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JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 05 2014 23:34 GMT
#8
On February 06 2014 08:32 jaybrundage wrote:
Jonny please no tunnel


Man I felt so vindicated when LM flipped doc. The let down.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 05 2014 23:39 GMT
#13
On February 06 2014 08:37 suki wrote:
Okay but my problem with not letting people talk me out of a case is that I'm never right about my reads anyways


That's not true.

On January 25 2014 02:15 suki wrote:
No we definitely lynch Artanis. Nothing is stopping this lynch.

JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 01:04 GMT
#70
On February 06 2014 09:00 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 08:34 JonnyLaw wrote:
On February 06 2014 08:32 jaybrundage wrote:
Jonny please no tunnel


Man I felt so vindicated when LM flipped doc. The let down.


I can't imagine what you were thinking during that whole ordeal:

- Man i'm gaining steam, JB is so fucking scum.
- GOD DAMNIT i just outted the doctor
- OH SICK FUCKING 100% CONFIRMED MAFIA!
- (lonemeow flips) FUCKING KNEW IT YOU LITTLE PIECE OF SHIT
- (artanis) god fucking damnit



Like I said, I literally screamed at my monitor. Something along those lines actually. GF and cats got scared shitless.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 01:14 GMT
#73
On February 06 2014 10:08 Balla24 wrote:
EVERYONE SHOULD JOIN VOICE MAFIA FOR LULZ!

Especially you jonny i think you'd be funny here.



I rage enough in forum mafia.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 07:26 GMT
#80
I didn't like Koshi or LM lynches. I would have voted hopeless if you'd pushed that Balla.

Should have stuck with this one.

On February 06 2014 04:25 JonnyLaw wrote:
I'm in the same spot as yesterday regarding Jay.

There are two ways I see to look at hopeless.

1) Town. I was afk 24 hrs and did nothing and came back to find someone who's lynch bait so I don't get lynched.

2) Scum. I was afk 24 hrs and did nothing and came back to find someone who's lynch bait so I don't get lynched.

The first one is anti-town. The second one is anti-town. I'd lynch hopeless over cake any day.

JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 22:01 GMT
#101
That post is worse than Koshi's opening post. how bored were you waiting for this game to start?

Fuck man, I was happy last game thinking you were prob town. You're making me go back to my roots here.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 22:04 GMT
#106
On February 07 2014 07:03 suki wrote:
EBWOP: I actually prefer to lynch JonnyLaw (out of Balla's list of scum)



You can never go wrong lynching Balla. The odds our in our favor.

I told you that you hate everything I post.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 22:05 GMT
#107
*are in our favor.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 22:06 GMT
#109
Honestly though, I appreciate you starting the game with style rather than discussing scum koshi's bad plan.

We should have lynched him when he said "I didn't want to follow that plan anyway."
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 22:06 GMT
#111
On February 07 2014 07:05 suki wrote:
Ahaha it's not that I actually hate everything you post, I just enjoy hating everything you post n_n



Bring the hate. It will only make me stronger.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 22:08 GMT
#113
Have you guys played with aqua before?
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 22:12 GMT
#120
He posted a beastly 14 pages of filter before being shot n2 in back to basics. If he's town I expect a lot of help from him solving this game.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 22:16 GMT
#123
On February 07 2014 07:13 Balla24 wrote:
Well he's probably mafia. Are you bussing already?



Balla the only thing that would have made me happier than jayb being scum last game is if you had also been his mightaswellhavebeenmasoned scum buddies.

Then I could have gone 2/2 on lynches and wrapped everything up into a neat and tidy bundle with Koshi as last scum.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 22:21 GMT
#127
Sigh...Jayb man.

You called balla super townie for entering the thread with a vote last game. Are you sheeping your "town playstyles" again?

JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 22:25 GMT
#130
On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?

@suki, that implies that you think jaybrundage is town, even though I am clearly 2.5% less likely to be scum than he is.



I appreciate the effort you put into that post man. It's funny but you're trying to force it into being more distracting than Koshi's post last game.

What the fuck?
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 22:26 GMT
#132
On February 07 2014 07:24 Balla24 wrote:
Plus i am CONFIRMED TOWN! Can't you see this? It's science!



Oh, you're mad that you're scum again and hate the science you developed. I see.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 22:33 GMT
#140
On February 07 2014 07:29 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 07:26 JonnyLaw wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:24 Balla24 wrote:
Plus i am CONFIRMED TOWN! Can't you see this? It's science!



Oh, you're mad that you're scum again and hate the science you developed. I see.


In fact I am so confirmed town that I am willing to declare myself as

King Balla

Whenever you refer to me you must now refer to me as "my king" and must protect me at all costs from assassins.



I laughed.

For real though, Koshi if you're town are you going to try and make real cases and hunt scum this game? Because last game you made shit cases and said I'm town. If you make shit cases and say I'm town again there's only one logical conclusion...

I feel like we're in a strong position this game. We all got decent reads on everyone playing except aqua. Day1 is such a shit hole. Need small talk to get the game moving but I hate chitter chatter.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 22:38 GMT
#146
On February 07 2014 07:34 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 07:33 JonnyLaw wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:29 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:26 JonnyLaw wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:24 Balla24 wrote:
Plus i am CONFIRMED TOWN! Can't you see this? It's science!



Oh, you're mad that you're scum again and hate the science you developed. I see.


In fact I am so confirmed town that I am willing to declare myself as

King Balla

Whenever you refer to me you must now refer to me as "my king" and must protect me at all costs from assassins.



I laughed.

For real though, Koshi if you're town are you going to try and make real cases and hunt scum this game? Because last game you made shit cases and said I'm town. If you make shit cases and say I'm town again there's only one logical conclusion...

I feel like we're in a strong position this game. We all got decent reads on everyone playing except aqua. Day1 is such a shit hole. Need small talk to get the game moving but I hate chitter chatter.

Dude, you will feel how town koshi feels. You will feel it.

You will be like "wtf is up with this guy".

The answer is: Town Koshi



I hope so Koshi. It'd make my life so much easier. I'm mad at myself for not pushing to lynch you after you called both your case on me and your opening post bad. I have a vendetta this game. Jayb ruined my scum hunting last game. I'm getting it right this game.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 22:40 GMT
#152
On February 07 2014 07:36 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 07:28 suki wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?


Legitimate question.

Jay, since you're 0.29% more likely to be scum than me, and since you were the top 2 Day 1 lynch in the previous game, how do you plan to play differently in order to avoid being targeted for lynch this game?

It might be a rough game. I tryharded the shit out of last game. And jonny wanted to lynch me cause I was "acting" like town.
I guess the first thing would be too not give as much advice this game.

1. Because I said it last game.

2. Because now I can just policy lynch lurkers cause they have been warned :D

I want to just say scum hunt more. But its not easy too early day 1. Maybe more pressure less advice for the early day.



Overall you had a good game. You had one comment early that tripped my scum radar. I think along the lines of "in newer games people need motivation to post." Then you proceeded to try and take over the town. I felt like you were scum trying to take over the town. Bah, you should have been scum.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 22:41 GMT
#155
Votes are like assholes in this game. Give the man a minute. It's day1 lets sit around and chat a while.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 22:43 GMT
#158
On February 07 2014 07:40 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 07:40 JonnyLaw wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:36 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:28 suki wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?


Legitimate question.

Jay, since you're 0.29% more likely to be scum than me, and since you were the top 2 Day 1 lynch in the previous game, how do you plan to play differently in order to avoid being targeted for lynch this game?

It might be a rough game. I tryharded the shit out of last game. And jonny wanted to lynch me cause I was "acting" like town.
I guess the first thing would be too not give as much advice this game.

1. Because I said it last game.

2. Because now I can just policy lynch lurkers cause they have been warned :D

I want to just say scum hunt more. But its not easy too early day 1. Maybe more pressure less advice for the early day.



Overall you had a good game. You had one comment early that tripped my scum radar. I think along the lines of "in newer games people need motivation to post." Then you proceeded to try and take over the town. I felt like you were scum trying to take over the town. Bah, you should have been scum.

Nobody cares about past game Jonny.


What better time to sit around talking. It lets us get reads we can use later. Better last game or future games or past games than fucking policy talk.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 22:44 GMT
#160
On February 07 2014 07:42 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 07:41 JonnyLaw wrote:
Votes are like assholes in this game. Give the man a minute. It's day1 lets sit around and chat a while.

What topic?



I was talking about tunneling jayb. Apparently that's off topic.

How about aqua. Have you played with him before?

How do you feel about random votes being tossed around?
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 23:06 GMT
#183
I'm here Koshi. I'm trying to make sense of these interactions.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 23:07 GMT
#184
I asked questions what do you want to know?
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 23:08 GMT
#185
On February 07 2014 07:47 Koshi wrote:
Mine is very real. Super real.

you feel off.



I hate this fucking post by the way. What is this supposed to accomplish?
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 23:14 GMT
#190
On February 07 2014 08:08 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 08:02 Koshi wrote:
Balla, let's give jayb a break for a sec.

What do you think about Jonny? Why is he gone? He wanted to talk, but there is nothing from him atm.


He's also scum. Last game he called my early unexplained vote shit, this game he says:

Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 07:41 JonnyLaw wrote:
Votes are like assholes in this game. Give the man a minute. It's day1 lets sit around and chat a while.


He also completely dismissed my first post without even giving it a a real thought, similar to what jaybrundage did, and has been spewing irrelevant things like commentary about post-game which is completely off-topic unless he wants to make a point about this game with it. Also the aqua stuff is pretty irrelevant, and actually anti-town. What's the point of talking about Aqua's meta if he hasn't even posted anything yet? Sure I guess it's interesting to see if anybody has played with him, but you can 1. do that research yourself. 2. wait to see if anybody brings any meta arguments and information to the table themselves.

Knowing whether someone has played with someone or not doesn't do anything.



There's nothing to discuss in your first post. It's not good. Are you trying to manipulate what I said?

On February 07 2014 07:01 JonnyLaw wrote:
That post is worse than Koshi's opening post. how bored were you waiting for this game to start?

Fuck man, I was happy last game thinking you were prob town. You're making me go back to my roots here.


Huh? There's four of you tossing around votes.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 23:17 GMT
#192
On February 07 2014 08:12 Koshi wrote:
Jonny do you feel like JayB really thinks I am scum?


I could call you scum.

Pre-Game
On February 06 2014 09:03 Koshi wrote:
But I will post like I am a kid with a lollypop and the sun is shining.


How do you assume Balla's alignment?
On February 07 2014 07:26 Koshi wrote:
Koshi is indeed town so I am going to beleive Balla his theory.

Balla let's get a town circle going.



Here are more excuses from Koshi.
On February 07 2014 07:36 Koshi wrote:
Heads up. I always make shit cases.
I have made 2 good cases in the 16 games I played.

True story.



What happened to a kid with a lollipop?
On February 07 2014 07:46 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 07:44 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:26 Koshi wrote:
Koshi is indeed town so I am going to beleive Balla his theory.

Balla let's get a town circle going.

Koshi would be way more happy if he got a alignment pm that was town.

I don't see it.
##Unvote
##Vote Koshi

Poor jayB. Koshi doesn't need to be happy at the start. Scum Koshi would need to fake that. Town Koshi will shine through and will never get lynched.

Click on my profile. Look at all the towngames. Koshi hasn't been lynched since Titanic. Won't happen this game.


JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 23:22 GMT
#196
On February 07 2014 08:20 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 08:13 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 08:08 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 08:02 Koshi wrote:
Balla, let's give jayb a break for a sec.

What do you think about Jonny? Why is he gone? He wanted to talk, but there is nothing from him atm.


He's also scum. Last game he called my early unexplained vote shit, this game he says:

On February 07 2014 07:41 JonnyLaw wrote:
Votes are like assholes in this game. Give the man a minute. It's day1 lets sit around and chat a while.


He also completely dismissed my first post without even giving it a a real thought, similar to what jaybrundage did, and has been spewing irrelevant things like commentary about post-game which is completely off-topic unless he wants to make a point about this game with it. Also the aqua stuff is pretty irrelevant, and actually anti-town. What's the point of talking about Aqua's meta if he hasn't even posted anything yet? Sure I guess it's interesting to see if anybody has played with him, but you can 1. do that research yourself. 2. wait to see if anybody brings any meta arguments and information to the table themselves.

Knowing whether someone has played with someone or not doesn't do anything.

Pray tell what should people post about your first post.


Just compare your reaction to Suki's:

Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 07:02 suki wrote:
I actually prefer to lynch JonnyLaw.

Why the hell is a giant post that balla OBVIOUSLY wrote before the roles were revealed, make him scum?

##vote JonnyLaw


Here she puts actual thought into what I did, whereas Jonny immediately thinks oh because I posted that i'm scum.

Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 07:28 suki wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?


Legitimate question.

Jay, since you're 0.29% more likely to be scum than me, and since you were the top 2 Day 1 lynch in the previous game, how do you plan to play differently in order to avoid being targeted for lynch this game?


Then she jokes about it here, which goes along with the light-hearted tone about the entire thing.

Your response is more null though, because I can't tell if you actually thought about it or not (and then decided it was bad), whereas Jonny immediately jumps to "scum" because of it.



I don't care about that post. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. Your math means nothing. It's fucking random. Odds mean nothing over time. There is no reason to consider it at all beyond "oh hey that's cute." What do you want? Oh hey, vote aqua? I'm trying to get a real discussion started in this game.

The scum thing was lighthearted. I'm done talking about your opener.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 23:25 GMT
#199
There is nothing to think about in that post. At all. Ever. It's 100% worthless aside from humor.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 23:33 GMT
#205
On February 07 2014 07:58 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 07:36 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:28 suki wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?


Legitimate question.

Jay, since you're 0.29% more likely to be scum than me, and since you were the top 2 Day 1 lynch in the previous game, how do you plan to play differently in order to avoid being targeted for lynch this game?

It might be a rough game. I tryharded the shit out of last game. And jonny wanted to lynch me cause I was "acting" like town.
I guess the first thing would be too not give as much advice this game.

1. Because I said it last game.

2. Because now I can just policy lynch lurkers cause they have been warned :D

I want to just say scum hunt more. But its not easy too early day 1. Maybe more pressure less advice for the early day.


You're making so many excuses for no reason. Why would you tryharding last game have anything to do with this game or how tough it's going to be? In fact, what are you trying to say when you say you "tryharded the shit out of last game"? What, are you implying you're not going to tryhard the shit out of this game, why not?

Scumhunting is scumhunting. Sure there's not much to talk about on day1 but that's where you make stuff to talk about and then scumhunt from there. There has been no effort to do that. Instead, all you have done is called my first post "icky", which was 100% totally intended to do just that, get people to start talking and scumhunting from the get go which should be pretty obvious to everybody, but for some reason you decided it was icky and then make excuses for what I can only assume is going to be bad scumhunting on day 1.

Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 07:32 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?

@suki, that implies that you think jaybrundage is town, even though I am clearly 2.5% less likely to be scum than he is.

That first post. Ugh I'm still feeling icky from it.




Your first post was obviously pre-written. It's not "icky" but it's not alignment indicative. You'd post the same thing as scum or town.

The sections you highlighted in his posts make me feel wary. They're scummy sure. Does that make him scum?

On February 07 2014 08:01 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 07:51 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:47 Koshi wrote:
Mine is very real. Super real.

you feel off.

I feel off. What a non committal post. After you say your vote is real. You make a terrible comment like that.

I think what you mean to say. Is that you think I'm scum. BUT your scum so you know that not to be true and your waffling like crazy. Because even when you say the vote is real. Your very next line shows you have no conviction about it.

Koshi is scum. I caught one :D


In fact, this post is so very scummy. If you are town, your reaction to these "fake votes" would be completely different. You would be confused and curious as to what they find scummy about what you said, or you would just think that it's totally trolly and ignore it.

Here you find it is scummy? What cause he thinks you feel off? Your response should have been "what feels off about me then oh wise one koshi" and not "you're scum".


I actually agree with Jay here. I don't give a shit about votes an hour into the game.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 23:38 GMT
#211
On February 07 2014 08:36 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 08:34 jaybrundage wrote:
Yea I'm REALLLLLLY confident that both Balla and Koshi are scum. Bleh writing a bunch of stuff on balla would be alot of work tho. And we can sadly only lynch one today. Maybe a vig can shoot balla hmmmm?

Are you for real? Really?

This just can't end well. Either you are town and I will get a bunch of dumb post to read when I wake up. Or you are scum and you will be in a world of pain.



You're obsessed with filter size aren't you? What's breaking down Koshi? I'm seeing a trend.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 23:38 GMT
#212
Wow, I misquoted.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2014 23:54 GMT
#220
On February 07 2014 08:41 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 08:33 JonnyLaw wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:58 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:36 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:28 suki wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?


Legitimate question.

Jay, since you're 0.29% more likely to be scum than me, and since you were the top 2 Day 1 lynch in the previous game, how do you plan to play differently in order to avoid being targeted for lynch this game?

It might be a rough game. I tryharded the shit out of last game. And jonny wanted to lynch me cause I was "acting" like town.
I guess the first thing would be too not give as much advice this game.

1. Because I said it last game.

2. Because now I can just policy lynch lurkers cause they have been warned :D

I want to just say scum hunt more. But its not easy too early day 1. Maybe more pressure less advice for the early day.


You're making so many excuses for no reason. Why would you tryharding last game have anything to do with this game or how tough it's going to be? In fact, what are you trying to say when you say you "tryharded the shit out of last game"? What, are you implying you're not going to tryhard the shit out of this game, why not?

Scumhunting is scumhunting. Sure there's not much to talk about on day1 but that's where you make stuff to talk about and then scumhunt from there. There has been no effort to do that. Instead, all you have done is called my first post "icky", which was 100% totally intended to do just that, get people to start talking and scumhunting from the get go which should be pretty obvious to everybody, but for some reason you decided it was icky and then make excuses for what I can only assume is going to be bad scumhunting on day 1.

On February 07 2014 07:32 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?

@suki, that implies that you think jaybrundage is town, even though I am clearly 2.5% less likely to be scum than he is.

That first post. Ugh I'm still feeling icky from it.




Your first post was obviously pre-written. It's not "icky" but it's not alignment indicative. You'd post the same thing as scum or town.

The sections you highlighted in his posts make me feel wary. They're scummy sure. Does that make him scum?

On February 07 2014 08:01 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:51 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:47 Koshi wrote:
Mine is very real. Super real.

you feel off.

I feel off. What a non committal post. After you say your vote is real. You make a terrible comment like that.

I think what you mean to say. Is that you think I'm scum. BUT your scum so you know that not to be true and your waffling like crazy. Because even when you say the vote is real. Your very next line shows you have no conviction about it.

Koshi is scum. I caught one :D


In fact, this post is so very scummy. If you are town, your reaction to these "fake votes" would be completely different. You would be confused and curious as to what they find scummy about what you said, or you would just think that it's totally trolly and ignore it.

Here you find it is scummy? What cause he thinks you feel off? Your response should have been "what feels off about me then oh wise one koshi" and not "you're scum".


I actually agree with Jay here. I don't give a shit about votes an hour into the game.


1. That's interesting to me because that's literally what you always jump on as town is people making excuses for their play. But at least you are wary.
2. That's not the point. Think about your reaction if someone just random votes you without explaining anything.

You either think it's trolly or you think "wtf". If it's trolly you basically ignore it, which jb started to do. If you think wtf, you become curious and try to understand wtf they are thinking, and SPECIFICALLY if they have actually think they see something or not.

After he thinks their real, he basically goes "WTF" and goes HAM on koshi for being non-commital. NOWHERE does he show a curious, townie, scum-hunting mindset but instead just straight up attacks him. He doesn't ask what is that "feels off", he just says that saying that is scummy.

I would seriously expect him to think harder about what Koshi is doing.



That's the most important part of your post. Anyone who calls jay scum must be scum. Easy defense. Jay looks scummy. So does Koshi.

Honestly you've done nothing to show otherwise either.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 07 2014 00:00 GMT
#232
On February 07 2014 08:59 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 08:54 JonnyLaw wrote:
On February 07 2014 08:41 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 08:33 JonnyLaw wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:58 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:36 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:28 suki wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?


Legitimate question.

Jay, since you're 0.29% more likely to be scum than me, and since you were the top 2 Day 1 lynch in the previous game, how do you plan to play differently in order to avoid being targeted for lynch this game?

It might be a rough game. I tryharded the shit out of last game. And jonny wanted to lynch me cause I was "acting" like town.
I guess the first thing would be too not give as much advice this game.

1. Because I said it last game.

2. Because now I can just policy lynch lurkers cause they have been warned :D

I want to just say scum hunt more. But its not easy too early day 1. Maybe more pressure less advice for the early day.


You're making so many excuses for no reason. Why would you tryharding last game have anything to do with this game or how tough it's going to be? In fact, what are you trying to say when you say you "tryharded the shit out of last game"? What, are you implying you're not going to tryhard the shit out of this game, why not?

Scumhunting is scumhunting. Sure there's not much to talk about on day1 but that's where you make stuff to talk about and then scumhunt from there. There has been no effort to do that. Instead, all you have done is called my first post "icky", which was 100% totally intended to do just that, get people to start talking and scumhunting from the get go which should be pretty obvious to everybody, but for some reason you decided it was icky and then make excuses for what I can only assume is going to be bad scumhunting on day 1.

On February 07 2014 07:32 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?

@suki, that implies that you think jaybrundage is town, even though I am clearly 2.5% less likely to be scum than he is.

That first post. Ugh I'm still feeling icky from it.




Your first post was obviously pre-written. It's not "icky" but it's not alignment indicative. You'd post the same thing as scum or town.

The sections you highlighted in his posts make me feel wary. They're scummy sure. Does that make him scum?

On February 07 2014 08:01 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:51 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:47 Koshi wrote:
Mine is very real. Super real.

you feel off.

I feel off. What a non committal post. After you say your vote is real. You make a terrible comment like that.

I think what you mean to say. Is that you think I'm scum. BUT your scum so you know that not to be true and your waffling like crazy. Because even when you say the vote is real. Your very next line shows you have no conviction about it.

Koshi is scum. I caught one :D


In fact, this post is so very scummy. If you are town, your reaction to these "fake votes" would be completely different. You would be confused and curious as to what they find scummy about what you said, or you would just think that it's totally trolly and ignore it.

Here you find it is scummy? What cause he thinks you feel off? Your response should have been "what feels off about me then oh wise one koshi" and not "you're scum".


I actually agree with Jay here. I don't give a shit about votes an hour into the game.


1. That's interesting to me because that's literally what you always jump on as town is people making excuses for their play. But at least you are wary.
2. That's not the point. Think about your reaction if someone just random votes you without explaining anything.

You either think it's trolly or you think "wtf". If it's trolly you basically ignore it, which jb started to do. If you think wtf, you become curious and try to understand wtf they are thinking, and SPECIFICALLY if they have actually think they see something or not.

After he thinks their real, he basically goes "WTF" and goes HAM on koshi for being non-commital. NOWHERE does he show a curious, townie, scum-hunting mindset but instead just straight up attacks him. He doesn't ask what is that "feels off", he just says that saying that is scummy.

I would seriously expect him to think harder about what Koshi is doing.



That's the most important part of your post. Anyone who calls jay scum must be scum. Easy defense. Jay looks scummy. So does Koshi.

Honestly you've done nothing to show otherwise either.


I don't understand what you're saying, sorry. The bold says "anyone who calls jay scum must be scum?". I'm not seeing the flow here, could you re-state or something?


Jay instantly attacks his attacker.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 07 2014 00:02 GMT
#235
I'm going out to dinner with my gf.

Any questions before I leave?
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 07 2014 00:08 GMT
#241
On February 07 2014 09:03 Balla24 wrote:

Got it, so you changed your mind and agree with me? ^_^

Also, jay, I don't want to tunnel you any longer but please, if you are going to accuse me of not reading your posts then at least read mine fully. I get the impression that you didn't even read what I wrote about you at the start of this whole mess.




I agree that Jay's being way defensive. Koshi's still scummy. The rest of the game should be off work/class soon. I want to hear from them.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 07 2014 00:13 GMT
#245
Koshi went to sleep. Are you reading this thread Balla?
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 07 2014 00:14 GMT
#246
I'm out. I'll be back in a couple hours. Hopefully the lurkers have shown themselves.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 07 2014 07:05 GMT
#384
On February 07 2014 15:50 suki wrote:
@Jonny, your thoughts on Jay please. I don't like how you spent a lot of time criticizing Balla's responses to Jay, and yet didn't mention Jay's case at all aside from a few vague one liners.


Hi suki, just got home from dinner with my girlfriend.

What do you mean Jay's case? The case you have on him or the one he posted about Koshi? His "case" on koshi is basically the same thing I posted. Just posted later and with worse examples in my opinion.

From memory a few of Jay's posts made sense to me as town. I'm gonna go look at it again. If you're talking about his case on Koshi I don't have a lot to say. I hope I'm around during the day to talk to Koshi more.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 07 2014 07:09 GMT
#386
I have to say I've had too much to drink and my post is messy as hell. One second trying to multitask and write an opinion on Jay.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 07 2014 07:15 GMT
#387
Why do you even want me to look at that Suki? Balla says I think his king post was funny. Am I supposed to take that seriously? I refuse to do so.

I talk to Jay about the last game. Uhhh....I felt bad for tunneling a townie so hard? I want jay to play the game and you guys start out right where I fucking left off. If he's scum (which I get to in my next post) we can lynch him.

And Balla's mad that I don't think he's paying attention and I refuse to call him "king." Yeah...what is there to say about that "case" on me.

Finishing the jay post. be back with you in a second.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 07 2014 07:33 GMT
#390
On February 07 2014 16:22 Aquanim wrote:
...I'm not suki

LOL. Hi aqua. Sorry assumed the chain kept going from Suki. I'm getting very weary from the long night out.

On February 07 2014 07:36 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 07:28 suki wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?


Legitimate question.

Jay, since you're 0.29% more likely to be scum than me, and since you were the top 2 Day 1 lynch in the previous game, how do you plan to play differently in order to avoid being targeted for lynch this game?

It might be a rough game. I tryharded the shit out of last game. And jonny wanted to lynch me cause I was "acting" like town.
I guess the first thing would be too not give as much advice this game.

1. Because I said it last game.

2. Because now I can just policy lynch lurkers cause they have been warned :D

I want to just say scum hunt more. But its not easy too early day 1. Maybe more pressure less advice for the early day.


On February 07 2014 08:34 jaybrundage wrote:
Yea I'm REALLLLLLY confident that both Balla and Koshi are scum. Bleh writing a bunch of stuff on balla would be alot of work tho. And we can sadly only lynch one today. Maybe a vig can shoot balla hmmmm?


The second post is the scummiest thing Jay's said all day. Actually it's scummy as hell rereading it. Under what town mindset are you ready to lynch one person and vig another two hours into the game? I wanna go look at balla before I crash.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 07 2014 07:34 GMT
#391
On February 07 2014 16:31 Aquanim wrote:
@Jonny: So, if you think his case holds no merit, do you think Balla is mistaken or scum?



I dunno yet. I was thinking the same thing. Is he scum or just mistaken?
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 07 2014 07:37 GMT
#392
On February 07 2014 16:31 Aquanim wrote:
@Jonny: So, if you think his case holds no merit, do you think Balla is mistaken or scum?



Scum. Case incoming. His filter stinks.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 07 2014 08:39 GMT
#397
hi Koshi. I'll give you balla case soon hopefully. I was rereading it and my dog just shit diarrhea all over my carpet in my room. Pics if you want. I hate this game. So drink and tired and now dog shit everywhere. Anyway, i'll be with you soon. I have a few hours before I need to work.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 08 2014 08:27 GMT
#662
Hi guys. We had a new implementation explode as I was supposed to leave. Eight hours later I'm coming to make a case. Fielding questions. Otherwise reading filters.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 08 2014 08:46 GMT
#664
koshi is our scum #1 in this game.


Sheeping Balla off the start. I pointed out that Jay did this last game and it bought Jay a lot of town points in balla's mind.
On February 07 2014 07:26 Koshi wrote:
Koshi is indeed town so I am going to beleive Balla his theory.

Balla let's get a town circle going.


Excuses. Excuses. Fucking Excuses.
On February 07 2014 07:36 Koshi wrote:
Heads up. I always make shit cases.
I have made 2 good cases in the 16 games I played.

True story.



Why can no one call him scum and where is the posting like a madman?
On February 07 2014 07:33 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 07:01 JonnyLaw wrote:
That post is worse than Koshi's opening post. how bored were you waiting for this game to start?

Fuck man, I was happy last game thinking you were prob town. You're making me go back to my roots here.

Jonny. Come on. It was a joke post. No need to exaggerate.

Heads up for you: When I am town, I post like a fucking madman. You are allowed to stop me if it is too much. Because I think you are special. Instead you are never allowed to call me scum. Deal?



I hate this entire series of posts. Anyone who's not joking around is scum? Get the fuck outta here.
On February 07 2014 07:45 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 07:44 JonnyLaw wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:42 Koshi wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:41 JonnyLaw wrote:
Votes are like assholes in this game. Give the man a minute. It's day1 lets sit around and chat a while.

What topic?



I was talking about tunneling jayb. Apparently that's off topic.

How about aqua. Have you played with him before?

How do you feel about random votes being tossed around?

Probably but I don't remember aquanim atm. :/
Random votes are what they are. JayB has not commented on them at all. Even though he is joking around about last game, he cannot make a joking comment on the 2 votes that are on him. I find that interesting.

On February 07 2014 07:47 Koshi wrote:
Mine is very real. Super real.

you feel off.

On February 07 2014 07:52 Koshi wrote:
Dat awkward smiley.

Uhh where's the scum hunting?
On February 07 2014 08:24 Koshi wrote:
The kid with the lollipop is when I roll scum.

It goes like this:
I see scum PM, I am very angry --> I pretend to be really happy in the thread.

But this game it went like this:
I AM FUCKING TOWN HELL FUCKING YEAH --> I don't have to pretend shit and I simply scumhunt.



Currently I am looking at Jonny and JayB.
Why am I not looking at Balla atm? Because isn't it more likely Balla is scum and I am being blindfolded?
Good question but no!
Balla posts about current topics, his posts influence how I think and are well thought out and he posts carefree and townylike. I just like everything about him.

And I really dislike you 2 atm. JayB is shaking in his boots and Jonny you just left the thread as soon as JayB got attention.

##unvote
##vote: JonnyLaw


Let it be known.



And another post threatening the power of town koshi. Unleash it already.
On February 07 2014 08:37 Koshi wrote:
You do realize I will be having a 40 page filter if you continue to push this read? It won't be pretty.

Take a step back jay.

We need fresh eyes.


This reminds Koshi of his "off feelings' about town jayb last game? I don't understand.

On February 07 2014 17:43 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 17:39 JonnyLaw wrote:
hi Koshi. I'll give you balla case soon hopefully. I was rereading it and my dog just shit diarrhea all over my carpet in my room. Pics if you want. I hate this game. So drink and tired and now dog shit everywhere. Anyway, i'll be with you soon. I have a few hours before I need to work.

That part is "off".

That reminds me of people wanting to know about my off feeling from jayB.

From what I remember:
I was reading his post and I was thinking "well, this post feels somewhat constructed. But ok." and then Balla voted for the guy and I was like "yeah let's get this party starting."
But I think the main reason for typing that post was to bait a reaction. Which I got, and I think the reaction with the smiley in the end was the reason we are were we are atm on jayB. It gave me (/us) bad vibes.

I don't want to talk too much about jayB anymore though. I will read him when he comes back.



Seriously this is getting worse and worse for me.

I'll do the rest tomorrow.

##vote Koshi


I'm around for a few minutes to chat.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 08 2014 08:49 GMT
#665
Uhh I called you scum? that's about it. No but I'm still not convinced. I don't have any clear town votes yet.

koshi, slam and lm for scum. koshi for content and lm slam for lurking.

rest neutral. i'm bad at finding town. i can find scum though.

JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 08 2014 08:57 GMT
#667
LM's lurking. Nothing else. Fuck, Jayb's the same reason I almost got lynched in nmmi.

On January 22 2014 04:06 Balla24 wrote:
yeah yeah jonny we get it and its true i havent been the same Balla, that's gonna change

Why are you so worried this game though? Usually you are all "well Balla is generally active enough that I can read him later".

I'm fine with lynching zarepath. You guys have both done all the work, which makes you more town definitely, but I still need to see what Crossfire and Artanis are doing before I settle 100%

##unvote
##vote zarepath


I tunnel a townie to death. Balla was scum and I thought Jay was last game. I don't want people to quit the game. I'm weak I guess.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 08 2014 09:01 GMT
#669
On January 23 2014 05:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
This is not about VE, it's about you JL.
You have had Balla as top scumread all game but never tried to lynch him.


On January 23 2014 05:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 05:41 JonnyLaw wrote:
Activity is everything in how I read his play. Fuck, if he was active he'd make cases. If not, he's not making cases or doing anything. I don't get your point here. How many times did I say lynch Balla? You think I bussed him that hard since day 1? Even when kush could still be voted I wanted to vote balla.

I don't understand your obsession with a sentence.

So, calling him a scummy lurker for lack of activity.

You didn't bus him hard. You soft bussed him.
I already pointed out why his activity is closer to his scumgames than town games. Actually it pretty much matches his scumgames. So, why did you not really push your top scumread when your top townread told you his activity matches his scumgames?



On January 23 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 23:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i just looked at his past games and:
  • town games - 19 and 23 pages of filter, a lot of oneliners, questions many people about his concerns, is clearly trying to find out what people think about what he thinks is important
  • scum game - 7 pages of filter, more big irrelevant posts that are inclined to talk about what X thinks of Y and how it's right/wrong. no real pushing of his own ideas.


If i don't even think about the motivation behind Balla's posts in this game and just look at what he has said it looks exactly like he played mafia and nothing like his town play to me.

Here, this dude is your fucking top scumread and you have nothing to say about this post JL.

And i want to know why?



Then I pushed jayb into oblivion last game. What do you say?
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 08 2014 09:02 GMT
#670
On February 08 2014 17:59 Aquanim wrote:
Have you actually read LoneMeow's posts?



no, not really. I rushed to catch up.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 08 2014 09:02 GMT
#671
On February 08 2014 17:59 Aquanim wrote:
Have you actually read LoneMeow's posts?



I read the thread then reread the filters that stook out to me. It was suki, jayb and koshi.

JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 08 2014 09:08 GMT
#674
In the first two hours of the game? Yeah. Suki and Balla pushed way too hard.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 08 2014 09:09 GMT
#675
On February 08 2014 18:08 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 18:02 JonnyLaw wrote:
On February 08 2014 17:59 Aquanim wrote:
Have you actually read LoneMeow's posts?



I read the thread then reread the filters that stook out to me. It was suki, jayb and koshi.


So you're saying you've scumread LoneMeow without actually looking at his posts, just waving your hand and say he's "lurking"?

No, I read his posts and saw nothing of merit.

JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 08 2014 09:10 GMT
#676
Anyway, I'm going to get a beer and drink it. Then I'm going to sleep and I'll be around well before lynch time tomorrow.

JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 08 2014 09:14 GMT
#678
On February 08 2014 18:11 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 18:08 JonnyLaw wrote:
In the first two hours of the game? Yeah. Suki and Balla pushed way too hard.

Sure, maybe they did. Let me rephrase. I am asking you whether or not you think JayB is scum now.



no. i don't think jay's scum at this point. his gameplay changes from this game to the last one make sense to me. his read of balla's starting post makes sense to me. calling out scum that early in the game makes sense to me as town. he changed the things that i said make him scum.

koshi's play doesn't make sense to me.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 08 2014 09:19 GMT
#679
ebwop-

Calling balla scum that early. I hated that post and all of the defense set up with it.

JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 08 2014 09:22 GMT
#682
I'm going to sleep. I have 12.54 hrs to convince town to vote Koshi.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 08 2014 21:19 GMT
#820
I'm here now Koshi. This lynch is so bad. Understandable but bad nonetheless. I got fucked staring at a monitor for 15 hours yesterday at work. No chance to make up for Friday's performance. This lynch is too easy for scum.

Gonna look at Suki's newer points on Jay.

Koshi this entire, "I can't vote him because he blue claimed is bull shit." He didn't claim anything and his post left room open to say exactly that when someone counter claims. Apparently no one else thinks you're scum tho.

JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 08 2014 21:25 GMT
#828
On February 09 2014 04:00 suki wrote:
what if Jonny was like 'I keep screaming koshi is scum until I'm blue in the face but you guys still won't vote him'

Would that be a blue claim? Like.. come on. If he really was blue and he wanted to breadcrumb he would have picked a better way than say 'I'm a true-blue townie'. That's just weak.



This summed it up the best.

Good to note in Koshiworld all I have to do is soft claim a blue role, when there are two blue roles and cannot be counterclaimed, in order to not be lynched ever.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 08 2014 21:26 GMT
#830
On February 09 2014 06:25 Koshi wrote:
I just called Jonny bad. He chokes at that. ggwp.



You'd like to think so. I was reading Suki's points on Jay.

Poor Koshi so mad.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 08 2014 21:27 GMT
#832
On February 09 2014 06:26 Koshi wrote:
Talk more about Koshi pls Jonny.

I like being very confirmed town when you die.



I cant wait to see the rage when I flip Koshi. You're gonna be a sad man.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 17 2014 23:32 GMT
#1930
Coag almost carried that game on his back.

Sorry my game was so bad. No time and terrible play led to a terrible game from me. Thanks for hosting a really cool game Artanis.
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