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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 21 2014 20:03 GMT
#801
On January 22 2014 04:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 04:44 Balla24 wrote:
Also I'm still having trouble understanding why you chose to try to get rayn to counterclaim your scum claim. What happens if he plays along?

Rayn told me it was a joke and wrote it off so I didn't pay it any mind but it turns out you had some real motivation for it so I do want an explanation afterall.

It's not about if he plays along. I was near certain he would. It's about how he would approach it that would allow me insight into the mindset with which he starts the game. It was also meant as kickstart for the game so we could go straight into scumhunting rather than talk about setup and policy and all that jazz.


Sure that's reasonable.

But why did you chose to call rayn scum based off of only that and barely mention other things that make him scum. Like you said:

On January 21 2014 04:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
No I'm not happy, because other than refusing to engage me in conversation you're now also attempting to destroy town atmosphere. I have found scum in you, and you are who I want to lynch.


But you didn't say how he was destroying the town atmosphere...
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
January 21 2014 20:09 GMT
#802
Thrawn, your case is partially built on Kush not being scum. Has your read on him changed?
On January 22 2014 05:03 suki wrote:
Right now bum looks really bad for pushing such a shitty case on VE, then asking VE questions and when those questions are not answered satisfyingly.... drops the case because nobody's listening to him. The town explanation is he's just frustrated townie not willing to waste any more time.. but if he is, who is more suspicious to him? Why drop your case on your top scum read who hasn't answered any of your questions, when you don't have anyone else who reads scummy to you?

Hmm. I'm going to have to reread Bum's filter with this in mind. The story of frustrated town might make too much sense to me because it's happened to me before. Perhaps I'll see what you see. Will be back in an hour to do so.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
January 21 2014 20:10 GMT
#803
On January 22 2014 05:03 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 04:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 22 2014 04:44 Balla24 wrote:
Also I'm still having trouble understanding why you chose to try to get rayn to counterclaim your scum claim. What happens if he plays along?

Rayn told me it was a joke and wrote it off so I didn't pay it any mind but it turns out you had some real motivation for it so I do want an explanation afterall.

It's not about if he plays along. I was near certain he would. It's about how he would approach it that would allow me insight into the mindset with which he starts the game. It was also meant as kickstart for the game so we could go straight into scumhunting rather than talk about setup and policy and all that jazz.


Sure that's reasonable.

But why did you chose to call rayn scum based off of only that and barely mention other things that make him scum. Like you said:

Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 04:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
No I'm not happy, because other than refusing to engage me in conversation you're now also attempting to destroy town atmosphere. I have found scum in you, and you are who I want to lynch.


But you didn't say how he was destroying the town atmosphere...

Because I build cases based on what I find scummy without adding fluff. Check LXIII to see how I pointed that out with Mocsta.
He was destroying town atmosphere because he was being unnecessarily abrasive.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 21 2014 20:13 GMT
#804
[QUOTE]On January 22 2014 05:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Thrawn, your case is partially built on Kush not being scum. Has your read on him changed?
[QUOTE]On January 22 2014 05:03 suki wrote:[/QUOTE]

It (my case) doesn't have to be, but yes.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 21 2014 20:15 GMT
#805
On January 22 2014 04:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 04:41 JonnyLaw wrote:
Crossfire has 3 posts of substance.

One is policy talk. Easy scum starter.

One he dives kush which does nothing. Kush plays however the fuck he wants and he comes back with a null read. That's odd in itself after all the work he claims to have done.

His third is a case on rayn which isnt even much of a case in my opinion.

He's not helping the town at all and not really playing the game.

Is there anything you find scummy about Crossfire that you find difficult to imagine from a town point of view?



No, I can imagine them. He's just lurking though so it's hard to say.

Wile - I agree. Just some rp and not really saying anything also.

Both are lurking hard. What else can you say about them? Do you want to policy lynch them for lurking?
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 21 2014 20:18 GMT
#806
@thrawn: I don't really have any experience with Slam at all. So let me ask you this:

You seemed to not consider the fact that he is claimed BoxeR. Does that fact change anything with how he might play. To me he seemed to get much less serious after he claimed BoxeR. Similar to when people become confirmed town they start sucking and not caring as much. Do you see Slam doing that here?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-21 21:32:58
January 21 2014 20:31 GMT
#807
Vote Count!

Kushm4sta (0) - Suki, Thrawn2112, thrawn2112, Wile E. Coyote, Rayn, JonnyLaw

Suki (0) - Kushm4sta

Thrawn (0) - Rayn

VisceraEyes (0) - JonnyLaw, Suki, Bumatlarge, Zarepath

Wile E. Coyote (0) - Rayn, VisceraEyes

Bumatlarge (4) - Rayn, VisceraEyes, kushm4sta, VisceraEyes, Zarepath, Suki

Balla24 (0) - kushm4sta, JonnyLaw, VisceraEyes

Raynpelikoneet (0) - Artanis[Xp]

Zarepath (5) - BarristanTheBold, Suki, Rayn, JonnyLaw, Balla24, Artanis[Xp]

Crossfire99 (1) - Rayn, Wile E. Coyote, Balla24




Not Voting (3) - Crossfire99, bumatlarge, thrawn2112

Currently Zarepath is set to be lynched. The deadline is Tuesday, Jan 21 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) there are remaining in day one.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 21 2014 20:32 GMT
#808
On January 22 2014 05:18 Balla24 wrote:
@thrawn: I don't really have any experience with Slam at all. So let me ask you this:

You seemed to not consider the fact that he is claimed BoxeR. Does that fact change anything with how he might play. To me he seemed to get much less serious after he claimed BoxeR. Similar to when people become confirmed town they start sucking and not caring as much. Do you see Slam doing that here?


Sure, he seemed less serious, but it's not as if he was trying to help find scum before his claim. He hasn't tried to find scum all game long. And if he's mafia fakeclaiming, would that not also give him a reason to feel safe?

Also I'm a little suspicious of the name he claimed becuase if alakaslam were to chose his own flavor name that's exactly the name he'd pick.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 21 2014 20:33 GMT
#809
Thrawn who do you want to see lynched right now?

Suki you haven't voted either. You don't like the zarepath lynch. Are you favoring lynching bum or some third party you haven't mentioned?
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 21 2014 20:35 GMT
#810
Can someone make a simplified consolidated case on zarepath? I've been finding all of the "x is scum because of what he said about what Y said about Z" stuff hard to follow.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 21 2014 20:36 GMT
#811
On January 22 2014 05:33 JonnyLaw wrote:
Thrawn who do you want to see lynched right now?

Suki you haven't voted either. You don't like the zarepath lynch. Are you favoring lynching bum or some third party you haven't mentioned?


No idea at this point. At the very least you can take the fact that I'm not voting certain people as indicative of something.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
January 21 2014 20:37 GMT
#812
At this point I would be happy for a lynch of Wiley, Crossfire, or bum. I don't know why scum would fake blue-claim like that, except that it apparently gave Wiley a free ride to not do anything else at all day 1. And I don't know why any of those three have failed to do anything at all today leading up to the lynch.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 21 2014 20:39 GMT
#813
On January 22 2014 05:37 zarepath wrote:
At this point I would be happy for a lynch of Wiley, Crossfire, or bum. I don't know why scum would fake blue-claim like that, except that it apparently gave Wiley a free ride to not do anything else at all day 1. And I don't know why any of those three have failed to do anything at all today leading up to the lynch.


yeah this is very much where I'm at right now
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 21 2014 20:41 GMT
#814
fuck no are we lynching wiley. blues are immune remember we agreed to that?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
January 21 2014 20:42 GMT
#815
On January 22 2014 05:41 kushm4sta wrote:
fuck no are we lynching wiley. blues are immune remember we agreed to that?


no no, he has to claim blue after we put him up for lynch, then we can't
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 21 2014 20:42 GMT
#816
kush that is so stupid. if we agree to that then every person up for lynch is going to claim blue, maybe even some dumb tonwies.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 21 2014 20:43 GMT
#817
On January 22 2014 05:41 kushm4sta wrote:
fuck no are we lynching wiley. blues are immune remember we agreed to that?



Actually I kind of feel like you agreed to that.

suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
January 21 2014 20:47 GMT
#818
um, I voted bumatlarge when I unvoted zarepath
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
January 21 2014 20:48 GMT
#819
Sorry I'm not voting WileE today either because it makes less sense for scum to fake claim than for town to stupid claim.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
January 21 2014 20:52 GMT
#820
Also 'not contributing' is a horrible reason to lynch somebody when we have so many cases on scum.
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