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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
February 05 2014 14:52 GMT
#948
Like this game all prome has done is basically say everything marv has said.

Copied marv's reads without giving any reasoning or original thoughts.

Now he is butthurt because people are calling he and marv mafia and is basically rage quitting and saying the same things marv said earlier when HE rage quit.

Sigh.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
February 05 2014 14:56 GMT
#952
On February 05 2014 23:51 Promethelax wrote:
look at say, the last 10 pages of this thread. You and Rayn have been the worst offenders while HF piggy backs on and 'me too's Wave has been almost reasonable, it isn't really fair of me to lump him in with you guys.


We called you and marv mafia, Prome. Because we said that we are: Bad, spewing bullshit and being self congratulatory?

That is so bullshit. We are trying to play the game. Calling someone scum does not mean we are being bad, spewing bullshit or being self congratulatory. The reason you didn't link anything was because there WAS nothing to link.

I don't even know what this is. It's fucking weird and it makes me sad.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
February 05 2014 15:00 GMT
#954
On February 05 2014 23:54 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 16:32 DarthPunk wrote:
On February 05 2014 13:21 Promethelax wrote:
Im around for a bit but after last game I'm pretty bored of talking to people I read as townie who think I'm scum for bad reasons.

In short the reasons for people being town:
Marv: meta. His tone and interest are in direct contrast to his play as scum ever. I can't show it to you because it is present in every post. Either you believe that I know how to read Marv based on his tone or you don't. However, I can and because I value my reputation on this site I would never commit to a read this heavily unless I was sure. I am very sure.


Cool. some bullshit about tone, actually zero reasons for his read And somehow he can't show me because it is present in every post of this this game. If it is meta show me the meta. Show me things he is doing this game that he doesn;t do in other games. Explain it. OH wait, you can't because you pulled the read from nothing an nowhere.

And that stuff about your rep or whatever is meaningless. If you are scum like I think you are you would say 'of course I knew better I was just scum'

Right. Absolutely no good reason to call marv town. Appeals to his 'rep' but can't provide one single concrete reason. Basically spending a lot of time saying nothing.

On February 05 2014 13:21 Promethelax wrote:
Wave: had some posts which read townie to me early on. I'm on a tablet so I can't quote. My memory suggest these had to do with his determination to watch Marv and his insistence of it in thread. Other people saw these as scummy but I liked them, they made sense from a townie who had misgivings about scum Marv in his past game but hadn't done anything to get him lynched.


That was literally not a reason to call wave town at all. You were right people thought they were scummy because it was. And that is the only reason you give for a 'solid' townread.

On February 05 2014 13:21 Promethelax wrote:
Iamperfection: seemed really townie. He niggled in ways I liked during early game. I'm sad he replaced out since he was making sense and generally read as town.
Lsb: has clearly thought about the set up from a town perspective. This gels with both my past experience with town lsb (PYPLOL) and my read of imp as town.


Oh look this person is town because he seemed town. You keep coming back to that as justification but it is meaningless. What does 'he niggled in ways I liked' mean? can you provide examples of those niggles and explain why it makes him town. Using vague fucking terms to give town reads is not something town do. Town KNOW why they think people are town, ESPECIALLY if people are so confident that they are eliminating them from the mafia pool.
Literally the setup speculation of LSB was not alignment indicative but at least you gave an actual reason on him.


On February 05 2014 13:21 Promethelax wrote:
DP: all the rage, it seems like genuine towniedp rage. DP plays a smart game of scum and screaming and kicking is a good way to get shot while at the same time ruining his chances of being listened to as a thread leader. Also I disagree with most/all of what he is saying which, counter-intuitively, makes him seem townie to me. In the past scum DP has tried to fit into thread and say similar things to townies and since he is not doing that I think he is town.

At least you give a reason for me even if it is just the same reason everyone else has given.



Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 13:21 Promethelax wrote:
I have reasons DP. I just never bothered to write them out. There they are. I'm not going to repeat myself, I don't think there is a lot of value in answering you in a case on me. If you lynch me I'll happily shoot Artanis. I don't really care since I'm clearly town and you might listen to my reads after I shoot scum.

I believe I've adequately explained my scum reads. If you disagree feel free to ask.


you actual don't have reasons you just spent 4 paragraphs basically saying these people are town because they 'feel' town and they have 'niggled' you as town and 'META that is in every post but I can't point it out to you' and 'tone' and blah blah blah.

Basically giving out town reads like this is really scummy. Town reads are easy to give out as scum because you don;t have to fake as much, it is easy calling townies town because you KNOW they are town. The problem is when you have been asked several times WHY and you still can't answer straightforwardly.

My top scum read shooting my second scum read sounds fantastic to me

##vote: Promethelax


All of my reads are valid and based on valid things, whether or not they are right we'll see in post game. However you took everything I wrote and shat on it. I haven't over justified my town reads, true, I haven't cared to. I only did so because you asked and while I believe you to be townie I want to work with you, instead of working with me in any way you shat on every single one of my reads and said they were invalid and made me scum. Since I happen to know I'm town and my reads are valid I'd call this post both bad and self congratulatory. [/QUOTE]

Well it could be WRONG (though i sincerely doubt it) but it certainly isn't all that other shit you were talking about.

Now, getting upset about a case is something I can obviously understand, But just as it was my fault that I raged out with holy, it is your fault what you are doing now.

The thing is that I rage all the time as town. I have never, ever, seen you do anything but be lovely and reasonable. So you are caught scum and are raging out. Makes sense, but I am going to ignore your bullshit ok?

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
February 05 2014 15:03 GMT
#956
On February 05 2014 23:58 Promethelax wrote:
Sometimes marv is right. It happens. I find I often see games in a similar way that he does and, for whatever reason, the players he feels generally comfortable reading are also the players I feel comfortable reading. Now Rayn is clearly on that list for marv while he isn't for me; hence why I have preferred lynch candidates who are not Rayn while marv prefers to lynch Rayn.

It is much better for town to lynch me than marv. Marv is clearly town and is a better player than me. I also don't think Rayn is as good a shot as Artanis. Therefore it is better to lynch me and let me shoot Artanis.

We should be lynching a townie every day. That is better play than lynching a scum. If we lynch a townie that townie gets to shoot into the scummy players list which we have drawn up as a town thus eliminating tow suspects, themselves and the other player. If we lynch a scum he can shoot whomever he feels is most dangerous to scum. I am happy to be the townie lynched because 1) I will shoot scum and 2) you guys are not fun to play with


Marv is not clearly town. The fact that you sheep marv has nothing to do with what is happening in the game right now and lynching a townie every day is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.


"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
February 05 2014 15:04 GMT
#957
Also it's my birthday. Hue.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
February 05 2014 15:14 GMT
#962
On February 06 2014 00:05 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 23:56 DarthPunk wrote:
On February 05 2014 23:51 Promethelax wrote:
look at say, the last 10 pages of this thread. You and Rayn have been the worst offenders while HF piggy backs on and 'me too's Wave has been almost reasonable, it isn't really fair of me to lump him in with you guys.


We called you and marv mafia, Prome. Because we said that we are: Bad, spewing bullshit and being self congratulatory?

That is so bullshit. We are trying to play the game. Calling someone scum does not mean we are being bad, spewing bullshit or being self congratulatory. The reason you didn't link anything was because there WAS nothing to link.

I don't even know what this is. It's fucking weird and it makes me sad.


Bad because you called me mafia. Self congratulatory because you keep saying I am mafia and patting yourself on the back about it


Calling people mafia makes me bad hey? and find a post where i did that prome? where did I pat myself on the back for calling you mafia?

On February 06 2014 00:05 Promethelax wrote:
Bad because you keep calling HF and Rayn super townie when neither is anything close to that. Bad because you are intentionally creating a toxic thread environment and at the same time bitching about it and I still cannot call you scum for that because I truly believe you'd do this as town. The fact that it makes you sad is at least relieving, it means I'm right and you are town.


They are super townie. You are bad for thinking marv is town and for thinking Holyflare is scum. See? I just made your exact argument. See how shallow and meaningless it is?

On February 06 2014 00:05 Promethelax wrote:
Rayn has no interest in engaging in conversation with me which means he is probably scum but I don't know how to read him so I'll leave it as simply likely. The way he plays has always bothered me and this game is no exception besides that he seems to have put his brain on hold to be an ass. Usually he can think while being an ass but that has not occurred here; I guess him being scum would explain that.


Err he is talking to you right now, and to be honest you haven;t really said much worth talking about all game.

On February 06 2014 00:05 Promethelax wrote:
HF can't even come up with original thoughts he just +1s the vitriol that you and rayn spew together.

He made cases on both you and wave first and made the first case on the gmae on me. Even though it was bad he is clearly coming up with original thoughts.

On February 06 2014 00:05 Promethelax wrote:
Yes, marv is also being a dickmiester, and yes that is unpleasent but like you I expect it from him when he is town. This sort of thing where he thinks he is better than everyone else and is a dick about people not listening to him is something he (and you) do as town. The difference is that marv has regularly proved that he is better than everyone else so I find his behaviour more excusable than yours.


That is like, so weird, he is better than us so when HE shits all over the thread the people that are the target of his shit are in the wrong.

>_<
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
February 05 2014 15:16 GMT
#963
On February 06 2014 00:07 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 00:03 DarthPunk wrote:
On February 05 2014 23:58 Promethelax wrote:
Sometimes marv is right. It happens. I find I often see games in a similar way that he does and, for whatever reason, the players he feels generally comfortable reading are also the players I feel comfortable reading. Now Rayn is clearly on that list for marv while he isn't for me; hence why I have preferred lynch candidates who are not Rayn while marv prefers to lynch Rayn.

It is much better for town to lynch me than marv. Marv is clearly town and is a better player than me. I also don't think Rayn is as good a shot as Artanis. Therefore it is better to lynch me and let me shoot Artanis.

We should be lynching a townie every day. That is better play than lynching a scum. If we lynch a townie that townie gets to shoot into the scummy players list which we have drawn up as a town thus eliminating tow suspects, themselves and the other player. If we lynch a scum he can shoot whomever he feels is most dangerous to scum. I am happy to be the townie lynched because 1) I will shoot scum and 2) you guys are not fun to play with


Marv is not clearly town. The fact that you sheep marv has nothing to do with what is happening in the game right now and lynching a townie every day is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.




No it isn't. Lynching a townie is BETTER than lynching scum IFF that townie shoots scum. It reveals two alignments and restricts scum from ever directing a shot. Take your head out of your ass for two minutes and think.


And half of the players in the game are not going to shoot who town says. Read cephiro's conversation about it with marv and then decide if it is a good idea.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
February 05 2014 15:21 GMT
#968
People that call marv town every game even when he is scum, so it is meaningless.

Wave

Promethelax

Evidence. Shadow game, every game ever.

Such a pointless argument
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
February 05 2014 15:22 GMT
#973
On February 06 2014 00:20 marvellosity wrote:
Prome I'll lynch you if you shoot rayn. I'm sure about this. See above


Shooting rayn is the dumbest thing ever, But you are mafia so i'm not surprised. >_<
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
February 05 2014 15:23 GMT
#976
On February 06 2014 00:21 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 00:21 DarthPunk wrote:
People that call marv town every game even when he is scum, so it is meaningless.

Wave

Promethelax

Evidence. Shadow game, every game ever.

Such a pointless argument

Go find in Shadow where either of them said I was 100% certain town.

Go on, chop chop.


They refused to lynch you. Deja vu. They didn't even bring it up. The only reason they have now is because they are forced to take a stance cause people are out for your blood. Unlike shadow game where you could just coast because nobody even VOTED for you.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
February 05 2014 15:26 GMT
#983
On February 06 2014 00:24 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 00:23 DarthPunk wrote:
On February 06 2014 00:21 marvellosity wrote:
On February 06 2014 00:21 DarthPunk wrote:
People that call marv town every game even when he is scum, so it is meaningless.

Wave

Promethelax

Evidence. Shadow game, every game ever.

Such a pointless argument

Go find in Shadow where either of them said I was 100% certain town.

Go on, chop chop.


They refused to lynch you. Deja vu. They didn't even bring it up. The only reason they have now is because they are forced to take a stance cause people are out for your blood. Unlike shadow game where you could just coast because nobody even VOTED for you.

lmao.

ahahahaha DP

are you seriously using the argument that "not getting lynched" = "100% declaring town"?

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

I have not enough ahahahahahahahas for this.


AS this has again descended into bullshit I will leave the thread.

##unvote

Rather shoot you than lynch you after you are both wanting to shoot obv town assets.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
February 05 2014 15:31 GMT
#988
On February 06 2014 00:29 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 00:26 DarthPunk wrote:
On February 06 2014 00:24 marvellosity wrote:
On February 06 2014 00:23 DarthPunk wrote:
On February 06 2014 00:21 marvellosity wrote:
On February 06 2014 00:21 DarthPunk wrote:
People that call marv town every game even when he is scum, so it is meaningless.

Wave

Promethelax

Evidence. Shadow game, every game ever.

Such a pointless argument

Go find in Shadow where either of them said I was 100% certain town.

Go on, chop chop.


They refused to lynch you. Deja vu. They didn't even bring it up. The only reason they have now is because they are forced to take a stance cause people are out for your blood. Unlike shadow game where you could just coast because nobody even VOTED for you.

lmao.

ahahahaha DP

are you seriously using the argument that "not getting lynched" = "100% declaring town"?

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

I have not enough ahahahahahahahas for this.


AS this has again descended into bullshit I will leave the thread.

##unvote

Rather shoot you than lynch you after you are both wanting to shoot obv town assets.


Artanis is an obv town asset?


Rayn.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
February 05 2014 15:32 GMT
#989
On February 06 2014 00:30 marvellosity wrote:
I'm getting worried about DP. I hope he's only tunnelled because his logic is breaking down horribly :/


Of course you are. I am calling you mafia so you must call me mafia or shit for doing so. le sigh.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
February 05 2014 23:53 GMT
#1043
On February 06 2014 05:07 WaveofShadow wrote:
DP/Rayn - The weirdest thing for me here is you guys ARE for the most part actually the calmer and more rational side here, so I don't know what to make of that. I'm still not a fan of your martyring, Rayn, I like even less that you seem to be doing it with a cool head. DP, you're calm now in the face of such stupidity, but where was your cool head earlier when you exploded in rage at everybody in the thread? How come now you get to be the rational side of things when earlier on you just get to rage quit the thread when it's convenient for you? It's like stepping on eggshells talking with you in this game most of the time it seems, and yet the time where it would seem more likely for you to explode in the face of irrationality you're fine with it?
What the fuck is this game.



Basically I'M embarrassed about my earlier behavior and the game in general so when I start getting mad I just leave the thread. You are right though. this game is very unenjoyable.

I'm trying my best not to make things worse, essentially.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
February 06 2014 00:04 GMT
#1049
On February 06 2014 08:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
Spend your birthday doing something that's not playing this PoS game.
I think it's time we lynch somebody and move on; the demoralization and atmosphere isn't going to spontaneously change without something to change it.

I am perfectly fine with lynching Artanis and getting him to shoot somebody at this point. If he is town and listens to us (really REALLY doubtful), great. If he's scum, I can think of basically positives to the removal of almost anyone from this game, both in terms of atmosphere/interaction and PoE.

##Vote: Artanis

I haven't looked into Prome yet like I said I would, and I don't plan to unless people plan on actually being here and discussing things like rational human beings.


I agree with this.

##Vote: Artanis

K I won't be back till tomorrow cause birthday and as wave said not going to play this PoS game on it.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
February 06 2014 07:27 GMT
#1061
Having a fun birthday so far, and I had some time so I thought I would do a quick write up of where I am at in a cool way that someone on VS used.

Super townie friends!

DarthPunk!
[image loading]
+ Show Spoiler +


Me. Clearly town and clearly sexy.


Holyflare!
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
Damn that mofo is sexy pie. Just look! IN all seriousness though after a truly terrible start between us, holy flare has just looked better and better to me. His pushes made sense and gelled with my thoughts also, he hasn;t taken any shit and has called out all the dumb stuff marv and prome and everyone else has done.

Love his push on Prome, not so much his case on wave, but even then I can see his mindset and his points make sense, even if I disagree with his read (though it could have changed since then?)


Raynpelikoneet!

[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
My super townie friend! Obviously town. His reads make sense, his arguments make sense, and the way he tried to be constructive with marv and prome even while being shat on were all really townie to me. Also his views on the game just being teh sukc are something that I can empathise with, although marv and prome are seemingly reading the thread in another dimension and cannot.


Not as sexy but still kind of attractive in the correct light.

Cephiro!
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
Liked that he would not be pushed around at all, his reads make sense and I can see through what he has posted that he seems to be thinking about the game in a townie way. Want more for him in terms of quantity but the content is there from what he has posted.

Wave!

[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
Iike that he seems to be genuinely upset at the atmosphere. I mean scum could fake that but scum would be loving it and he seems genuinely annoyed about it.

Liked his posting telling everyone to fuck off and that he would scum hunt in his own way. Don;t like his marv read, but it is expected as marv is good at scum and supposed to fool people. Would love to see him follow up on his prome filter dive that he has promised for a while now and not done.

Could be IRL but that is a pet peeve of mine and he has been posting in thee thread so that drops him down a bit in my eyes.


Scummers. Definitely need some beer goggles when dealing with these mofo's

Artanis
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
Dawwwwwwww! So cute. Kill it with fire!

Useless, keeps saying he will do things and doesn't, not engaged in the thread, Claimed scum. This is one baby seal that we need to club.


Promethelax

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First thing that was weird about prome was he was really abrasive when I tried to start a conversation with him at the start of the game, and then backflipped hard after I voted for him.

His reads are weird and never really explained even though he was pushed to many times. Weird and incorrect abuse of rayn and I, weird marv read. Weird weird weird, Scum scum scum.



Marvellosity

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OK so everyone who is seriously pushing him is basically Promethelax his scum buddy, and wave based on meta.

Marv is a good scum player who can change his meta. Anyone thinking he would play this game like he played shadow game is just wrong.

He shat up the thread. Calls everyone who calls him scum for good reasons, scum, and he should know better.

His play has been objectively anti town. His case on rayn is bullshit and he is trying to get people to shoot rayn because he knows no one would be stupid enough to lynch him.

The reasons that people give for marv to be town are either meta or because marv says so are both dumb as shit.

He has been scummy as fuck this game and if we don't kill him I will be super fucking sad.


I'll be back tomorrow.

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"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
February 06 2014 07:36 GMT
#1062
* pushing him (marv) as town. God damn I should proof read.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
February 06 2014 11:41 GMT
#1077
[image loading]

Game is boring, may as well do something

##unvote,

##vote: Promethelax.


Scummers got to die.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
February 07 2014 00:07 GMT
#1271
On February 07 2014 08:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Where dem other power players at lately?
DP it's not your birthday anymore, come back

(Though I loved that gif post)


Just got up and reading the thread now,

Glad you liked that gif post.

I was pretty upset that no one commented on how awesome it was. :D

from a cursory glance though rayn is like super super townie because he gives zero fucks about dieing.

he wanted to lynch promethelax who is very likely to shoot him as scum or town, and actually pushed for his hammer.

He wants to lynch marv who is very likely to shoot him as scum or town.

Like it just makes zero sense to suicide in that way as scum. ESPECIALLY because artanis was scum and was guaranteed to get killed at some point.
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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
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February 07 2014 00:12 GMT
#1277
ew this cephiro push the last few pages is weird.

Wave you said cephiro was townie based on 'feels' has your read on ceph changed now that you agree with what LSB is sayinG?
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