Jonny starts the thread with a more light-hearted attitude than usual, maybe in line with Balla and my joking.
+ Show Spoiler +On February 07 2014 07:06 JonnyLaw wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 07:05 suki wrote:
Ahaha it's not that I actually hate everything you post, I just enjoy hating everything you post n_n
Bring the hate. It will only make me stronger. On February 07 2014 07:21 JonnyLaw wrote:
Sigh...Jayb man.
You called balla super townie for entering the thread with a vote last game. Are you sheeping your "town playstyles" again?
On February 07 2014 07:33 JonnyLaw wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 07:29 Balla24 wrote:On February 07 2014 07:26 JonnyLaw wrote:On February 07 2014 07:24 Balla24 wrote:
Plus i am CONFIRMED TOWN! Can't you see this? It's science!
Oh, you're mad that you're scum again and hate the science you developed. I see.
In fact I am so confirmed town that I am willing to declare myself as
King Balla
Whenever you refer to me you must now refer to me as "my king" and must protect me at all costs from assassins.
I laughed.For real though,
Koshi if you're town are you going to try and make real cases and hunt scum this game? Because last game you made shit cases and said I'm town. If you make shit cases and say I'm town again there's only one logical conclusion...
I feel like we're in a strong position this game. We all got decent reads on everyone playing except aqua. Day1 is such a shit hole. Need small talk to get the game moving but I hate chitter chatter.
These are all joke-y light hearted posts.
On February 07 2014 08:08 JonnyLaw wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 07:47 Koshi wrote:
Mine is very real. Super real.
you feel off.
I hate this fucking post by the way. What is this supposed to accomplish?
Standard JL aggression.
On February 07 2014 08:17 JonnyLaw wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 08:12 Koshi wrote:
Jonny do you feel like JayB really thinks I am scum?
I could call you scum.
Pre-Game
Show nested quote +On February 06 2014 09:03 Koshi wrote:
But I will post like I am a kid with a lollypop and the sun is shining.
How do you assume Balla's alignment?
Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 07:26 Koshi wrote:
Koshi is indeed town so I am going to beleive Balla his theory.
Balla let's get a town circle going.
Here are more excuses from Koshi.
Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 07:36 Koshi wrote:
Heads up. I always make shit cases.
I have made 2 good cases in the 16 games I played.
True story.
What happened to a kid with a lollipop?
Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 07:46 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2014 07:44 jaybrundage wrote:On February 07 2014 07:26 Koshi wrote:
Koshi is indeed town so I am going to beleive Balla his theory.
Balla let's get a town circle going.
Koshi would be way more happy if he got a alignment pm that was town.
I don't see it.
##Unvote
##Vote Koshi Poor jayB. Koshi doesn't need to be happy at the start. Scum Koshi would need to fake that. Town Koshi will shine through and will never get lynched.
Click on my profile. Look at all the towngames. Koshi hasn't been lynched since Titanic. Won't happen this game.
JL hating on excuses. Koshi also brings up how he hates the 'kid with a lollipop' point multiple times. Yes it is a misinterpretation. No, I don't think he should be hanged for such a silly mistake.
On February 07 2014 08:54 JonnyLaw wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 08:41 Balla24 wrote:On February 07 2014 08:33 JonnyLaw wrote:On February 07 2014 07:58 Balla24 wrote:On February 07 2014 07:36 jaybrundage wrote:On February 07 2014 07:28 suki wrote:On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?
Legitimate question.
Jay, since you're 0.29% more likely to be scum than me, and since you were the top 2 Day 1 lynch in the previous game, how do you plan to play differently in order to avoid being targeted for lynch this game?
It might be a rough game. I tryharded the shit out of last game. And jonny wanted to lynch me cause I was "acting" like town. I guess the first thing would be too not give as much advice this game.
1. Because I said it last game.
2. Because now I can just policy lynch lurkers cause they have been warned :D
I want to just say scum hunt more. But its not easy too early day 1. Maybe more pressure less advice for the early day.
You're making so many excuses for no reason. Why would you tryharding last game have anything to do with this game or how tough it's going to be? In fact, what are you trying to say when you say you "tryharded the shit out of last game"? What, are you implying you're not going to tryhard the shit out of this game, why not?
Scumhunting is scumhunting. Sure there's not much to talk about on day1 but that's where you make stuff to talk about and then scumhunt from there. There has been no effort to do that. Instead, all you have done is called my first post "icky", which was 100% totally intended to do just that, get people to start talking and scumhunting from the get go which should be pretty obvious to everybody, but for some reason you decided it was icky and then make excuses for what I can only assume is going to be bad scumhunting on day 1.
On February 07 2014 07:32 jaybrundage wrote:On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?
@suki, that implies that you think jaybrundage is town, even though I am clearly 2.5% less likely to be scum than he is.
That first post. Ugh I'm still feeling icky from it.
Your first post was obviously pre-written. It's not "icky" but it's not alignment indicative. You'd post the same thing as scum or town.
The sections you highlighted in his posts make me feel wary. They're scummy sure. Does that make him scum?
On February 07 2014 08:01 Balla24 wrote:On February 07 2014 07:51 jaybrundage wrote:On February 07 2014 07:47 Koshi wrote:
Mine is very real. Super real.
you feel off.
I feel off. What a non committal post. After you say your vote is real. You make a terrible comment like that.
I think what you mean to say. Is that you think I'm scum. BUT your scum so you know that not to be true and your waffling like crazy. Because even when you say the vote is real. Your very next line shows you have no conviction about it.
Koshi is scum. I caught one :D
In fact, this post is so very scummy. If you are town, your reaction to these "fake votes" would be completely different. You would be confused and curious as to what they find scummy about what you said, or you would just think that it's totally trolly and ignore it.
Here you find it is scummy? What cause he thinks you feel off? Your response should have been "what feels off about me then oh wise one koshi" and not "you're scum".
I actually agree with Jay here. I don't give a shit about votes an hour into the game.
1. That's interesting to me because that's literally what you always jump on as town is people making excuses for their play. But at least you are wary.
2. That's not the point. Think about your reaction if someone just random votes you without explaining anything.
You either think it's trolly or you think "wtf". If it's trolly you basically ignore it, which jb started to do. If you think wtf, you become curious and try to understand wtf they are thinking, and SPECIFICALLY if they have actually think they see something or not.
After he thinks their real, he basically goes "WTF" and goes HAM on koshi for being non-commital. NOWHERE does he show a curious, townie, scum-hunting mindset but instead just straight up attacks him. He doesn't ask what is that "feels off", he just says that saying that is scummy.I would seriously expect him to think harder about what Koshi is doing.
That's the most important part of your post. Anyone who calls jay scum must be scum. Easy defense. Jay looks scummy. So does Koshi.
Honestly you've done nothing to show otherwise either.
Decent analysis. Sharing of reads.
After this he goes to dinner with his girlfriend.
Right now Balla has posted this against Jonny:
He also completely dismissed my first post without even giving it a a real thought, similar to what jaybrundage did, and has been spewing irrelevant things like commentary about post-game which is completely off-topic unless he wants to make a point about this game with it. Also the aqua stuff is pretty irrelevant, and actually anti-town. What's the point of talking about Aqua's meta if he hasn't even posted anything yet? Sure I guess it's interesting to see if anybody has played with him, but you can 1. do that research yourself. 2. wait to see if anybody brings any meta arguments and information to the table themselves.
So at this point in the game, Jonny's being called out for:
1. Dismissing Balla's opening post. Jonny also hated on Koshi's opening post last game and wanted to stop discussing it asap.
2. Commentary about the previous game, which is off-topic.
3. asking about Aqua's meta. Balla calls it anti-town but I'd rate it more neutral.
Koshi also at this point called Jonny out for leaving right when JayB started getting attention.
- - - -
actually before Jonny's next post Balla posts a case on Jonny and says he's weary of Jonny:
+ Show Spoiler +On February 07 2014 13:39 Balla24 wrote:Alright, moving on. What do you guys think about
JonnyLaw?
I'm very weary on him.
Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 07:25 JonnyLaw wrote:On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?
@suki, that implies that you think jaybrundage is town, even though I am clearly 2.5% less likely to be scum than he is.
I appreciate the effort you put into that post man. It's funny but you're trying to force it into being more distracting than Koshi's post last game.
What the fuck?
The post he quotes here is completely irrelevant to my probability mafia post. This was literally the first time I was not being trolly in this game. I know the things I was referring to were trolly and joky, but I wanted to start the game at that point, and they were interesting enough initial thoughts to question their motives behind it. Why does he think i'm forcing anything and distracting anything. That was literally the start of the first discussion of the game yet he doesn't even really read it.
He even moves into quoting one of my more trolly posts afterwards ("I declare myself king") and calls it funny, even though it was way more distracting than anything else I did.
Moving on:
Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 07:40 JonnyLaw wrote:On February 07 2014 07:36 jaybrundage wrote:On February 07 2014 07:28 suki wrote:On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?
Legitimate question.
Jay, since you're 0.29% more likely to be scum than me, and since you were the top 2 Day 1 lynch in the previous game, how do you plan to play differently in order to avoid being targeted for lynch this game?
It might be a rough game. I tryharded the shit out of last game. And jonny wanted to lynch me cause I was "acting" like town.
I guess the first thing would be too not give as much advice this game.
1. Because I said it last game.
2. Because now I can just policy lynch lurkers cause they have been warned :D
I want to just say scum hunt more. But its not easy too early day 1. Maybe more pressure less advice for the early day.
Overall you had a good game. You had one comment early that tripped my scum radar. I think along the lines of "in newer games people need motivation to post." Then you proceeded to try and take over the town. I felt like you were scum trying to take over the town. Bah, you should have been scum.
There were plenty moments where jonny talks about something irrelevant and not helpful to the game with the facade that it is "getting the game started" and "not talking about policy". This post here could have literally happened in post-game and pre-game, I wouldn't be able to tell the difference. There is absolutely NO relevance to jay's alignment in this game. In fact, all it does is help jay if he's scum. There's more moments like this, specifically the Aqua stuff.
Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 08:33 JonnyLaw wrote:On February 07 2014 07:58 Balla24 wrote:On February 07 2014 07:36 jaybrundage wrote:On February 07 2014 07:28 suki wrote:On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?
Legitimate question.
Jay, since you're 0.29% more likely to be scum than me, and since you were the top 2 Day 1 lynch in the previous game, how do you plan to play differently in order to avoid being targeted for lynch this game?
It might be a rough game. I tryharded the shit out of last game. And jonny wanted to lynch me cause I was "acting" like town. I guess the first thing would be too not give as much advice this game.
1. Because I said it last game.
2. Because now I can just policy lynch lurkers cause they have been warned :D
I want to just say scum hunt more. But its not easy too early day 1. Maybe more pressure less advice for the early day.
You're making so many excuses for no reason. Why would you tryharding last game have anything to do with this game or how tough it's going to be? In fact, what are you trying to say when you say you "tryharded the shit out of last game"? What, are you implying you're not going to tryhard the shit out of this game, why not?
Scumhunting is scumhunting. Sure there's not much to talk about on day1 but that's where you make stuff to talk about and then scumhunt from there. There has been no effort to do that. Instead, all you have done is called my first post "icky", which was 100% totally intended to do just that, get people to start talking and scumhunting from the get go which should be pretty obvious to everybody, but for some reason you decided it was icky and then make excuses for what I can only assume is going to be bad scumhunting on day 1.
On February 07 2014 07:32 jaybrundage wrote:On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?
@suki, that implies that you think jaybrundage is town, even though I am clearly 2.5% less likely to be scum than he is.
That first post. Ugh I'm still feeling icky from it.
Your first post was obviously pre-written. It's not "icky" but it's not alignment indicative. You'd post the same thing as scum or town.
The sections you highlighted in his posts make me feel wary. They're scummy sure. Does that make him scum?
On February 07 2014 08:01 Balla24 wrote:On February 07 2014 07:51 jaybrundage wrote:On February 07 2014 07:47 Koshi wrote:
Mine is very real. Super real.
you feel off.
I feel off. What a non committal post. After you say your vote is real. You make a terrible comment like that.
I think what you mean to say. Is that you think I'm scum. BUT your scum so you know that not to be true and your waffling like crazy. Because even when you say the vote is real. Your very next line shows you have no conviction about it.
Koshi is scum. I caught one :D
In fact, this post is so very scummy. If you are town, your reaction to these "fake votes" would be completely different. You would be confused and curious as to what they find scummy about what you said, or you would just think that it's totally trolly and ignore it.
Here you find it is scummy? What cause he thinks you feel off? Your response should have been "what feels off about me then oh wise one koshi" and not "you're scum".
I actually agree with Jay here. I don't give a shit about votes an hour into the game.
Here he says that he finds Jay's excuse-making and self-doubt "weary" but doesn't think it makes him scum (or at least that's what I gather from him asking "does that make him scum?" after literally saying "it's scummy sure", which is really weird in itself). This is in direct contrast to what I know of town jonny. The guy LOVES to pick at this stuff.
+ Show Spoiler [Quotes from jonny town games] +On January 20 2014 11:40 JonnyLaw wrote:
Ve's full of shit.
He was this active last game. Making excuses for his posting now.
##vote visceral eyes
On January 06 2014 15:21 JonnyLaw wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2014 15:13 theDragoon wrote:
@Balla24
About the random accusation thing, a bunch of people started ##voting random people. It's my first time playing this so I'm assuming doing that in the thread that early in the game just seems really random to me when there isn't much information to go on. I assume that by ##voting that they are serious with those accusations, so excuse me if doing that randomly in the thread is something that's very common and isn't meant to be taken 100% serious.
Also, on Day_Walker he seems to have good intentions.Calling out TheChyz as the only possible scum on the list seems like a bandwagon hop to me but TheChyz has been suspicious so it's something I agree with. His read on me I find is a bit unnecessary and does not really prove that I am a townie. I'm sure everyone playing this game is not afraid to disagree and standing up for yourself is something everyone does. He might just be including me on the list because I've posted a bit but his reasoning behind me as a townie really has no foundation.
You're not saying anything with authority. You're hesitant and making excuses throughout that post. What are your opinions so far?
I don't care how other people feel about you or if it's your first game. That doesn't matter.
On January 06 2014 15:30 JonnyLaw wrote:I'll be on tomorrow at a more reasonable time.
At this point we have three players who've posted nothing. Fine, we have 30+ hours till day ends.
I hate this post and generally everything in Asuna's filter.
Show nested quote +On January 06 2014 14:16 Asuna wrote:On January 06 2014 08:38 Balla24 wrote:
Thread is dying fast... need backup ASAP.
I also am not too fond of Asuna's entry, but there's nothing really scummy about it. I just feel you have opportunities to enlighten me about yourself and your opinions but you are hiding behind one liners for some reason.
I'm just concise with my answers. I was asked pretty direct and narrowish questions so I gave pretty direct and narrowish answers. Also keeping track of everything in forum mafia is surprisingly different, so hopefully I didn't miss anything I'm supposed to be replying to from the last couple of pages.
Basically I've played a bit of mafia, am probably terrible at reading people, but TheChyz does seem a bit fishy for the reasons Day_Walker said. Might be too early to tell though. Excuses, bandwagoning and self doubt in one line.
I'm down to lynch
Asuna or OWB at this point.
Dragoon and Chyz read more as if they're trying but misguided.
On December 03 2013 07:24 JonnyLaw wrote:Rean - Votes yorick, claims vt and roleplays liftlift. Could be scum lurking.
Austin talks about champ abilities and not wanting town to role claim. I'm not certain role claiming is the best policy either. Maybe I'm missing something but these two are lurking harder than gtrs.
Mocsta is making a lot of excuses. Busy, in mylo etc... I generally agree with Roffles and Mocsta about gtrs.
+ Show Spoiler +On December 02 2013 15:08 Roffles wrote:
I think gtrsrs just doesn't give a fuck anymore because he didn't get his champ of choice and is stuck as a vanilla townie.
To me it all makes sense cause I know he probably just picked a champ he likes playing in the actual game (Khazix) and seemed cool in terms of skills here (he announced he was doing this too), but wasn't able to grab him and now just starts screwing around cause he's got nothing better to do.
MZ wants gtrs lynched and then spends the rest of his posts defending himself. If this is a popular sentiment and he was a proponent of it early why is he getting so much flak? Are mocsta and MZ arguing for some personal reasons?
Why did you want me to read these filters. The first two say nothing and the second two are just arguing. Rayn thinks MZ's contradicting himself but the first couple days I thought Rayn posted okay for the most part. I'm more confused about them at this point than anything.
tldr Rean and Austin are useless right now because they're doing nothing. Mocsta's making excuses without them being asked. Could be scummy. MZ's spending all his time on defense. This is the opposite of how soniv approached aggression directed his way. That's why I liked soniv for town earlier.
Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 09:13 JonnyLaw wrote:
Koshi went to sleep. Are you reading this thread Balla?
Then this. This is just blatantly not reading the thread. I was asked by jaybrundage to make a "town case" on koshi, so I did so. I even quoted what I was responding to. Yet he tells me
I'M not reading the thread. This ticks me off ^_^.
Balla your points are as follows:
1. Jonny is taking offense to your joke posts, although he calls your first serious post a joke and he also laughs at your later crowning of yourself as king. You don't really explain how this is scummy but I assume it's more like a point that he's inconsistent and not reading properly.
2. Jonny is not contributing anything pro-town and is just wasting time.
3. He finds Jay's excuse-making and self-doubt "weary" but doesn't think it makes him scum. Whereas, we know Jonny loves to pick on excuse-making. This is one of Balla's points that I really liked.
4. He's blatantly not reading the thread. This doesn't seem like a scummy point, just like something frustrating.
- - - -
Jonny comes back and he's drunk. He responds to the above case from Balla at Aqua's request (mistakingly thinking I requested it hence why he's talking to suki).
On February 07 2014 16:15 JonnyLaw wrote:
Why do you even want me to look at that Suki? Balla says I think his king post was funny. Am I supposed to take that seriously? I refuse to do so.
I talk to Jay about the last game. Uhhh....I felt bad for tunneling a townie so hard? I want jay to play the game and you guys start out right where I fucking left off. If he's scum (which I get to in my next post) we can lynch him.
And Balla's mad that I don't think he's paying attention and I refuse to call him "king." Yeah...what is there to say about that "case" on me.
Finishing the jay post. be back with you in a second.
He ignores the points where Balla says Jonny was wasting time talking about fluff. He explains he felt bad in the previous game for tunneling Jay so hard. Basically he dismisses Balla's case which I think is reasonable.
On February 07 2014 16:33 JonnyLaw wrote:LOL. Hi aqua. Sorry assumed the chain kept going from Suki. I'm getting very
weary from the long night out.
Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 07:36 jaybrundage wrote:On February 07 2014 07:28 suki wrote:On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?
Legitimate question.
Jay, since you're 0.29% more likely to be scum than me, and since you were the top 2 Day 1 lynch in the previous game, how do you plan to play differently in order to avoid being targeted for lynch this game?
It might be a rough game. I tryharded the shit out of last game. And jonny wanted to lynch me cause I was "acting" like town.
I guess the first thing would be too not give as much advice this game.
1. Because I said it last game.
2. Because now I can just policy lynch lurkers cause they have been warned :D
I want to just say scum hunt more. But its not easy too early day 1. Maybe more pressure less advice for the early day.
Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 08:34 jaybrundage wrote:
Yea I'm REALLLLLLY confident that both Balla and Koshi are scum. Bleh writing a bunch of stuff on balla would be alot of work tho. And we can sadly only lynch one today. Maybe a vig can shoot balla hmmmm?
The second post is the scummiest thing Jay's said all day. Actually it's scummy as hell rereading it.
Under what town mindset are you ready to lynch one person and vig another two hours into the game? I wanna go look at balla before I crash.
He posts saying Jay is scummy. Asks a very potent question (bolded) which I actually really like.
On February 07 2014 17:39 JonnyLaw wrote:
hi Koshi. I'll give you balla case soon hopefully. I was rereading it and my dog just shit diarrhea all over my carpet in my room. Pics if you want. I hate this game. So drink and tired and now dog shit everywhere. Anyway, i'll be with you soon. I have a few hours before I need to work.
He promises a case on Balla but due to IRL doesn't deliver and leaves everyone hanging.
- - - -
Aqua posts a case on Jonny:
On February 07 2014 23:36 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 23:21 suki wrote:
@Aquanim
Who do you find scummy right now?
Jonny tops the list at the moment.
I feel like this response by Jonny:
Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 16:15 JonnyLaw wrote:
Why do you even want me to look at that Suki? Balla says I think his king post was funny. Am I supposed to take that seriously? I refuse to do so.
I talk to Jay about the last game. Uhhh....I felt bad for tunneling a townie so hard? I want jay to play the game and you guys start out right where I fucking left off. If he's scum (which I get to in my next post) we can lynch him.
And Balla's mad that I don't think he's paying attention and I refuse to call him "king." Yeah...what is there to say about that "case" on me.
Finishing the jay post. be back with you in a second.
misinterpreted some of Balla's points and completely ignored the strongest one.
I also don't think Jonny's putting a significant amount of effort into drawing information out of the thread. I can't see any questions he's asked anyone, or any serious pressure.
may as well do this now instead of waiting till tomorrow
##Vote: JonnyLawI really want to see this case on Balla he claims to have.
idk what to make of jayB now, gonna need to see more from him to make any solid read. Similar for sidesprang.
The important point here is that he brings up the fact that Jonny hasn't asked any questions or put any serious pressure on anyone.Aqua says Jonny didn't answer Balla's case (the two sections previous to this one), I think Balla's case wasn't really pointing out why Jonny was scummy and Jonny's 'defense' makes decent sense. I mean, what is someone supposed to do when you accuse him of fluff? defend himself? He went and posted a case and promised another one.
On February 08 2014 03:30 LoneMeow wrote:
Hello. Had major emergency at work today so I have only done a quick read of the thread so far.
So far I'd call JonnyLaw the scummiest of the bunch. Just compare his posting to the previous game and his newbies.
One liners, off topic, no hostility towards who he thinks is scum.
Proper read commencing now, if there's anything you want me to comment on or pay extra attention to let me know.
On February 08 2014 05:19 LoneMeow wrote:
Okay, so:
JonnyLaw
Not playing to his usual aggressive, abrasive town meta (and he was called very town for it in the previous game, so there's no reason to change). Posting a lot of one liners and not volunteering his opinion.
Verdict: scummy
LoneMeow calls Jonny the scummiest of the bunch. The logic is kinda flawed. He was somewhat hostile in the beginning and even in his other games he posts mostly one liners. He hasn't volunteered his opinion on anyone really. This point is true. However, I feel like it's not because Jonny was here in thread not volunteering his opinion but that Jonny was away from the thread and that's why it didn't happen.
- - - -
Koshi once again points out Jonny leaving right when Jay was put under the spotlight:
On February 08 2014 05:31 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 05:24 LoneMeow wrote:On February 08 2014 05:21 Koshi wrote:
I like you Stray Kitten. I like you.
I don't see jayB being scum without Jonny being scum tbh. The other way around is possible.
Can we see a vote already?
Why do you think jaybrundage can't be scum if JonnyLaw is town? Connection?
The way you catched me previous game. I disappeared when it was lynch and wasn't discussing anything. The same happened with Jonny early game. Imagine if Jonny is town and jayB is scum, do you think Jonny would suddenly disappear at the same time hell breaks lose and not offer his opinion?
Then when I call him out on him he says that he is there and trying to make sense of the clusterfuck. Which is extremely scummy, and then the next thing he posts is a misinterpretation about something that hapenned PRE-GAME. (the lollypop business).
That's so strange coming from a guy who is pretty straightforward and dares to gives his opinion. When they are both scum it could have been because Jonny was seeing the clusterfuck that JayB was pulling himself into and just didn't know what to do. But I can see scum Jonny seeing townies fight and maybe be startled a bit on what to say, which side to pick. But town Jonny not knowing what to say when scum jayB is parading in the thread. Mehhhh.
Again, if Jonny really was away, it's just inconvenient timing. If Jonny was here then yes it's suspicious. However Jonny did leave the thread at that point and say he was going out so it's just whether or not you believe him.
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Balla puts another case forward on Jonny:
On February 08 2014 14:37 Balla24 wrote:...
Moving on,
Jonnylaw. I feel bad here because of his drunk posting last night and how I said I wanted to ignore it while waiting for Jonny to come back and tell me if they were serious or not. But it's been a while now... his activity level is making me very
wary(did I use the right word?) on top of all the other stuff I've already posted about.
So actually, mid-writing this I decide I don't really have anything more to say about Jonny. I'd appreciate if he would try again to refute the points I brought up against him last night, because all drunk jonny did was mis-interpret what I was saying and ignore other stuff then call me scum for my filter which has still not been followed up on. Actually he also did this while he was sober too:
Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 08:23 Balla24 wrote:On February 07 2014 08:14 JonnyLaw wrote:On February 07 2014 08:08 Balla24 wrote:On February 07 2014 08:02 Koshi wrote:
Balla, let's give jayb a break for a sec.
What do you think about Jonny? Why is he gone? He wanted to talk, but there is nothing from him atm.
He's also scum. Last game he called my early unexplained vote shit, this game he says:
On February 07 2014 07:41 JonnyLaw wrote:
Votes are like assholes in this game. Give the man a minute. It's day1 lets sit around and chat a while.
He also completely dismissed my first post without even giving it a a real thought, similar to what jaybrundage did, and has been spewing irrelevant things like commentary about post-game which is completely off-topic unless he wants to make a point about this game with it. Also the aqua stuff is pretty irrelevant, and actually anti-town. What's the point of talking about Aqua's meta if he hasn't even posted anything yet? Sure I guess it's interesting to see if anybody has played with him, but you can 1. do that research yourself. 2. wait to see if anybody brings any meta arguments and information to the table themselves.
Knowing whether someone has played with someone or not doesn't do anything.
There's nothing to discuss in your first post. It's not good. Are you trying to manipulate what I said?
On February 07 2014 07:01 JonnyLaw wrote:
That post is worse than Koshi's opening post. how bored were you waiting for this game to start?
Fuck man, I was happy last game thinking you were prob town. You're making me go back to my roots here.
Huh? There's four of you tossing around votes.
This is not what I said. I didn't say there was something to discuss, I said you didn't give it a real thought.
It's actually giving me flashbacks to Normal Mini Mafia 1 vibes where I was scum and I was called scum early by multiple people because of my activity, and unfortunately I wasn't able to re-establish myself in the thread like I would have liked. I'm not sure if that's what's happening here obviously until Jonny gives me some sense that this is not what's happening. Another thing that makes me feel worse about him is that when we are both town, we tend to work very well together, regardless of how clashy our personalities are. We're not working well together. I don't know who he thinks is scum, all I know is he read my filter and thought it smelled bad. Maybe that will change.
Finally....
##vote Jonnylaw Basically, activity level sucks. Not really anything else to say. Comparing Jonny's inactivity to when Balla was scum and he wasn't able to re-establish himself in the thread. (Interesting point, why are you using this point for Jonny and not for Jay? Especially since Jay at the start said he was totes going to scum hunt hard) . Meta of how Jonny and Balla aren't working together even though they usually do despite their personalities clashing.
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At this point Jonny comes back:
On February 08 2014 17:27 JonnyLaw wrote:
Hi guys. We had a new implementation explode as I was supposed to leave. Eight hours later I'm coming to make a case. Fielding questions. Otherwise reading filters.
Things exploded at work. He's back.
On February 08 2014 17:46 JonnyLaw wrote:koshi is our scum #1 in this game.
Sheeping Balla off the start. I pointed out that Jay did this last game and it bought Jay a lot of town points in balla's mind.
Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 07:26 Koshi wrote:
Koshi is indeed town so I am going to beleive Balla his theory.
Balla let's get a town circle going.
Excuses. Excuses. Fucking Excuses.
Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 07:36 Koshi wrote:
Heads up. I always make shit cases.
I have made 2 good cases in the 16 games I played.
True story.
Why can no one call him scum and where is the posting like a madman?
Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 07:33 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2014 07:01 JonnyLaw wrote:
That post is worse than Koshi's opening post. how bored were you waiting for this game to start?
Fuck man, I was happy last game thinking you were prob town. You're making me go back to my roots here.
Jonny. Come on. It was a joke post. No need to exaggerate.
Heads up for you: When I am town, I post like a fucking madman. You are allowed to stop me if it is too much. Because I think you are special. Instead you are never allowed to call me scum. Deal?
I hate this entire series of posts. Anyone who's not joking around is scum? Get the fuck outta here.
Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 07:45 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2014 07:44 JonnyLaw wrote:On February 07 2014 07:42 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2014 07:41 JonnyLaw wrote:
Votes are like assholes in this game. Give the man a minute. It's day1 lets sit around and chat a while.
What topic?
I was talking about tunneling jayb. Apparently that's off topic.
How about aqua. Have you played with him before?
How do you feel about random votes being tossed around?
Probably but I don't remember aquanim atm. :/
Random votes are what they are. JayB has not commented on them at all. Even though he is joking around about last game, he cannot make a joking comment on the 2 votes that are on him. I find that interesting.
Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 07:47 Koshi wrote:
Mine is very real. Super real.
you feel off.
Uhh where's the scum hunting?
Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 08:24 Koshi wrote:
The kid with the lollipop is when I roll scum.
It goes like this:
I see scum PM, I am very angry --> I pretend to be really happy in the thread.
But this game it went like this:
I AM FUCKING TOWN HELL FUCKING YEAH --> I don't have to pretend shit and I simply scumhunt.
Currently I am looking at Jonny and JayB.
Why am I not looking at Balla atm? Because isn't it more likely Balla is scum and I am being blindfolded?
Good question but no!
Balla posts about current topics, his posts influence how I think and are well thought out and he posts carefree and townylike. I just like everything about him.
And I really dislike you 2 atm. JayB is shaking in his boots and Jonny you just left the thread as soon as JayB got attention.
##unvote
##vote: JonnyLaw
Let it be known.
And another post threatening the power of town koshi. Unleash it already.
Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 08:37 Koshi wrote:
You do realize I will be having a 40 page filter if you continue to push this read? It won't be pretty.
Take a step back jay.
We need fresh eyes.
This reminds Koshi of his "off feelings' about town jayb last game? I don't understand.
Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 17:43 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2014 17:39 JonnyLaw wrote:
hi Koshi. I'll give you balla case soon hopefully. I was rereading it and my dog just shit diarrhea all over my carpet in my room. Pics if you want. I hate this game. So drink and tired and now dog shit everywhere. Anyway, i'll be with you soon. I have a few hours before I need to work.
That part is "off".
That reminds me of people wanting to know about my off feeling from jayB.
From what I remember:
I was reading his post and I was thinking "well, this post feels somewhat constructed. But ok." and then Balla voted for the guy and I was like "yeah let's get this party starting."
But I think the main reason for typing that post was to bait a reaction. Which I got, and I think the reaction with the smiley in the end was the reason we are were we are atm on jayB. It gave me (/us) bad vibes.
I don't want to talk too much about jayB anymore though. I will read him when he comes back.
Seriously this is getting worse and worse for me.
I'll do the rest tomorrow.
##vote KoshiI'm around for a few minutes to chat.
Bad case on Koshi which is kinda just a reiteration of his original case. He doesn't add anything new and doesn't analyze Koshi's recent activity.
On February 08 2014 17:49 JonnyLaw wrote:
Uhh I called you scum? that's about it. No but I'm still not convinced. I don't have any clear town votes yet.
koshi, slam and lm for scum. koshi for content and lm slam for lurking.
rest neutral. i'm bad at finding town. i can find scum though.
On February 08 2014 17:52 Aquanim wrote:
@Jonny:
Can you explain to me why you think LoneMeow is scum over jayB and sidesprang?
On February 08 2014 17:57 JonnyLaw wrote:LM's lurking. Nothing else. Fuck, Jayb's the same reason I almost got lynched in nmmi.
Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 04:06 Balla24 wrote:
yeah yeah jonny we get it and its true i havent been the same Balla, that's gonna change
Why are you so worried this game though? Usually you are all "well Balla is generally active enough that I can read him later".
I'm fine with lynching zarepath. You guys have both done all the work, which makes you more town definitely, but I still need to see what Crossfire and Artanis are doing before I settle 100%
##unvote
##vote zarepath
I tunnel a townie to death. Balla was scum and I thought Jay was last game. I don't want people to quit the game. I'm weak I guess.
He straight up says that he thinks LM is scum for lurking. He doesn't pretty it up or make excuses. Jonny again seems hesitant to go after Jay because he tunneled Jay in the previous game.
On February 08 2014 18:02 JonnyLaw wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 17:59 Aquanim wrote:
Have you actually read LoneMeow's posts?
I read the thread then reread the filters that stook out to me. It was suki, jayb and koshi.
He admits he hasn't read the thread before stating his reads. He's very open about this. I honestly see this as a point in his favour. He has nothing to hide as town.
On February 08 2014 18:10 JonnyLaw wrote:
Anyway, I'm going to get a beer and drink it. Then I'm going to sleep and I'll be around well before lynch time tomorrow.
He leaves the thread after answering a number of Aqua's questions. Whether these questions were answered satisfactorily or not is a different question, but his attitude was open and frank.
On February 08 2014 18:14 JonnyLaw wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 18:11 Aquanim wrote:On February 08 2014 18:08 JonnyLaw wrote:
In the first two hours of the game? Yeah. Suki and Balla pushed way too hard.
Sure, maybe they did. Let me rephrase. I am asking you
whether or not you think JayB is scum now.
no. i don't think jay's scum at this point. his gameplay changes from this game to the last one make sense to me. his read of balla's starting post makes sense to me. calling out scum that early in the game makes sense to me as town. he changed the things that i said make him scum.
koshi's play doesn't make sense to me.
He says he doesn't think Jay is scum and provides reasons. He says Koshi's play doesn't make sense.
I think he's forgotten that he had promised a write up on Balla. The scum explanation is he's trying to ignore it. The town explanation is he was drunk and doesn't remember.
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Aqua posts a case on Jonny
On February 08 2014 21:54 Aquanim wrote:Why JonnyLaw is scum, and the best lynch today
1) He is not interested in talking with other people to find their alignments.
Jonny did ask a few questions but they seemed pretty pointless to me:
+ Show Spoiler +On February 07 2014 07:21 JonnyLaw wrote:
Sigh...Jayb man.
You called balla super townie for entering the thread with a vote last game. Are you sheeping your "town playstyles" again?
On February 07 2014 07:25 JonnyLaw wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?
@suki, that implies that you think jaybrundage is town, even though I am clearly 2.5% less likely to be scum than he is.
I appreciate the effort you put into that post man. It's funny but you're trying to force it into being more distracting than Koshi's post last game.
What the fuck?
On February 07 2014 07:44 JonnyLaw wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 07:42 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2014 07:41 JonnyLaw wrote:
Votes are like assholes in this game. Give the man a minute. It's day1 lets sit around and chat a while.
What topic?
I was talking about tunneling jayb. Apparently that's off topic.
How about aqua. Have you played with him before?
How do you feel about random votes being tossed around?
et cetera. Importantly I don't think Jonny has asked
anybody for their opinions/cases/whatever on anybody else, or to clarify a point he didn't understand.
He has asked pointless questions and mostly made pointless observations.
To take an example of something which would not be a pointless question, look at his town posts from the original game:
+ Show Spoiler +On February 04 2014 11:54 JonnyLaw wrote:
Koshi's euro cakeman he's asleep i'd guess.
What did you specifically dislike about Jayb's post Suki? I see reason to dislike it but I'm interested in your opinion.
On February 04 2014 12:14 JonnyLaw wrote:
Jayb I do have one question.
Why did you pick SS out of everyone who hasn't done much yet? Looking at the list there are a number of other candidates. Why him in particular?
On February 05 2014 10:55 JonnyLaw wrote:
Jay, what did you think of Suki's case on oats? I understand you like that someone finally put hard content in the game but what's your take on her views?
2) He only made a case on somebody else when forced to by the pressure from several votes, not before.
Furthermore, Jonny's case on Koshi really feels to me like he just opened Koshi's filter and tried to spin each post in turn so that it looked scummy, rather than drawing a reasoned conclusion from Koshi's filter as a whole.
I don't feel like a townie would seriously believe that case. I'm not 100% certain that Koshi is town myself but that case doesn't convince me one bit.
3) Jonny's position on LoneMeow makes no sense.
He claims to have a scumread on LoneMeow:
Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 17:49 JonnyLaw wrote:
Uhh I called you scum? that's about it. No but I'm still not convinced. I don't have any clear town votes yet.
koshi, slam and lm for scum. koshi for content and lm slam for lurking.
rest neutral. i'm bad at finding town. i can find scum though.
even though he's barely read LM's posts:
Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 18:02 JonnyLaw wrote:On February 08 2014 17:59 Aquanim wrote:
Have you actually read LoneMeow's posts?
no, not really. I rushed to catch up.
Words fail me. Throwing Alak and LM on his scumreads along with Koshi was really, really lazy, and reeks of somebody not taking scumhunting seriously.
4) There's also this:
Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 23:36 Aquanim wrote:I feel like this response by Jonny:
On February 07 2014 16:15 JonnyLaw wrote:
Why do you even want me to look at that Suki? Balla says I think his king post was funny. Am I supposed to take that seriously? I refuse to do so.
I talk to Jay about the last game. Uhhh....I felt bad for tunneling a townie so hard? I want jay to play the game and you guys start out right where I fucking left off. If he's scum (which I get to in my next post) we can lynch him.
And Balla's mad that I don't think he's paying attention and I refuse to call him "king." Yeah...what is there to say about that "case" on me.
Finishing the jay post. be back with you in a second.
misinterpreted some of Balla's points and completely ignored the strongest one.
If y'all aren't voting for JonnyLaw when I wake up tomorrow morning, you'd better have a damn good reason. 1. He's not interested in finding out people's alignments. True.
2) He only made a case on somebody else when forced to by the pressure from several votes, not before.
ehh.. this is debatable. I sensed no hesitation to provide reads.
3) Jonny's position on LoneMeow makes no sense.
Jonny's position is LM is scum for lurking and he didn't read LM's posts. This is careless but it's not contradictory, because LM doesn't have a very large filter.
4) There's also this:
On February 07 2014 23:36 Aquanim wrote:I feel like this response by Jonny:
Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 16:15 JonnyLaw wrote:
Why do you even want me to look at that Suki? Balla says I think his king post was funny. Am I supposed to take that seriously? I refuse to do so.
I talk to Jay about the last game. Uhhh....I felt bad for tunneling a townie so hard? I want jay to play the game and you guys start out right where I fucking left off. If he's scum (which I get to in my next post) we can lynch him.
And Balla's mad that I don't think he's paying attention and I refuse to call him "king." Yeah...what is there to say about that "case" on me.
Finishing the jay post. be back with you in a second.
misinterpreted some of Balla's points and completely ignored the strongest one.
If y'all aren't voting for JonnyLaw when I wake up tomorrow morning, you'd better have a damn good reason.
The last point I've already addressed.
Um. Point 1 can be seen as scummy. The other points not so valid.
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Koshi's follow up:
On February 08 2014 21:59 Koshi wrote:
The biggest thing is still his disappearing act early game, not commenting on anything, and coming back to the thread with a "case" on me that was a misinterpretation of pregame posts.
The no case on Balla. No more comments about it.
The rush to get out of the thread at the end of the latest case.
And then just his filter. I don't know if it is hilarious because I know I am town but really. There is nothing.
I like this follow up.
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And now everyone is putting on their party hats and saying we caught scum.
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