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Zarepath obviously did not have a fakeclaim, his reaction was genuine. | ||
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For starting and pushing Zarepath lynch so hard. There are other things that I don't like upon skimming through his filter but yeah I'll put my vote here and continue looking through filters. Not sure about kush yet. Going to re-read him again.. But here's something that never really was addressed earlier in the game: On January 21 2014 02:35 suki wrote: kush is leaning towards bum being town because Bum is "questioning the same things about VE's play" that he is. So kush must be referring to when bum was agreeing with my original case (which was horrible), which pegged VE as scummy. Specifically, bum makes two posts which speak about VE: + Show Spoiler + On January 20 2014 18:29 bumatlarge wrote: The scum hunt is strong with this one. I'd like VE to explain his thought process on the first part, he seems to be changing his mind mid post, then it would make more sense as town. On January 20 2014 18:33 bumatlarge wrote: I disagree, the only reason you think it's reasonable is because he is holding back because he probably wrong about you. I'm just working out what I can remember from VE if he posts like this as town. So. Kush agrees (?) that VE doesn't look good because of bum's points. Bum's points are my case. Kush sees Bum as town, but also sees VE as town. 1. He thinks bum is town for bum's reasoning, which is simply an agreement of someone else's case and no further follow-up 2. He thinks VE is town even though he agrees with bum's agreement that VE looks scummy. I find it hard to believe a town kush would feel that both bum and VE look town to him, based on the reasons he gave. I definitely see a scum kush screwing up like this. | ||
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On January 21 2014 04:45 kushm4sta wrote: Rayn I can see why you think I'm scummy. You read me pretty well actually. My advice is wait for tonight. Tonight, you! ...will be convinced I'm town | ||
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##vote kushm4sta | ||
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On January 22 2014 07:20 suki wrote: If you're plain old VT what's with this post: So someone tell me is this just me making a stupid case again? -_-; I don't see why kush would say something like this if he didn't have a power role...... | ||
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##vote Balla24 | ||
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On January 22 2014 07:59 Crossfire99 wrote: what else do you expect but last minute tl mafia shenanigans. Is this really a thing cuz I hate it -_-; | ||
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I'm off for possibly the whole night, if I can keep my mind off this game. | ||
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Spent a long time thinking. Mostly about how much I suck at mafia. Fun times. Anyways.. Here is my theory - kush, balla, Jonny as the scum team. Kush Select quotes from Kush: + Show Spoiler + On January 21 2014 05:26 kushm4sta wrote: Artanis u are wrong tho. Bad cases is how you catch good scum players kush doesn't follow his own advice. On January 21 2014 11:03 kushm4sta wrote: and my confidence stems entirely from the fact that he scumslipped. without the scumslip I would not be certain at all. The only reason he votes bum. On January 22 2014 01:09 kushm4sta wrote: going through filters and these are the ones im finding scummy Artanis[Xp] Barristanthebold bum On January 22 2014 02:22 kushm4sta wrote: So artanis vote on rayn is because rayn wont talk to him? Lol Terrible reason. And artanis has good reasons usually. I'm pretty sure artanis is scum. Artanis is scummy because of kush's meta read on him.. Not that solid of a case. Also no explanation of why Barristan is scummy. On January 22 2014 02:45 kushm4sta wrote: Yo maybe we should lynch crossfire instead. Ballas case was very convincing to me On January 22 2014 04:28 kushm4sta wrote: I would compromise on cross fire buddy up with Balla. So. My biggest question going through kush's filter like 5 times is, what has kush done this game? And the answer is, he's super hardcore tunneled bum for pretty much the entire game due to a 'scumslip' which is really hard to believe. The suspicious part here is that that's his entire case, and yet he pushes it even in the final minutes before the lynch. Um. He makes shitty cases on Artanis, states Barristan is scummy without any justification.. Then decides Balla's case on crossfire is amazing and actually puts a lot of effort trying to get people to take notice of it, while defending Zarepath (which Artanis has already said is suspicious). So. I'm thinking kush has been trying to push Balla as a townie guy with good scumhunting ability.. He asked me for my opinion of Balla and I said Balla looks townie to me, so maybe he was using that as a platform to get Balla town-cred. Something that also stands out is kush votes Balla at the beginning of the game for lack of activity, and he likes bussing so yeah. Basically, Kush hasn't done anything but hardcore push a bad case on bum, which is based on one scumread and no other justification. He also buddied up with Balla and tried to get Balla towncred. ---- JonnyLaw This set of quotes right in the role-claim fiasco stand out to me: On January 22 2014 06:36 JonnyLaw wrote: What other option is there rayn? You want modkills or him breaking the rules make us change our votes? That's fucked up and you know it. I'm town as shit but I want a fair fucking game. Is there any way you were changing your vote before the deadline without that post? On January 22 2014 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: No townie wants anyone modkilled especially when mafia has fakeclaims and it's easy to prove and i have asked the hosts about it already. On January 22 2014 06:37 JonnyLaw wrote: I considered not commenting on this issue at all because someone's going to use it as an excuse to call me scum later. Fuck that. If I'm scum there zero motivation for me to say a god damned word right now. I'm actually fairly pissed. I'm taking a break this is utter trash. Jonny is being awfully conscious of how his actions make him look scummy. Rayn doesn't even accuse Jonny of being scummy and yet Jonny's reply is 'Fuck that, if I'm scum I shouldn't be posting this. Ragequit thread' One thing that I noticed that was really strange to me is both Balla and Jonny had each other as scummy from the very beginning of the game. Jonny seemed hell-bent on pushing Balla as scum but really I didn't think Balla's play was that different, just his lack of activity.. Even Jonny admitted it.. So.. Balla's scummy.. and yet.. the only reason he's scummy is the activity level? And then when Balla flips he's like On January 22 2014 08:14 JonnyLaw wrote: I called that all fucking game. all I gotta say. Kush scum too. I'll make the case shortly. Grabbing a beer now. Also, why the hell does Jonny think kush is scum? He never really gives any reason but seems like he's convinced that kush and balla are teammates from the very beginning: On January 21 2014 07:52 JonnyLaw wrote: ##unvote ##vote kushmasta I think kush is scum. I think balla is scum. I think kush put a bus vote on balla and got an easy out when I said something. No one else will vote balla. Lynch kush. Mm.. Anyways, after finishing this analysis I'm pretty sure of this. Jonny and Balla started attacking each other from the start but their antagonism towards each other makes no sense to me. Kush has been playing shit and buddying up with Balla for a stupid case on Crossfire. Lynch Kush and Jonny for town victory. | ||
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Also I don't buy Jonny's angry defense. I don't think he even tries to answer why he thought kush and balla were scummy since the beginning of the game. In this post, Balla says Jonny looks bad, however he never explains why he thinks Jonny looks bad. Jonny's most recent post up until that point is this one. Prior to that, I think Jonny had been playing a better game than several people (Crossfire had already made his post which Balla jumped on later), so I don't see why Balla would think Jonny looked bad at that point. On January 22 2014 17:33 JonnyLaw wrote: Suki, I'm not even responding to your shit. I said multiple times I'll lynch balla over anyone else. I like lynching kush as well and town follows rayn. Please at least make an effort. Read Balla's filter. Half of it is him bull shitting around with kush. Balla kept getting personally angry when I asked him questions rather than trying to scum hunt which is the activity I'm referring to. A normal balla town game he would ignore me, call me scum or make a case worth talking about. In this game he just told me to stop calling him out just because he's busy. Are you kidding me right now? I thought we're in a situation where we have a modkill where my main lynch target fucked up the game. How am I supposed to be happy about this situation? You said the exact same thing. 1. Yes you did push balla and kush for the whole game. This is what I find surprising. In our game together where you were town, you said OWB was scummy for lurking, but you let off the pressure even though he didn't really contribute very much. But you got distracted by other people. In this game, you so single-mindedly targeted Balla as scum from the beginning and didn't even let off your pressure when he started to contribute. That's what's strange. 2. Balla didn't get personally angry. Actually he just made short responses to you and carried on with his reads. Also, if Balla was your top scum read, why did you not reconsider your vote on Zarepath when Balla voted it? Why did you also agree that Crossfire looked bad when Balla, your supposed number 1 scum, had the exact same reasoning that you posted? 3. Bum, you and I all wanted to wait until a mod response before switching our vote, but you were the only one to shout out 'HEY GUYS IM NOT SCUM FOR SAYING THIS OK'. It's this self-conscious attitude that I find is a scummy trait on you. 4. You still haven't addressed why you thought kush was scummy way back at the beginning of the game. On January 21 2014 03:29 JonnyLaw wrote: Also, I think balla's scum and I don't know how to read kush at all. Maybe scum too. On January 21 2014 07:52 JonnyLaw wrote: ##unvote ##vote kushmasta I think kush is scum. I think balla is scum. I think kush put a bus vote on balla and got an easy out when I said something. No one else will vote balla. Lynch kush. Somehow, you went from 'Maybe kush is scum' to 'Kush is scum and he bussed Balla.' With no explanation. This isn't like you. So yeah. - Still find Jonny's cases against Kush and Balla contrived and forced. - Find it weird that Jonny didn't double think his vote on Zarepath, and also found Crossfire suspicious when these were two (pretty much the only two) people that his #1 scum read found scummy. - Still find that he was too self-conscious during the roleclaim fiasco - Don't understand why Balla would say Jonny looked bad when he did. Crossfire's post that he later made a case on had already been posted, but the he chooses to single out only Jonny and Artanis at that time, without giving any reasoning for Jonny. Someone back me up here. | ||
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On January 22 2014 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: Nevermind seems like JonnlyLaw has a hard tme keeping his thoughts together as town. Yeah.. So why the single minded focus on Balla? Jonny hasn't commented on other people really, aside from the ones that I pointed out. In my game where he was town, he threw out accusations all over the place. Also his cases on people were a lot more involved. In this game he's just like 'Balla is scum I called it give me town cred.' | ||
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I find it really weird that he had such a strong scumread on Balla from day 1 and pushed it so hard. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense that he would stay on Zarepath when Balla agreed with it, or think Crossfire looked bad when that was Balla's biggest case. No? | ||
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I don't think JonnyLaw is playing good. I don't understand his aggression on Balla, I don't see how town Jonny could be so damn sure that Balla is scum, that's the entire point. I'm getting tired of you calling me bad every time I say anything rayn. | ||
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On January 22 2014 23:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Seriously, read this sentence over and over again. It makes absolutely no sense... The weird part is that he had such a strong scumread on Balla. How? | ||
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On January 22 2014 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: In your theory JonnyLaw has only accused Balla and kush on D1. So fuck yes Jonnylaw is playing his best game ever or Jonnylaw is playing his worst game ever. Which is it? Why the hell would town Jonny not doubt his reads on Zarepath and Crossfire if his number one scum is also on them? | ||
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I'm sorry I tried to play the game. I'm just horrible at mafia and should just go away forever. | ||
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