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On February 18 2014 22:38 WaveofShadow wrote: Who would your team be right now if you had to hazard a guess? Would you replace me with yamato?
I don't know. I am just looking for whoever is the most likely to be scum today. You could be, but there's nothing that says oats/yam can't be scumbuddies. And hf/ve could be scum.
Game hard.
So yeah.
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Alright well of my three yamato seems like the best choice from what I remember and where I am in my re-read. Moving on. More stuff I read: VA also had Oats as a scumread along with Geript/Keir and HF... If throughout I find that more people talked about Oats without him being pushed as a reasonable lynch there may be good reason for that.
I wonder if a better question than 'Can anyone read Oats' is 'does anybody think he is town (and why)?'
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On February 13 2014 15:20 Oatsmaster wrote: nommed people probably Palmar+Koshi+town out of me/hf/grack/Risen.
How many times did Oats do this and was right? Does scum do this for WIFOM? Ugh
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he did it night 1 too, I think. I re-read that earlier today.
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On February 18 2014 22:57 Palmar wrote: he did it night 1 too, I think. I re-read that earlier today. Yeah. It's funny because I remember thinking the same thing about the nom lynches but I don't know what his goal was by announcing it. As town would you be trying to WIFOM scum into doing something different? As scum are you trying to make people think ' no way would scum announce what you are about to do?'
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And reading through the grack/HF shitfest I think I side with HF honestly...it's hard for me not to feel sympathetic when I completely agree with his points re: people who aren't doing much and skating by (again, am guilty of it somewhat myself this game and I wholeheartedly apologize). Grack keeps bringing everything back to him when HF is also trying to drive conversation elsewhere.
Palmar stop intentionally pissing people off. 
Also this, when called out for VE being missing on his list of players
On February 14 2014 01:45 Oatsmaster wrote: apparently not. Huh. Thats interesting. and never adds him. First thing he does when he comes back is gloat about being right about Noms.
Fuck SOMEBODY tell me what Oats is. I can't pinpoint anything he does from one specific perspective because his play is so erratic.
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Hmm. Remembered I was wrong about that nom and Koshi being scum, was wrong about Grack too---ugh this could be one of those games where I'm wrong about a lot but then I remember I was right about Geript and VA. Trying to re-evaluate my own early reads and see if this affects VE or Risen...not likely VE imo, more likely Risen but I'm reaching a VE-heavy section so I'll be more sure.
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yamato's return on the Keir lynch day was basically just +1s of everyone.
On February 16 2014 00:47 yamato77 wrote: I do like that idea.
Marv was a shithead this game.
On February 15 2014 23:25 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 19:40 Oatsmaster wrote: Yeah this game went bad fast. Yamato, who do you want to lynch? I'd lynch Keir or VE, like I've been saying. I suppose Palmar is right. I should trust the geript read over trying to make sense of how these lynches are happening. I don't have the time today to really make a concerted push away from Keir anyway, so if he's not mafia, the game is over. If he is, I'll get one more crack at solving this thing for certain on Sunday. ##Vote: Keirathi
Input from VE looks good.
On February 16 2014 02:32 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2014 02:30 VisceraEyes wrote: You don't though, if you're town then you're well aware that I can play this way as town. So the easy conclusion to draw is that you're scum. This is me thinking logically. If you're town there is literally no way you could have a greater scumread on me than players like Risen/HF/Oats. It's like, impossible. So I think you're scum.
On February 16 2014 02:34 VisceraEyes wrote: Further, Keir had a "scumread" on you that he's been completely unwilling to push or even discuss. If Keir flips scum, you're next. <3
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On February 16 2014 03:45 Palmar wrote: I sincerely hope that at least one of you guys is town. Otherwise this is some next level trolling. I've seen the difference between scum-scum interaction and town-town or town-scum and it's actually usually picked out as 'fake' pretty quickly a lot of the time. Still say it's likely they're both town here but otherwise yeah all the interaction says is they're not BOTH scum.
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I may have too hasty on the above re:yamato. He actually does get involved re: VE though I disagree with his read and don't really understand where it's coming from at all. And then he backs off pretty quick. ugh.
On February 16 2014 04:28 VisceraEyes wrote: I've hated how all game you've been like "WTF no one is doing anything" whilst not doing anything yourself. I've hated how you've had nothing positive to add to anything all game. And yes, now I hate how you've got a scumread on me for inactivity while doing fuck-all yourself. Get over it. Do something if you're town. Otherwise let me and HF do our thing. I don't know how anyone can think VE is scum when he posts like this imo. Still defs sure of him.
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Thing about that yamato read is that he was never going to push off keir, so why expose himself to the idea that he may have wanted not to lynch keir. it makes little sense from scum perspective.
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On February 18 2014 23:31 Palmar wrote: Thing about that yamato read is that he was never going to push off keir, so why expose himself to the idea that he may have wanted not to lynch keir. it makes little sense from scum perspective. Ehhh. Reading through into the post-Keir lynch stuff I'm thinking I could be wrong about yamato but then if I'm wrong about yamato that means I must be wrong about one of you/HF/VE. (Of those three HF most likely scum.) I may still have been biased from that weird shit he had with me before I left (because that still looks awful from my POV) but stuff since then has been somewhat better I guess? Risen imo looks a whole lot worse after Keir went down, and while I agree with your idea of policy-ing him for effect, I really want to win this game so I would advise against it (also I feel like that's not likely to be a deterrent anyway). I'd rather we lynch him for being scum than being a meta-dick as town. I've spammed a shit-ton on this page so I'ma take a break and come back to the rest later, hopefully when other people are around.
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Man palmar I cant do shit if you intend to lynch me off the wobblycloggers. That emotion bit earlier with Wave was way super dramatic though, I wasnt thinking so angrily when I wrote it. I dont see why we take a potshot at me instead of lynching super scum yamato and giving us another 48 hours to prove ourselves or hammer the nail.
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Yeah I'm fine with yamato lynch. Like, in other games in general I'm able to super fastly just commit to townYamato. He's really giving us nothing to work with this game, and with everything else I think he's just the best target.
##Vote: yamato
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24 hr days still huh? That's gonna be brutal soon.
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hey Ve what do you think of me?
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On February 18 2014 18:05 Palmar wrote: I mean, even if we only look at volume, if I had the same volume of posting as you do, I'd be under heavy suspicion. We're both players of veteran tier, so I think you must at least understand why it is we're worried you might be scum. It is pretty clear that one of the reasons is that you seem to not care about the game at all.
If you then go on to refuse to clear up the muddy image, how on earth are we ever meant to win any mafia game ever? You apparently have read my filter, and don't think it looks bad, so why am I being discussed? It was once correct that if I didn't particularly care about a game, I was mafia, but that's not even the case. I've played back to back games now where I have been demotivated to play. At least early on this game, I tried figuring things out.
If there is anything you think that muddies my image, bring up your concerns. I haven't read anything specific. It's all vagaries like "he's more active as town" which are the same kinds of things used against me in Quiet Game.
As for who we should lynch, I think it's clear that you/ve/HF are town, so it should almost certainly be in the oats/wave/risen group. I see you vote Oats. What makes him a better lynch than one of the other two?
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On February 19 2014 00:12 VisceraEyes wrote: Yeah I'm fine with yamato lynch. Like, in other games in general I'm able to super fastly just commit to townYamato. He's really giving us nothing to work with this game, and with everything else I think he's just the best target.
##Vote: yamato This is exactly what I'm talking about. You don't have any good reason for this to be your LYLO lynch idea.
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On February 19 2014 00:26 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2014 18:05 Palmar wrote: I mean, even if we only look at volume, if I had the same volume of posting as you do, I'd be under heavy suspicion. We're both players of veteran tier, so I think you must at least understand why it is we're worried you might be scum. It is pretty clear that one of the reasons is that you seem to not care about the game at all.
If you then go on to refuse to clear up the muddy image, how on earth are we ever meant to win any mafia game ever? You apparently have read my filter, and don't think it looks bad, so why am I being discussed? It was once correct that if I didn't particularly care about a game, I was mafia, but that's not even the case. I've played back to back games now where I have been demotivated to play. At least early on this game, I tried figuring things out. If there is anything you think that muddies my image, bring up your concerns. I haven't read anything specific. It's all vagaries like "he's more active as town" which are the same kinds of things used against me in Quiet Game. As for who we should lynch, I think it's clear that you/ve/HF are town, so it should almost certainly be in the oats/wave/risen group. I see you vote Oats. What makes him a better lynch than one of the other two?
Does it matter if you actually believe what you just said?
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I am liberally reading "I think it's clear", I guess, but assuming that is indeed your belief, the game is solved from your point of view if you're town. I wonder how that could possibly have gone past you?
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Perfect count
yamato [2]- Palmar, WaveofShadow, VisceraEyes
waveofshadow [2]- Risen, Oatsmaster,
Oatsmaster [1]- Palmar
Currently WaveofShadow is set to be lynched. You must vote. If you see a mistake please notify. you have 8 hours and 20 min
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