracking hard. I'm hesitant to say this is a slam dunk contradiction because there are other parts that you add to your case later, the backtracking was only the first part. It seems really stupid for kush to have said he doesnt get your case, specifically referring to the backtracking. I find it hard to believe anyone could slip like that.
What did I add later? The case was always the same.
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my problem with toad was 100% different fom yours. then you morphed it into this thing about misunderstanding rayn. wha tyou were saying was actually total bs. Got into to argument about how well toad knows rayn. That is how I know you are mafia. YUour logic is based on total bs.
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On February 21 2014 06:37 VIVAX420 wrote:
my problem with toad was 100% different fom yours. then you morphed it into this thing about misunderstanding rayn. wha tyou were saying was actually total bs. Got into to argument about how well toad knows rayn. That is how I know you are mafia. YUour logic is based on total bs.
no, that was just me arguing with toad because toad was talking crap. that's nothing to do with logic, that's just to do with being correct, which i inevitably was.
your problem with toad was exactly the same as mine, and it's exactly why I voted him. Why don't you go check before you run your stupid little mouth off?
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On February 21 2014 06:31 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 13:22 Balla24 wrote:On February 20 2014 08:42 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:On February 20 2014 08:40 prplhz wrote:On February 20 2014 08:36 Balla24 wrote:On February 20 2014 08:33 prplhz wrote:
claiming Vanilli Townie What's the benefit of claiming green? I've seen it in a lot of old games and i've always been curious. it's because that while townies mostly ignore it, it turns out that there's like a 90% chance that the first guy who asks why someone else is claiming green is scum that's you it's called the kenpachi strategy and it's fool proof First scumread of the day too! The Kenpachi method only works if the person questioning it actually tries to paint the original poster as scum. Balla asked it in a curious way rather than look for an opening. Why is the fact that he misused said method scummy? Why did your 1st scumread get no pressure after this even though there was plenty said and he even did a few things. Also why is me being curious->townie? That doesn't really make sense considering if it's genuine curiousness why wouldn't I ask the same question as scum? Because scum wants to call people that aren't scum scum. I've used the same method myself. Making something out of nothing is what scum have to do, whereas town has little motivation for it. As for why he got no pressure; it's because I found Palmar more interesting by the time I got back, so I pursued that instead. I also came around on Prplhz simply for the amount of attention he was drawing to himself, which I find atypical of his scum game, though that's based on a small sample.
What about me being curious -> townie? You gave an easy townread for me just asking a simple question.
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sir i will have you modkilled for illegal play. Calling my mouth stupid is an ad hominem attack and has nothing to do with mafia.
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if you didn't behave so stupidly i wouldn't have to call you stupid though
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On February 21 2014 06:36 suki wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2014 06:25 Balla24 wrote:
What suki? Isn't what marv said basically the same thing as I said, I gave specifics of what I was referring to but it's essentially the same point. Can you spell it out for me cuz I don't know what you're talking about here. -_-;
Basically my whole point with that post was that Koshi would most likely do all that stuff YOU were pointing that you thought was scummy out as town rather than as scum. Marv is saying the same thing. Yet you're trying to say you disagree with me but you agree with marv.
On February 21 2014 06:37 VIVAX420 wrote:
my problem with toad was 100% different fom yours. then you morphed it into this thing about misunderstanding rayn. wha tyou were saying was actually total bs. Got into to argument about how well toad knows rayn. That is how I know you are mafia. YUour logic is based on total bs.
Kush who is scum?
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On February 21 2014 06:36 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2014 06:35 suki wrote:On February 21 2014 06:24 suki wrote:On February 21 2014 06:16 marvellosity wrote:On February 21 2014 06:05 suki wrote:On February 21 2014 03:04 marvellosity wrote:On February 20 2014 09:18 VIVAX420 wrote:On February 20 2014 09:13 VIVAX420 wrote:On February 20 2014 09:09 Toadesstern wrote:
Why are you actively looking for a way to pseudo-unvote? I don't even see a reason why someone should care about that. wait so you are implying that scum is going to be afraid of the default votes enough to come up with a plan like that? ##vote toadim not playing i want this addressed. On February 20 2014 10:36 VIVAX420 wrote:
toad you are backtracking so hard. it's not serious, yet you gave shitty but serious reasons for it. On February 20 2014 23:59 VIVAX420 wrote:
eh ill bet anyone toad is town. I dont really get marv's case against him. He's a lynch bait player isn't he? lynch bait players usually look less scummy as town. Plus I don't like the people pushing him. The last quote does not go with his previous attitude at all. Especially with the "I don't get the case". kush can change his mind on how good the case is all he likes, but it's quite evident that he "gets" the case. I don't buy this marv. Between the second and the third post kush has more posts where he talks about toad and I think his read evolved pretty naturally. What's not to buy? Why aren't you reading? I *specifically* said it wasn't about the evolution of his read, it was about the fact he said he didn't "get" my case despite the fact he clearly gets it as demonstrated by the quotes, because he's essentially using the same points I brought up. Give me a sec to mull this over. Ok, you're saying that kush was saying he didn't understand your case, but his case is exactly the same which is toad was back tracking hard. I'm hesitant to say this is a slam dunk contradiction because there are other parts that you add to your case later, the backtracking was only the first part. It seems really stupid for kush to have said he doesnt get your case, specifically referring to the backtracking. I find it hard to believe anyone could slip like that. What did I add later? The case was always the same.
The whole exchange about toad and rayn:
On February 20 2014 23:06 marvellosity wrote:
"I don't consider that I've been in multiple games with rayn recently even though I have"
it's brilliant really.
Anyways that's what I was seeing that could have been what kush was referring to. Kush is back now so we can get the answer from him.
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Here kush. These posts are literally consecutive in the thread with nothing between them.
On February 20 2014 10:32 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 10:30 Toadesstern wrote:On February 20 2014 10:20 marvellosity wrote:
Let's go with this:
##unvote
##Vote: Toadesstern
His +1 on prplhz's vote is super-weak. Why is Toad agreeing with prplhz that rayn is looking for a way not to take stands? Toad is passingly familiar enough with rayn to know that's not how rayn operates.
Naughty toad. I voted him because I like voting rayn after the last game we had together, just look at the post I quoted while voting him. I think that was the first game we had together so no I don't really know how he plays considering that I ragequited because of him on d2. At least I don't recall any other game. Do you honestly think I'm going after him in all seriousness right now instead of just taking sidestabs at him for last game? After posts like these: On February 20 2014 09:43 Toadesstern wrote:On February 20 2014 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 20 2014 09:38 Toadesstern wrote:On February 20 2014 09:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 20 2014 09:35 Palmar wrote:
I agree with what prplhz is saying, and to the extend that I don't understand why people care where votes are parked. It's completely irrelevant, there is no pressure in a vote that isn't being actively pushed as a lynch target. No one cares. I have no idea why rayn seems to think we need a plan to address that non-problem. It's an extremely bad opening discussion point and serves no purpose. Do you agree with prplhz's vote on me? Actually this goes to everyone. If you read my posts, you'll find that I actually said the exact same thing and that I as well have my vote on you. So yes. So why is your vote not on me? On February 20 2014 08:57 Toadesstern wrote:On February 20 2014 08:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:The quoted below is in addition to votes cast on D1 correct?On day 1 each player will be randomly assigned a vote on someone else. No one will have more than 3 votes on them to begin with.
##vote: raynpelikoneetI have a plan and i am not sure if this is the best plan because i have not thought it through from every angle yet but does anyone know what i am doing? sounds good to me, I like this ##vote: raynpelikoneet I didn't feel the need to vote myself and revote you for a more dramatic expression of my desire to get you lynched. ? I had the same idea as prplhz had and said I can't think of a reason why a town would want to proppose this and I'd still like to see his reasoning for all this. you can't say 1) "I'm not going after him seriously" and 2) "but I need to hear from him about this" 1) is backing out of it and yet you're pushing it with 2) my vote stands while I go to bed
On February 20 2014 10:34 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 10:32 marvellosity wrote:On February 20 2014 10:30 Toadesstern wrote:On February 20 2014 10:20 marvellosity wrote:
Let's go with this:
##unvote
##Vote: Toadesstern
His +1 on prplhz's vote is super-weak. Why is Toad agreeing with prplhz that rayn is looking for a way not to take stands? Toad is passingly familiar enough with rayn to know that's not how rayn operates.
Naughty toad. I voted him because I like voting rayn after the last game we had together, just look at the post I quoted while voting him. I think that was the first game we had together so no I don't really know how he plays considering that I ragequited because of him on d2. At least I don't recall any other game. Do you honestly think I'm going after him in all seriousness right now instead of just taking sidestabs at him for last game? After posts like these: On February 20 2014 09:43 Toadesstern wrote:On February 20 2014 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 20 2014 09:38 Toadesstern wrote:On February 20 2014 09:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 20 2014 09:35 Palmar wrote:
I agree with what prplhz is saying, and to the extend that I don't understand why people care where votes are parked. It's completely irrelevant, there is no pressure in a vote that isn't being actively pushed as a lynch target. No one cares. I have no idea why rayn seems to think we need a plan to address that non-problem. It's an extremely bad opening discussion point and serves no purpose. Do you agree with prplhz's vote on me? Actually this goes to everyone. If you read my posts, you'll find that I actually said the exact same thing and that I as well have my vote on you. So yes. So why is your vote not on me? On February 20 2014 08:57 Toadesstern wrote:On February 20 2014 08:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:The quoted below is in addition to votes cast on D1 correct?On day 1 each player will be randomly assigned a vote on someone else. No one will have more than 3 votes on them to begin with.
##vote: raynpelikoneetI have a plan and i am not sure if this is the best plan because i have not thought it through from every angle yet but does anyone know what i am doing? sounds good to me, I like this ##vote: raynpelikoneet I didn't feel the need to vote myself and revote you for a more dramatic expression of my desire to get you lynched. ? I had the same idea as prplhz had and said I can't think of a reason why a town would want to proppose this and I'd still like to see his reasoning for all this. you can't say 1) "I'm not going after him seriously" and 2) "but I need to hear from him about this" 1) is backing out of it and yet you're pushing it with 2) my vote stands while I go to bed you don't seem to have gotten the timeline of events correct. First I voted him, then I asked him about this and why he's doing that. So yeah I actually can say that because that's how it went down
On February 20 2014 10:36 VIVAX420 wrote:
toad you are backtracking so hard. it's not serious, yet you gave shitty but serious reasons for it.
You quite agree with why I was pushing Toad as mafia
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On February 21 2014 06:41 Balla24 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2014 06:36 suki wrote:On February 21 2014 06:25 Balla24 wrote:
What suki? Isn't what marv said basically the same thing as I said, I gave specifics of what I was referring to but it's essentially the same point. Can you spell it out for me cuz I don't know what you're talking about here. -_-; Basically my whole point with that post was that Koshi would most likely do all that stuff YOU were pointing that you thought was scummy out as town rather than as scum. Marv is saying the same thing. Yet you're trying to say you disagree with me but you agree with marv. Show nested quote +On February 21 2014 06:37 VIVAX420 wrote:
my problem with toad was 100% different fom yours. then you morphed it into this thing about misunderstanding rayn. wha tyou were saying was actually total bs. Got into to argument about how well toad knows rayn. That is how I know you are mafia. YUour logic is based on total bs. Kush who is scum?
i probably have to do some rereadining to answer this intelligently.
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oh lol that thing wasn't a big deal for me
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you'd put your vote on him... but whatever, talking with you is useless, go do something else
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it literally doens't matter that we both found him scummy. what matters is my reasons were townie and yours made no sense.
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