I don't know Wave. I don't think yamato's filter is particularly bad. Now, it's easy not posting badly when you don't post at all, but whatever.

WoS, do you think there is mafia in me/ve/hf?

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

February 18 2014 13:26 GMT

#3175

And I can't quantify why Oats is mafia right now.

I just think he is. It's mostly got to do with him being so wobblycloggerish.

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

February 18 2014 13:32 GMT

#3177

Went back and read you vs yam

found this:

On February 13 2014 06:28 marvellosity wrote:

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Wave I'm finding it real hard to side with you this game, and not because you've been snippy with me. If I'm picking sides I'm on yamato's side.

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

February 18 2014 13:38 GMT

#3180

Sure.

But I did not really come away from that conversation thinking much one way or the other about you guys.

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

February 18 2014 13:40 GMT

#3181

On February 18 2014 22:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
Who would your team be right now if you had to hazard a guess? Would you replace me with yamato?

I don't know. I am just looking for whoever is the most likely to be scum today. You could be, but there's nothing that says oats/yam can't be scumbuddies. And hf/ve could be scum.

Game hard.

So yeah.

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

February 18 2014 13:57 GMT

#3184

he did it night 1 too, I think. I re-read that earlier today.

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

February 18 2014 14:31 GMT

#3190

Thing about that yamato read is that he was never going to push off keir, so why expose himself to the idea that he may have wanted not to lynch keir. it makes little sense from scum perspective.

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

February 18 2014 15:55 GMT

#3198

On February 19 2014 00:26 yamato77 wrote:

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You apparently have read my filter, and don't think it looks bad, so why am I being discussed? It was once correct that if I didn't particularly care about a game, I was mafia, but that's not even the case. I've played back to back games now where I have been demotivated to play. At least early on this game, I tried figuring things out.

If there is anything you think that muddies my image, bring up your concerns. I haven't read anything specific. It's all vagaries like "he's more active as town" which are the same kinds of things used against me in Quiet Game.

As for who we should lynch, I think it's clear that you/ve/HF are town, so it should almost certainly be in the oats/wave/risen group. I see you vote Oats. What makes him a better lynch than one of the other two?

Does it matter if you actually believe what you just said?

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

February 18 2014 15:57 GMT

#3199

I am liberally reading "I think it's clear", I guess, but assuming that is indeed your belief, the game is solved from your point of view if you're town. I wonder how that could possibly have gone past you?

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

February 18 2014 16:24 GMT

#3202

On February 19 2014 00:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah I'm fine with yamato lynch. Like, in other games in general I'm able to super fastly just commit to townYamato. He's really giving us nothing to work with this game, and with everything else I think he's just the best target.

##Vote: yamato

Are we sure this is the right thing honey?

It feels like I'm driving off a cliff holding your hand and hoping for the best...

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

February 18 2014 16:43 GMT

#3204

@VE why did mafia put you up over holyflare?

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

February 18 2014 18:03 GMT

#3210

Maybe we should just lynch risen for trying to kill wos

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

February 18 2014 18:08 GMT

#3212

put your vote on risen instead pls. I will fix mine when I am back at a computer. can't go into explanations until after you've gone

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

February 18 2014 18:13 GMT

#3214

oats I still think you're scum. I just need to find time to read a particular game

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

February 18 2014 18:18 GMT

#3216

oh i will fuck it up. ve and hf aren't playing

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

February 18 2014 19:54 GMT

#3236

I'm confused, what just happened?

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

February 18 2014 19:58 GMT

#3237

@Risen, Grack thinking HF is scum has nothing to do with whether he is or not.

I think HF is scum, but I guess we have to sort of ignore that possibility based on the situation we're in. The happenings around the VA lynch are pretty redeeming for HF. Despite having been wrong on everything so far, HF was raging until the last minute before Koshi casually stepped in and point it out to him that HF could simply not get lynched by voting for the counterwagon.

Koshi wasn't mafia, and I sort of agree with Koshi it's unlikely mafia would fuck up like that. Based on that, and that alone I'm going to assume HF is town.

I am not sure who to go for now.

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

February 18 2014 20:00 GMT

#3239

On February 19 2014 03:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm playing, I'm just doing a lot of stuff simultaneously. Why are you thinking yamato isn't the right choice?

I read his filter.

It's not particularly good, it's just that I can't pick out that "AHA, HE'S SCUM!" moment. The closest thing is his very strange rage on day 1, and how he softly called out geript and risen in a post before turning his head to Cora. At least one of geript and risen is scum.

I'm honestly just very confused right now.

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

February 18 2014 20:03 GMT

#3241

But in yamato's defense, I wrote a case on him in on day 2 that he answered without stressing out too much about it (seems like the non-standard reaction, everyone else just blows the fuck up for some reason...). I like his answer there. And he did (even if softly) help me call out geript's bullshit on day 1, he was one of the few people who were at least somewhat with me on that case.

I also read his interaction with WoS at wave's request, and I can't tell I'm coming away particularly leaning one way or the other.

Maybe yamato is scum for simply lacking strong opinions and being useless, but I can't find anything that makes him scum based on what he posted.