EPT[S] Shadowed Mini Mafia: The Reboot - Page 82
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Hopeless1der
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
suki ( 4 ) : LoneMeow, jaybrundage, Hopeless1der, Oatsmaster, LoneMeow ( 1 ) : suki, Aquanim ( 1 ) : Coagulation jaybrundage ( 0 ) : 1 person who hasn't voted yet: Aquanim With 4 votes suki is set to be lynched. Deadline on Friday, Feb 14 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) if you happen to find any mistakes in the above, please inform us/me about it immediately, thanks. | ||
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
On February 14 2014 06:29 Hopeless1der wrote: aqua has a greencheck...can you at least address that situation? how about we don't lynch aqua, what do you expect to happen? its null unless theres a godfather flip regardless if claim is true or not right? whats there to address? | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On February 14 2014 10:09 Coagulation wrote: its null unless theres a godfather flip regardless if claim is true or not right? whats there to address? Godfather flip ends the game....what to address is how you consider the claim/ check since its potentially game ending. | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
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jaybrundage
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suki
Canada1159 Posts
The following people I think are town, and this is pretty much the order I have from most to least townie. Oats - For leading the lynch against sidesprang. For his pressure play. Jay - For claiming cop. I think he'll be shot N3. His Day 2 was decent. His response to my case today on who he chose for his cop checks was really townie too. Aqua - Townie play. Townie interaction with sidesprang. Can't see Aqua being scum. Hopeless - Big filter. Townie Day 3. If he starts playing a different tune once I'm dead I guess take a closer look at him. Coag - Counter lynch to sidesprang. Although he hasn't done anything for town. Meta-wise though he seems more likely to be town as he is playing the game now... LoneMeow I think is scummy. If LoneMeow isn't scum I really don't know cuz everyone else looks town to me. LoneMeow hasn't stuck his neck out, conveniently hasn't read anybody as town. Has thrown suspicion on everyone today except Oats. In day 1 and 2 he sort of lingered in the background and didn't have any effect on the lynches. When I die lynch LoneMeow 100%. After he's gone I guess it's between Coag and Hopeless? But yeah I dunno. Anyways I don't really have much else to say. If it isn't LoneMeow then I'm completely lost on who scum would be. Everyone else just looks town to me. Sorry I couldn't help town any more than this. | ||
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
On February 14 2014 12:01 suki wrote: LoneMeow I think is scummy. If LoneMeow isn't scum I really don't know cuz everyone else looks town to me. LoneMeow hasn't stuck his neck out, conveniently hasn't read anybody as town. Has thrown suspicion on everyone today except Oats. In day 1 and 2 he sort of lingered in the background and didn't have any effect on the lynches. Can you explain to me the distinction you draw between "throwing suspicion on everyone" and "considering all of the possibilities for the last scum"? | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
suki ( 5 ) : Aquanim ( 1 ) : Coagulation LoneMeow ( 1 ) : suki, Everyone has voted, noone to be modkilled as of now, good kids! With 5 votes suki is set to be lynched Deadline on Friday, Feb 14 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) if you happen to find any mistakes in the above, please inform us/me about it immediatly, thanks. | ||
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suki
Canada1159 Posts
On February 14 2014 12:14 Aquanim wrote: Can you explain to me the distinction you draw between "throwing suspicion on everyone" and "considering all of the possibilities for the last scum"? There's only one scum left. That means that no matter how many suspects you have, you're going to have to accept that aside from one person, everyone else is town. You can consider all the possibilities for the last scum but at some point you have to narrow it down, decide who looks town to you and who looks like they're scum. Pressuring people is fine. It's not like you're saying 'hey this person here is definitely the last scum so I don't have to pressure anyone else' . . . but the mindset is what's the difference between a town at this point in the game and a mafia. Town is trying to find the last scum. Mafia is trying to keep their options open so they can continue to push mislynches. | ||
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suki
Canada1159 Posts
Someone with no town reads like LoneMeow can just continue to push without technically being inconsistent with their previous play. Off the top of my head Oats has stated the Aqua and Coag look super town. Jay sees Aqua as town.. can't remember who else. I can't remember about you either Aqua and I don't feel like looking. Hopeless said everybody looks town except me. Out of everybody LoneMeow is alone in this regard and I think it's because he's scum and he wants to set himself up for the late game. | ||
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suki
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LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
On February 14 2014 12:01 suki wrote: After I flip, scum will have to mislynch twice in order to win the game. The following people I think are town, and this is pretty much the order I have from most to least townie. Oats - For leading the lynch against sidesprang. For his pressure play. Jay - For claiming cop. I think he'll be shot N3. His Day 2 was decent. His response to my case today on who he chose for his cop checks was really townie too. Aqua - Townie play. Townie interaction with sidesprang. Can't see Aqua being scum. Hopeless - Big filter. Townie Day 3. If he starts playing a different tune once I'm dead I guess take a closer look at him. Coag - Counter lynch to sidesprang. Although he hasn't done anything for town. Meta-wise though he seems more likely to be town as he is playing the game now... LoneMeow I think is scummy. If LoneMeow isn't scum I really don't know cuz everyone else looks town to me. LoneMeow hasn't stuck his neck out, conveniently hasn't read anybody as town. Has thrown suspicion on everyone today except Oats. In day 1 and 2 he sort of lingered in the background and didn't have any effect on the lynches. When I die lynch LoneMeow 100%. After he's gone I guess it's between Coag and Hopeless? But yeah I dunno. Anyways I don't really have much else to say. If it isn't LoneMeow then I'm completely lost on who scum would be. Everyone else just looks town to me. Sorry I couldn't help town any more than this. This is utterly unhelpful, if you want to call someone's behaviour town/scum you have to explain why it makes sense as that alignment. Take this for example: Hopeless - Big filter. Townie Day 3. If he starts playing a different tune once I'm dead I guess take a closer look at him. What in his D3 play makes him townie? Why is it more likely to come from town tham scum? (And I find it funny you say Hopeless1der has a big filter when he's tied for the second smallest filter in the game excluding the replacement.) | ||
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suki
Canada1159 Posts
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LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
On February 13 2014 15:24 LoneMeow wrote: Not the blue claim I was expecting, but your choices of target do have some merit so meh, dunno. Would you please try addressing some of the issues about your play I highlighted here? | ||
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LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
On February 14 2014 15:53 suki wrote: How about you answer my questions first and then I'll answer yours. I assume you mean these: On February 14 2014 02:31 suki wrote: LoneMeow who are your town reads right now? The only one I can call town with good confidence is Oatsmaster. I can't see his defense of Coagulation and push of sideprang being a bus, it was so strong. On February 14 2014 02:37 suki wrote: Ok so can you explain why you think Aqua's Day 2 is suspicious? From defending sidesprang into voting him after the hammer vote has dropped - how does that not look suspicious? Also note that Aquanim defended sidesprang when his vote was on someone he said he wasn't sure was scum - that's mighty suspicious, defending scum that is the counterwagon to someone you are not very certain is scum. | ||
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suki
Canada1159 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On February 13 2014 02:52 Hopeless1der wrote: Balla: Obvious town. Major push on Jonny Day1, constant pressure on the thread in general. I don’t see this as scum-scum interaction. It is too ballsy to draw attention to a teammate when you can alert them via qt to get back in the thread asap. Despite general apathy, balla continues to play right to the end of Day2 and actively seeks out more scum, ultimately securing a 2nd scum lynch with the help of Oats defending coag and generally beating the thread into submission. I also like his vote-count analysis posts, especially because he isn’t hiding behind them as activity, he’s using them to springboard his broader ideas about the game and then focus in based on his conclusions. Aquanim: Was accused of defending Jonny day1 by Balla. Technically true, but I see aqua go on to pressure Jonny and subsequently find him to be scummy. He was initially on jayb, but then again most of the thread was at first. I don’t find anything scummy in the way that Day1 played out for aqua. Once he’s committed to his vote on Jonny he spends most of his time pushing Jonny’s lynch either by defending alternative candidates or trying to draw people to looking at Jonny’s scummy ways. sidenote+ Show Spoiler + On February 08 2014 18:07 Aquanim wrote: Is what you're trying to say here that you don't want to push jayB because you were wrong about him in a previous game? I don't understand. Coag: Counter-wagon to sprang, was in all likelihood going to die and ended up being saved by Oats. Since they can’t be scum together, the simple answer is that coag was the scum mislynch for the day. LoneMeow This is more associative with flipped scum than with LM’s play, but Jonny had LoneMeow as scum for shifty reasons and LM was eager to point them out and pressure Jonny concerning why he was able to ignore LM’s filter yet call him scum for lurking. Also the VCA from the Day2 lynch is quite appealing for a town-LoneMeow. jaybrundage Day1 sucked, Day2 was fantastic. Actually pushed sprang most of the day as a policy lynch (and called it as much) while trying to get coag to play. He later admits that he never really wanted to lynch sprang, just scare him a bit and then ends up voting him (three times lol) at the end of the day. I don’t see scum admitting they weren’t going to follow through on a policy lynch and then going through with it anyways. Oatsmaster Besides my initial read of Oats, he hard defended coag and lead the charge on sidesprang. If you don’t already think Oats is town, I’m not going to convince you. Suki Day1 case is in my filter. Day2 she pushed coag all day and then meekly said Her filter is about 2/3 Day/Night 1 and 1/3 Day/Night 2 (I know Night2 isnt over yet, but the disparity is there) Based on general activity and the sudden and unexpected switch to sprang she's definitely my top choice for scum. Suki was once again seen defending the scum-lynch by saying they are contributing and deserve another day to prove themselves This post is very townie. Reasons why he thinks people are town. Narrows the field down to one last scum. I already explained why this is a townie mindset. On February 13 2014 08:29 Hopeless1der wrote: ##unvote ##vote: jaybrundage Hopeless voted me. Then I pointed out some glaring contradictions in Jay's play. Hopeless insta-switched to Jay. Of course, in the end Jay ended up with good reasons for what I thought were contradictions. However, it strikes me as very townie to go with the flow like this. If Jay didn't have a good defense for my case he would look awful right now even without any counterclaim. Scum would know that I'm wrong. It would be a lot better to stay quiet and watch from the sidelines rather than get right into it. Making a snap decision to insta-vote the way Hopeless did is something that is hard to do when you're trying to make sure you don't slip up. Not impossible, but difficult. Those two things in Day 3 seem very townie to me and unlikely for scum to do. | ||
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suki
Canada1159 Posts
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