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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 18 2014 20:14 GMT
#3250
On February 19 2014 05:11 Holyflare wrote:
I think oats is town :o

On February 18 2014 22:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
Alright well of my three yamato seems like the best choice from what I remember and where I am in my re-read. Moving on.
More stuff I read:
VA also had Oats as a scumread along with Geript/Keir and HF...
If throughout I find that more people talked about Oats without him being pushed as a reasonable lynch there may be good reason for that.

I wonder if a better question than 'Can anyone read Oats' is 'does anybody think he is town (and why)?
'

twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 18 2014 20:16 GMT
#3252
On February 19 2014 05:15 Holyflare wrote:
I was away for that bro! and I've definitely posted 1 or 2 things for him being town but I'm just comparing his meta's now and i'll get back with more info!

I know I'm just restating.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 18 2014 20:42 GMT
#3266
Will probably be phoneposting for the next little bit but I should be back before deadline (and can change my vote if necessary).

VE you want sheep?
Also I am a huge sucker for feels but I still wish there was something concrete on Oats so I could understand him for future games.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 18 2014 20:47 GMT
#3269
That post wtf.
I'll read that later but if it's a Holy-case on Oats it almost makes me think we should do the opposite to be right....
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 18 2014 21:38 GMT
#3286
On February 19 2014 06:35 Holyflare wrote:
I'm talking about your logic being flawed by the way. You think wave is town so your scum team would be oats/risen/yamato but I think oats is town so my scum team is risen/yamato/wave, the best lynch would be on the people that we think are scum together rather than the outlier that you do not know about because you didn't read his games clearly enough x_x...

Also, if oats IS town like I think he is, he is now asleep so if we vote yamato who we both think is scum then the scum team (because they are 3 people) can just vote a towny and win the game. The safest option is to therefore vote for risen who oats is voting for because he is the common theme in all of our scum teams and also the person who is being voted for by the now sleeping oats.

If oats is scum he's bussing the person we think is scum so we should then vote risen anyway?

Man has a point, problem is I trust Palmar over you buddeh, and I never had a chance to look over Risen (though by PoE he should be in my scumteam, unless I'm wrong about you)
At least in sheeping Palmar/VE on Oats I have a decent feeling about it...also if it makes any sense I have a better feeling about it since your case and Palmar's counter.

##Unvote
##Vote: Oatsmaster

twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 18 2014 22:02 GMT
#3299
I'm not following.
Why can't Oats be scum if one of you/VE/HF are?
And why am I scum now?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 18 2014 22:14 GMT
#3305
On February 19 2014 07:11 Palmar wrote:
I wish we could get yamato to come back to the thread to lynch Oats.

WoS, Risen, HF, you should all get on Oats.

I did.
And I agree re: the Risen point and understood it when he made it but I didn't fully follow the Oats thing.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 18 2014 22:34 GMT
#3310
He's calling you a champion of the light
Paladin
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 19 2014 00:29 GMT
#3337
Happy Birthday austin!



[image loading]


Who is umasi count


VisceraEyes (1): Risen, Keirathi
VayneAuthority (5): Oatsmaster, Palmar, Koshi, Marvellosity, VisceraEyes, Risen, marvellosity, Koshi, Holyflare
Keirathi (1): WaveofShadow, Palmar, Holyflare
Oatsmaster (0): Grackaroni
Holyflare (4): Grackaroni, Grackaroni, VayneAuthority, Risen, marvellosity,Koshi, Palmar, Holyflare
WaveofShadow (1): yamato77
Grackaroni (0): Koshi, Holyflare

Currently, VayneAuthority is set to be lynched.

If you see a mistake, please notify us. Voting is mandatory. 4 min remain

On February 14 2014 22:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think its far more likely that the scum spread their votes around because they didnt need to vote for town over scum.
Huh the way my scum reads currently fall is that every scum is on different people. Thats interesting.
I think the way we win this game is to figure out who is town out of the remaining not townie people. Currently Im thinking Wave/VE actually.


##unvote
##Vote: Risen
##Perfectscumrecord: WaveofShadow

twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 19 2014 00:35 GMT
#3346
I'm sorry VE
I still love you tho
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 19 2014 00:36 GMT
#3354
On February 19 2014 09:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Fuck off Wave.

U 2 Holy.

</3

Hey I could have invoked the name but I didn't
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 19 2014 00:39 GMT
#3359
If I didn't have to afk for the last half of the game I feel like I could have contended but yeah as is, yeah it was all HF.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 19 2014 00:40 GMT
#3360
On February 19 2014 09:36 marvellosity wrote:
on the bright side, at least i solved wave

You say that, but I get the feels that I'm going to get mislynched a lot going forward.

Speaking of feels....way too many of those this game.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-19 00:45:49
February 19 2014 00:44 GMT
#3365
On February 19 2014 09:41 Palmar wrote:
btw, I'm policy lynching anyone who claims afk or too busy to play.

You're welcome to and there was a long time where this was all I wanted to do; unfortunately it likely ends in more town losses than mafia losses.

What makes a lot of sense marv? I fully believe you've come up with stuff that makes me scum more conclusively, but I'm just saying that I get the feeling I may get mislynched more often now.

If it's postcount you think is one of those reasons imo then I'll definitely be mislynched the next time something comes up.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 19 2014 00:49 GMT
#3374
On February 19 2014 09:47 marvellosity wrote:
the things that made you scum just aren't present in your towngames. Quite often you say weird things or things i disagree with when you're town... here it was different.

btw i'm only talking about the stuff when i was alive, i didn't follow enough after to know what you did then.

Well I look forward to next time then.

Also yeah...this game was so damn frustrating at times...I think there may have been a little scum bias involved but I still have no fucking clue why you guys said Koshi/Grack are town. Just so many reads, so little analysis all game.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 19 2014 00:52 GMT
#3382
On February 19 2014 09:47 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 09:41 Palmar wrote:
btw, I'm policy lynching anyone who claims afk or too busy to play.


Yeah, everybody says the same thing after it happens, but they still do and they still survive

I wish there were lots of things to policy lynch for...ragequitting, getting "demotivated", pulling the "sorry guys if you lynch me I'll understand!" card, pulling the "vig please shoot me" or the "please lynch me tomorrow" card, and more.

Seem like lazy ways to play mafia to me perhaps :/
Like, you can do nothing all game long, make a single post, use puppy eyes, and everything is all good and dandy and you survive until endgame or something? If you want to win play, not use those types of excuses to WIFOM townies into not killing you.

Meh, I guess it's easier for scum to do that.
Someone should make a "Policy lynch" list in a thread or something and just beat everybody with it until people start lynching off it. If not everybody forgets.

Again the issue is in my case, maybe I used some WIFOM to try and get town not to kill me but I had every intent to play, and I can promise you I would have done the same as town. There was a foreseen period where I was going to be afk, but also a huge unforeseen period right before that that was unexpected, and I got legitimately really pissed at Oats for calling me a dick because of it.

If people expect that people should just afk and let themselves be modkilled if stuff like that happens I don't know what to say.
For the record I was also considering replacing out but Geript beat me to it, and I would have felt really bad if that influenced town in some way (which it always seems to) so I stuck it out.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 19 2014 00:59 GMT
#3390
Yamato was pretty sure he was going to go up for noms against you and Rayn but he changed his mind pretty quick lol
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 19 2014 01:00 GMT
#3396
On February 19 2014 09:59 Palmar wrote:
I also wish you'd have let me kill you VE, having an overzealous lynch HF grack in lylo would've been fun.

This actually would have been the better play imo.
At least to me, Grack was a way bigger threat considering he actually had the mafia team basically nailed down, and it was only a matter of time before he was finally able to convince someone.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 19 2014 01:01 GMT
#3401
On February 19 2014 09:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
why didnt WoS get the belt? he played by far the best

No disagree.
HF carried us through a huge period of inactivity (by choice or not) and stayed just on the line between town and scum enough that nobody was really able to nail him down with any confidence (aside from Grack...?).

Were I around more and didn't have to afk half the game I'd have had a shot at it maybe, but hands down HF deserves it.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 19 2014 01:02 GMT
#3403
On February 19 2014 10:01 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 10:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
i mean its not even close, WoS played far and away better then the other 3 scum but whatevs lol

matter of opinion. the case against wave was pretty strong early on, it was just ignored.

lol what was the case against me early on? I don't even remember. I think it was like you calling me 'shit-flingy' or something.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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