[S] Shadowed Mini Mafia: The Reboot

Cop in II Titanic


This is pretty much his first post in the game. Notice he writes a short thing about policy and then starts scum hunting.

Most of his posts in this game are scum hunting, but I didn't find many difficult questions in this one.

Town in Newbie Mini Mafia LI



Starts the game off with a pointed question trying to find TheChyz's motives.



This is his third post in the game and he's pointing out contradictions.



Questioning TheDragoon who was the top lynch candidate of the day. sidesprang was wary that the lynch on theDragoon was going to smoothly and tried getting information from theDragoon before the lynch.

Miller in TL Mafia XX
He spends most of the game apologizing for his low post quantity.

scum in TL Mafia XVIII
Like sidesprang pointed out, this scum game is from 4 years ago, something that I didn't think about as I was just looking through past games and not noticing the date. Regardless, I'll include some posts here to show where my line of thought came from in my case that I wrote up.


policy talk to start the game



Two posts later, setup talk.

The next post, more setup talk.



No reason for his vote.

Basically this is his only scum hunting effort in the game.

Again, his filter was super short, but the thing that I noticed is the lack of scumhunting compared to his other town games.

But I missed something big in my meta analysis.. That is, sidesprang was scum in the original Shadowed game.

Scum in Shadowed Mafia



his first two posts in the game. Basically... He doesn't spend time on policy talk and he starts hunting right away.

Jonny starts the thread with a more light-hearted attitude than usual, maybe in line with Balla and my joking.

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Standard JL aggression.


JL hating on excuses. Koshi also brings up how he hates the 'kid with a lollipop' point multiple times. Yes it is a misinterpretation. No, I don't think he should be hanged for such a silly mistake.



Decent analysis. Sharing of reads.

After this he goes to dinner with his girlfriend.

Right now Balla has posted this against Jonny:


So at this point in the game, Jonny's being called out for:
1. Dismissing Balla's opening post. Jonny also hated on Koshi's opening post last game and wanted to stop discussing it asap.
2. Commentary about the previous game, which is off-topic.
3. asking about Aqua's meta. Balla calls it anti-town but I'd rate it more neutral.

Koshi also at this point called Jonny out for leaving right when JayB started getting attention.

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actually before Jonny's next post Balla posts a case on Jonny and says he's weary of Jonny:

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Balla your points are as follows:
1. Jonny is taking offense to your joke posts, although he calls your first serious post a joke and he also laughs at your later crowning of yourself as king. You don't really explain how this is scummy but I assume it's more like a point that he's inconsistent and not reading properly.
2. Jonny is not contributing anything pro-town and is just wasting time.
3. He finds Jay's excuse-making and self-doubt "weary" but doesn't think it makes him scum. Whereas, we know Jonny loves to pick on excuse-making. This is one of Balla's points that I really liked.
4. He's blatantly not reading the thread. This doesn't seem like a scummy point, just like something frustrating.

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Jonny comes back and he's drunk. He responds to the above case from Balla at Aqua's request (mistakingly thinking I requested it hence why he's talking to suki).



He ignores the points where Balla says Jonny was wasting time talking about fluff. He explains he felt bad in the previous game for tunneling Jay so hard. Basically he dismisses Balla's case which I think is reasonable.



He posts saying Jay is scummy. Asks a very potent question (bolded) which I actually really like.


He promises a case on Balla but due to IRL doesn't deliver and leaves everyone hanging.

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Aqua posts a case on Jonny:


The important point here is that he brings up the fact that Jonny hasn't asked any questions or put any serious pressure on anyone.

Aqua says Jonny didn't answer Balla's case (the two sections previous to this one), I think Balla's case wasn't really pointing out why Jonny was scummy and Jonny's 'defense' makes decent sense. I mean, what is someone supposed to do when you accuse him of fluff? defend himself? He went and posted a case and promised another one.





LoneMeow calls Jonny the scummiest of the bunch. The logic is kinda flawed. He was somewhat hostile in the beginning and even in his other games he posts mostly one liners. He hasn't volunteered his opinion on anyone really. This point is true. However, I feel like it's not because Jonny was here in thread not volunteering his opinion but that Jonny was away from the thread and that's why it didn't happen.

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Koshi once again points out Jonny leaving right when Jay was put under the spotlight:


Again, if Jonny really was away, it's just inconvenient timing. If Jonny was here then yes it's suspicious. However Jonny did leave the thread at that point and say he was going out so it's just whether or not you believe him.

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Balla puts another case forward on Jonny:



Basically, activity level sucks. Not really anything else to say. Comparing Jonny's inactivity to when Balla was scum and he wasn't able to re-establish himself in the thread. (Interesting point, why are you using this point for Jonny and not for Jay? Especially since Jay at the start said he was totes going to scum hunt hard) . Meta of how Jonny and Balla aren't working together even though they usually do despite their personalities clashing.

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At this point Jonny comes back:


Things exploded at work. He's back.



Bad case on Koshi which is kinda just a reiteration of his original case. He doesn't add anything new and doesn't analyze Koshi's recent activity.








He straight up says that he thinks LM is scum for lurking. He doesn't pretty it up or make excuses. Jonny again seems hesitant to go after Jay because he tunneled Jay in the previous game.



He admits he hasn't read the thread before stating his reads. He's very open about this. I honestly see this as a point in his favour. He has nothing to hide as town.



He leaves the thread after answering a number of Aqua's questions. Whether these questions were answered satisfactorily or not is a different question, but his attitude was open and frank.



He says he doesn't think Jay is scum and provides reasons. He says Koshi's play doesn't make sense.

I think he's forgotten that he had promised a write up on Balla. The scum explanation is he's trying to ignore it. The town explanation is he was drunk and doesn't remember.

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Aqua posts a case on Jonny



1. He's not interested in finding out people's alignments. True.
2) He only made a case on somebody else when forced to by the pressure from several votes, not before.
ehh.. this is debatable. I sensed no hesitation to provide reads.
3) Jonny's position on LoneMeow makes no sense.
Jonny's position is LM is scum for lurking and he didn't read LM's posts. This is careless but it's not contradictory, because LM doesn't have a very large filter.

4) There's also this:



The last point I've already addressed.

Um. Point 1 can be seen as scummy. The other points not so valid.

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Koshi's follow up:


I like this follow up.

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And now everyone is putting on their party hats and saying we caught scum.