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Both unreadable and an empty seat. Slam looks pretty sketch as well. | ||
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Are you unable to read or think yamato? Vayne's an unreadable troll whose spot would be better filled by a lemur who just hit random keys. The monkey's reads would probably be better as well. Slam's first post makes me get the feels that he's Alakascum instead of Alakaslam. Wave, why did you not address me by my real name.? | ||
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 how do you read Vayne. WTF is PoE? | ||
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 Explain to me why you didn't autopark your vote on me when you were expecting me to troll this game? | ||
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On February 08 2014 12:36 Risen wrote: I don't know I haven't played in a while and before that there was another long break :S Town meta: I'm useful eventually Scum meta: Bus the homies Bad in general. As town I don't care enough to rage. I will in fact shut down the thread with my rage as scum. I think you were pretty useless in LoL, not 100% on that. I thought you were useless and scum in Noir. And TL is fucking up so I can't tell what I thought of you in Aperture 2. So how do I tell the difference between you being useless early and being scum bussing? | ||
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##vote Oats Stupid question bro. I put my vote where I wanna. | ||
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On February 08 2014 13:13 VisceraEyes wrote: Why would that warrant a vote? Should I be voting for you? No just weird you brought it up in TS but not here. | ||
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On February 08 2014 13:16 Oatsmaster wrote: So I post 2 posts and you can tell that im too nice? How am I being too nice? Because you're not being a dick yet. | ||
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[image blocked] See... If you behave I will even give you scooby snax. So slam... using your powers of SVENGALI tell me who you are most interested in stating "I would've gotten away with it too if it wasn't for those kids and their dog" | ||
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On February 08 2014 16:36 VisceraEyes wrote: Geript what do you think of yamato? I read him right pretty early on in Sicilian I think it was; DrH didn't agree with me at first (I was shadowing). Other than inactivity nothing jumps out at me either way. What do you think of Cora? | ||
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@VE it was about your plan on how to handle me from your QT with BH. | ||
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On February 08 2014 19:03 yamato77 wrote: I said this last game and got yelled at for it, but yeah, I agree. Town should be quiet during the dawn about ANY reads, really. Fuck no. That's the question he's referring to. I remember this specifically from the podcast; I think you and Mocsta were all for it. It's dumb. That's another 24 hours we have to scumhunt and the nomination day is short. Fuck that plan and you're scummy for supporting it. | ||
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On February 08 2014 19:12 yamato77 wrote: No, it's smart play. There's no reason to let scum have any more information about your reads after the flip. Nomination days are literally the least useful days for scumhunting anyway. No... the plan was scum favored and scum helped push it. Ask VE. | ||
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On February 08 2014 19:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: VE and geript what's it exactly you think is wrong with yamato? I certainly do not argee with the inactvity comment, you might wanna elaborate on that geript. My perception of yam is as a pretty active/posty type player in the early game. So a quick fucking off has weird feels. I'll talk to you more in the morning, I'm struggle to stay awake. | ||
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On February 08 2014 19:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: yamato has already posted ~10posts less than he did in all GoT game on D1. Not to mention that game had a house election on N0 so there was a shitton more to talk about on D1. He has also posted more than in the whole Sicilian game (which had the posting limit so i don't even get why you bring that game up in the first place) so i would really like you to show me where you are basing this argument. Looks like I was just misremembering. I only remembered this post: On February 08 2014 12:52 yamato77 wrote: Does anyone actually have anything useful to say or can I ignore this thread for ~24 hours? Thinking he popped in and then fucked off. Guess I'm going to have to start taking notes since reading and playing lol doesn't work | ||
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On February 08 2014 21:31 WaveofShadow wrote: Risen totes town though Feels I'm here wubbybumpkins... explain this one to me. | ||
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On February 09 2014 05:55 WaveofShadow wrote: Apparently I'm not supposed to have townreads (unless you disagree with Rayn's explanation to me)? Even then, feels require no explanation. They come from the heart. I have some stuff for you though, did your frenetic posting earlier on in the game have a specific point to it? And your vote on Oats atm? If you actually think Oats is scum what do you make of his vote on Rayn? Getting my daily in. Brb. Short reason, at first it was a troll vote, but oats is looking scummy to me now. His gore... Meaningless | ||
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On February 09 2014 06:06 WaveofShadow wrote: This is an intriguing question, but do you find it all at odds with the idea that we should not be giving out townreads in this game? As for myself nobody ever thinks I'm obvtown D1, but I will be D2. Geript: his gore? Risen: I'd personally like Cora to return to see how he responds to my more recent posts about him. I'm mostly ok with VE atm, but waiting on answers from him as well. Vote. Autocorrect. | ||
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On February 09 2014 06:33 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay so that's not it - anything in particular make you feel that way? I tend to agree because the last couple town games I played with geript he was content to just call people stupid and troll the game, and in this one he at least appears to be trying to play a normal game. But I hate lynching people for "not bad enough" play, if you know what I mean. ![[image loading]](http://www.starwarsccg.org/forums/images/smilies/keithface.gif) Why can't you of all people ever read my right? | ||
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On February 09 2014 06:37 VisceraEyes wrote: stfu geript, I've tried. You shat on me for it. Get fukt. Hunh? Whatever VE. I'll still be better at lol than you. | ||
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On February 09 2014 06:40 Palmar wrote: Well the last one is that he claims to have played strong enough towngame to be considered obvious town, decided to ignore Risen's inquiry about an explanation. I think it should be fairly obvious to himself he does not look like town to everyone in the game. There are several other things that stand out. He opened the game by going after two players unlikely to defend themselves at that point in the game. The Oats asked him about his intentios with the vote which is a perfectly reasonable question but that prompted geript to call the question stupid and countervote Oats, which is clearly not very productive. I mean maybe he's just decided to be a dick which would actually fit what I think of him in general, but it's not helping us win the game and if he continues to play like this I'd frankly simply be ok with lynching him no matter his alignment just so I don't have to deal with him. But there's also the option that he's being a dick because it's easier than playing normally when you're scum... so.. No this is blatantly false and Palmar's fucking scum for trying to push me like this. Everyone who's ever played with me should know like the simplest way to read me is by filter length. Marv explained it in LoL. It's been true every time. I fucking struggle like hell to post as scum. Palmar even fucking knows this; he played LXI or whatever one I was confrimed town in and my activity was shit for most of the game. Not only this, but Palmar is trying to skew my actions on Oats. Oats is generally pretty easy to read based on how much of a dick he's being in combination with his activity. As town, Oats is far more willing to get into shitfests at any moment and is far more active than he is as scum. Just like in LoL he wasn't a dick early, despite being given the option to get into a shitfest he's just avoided it. So yah, PALMAR IS SCUMB!!!!!!!!! Palmar is scum with Oats and is using his name to protect him just like Rayn does. | ||
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On February 09 2014 06:50 Koshi wrote: Well. At least we know you are town. Why don't you have a scumread on Palmar. | ||
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On February 09 2014 06:51 Risen wrote: Might listen to you if you didn't include things like this in your posting. Why are you lying about what Palmar is doing? I don't know what Palmar is doing exactly. But he's completely and intentionally misconstruing my actions against Oats. Hell, Palmar IIRC has had scumreads on oats before due to lack of activity. The fact that he's painting my actions on Oats so scummy and not even looking at Oats is scummy as fuck. He's chainsawing onto me and using his "name" to put pressure. How isn't that exactly what I posted and what he did? Second, how do you even know what Palmar is doing? That either means that you know that Palmar is town because you're scum or you're both scum together. Explain. | ||
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On February 09 2014 06:53 Palmar wrote: Are you denying this happened? I mean feel free to attack my conclusion, but you can't attack my premise, that's just dumb. Also, I don't care what you think about "how players normally are". I'm not going to let people get away with doing stuff on "meta". No. It happened. You're trying to skew my purpose behind it in a scummy light. Do you deny that you've had scumreads on Oats before for lack of activity. | ||
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On February 09 2014 06:59 Palmar wrote: 1. Where did I say I'm not looking at Oats? 2. I even said that I assumed the rest of town is better than me by now, so how am I "using my name" 3. He knows what I'm doing because he has read my posts 1. You're trying to push me based on complete bullshit instead of Oats. That warrants protecting him. 2. Despite what you say, we all know that you think you're the best at this game ever or some other hsit. 3. Why answer for him? Do you want to protect him too? | ||
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On February 09 2014 07:01 Palmar wrote: Well my conclusion was that it wasn't productive, as I said in my post. I mean you may think it was but to me what you did was not productive at all. Now we can debate whether or not it's reasonable to make the jump from "unproductive" to "scummy". So are all scum hunting standards set by Palmar now... Fuck that. You still think you're better than everyone else despite what you said and you can't even deny that shit. | ||
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On February 09 2014 07:08 Palmar wrote: Also, I'm still waiting for you to answer Risen's question about why you should be considered obvious-town. I'm expecting a bit of self-analysis where you point out why certain actions or posts can only be explained by you being town. And don't use meta, I don't give a shit about meta. How the fuck am I not supposed to use meta. I've literally been intentionally interacting with people to get a read on them. Like the Scooby doo post with Alakaslam. The best way to read him now and always is to determine whether or not he's having fun in the game. Like if he's carefree and having fun then he's town; as scum he gets all tense and freezes up. So my point was to get a series of interactions with him where I could tell the difference. The fact that he replaced out bothers me and I'm not quite sure what to think of it. Then there's the Oats thing which I've already covered. There's the activity thing which you seem content to ignore completely despite the fact that it's true. Hell, I even wanted to understand how VE was intending to approach Cora as I figured it'd help me give a read on him. Like I pick and probe so that I can get reads. I'm literally like the simplest person to read ever. The fact that people can't ever even fucking read me right is so frustrating when i was so fucking stoked to just be able to play a fucking game again. | ||
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On February 09 2014 18:47 VisceraEyes wrote: I explained why I have the read I do on Vayne. That wasn't the question. The question was what methods do you use to read Vayne? | ||
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On February 09 2014 20:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: geript why dat unvote? Because after rereading I don't think palmar is a good lynch. Like he's being a real jerk, but I think there's an honest disconnect in how he's reading me. | ||
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On February 09 2014 20:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Where the hell is the post about lurker lynch and who the hell was the guy who didn't include Holyflare. 2 posts above, isn't holy in modkill zone? | ||
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On February 09 2014 21:18 marvellosity wrote: I would assume so, purely for how he went after Palmar That was my read. I don't think Cora's a good lynch then because he reacted essentially the same as I did. I'm gonna look at oats, grack and holy again then. | ||
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On February 09 2014 21:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you are town and Palmar is town what would mafia!Corazon do? I don't know, but I see him as a reactive type player. So even if the thought process is bad, it's still telling. | ||
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SMB Town Titanic II Scum LXIII Scum For thought later on. I need to head to bed. I'll be back an hour or two before deadline but won't be available for any late shennannies. Right now I'd prefer to lynch Grak over Oats, but I need to think about it more. Note to self, look at Wave, Koshi and Rayn tonight. | ||
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Well here's some wisdom... We should be lynching Grack | ||
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First off, we can all agree that Grack's been useless this game. Unfortunately, this isn't alignment indicative of him though. There are some good reasons for him to be scum. + Show Spoiler [filters] + 1.He's objectively weird but no one has been interested in discussing him. Like he's gotten a complete free pass. 2. The Cora lynch has too much steam. There are way too many people ok with lynching Cora right now for it to end up being a good lynch. On top of that, Cora reacted to Palmar exactly how I had which should be a good litmus test. 3. Grack has bounced around to 3 different people with completely shitty reasons every time. 4. We get to avoid super awkward situations like happened in LXIV. 5. Grack has more swagger as town than he has as scum. Hell he's voted for himself both times as town (once was for mayor). He's also far more negative as scum than he is as town. It's weird to try and describe, but I'm not seeing any sense of confidence coming out of Grack. Most of his statements this game have been qualified: "I do think it could be" "I might be ok" "But you haven't done anything to try to solve the game?" There's a serious disconnect between these posts and how I read him in his other town games. 6. This is weak, but in his scum games he also uses quotes more than he does as town. It feels like his lack of confidence wants him to pad his filter with extra space. That's the bullet point. Rayn/VE your thoughts. | ||
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On February 10 2014 06:56 VisceraEyes wrote: I've literally never been able to correctly identify Grack's alignment. I'll look at the filters you provided, but I'll tell you that your bullet points don't really convince me. Like, a few people are getting "free passes" and how does that mean that any of them are scum? While it's true that scum wouldn't be chomping at the bit to bring up their buddies if they're skating by, why could they just not be townies getting a free pass from other townies due to being lost in the shuffle? And the Cora lynch - I agree that it having too much steam is troubling, but why does that reflect on Grack for any reason? Because scum usually don't D1 bus their partners. I'm about to head to clinical zoo though. | ||
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On February 10 2014 07:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: Who makes a case that says "Grack is mafia because Corazon lynch is too easy". srsly? A lynch being too easy is a pretty good standard of a mislynch. You know that. Why aren't you taking a serious look at other people? You agreed w/ me about the dandelion bus in nuke game because of it. Explain the difference here. | ||
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##vote oats I feel dirty following Vayne on this but it's a better lynch. | ||
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On February 10 2014 07:58 Grackaroni wrote: Oats isn't a better lynch. Explain. | ||
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On February 10 2014 08:01 Grackaroni wrote: First explain why he is a better lynch? No. You first. You haven't given any actual opinion on Cora up until now. You're not even fucking voting for him and your happy to push his lynch. You're fucking scum. | ||
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On February 10 2014 08:01 Grackaroni wrote: First explain why he is a better lynch? Plus you're strongest scum read is fucking voting for Cora... Like wtf!!! How does Oats not being a better lynch make any sense to you if you're town. There's no way you can be this bad as town. ##unvote ##vote Grack | ||
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On February 10 2014 08:06 marvellosity wrote: Answer the man, geript I've pointed out a few things that make me think Cora's town. Oats hasn't done shit which admittedly isn't alignment indicative but he's also been super pleasant. That's not his town meta at all. | ||
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On February 10 2014 08:18 Koshi wrote: How sure are you that I am town Grack? I'm heading to work and will be mostly Mia bc of two 12 hour shifts back to back. But look at Grack Koshi. Hopefully you listen to me so we can lynch scum. Cora put your vote on Grack. Vayne join me. | ||
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On February 10 2014 22:18 marvellosity wrote: You can hide behind me if you like, he'll hate that. You just made me snort decaf coffee out of my nose. Thank you dear. | ||
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On February 10 2014 22:27 marvellosity wrote: That's what you get for drinking decaf coffee I blame my brother. The asshole bought decaf because he likes it and left it at my condo and then drank all my Tican mocha blend. Jerk. Headed to get some sleep before I work again tonight. Initial thoughts: HF's interaction towards Grack is a better way of explaining what I was trying to point to prior to lynch. Palmar looks really weird to me for the following: On February 10 2014 09:48 Palmar wrote: He was guaranteed to get lynched. I don't think it's an insult really, I begged him to communicate with me but he refused repeatedly, then complains about people being tunneled in. On February 10 2014 09:56 Palmar wrote: However I was literally the only person on it, so I felt like I needed to make a stance on the VA/Kosher/Corazon thing. If you read my filter around that time you should see pretty clearly my thought process. But I'll admit to being at least a good bit biased because he's a turd wants to lynch me. I have good feels about Koshi and Marv after reading them. Wave is my buddy and is town; his filter length is the same as mine and I'm totes peachy keen on him. Need to look at Rayn and Vayne again with some sleep behind me. I'll be on my phone posting in bed if anyone has questions. | ||
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On February 10 2014 23:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: And why is Wave your "townbuddy" because his top scumread seems to be Koshi which is totally different from your reads geript? Bc wave and I have history and at a specific point i get an exact understanding of where he's at. Like Marv/VE or you/Koshi. I just think he's wrong on Koshi. | ||
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On February 10 2014 23:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am mostly interested in why you need to loo kat me over yamato who did the exact same things than me on D1 except that i actually got my target lynched and he didn't really seem like he cared for the most of the D1. Because I've played more with you than I have with him and feel like from voice I can get a solid read on you. | ||
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On February 10 2014 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: So you just let him be wrong about Koshi and don't really give a shit? But i might be scum because i am right on Koshi? Well this is quite bullshit because trying to compare voice mafia meta to forum mafia meta is bad and never holds any water.. I let him do his thing on Koshi because my time is pretty limited 1 so my ability to read thoroughly is down, because he should read me as obv town by now (and at least consider my opinion), because our schedules haven't seemed to align yet and because Wave needs the back and forth. Besides, at no point has Koshi ever been under any actual realistic lynch potential. I really don't get why you'd expect me to protect a townread when there's no chance of him being lynched right now. No, I think you might be scum because of how/when you pushed things. With you I need to go into more depth in a read than just filters. And yes, while voice doesn't transfer over 100% I don't think it's a 0% rate either. Like you make conscientious attempts to protect your scum bros until they're Unsalvageable. | ||
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On February 11 2014 05:19 VisceraEyes wrote: I looked at him and saw Grackaroni. If you end up thinking he's scum, I look forward to a better case than geript's. We can be friends if you'd like. I know how you like other people all up on your tower. | ||
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##vote palmar | ||
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##unvote ##vote rayn | ||
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On February 19 2014 09:56 marvellosity wrote: yeah i'm sorry about that day 2, i feel worse for it now. we could have had a good lynch. both keir and holy were decent lynches but i literally didn't have time to read their posts so i gave up. meh. I still don't think I was a good lynch for D2 at all. But "snowmegeddon" and I'm finally graduated... again. Now I get to prepare for another bigger moreimportant test. | ||
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On February 19 2014 13:49 Keirathi wrote: Apologies to my teammates. When I replaced in, I knew I was scheduled to work a bit, but someone came down with the flu so I ended up covering a lot of extra shifts this week. That, plus 24 hour cycles meant I was missing the important times in the thread when people were around. Not that that excuses not posting, though. TBH before i replaced, geript was my #1 scum read. Should have known that was who I was replacing Also it felt like the biggest proponents for my lynch in the times I *WAS* around was my own teammates, which was extremely demoralizing. So I just gave up and I feel pretty bad about it.Probably my last game for a while again. GL fellas! Sorry. I really don't get why anyone had scumreads on me. Of course I replace out because my free week got stuffed unexpectantly and I wouldn't be able to post or read for more than 20 min a day. Then once I replace out not a few hours later everything gets cancelled I was dually frustrated that day. | ||
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On February 22 2014 07:09 Risen wrote: Question: is this setup town favored? The entire game I felt like town was getting outplayed but we still came so close Didn't you just answer your question? I mean, scum not having any realistic control of being able to kill obvious townies is super town favored. Seems evidenced by the fact that, in your words, you got outplayed but were super close to winning. | ||
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