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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 20 2014 15:00 GMT
#241
i think your slam vote was too dumb to be scum
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 15:00 GMT
#242
but you jsut said your read on VE was based on tone.
What is your read on VE based on?

Why is he too dumb to be scum. Give some concrete reasoning and not fucking change the reasoning every second.
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 20 2014 15:02 GMT
#243
i never said my read on ve was based on tone. i said my other weak townreads were based on tone.
rayn it's early in the game. you should not expect my reads to be based on a lot.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 15:04 GMT
#244
But you have a town read on VE and i want to know what is it based on.
I also want to know where your read on me is based on
I also want to know where your read on thrawn is based on. Elaborate on your read, how is thrawn's posting more "formal" as mafia and why do you think it's not formal in this game?
I also want to know where your read on bum is based on. You say it's based on him questioning VE's play but he really isn't questioning anything, he just gives "might be or might not be mafia" comments.
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 20 2014 15:07 GMT
#245
@rayn
go away
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 15:09 GMT
#246
What you do as mafia is you give some half-arsed townreads because giving them is easier than giving scumreads, which is especially to you really hard to do. You are not getting away with unexplained town reads here because if you are town you have some reasoning for them, how stupid it might be, you must have a reason to call someone town.

If you are town you can explain those reads as you have given them, if you are scum you probably can't.
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Wile E. Coyote
Profile Joined January 2014
Mexico790 Posts
January 20 2014 16:31 GMT
#247
On January 20 2014 17:59 thrawn2112 wrote:
Ok Slam got another question for you. Just try to follow these requests exactly as they're written. Don't open spoiler #2 until directed to do so.

+ Show Spoiler +
1) Look at the player list and think about each player listed, then open the following spoiler.


+ Show Spoiler +
2) What were you thinking about while looking at the list? Did any particular names cause stronger reactions than others? Any thoughts on how the game may turn out from your perspective?

VE Rayn and Artanis would likely try & lead town.

I think.

That hasn't been happening as far as I see it.
I am a smurf for TL Mafia! ¡Comé el roadrunner!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 16:39 GMT
#248
I dunno what game you are reading then..
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 20 2014 16:42 GMT
#249
##vote kush

I was right
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Wile E. Coyote
Profile Joined January 2014
Mexico790 Posts
January 20 2014 16:42 GMT
#250
On January 21 2014 00:07 kushm4sta wrote:
@rayn
go away

When Rayn is town this is the response to ##Vote: Kushm4sta for.
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Wile E. Coyote
Profile Joined January 2014
Mexico790 Posts
January 20 2014 16:45 GMT
#251
On January 21 2014 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dunno what game you are reading then..

This one. VE is under suspicion and Artanis is lurking. You are doing exactly what I expect and not perfectly but not badly at all. I could see a scum bum, I actually missed the error in the red as well.

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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 20 2014 16:47 GMT
#252
[red]In this chapter, we will be looking at both Raynpelikoneet and VisceraEyes. A Bum Emersion Fanfic[/red

On January 20 2014 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 22:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
There isn't much to them. After reading through I can at least say that he weakly agrees that I look bad (though I don't know why) and he believes the boxer claim and he thinks other boxers should not claim.

I wouldn't mind some elaboration on his issue with me.


So here are bumatlarge's posts:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 17:32 bumatlarge wrote:
We'll, No one else should claim. One named VT doesn't actually tell us or the mafia anything. I have my doubts that Wile is lying unless he's being a very intentionally hard to understand smurf. "Chez" or no, it doesn't hurt that bad. Anyone voting for him for that reason is being awfully hasty.

green: believes claim
red: says claim is fake

which is it?

Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 18:23 bumatlarge wrote:
I'm assuming boxer means Named VT?

This is a question that has been answered twice in the thread already.
Useless "contribution" or not even reading the thread.

Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 18:29 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 20 2014 13:02 suki wrote:
On January 20 2014 09:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's dumb because of what rayn said - you're literally saying "Anyone who claims blue is immune to the lynch". Literally. What is stopping scum from just claiming blue whenever they're on the block?

On January 20 2014 10:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah I'm mostly indifferent to the matter. I can see the argument for it not being needed and it giving scum information, but I think it could help us in the future by 1) eliminating scum's ability to fake-claim it on the block and 2) forcing scum to decide now whether they want to fake-claim the role.

On January 20 2014 10:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
2 is pretty potent in my opinion. If you don't believe me, take a look at Kush's plan. He wants to make blues IMMUNE to the lynch.


So is kush's plan dumb? Or do you think it could help us in the future and there's a reason that's pretty potent? Or are you just indifferent to the whole matter?

On January 20 2014 11:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
It does NOT matter if scum figure out the setup before town does...in fact given the nature of this game that is pretty much a given. What DOES matter it's that we not tell them exactly what it is ON DAY ONE BEFORE WE GET ANY INFO OURSELVES, which is very possible if we have boxers claim.

Is it worth the risk? I'm starting to think not, but want other opinions.


Inconsistent views on kush's plan (he think's it's dumb / sees arguments for it / is mostly indifferent). Wishy-washy.

And I just hate the bolded red line in general.

##unvote
##vote VisceraEyes


The scum hunt is strong with this one. I'd like VE to explain his thought process on the first part, he seems to be changing his mind mid post, then it would make more sense as town.

Scum hunting is not strong with that one. The first part is entirely false and that's all he's talking about.

Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 18:33 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 20 2014 17:48 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
On January 20 2014 14:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Vote Wile E
His little act about not knowing what a boxer is does not really jive with the claim. Add to that the fact that he claimed 5 hours into the game after being very clear about how he feels about boxers claiming, and it all just looks bad.

This is a logical reaction.

I disagree, the only reason you think it's reasonable is because he is holding back because he probably wrong about you. I'm just working out what I can remember from VE if he posts like this as town.

Again implying the claim is true, and now he is not really suspicious of VE in the end.



TLDR;
Here's what bum's posts say this far
- Does believe the claim but does not believe the claim
- Says VE is scummy but VE is not necessarily scummy
- Asks a question that's been answered 2 times already.

##Vote: bumatlarge


Rayn, next time you grow the balls to analyze me, do me the common courtesy of reading it before you post so I don't have to waste time answering it. From now on if you have a post that you took 3 seconds to scrounge together an you want me to chime in/repspond to it, I'm not going to if I don't think you are trying.

1 - Completely misread
2 - Completely misconstrued
3 - Who cares?

Oh look the exact same amount of effort!

On January 20 2014 22:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oops okay, i misread the red colored part so ignore that. However it does not really matter as that's not really any sort of contribution as it says nothing useful.

VE, scum don't need to claim anything at all at this point of the game. Why do you think that's the case?

kush why am i town?


Oh, I'm completely wrong. but I'll take "minimal blame an keep my vote where it is" for 400 Alex.

On January 20 2014 23:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You have literally disagreed with every single thing VE has said in this game, how is it possible for you to have a town read on him?


WHAT KIND OF AWFUL ANTAGONIZING STATEMENT IS THAT? Only you would come to a conclusion like that.

Either Rayn has no interest in winning or applying himself, yet insists to post whatever pops into his hea into the thread, or he's mafia.




You'd think I'd vote for him, BUT THERE IS ACTUALLY SOMEONE EVEN WORSE. VisceraEyes ladies and gentlemen!

On January 20 2014 22:51 suki wrote:
I think Rayn is stretching a bit with his conclusions but that he's pointed out Bum's general attitude this far: Bum is sitting on the fence in general, and he's not contributing to scum hunting.

Bum, who do you find scummy and why?


Rayn's inane posting visibly having its effect on people. I'm allowed to be somewhat reserved in the first hour I enter the threa suki. And even then, if you read my posts, I am clearly not on the fence. The only thing holing me back from lynching VE is that I know he can be silly sometimes, but even afterwards, it perpetuates in all his posts even after the fact.

On January 20 2014 22:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah that all looks really bad.


I'm assuming this is referencing rayn's post.

I have to restrain myself from calling this the worst post, because I've witnessed townies doing this. Rayn makes a post about me. All of it is wrong. VE in the most generic and assuming way possible, agrees with it. Again, I've seen a townie do this, and I want to be sure about this. I mean, VE might have just skimmed it an be reconsidering agreeing-

On January 20 2014 23:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
What do you think of bum kush? I liked rayns post on the matter, and agree he looks bad. What do you think?

On January 20 2014 23:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think the timing is such that it is more likely to be a scum fakeclaim than town, but I'm not 100% sold on it. The more we talk about it, the more I can see a townie just not caring what he said earlier, and I guess it's less likely that scum would do something completely against what they previously went on record saying.

I can give Slam more time I guess.

##Unvote
##Vote bumatlarge


Alright, I can't ignore this blatant display of anti-town.

1. Blinly agrees with bad analysis. Maybe that's subjective, and I'm biased because it is against me. I'd make this point null.
2. Fails to support his own view, AND PROCEEDS TO ASK SOMEONE ELSES OPINION ON THAT. Looks like he wants to talk about it, but has no interest in actually doing that. Why not ask someone else to do it for you while doing nothing yourself? I don't even think VE planned it out that way, it was just instinct.
3. This asinine persistence to post about VT claims that have nothing to do with day 1. WHO CARES WHOS CLAIMING IT. It one of the most dead-end conversations I have ever seen. And it's WIFOM. Anyone can say it with 0 detriment, and I would have no opinion on it as of right now.

PSA: BUM IS A CLAIMED VT. THAT IS ALL, CONTINUE SKIMMING THIS BECAUSE I KNOW YOU AREN'T ACTUALLY READING THIS POST. YOU DUMB BASTARDS

##Vote VisceraEyes
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 20 2014 16:49 GMT
#253
Scum QT:

Rayn - "VE, ask kush more question like me."
VE - "I'm trying!"
Together but separate, like oatmeal
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 16:49 GMT
#254
wow. such angriness
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 20 2014 16:53 GMT
#255
On January 21 2014 01:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wow. such angriness


It's rare to see Bum angry. This is the part where you either argue with me or you bus VE after giving no read on him this whole game, but have asked just about everyone here what there read of him is.

I suggest it be the former.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 20 2014 16:54 GMT
#256
I don't get why people (rayn, VE) are spending so much time discussing kush's plan when honestly no matter how kush responds it's pretty unalignment indicative: from what i've read kush tends to 1) say whatever the fuck is on his mind, 2) argue for the sake of arguing

He came up with this plan pre-game before he knew his role. Regardless of whether he is sticking with it now how is it helpful to be discussing it? He clearly thought it was a good plan as town before he even knew his role. So let's stop questioning him about that.

It is annoying though that kush is elaborating on his reads like rayn is asking beyond the one liner explanations: i'd really like explanation on the flip-flop of thrawn-kush reads from both sides.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 20 2014 16:55 GMT
#257
Did wile just vote kush?

VE looking at it you're right. Kush's plan is dumb. He advocated it before the game started.

Bum's only contribution seems like a cop out.
4.) Suki, the scum god


Kush, why are you voting balla? Lack of activity? He's active when scum as well. Is it that he didn't like your plan and he's not being active?

##unvote

I ended up spending yesterday watching the playoffs I want to see what bum and balla have to say today. Otherwise, lynch one of them. I dunno what to make of kush' play. His plan is stupid but that doesn't make him scum either.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 20 2014 16:56 GMT
#258
Oh shit, I said that last line before this page of posting. Let me reevaluate.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 20 2014 16:57 GMT
#259
I don't get it bum, you say rayn's case is misconstruing but i don't see it, what specifically is he misrepresenting?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 17:01 GMT
#260
##unvote
##Vote: kushm4sta

stop it already bum, i have no idea what you are trying to do or why you get angry for no reason at all. If i have one invalid point in my case that does not make other points invalid as you try to tell here.

I have no read on VE. If i had to give something i'd say scum but i dunno yet.
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