EPTSo last post from me, the PPS-part is probably a TL;DR:
I was fully aware I'm getting myself lynched. I considered it the only possible option left to not auto-lose this on d3 with two consecutive mislynches. Lynching me might be a misslynch and a very dark situation for town to be in but not lynching either me or rayn would have brought us 2 consecutive cycles of bullshit that I considered to be deff-lose for us, the RB was pretty convenient that way (well actually if there was no RB I would have just forced mafia to shoot me but whatever). Also the reason I have refrained from posting. So that's why. [-redacted- I guess I can say that I did ask Dandel about this]
Also I actually felt really bad for Mig in case he's town prior to deadline. I did read that because it was so short before deadline but I really had to force myself to not post, sorry
On top of that, yeah I was emotional and to put this into context I've never been as angry about anyone's play before as this and I've been in games like this:
I'm 100% postive, I'd rather play with people like the above than have another game with rayn if he so happens to flip town. I can't believe how furious he made me with constantly sprouting bullshit and constantly being an arrogant dick about it and just not changing it even after having to realize that he's just plain wrong about everything he's saying like the 100% certain lynch on kush, the almost 100% certain lynch on grack and the 100% certain lynch on me, who all flipped town. I just can't believe how someone would be such a dick about it and just not at least drop the insults after that and not just at least for a second go mmmh, wait. Maybe my reads are off atm. I should probably restart this from point 0 instead of just continuing with my other reads like nothing happened
I don't mind if he's calling me a retard once or twice without anything besides it, obviously it's going to make me angry but whatever. But having it happen the entire game and like he said, there wasn't even a case about me no matter how I much I asked for them to just explain it so nothing I could respond to except for thrawns "he feels weird" ... duh thanks... and rayns "he disagree's with me on ska so he's a retard, he mafia". I guess that one post he did that ended up being a bunch of either lies or him forgetting what happened d1 that I replied to is an exception but it was ignored so nothing to be said there.
Obviously, if you're mafia or SK good play despite it being absolutely disgusting.
Btw the exact same thing happened in another game, as I'm sure rayn is aware of, as he does like reading older games. Obviously I flipped town as well.
Btw I even said in pregame that I get emotional about games really quickly and I can't do much about it, heck that's the reason for the long pauses inbetween to cool down... I even got the dramaqueen award for it (and award for best play together with VE I might add, so you can fuck off rayn) for crying out loud.
So no matter what you make of that, please for the love of god don't just sheep the guy who thought kush is a 100% certain lynch to a point that he agreed to let himself get lynched afterwards, grack is an almost 100% certain lynch and I'm an 100% certain lynch. He's either mafia/SK or not to be trusted because he's having the most awful game you could imagine. And in both cases you don't want to trust him with his reads.
Not giving any reads out myself as I honestly haven't read anything ever since the claim to not get tempted to post, so I wouldn't know. So don't just continue like nothing happened, start over from 0 and consider who defended who during all this, there's bound to be information in that.
And again, sorry about this but I really think having it this way is still the better option than having rayn "tunnel" me all throughout d2 and d3 and either have someone sheep him and not even have a chance to lynch mafia, OR just not having a chance to lynch mafia because rayn's town while I'm still alive and it's certainly better than getting lynched without claiming or lynched and claiming 5 minutes prior to deadline. Hooray for getting lynched the 2nd time ever as town in 3 years of mafia and both happened exactly the same way \o/
Ps: I picked hopeless because he's either blue or anti-town and has no chance to be a miller. Kind of a combi solution. I considered other people but like I said, as long as I'm not getting miller I'm good with whatever it returns on n1 and can then decide what to do n2.
PPS: The phrase I probably use the most often in games of mafia is something along the lines of "Sometimes people are just dense. Sometimes you have to lynch a green and shove their dead head into peoples faces to show them how dense they were to stop the ongoing bullshit. It's a sad story but let's lynch XXX [XXX being a green] and win this the next cycle". But I'm sure rayn knows that as well as he has thoroughly researched me. he's that kind of a guy. Sad thing it ended up being me this game. And while this seems like a lose for us it's at least not a 100% certain lose.
I was fully aware I'm getting myself lynched. I considered it the only possible option left to not auto-lose this on d3 with two consecutive mislynches. Lynching me might be a misslynch and a very dark situation for town to be in but not lynching either me or rayn would have brought us 2 consecutive cycles of bullshit that I considered to be deff-lose for us, the RB was pretty convenient that way (well actually if there was no RB I would have just forced mafia to shoot me but whatever). Also the reason I have refrained from posting. So that's why. [-redacted- I guess I can say that I did ask Dandel about this]
Also I actually felt really bad for Mig in case he's town prior to deadline. I did read that because it was so short before deadline but I really had to force myself to not post, sorry
On top of that, yeah I was emotional and to put this into context I've never been as angry about anyone's play before as this and I've been in games like this:
On February 25 2012 12:15 wherebugsgo wrote:
stop crying Toad, you're German and your country decimated the Jews, you have no room for sob stories
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and this:stop crying Toad, you're German and your country decimated the Jews, you have no room for sob stories
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On February 02 2013 07:55 Toadesstern wrote:
2 Nominations from LIX
1) Vivax for WTF-Award, from BC's TL Mafia LIX
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=393344¤tpage=104#2071
into http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=393344¤tpage=104#2074
into http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=393344¤tpage=105#2084
TL;DR Sup guys I'm a DT, it's D2 and I've got a red check on Gonzaw, but let's lynch the mayor (Marv) who succesfully lynched mafia d1 instead because we can just go for the big fish and Gonzaw (red check) already used his joat powers after all. After lynching Marv we should probably lynch Toad, the sheriff who ended up being sheriff with exactly as many votes as my red check Gonzaw, just comming in as second because he had 4 votes sooner. Once those two are dead we can lynch my red check and 5 other guys.
2 Nominations from LIX
1) Vivax for WTF-Award, from BC's TL Mafia LIX
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=393344¤tpage=104#2071
into http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=393344¤tpage=104#2074
into http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=393344¤tpage=105#2084
TL;DR Sup guys I'm a DT, it's D2 and I've got a red check on Gonzaw, but let's lynch the mayor (Marv) who succesfully lynched mafia d1 instead because we can just go for the big fish and Gonzaw (red check) already used his joat powers after all. After lynching Marv we should probably lynch Toad, the sheriff who ended up being sheriff with exactly as many votes as my red check Gonzaw, just comming in as second because he had 4 votes sooner. Once those two are dead we can lynch my red check and 5 other guys.
I'm 100% postive, I'd rather play with people like the above than have another game with rayn if he so happens to flip town. I can't believe how furious he made me with constantly sprouting bullshit and constantly being an arrogant dick about it and just not changing it even after having to realize that he's just plain wrong about everything he's saying like the 100% certain lynch on kush, the almost 100% certain lynch on grack and the 100% certain lynch on me, who all flipped town. I just can't believe how someone would be such a dick about it and just not at least drop the insults after that and not just at least for a second go mmmh, wait. Maybe my reads are off atm. I should probably restart this from point 0 instead of just continuing with my other reads like nothing happened
I don't mind if he's calling me a retard once or twice without anything besides it, obviously it's going to make me angry but whatever. But having it happen the entire game and like he said, there wasn't even a case about me no matter how I much I asked for them to just explain it so nothing I could respond to except for thrawns "he feels weird" ... duh thanks... and rayns "he disagree's with me on ska so he's a retard, he mafia". I guess that one post he did that ended up being a bunch of either lies or him forgetting what happened d1 that I replied to is an exception but it was ignored so nothing to be said there.
Obviously, if you're mafia or SK good play despite it being absolutely disgusting.
Btw the exact same thing happened in another game, as I'm sure rayn is aware of, as he does like reading older games. Obviously I flipped town as well.
Btw I even said in pregame that I get emotional about games really quickly and I can't do much about it, heck that's the reason for the long pauses inbetween to cool down... I even got the dramaqueen award for it (and award for best play together with VE I might add, so you can fuck off rayn) for crying out loud.
So no matter what you make of that, please for the love of god don't just sheep the guy who thought kush is a 100% certain lynch to a point that he agreed to let himself get lynched afterwards, grack is an almost 100% certain lynch and I'm an 100% certain lynch. He's either mafia/SK or not to be trusted because he's having the most awful game you could imagine. And in both cases you don't want to trust him with his reads.
Not giving any reads out myself as I honestly haven't read anything ever since the claim to not get tempted to post, so I wouldn't know. So don't just continue like nothing happened, start over from 0 and consider who defended who during all this, there's bound to be information in that.
And again, sorry about this but I really think having it this way is still the better option than having rayn "tunnel" me all throughout d2 and d3 and either have someone sheep him and not even have a chance to lynch mafia, OR just not having a chance to lynch mafia because rayn's town while I'm still alive and it's certainly better than getting lynched without claiming or lynched and claiming 5 minutes prior to deadline. Hooray for getting lynched the 2nd time ever as town in 3 years of mafia and both happened exactly the same way \o/
Ps: I picked hopeless because he's either blue or anti-town and has no chance to be a miller. Kind of a combi solution. I considered other people but like I said, as long as I'm not getting miller I'm good with whatever it returns on n1 and can then decide what to do n2.
PPS: The phrase I probably use the most often in games of mafia is something along the lines of "Sometimes people are just dense. Sometimes you have to lynch a green and shove their dead head into peoples faces to show them how dense they were to stop the ongoing bullshit. It's a sad story but let's lynch XXX [XXX being a green] and win this the next cycle". But I'm sure rayn knows that as well as he has thoroughly researched me. he's that kind of a guy. Sad thing it ended up being me this game. And while this seems like a lose for us it's at least not a 100% certain lose.
