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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
May 21 2014 08:09 GMT
#1101
Yellow is probably not an awful lynch. Not sold on being a great lynch though. I feel like he could just be bad town.
On May 21 2014 12:03 Yell0w wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 11:58 austinmcc wrote:
On May 21 2014 11:56 Yell0w wrote:
On May 21 2014 11:55 Cephiro wrote:
On May 21 2014 11:50 Holyflare wrote:
Her response is quite interesting. She does correctly analyze on scenario, that is, if I didn't have a proper read and wanted to gain more information on her. There are many others she does not think about however. What I'm most interested in, is this crucial miss: She does not at all consider a possibility where I am scum. Ding ding, alarm bells anyone?


this is the part of your case where you assume something completely wild and out of the blue cephiro that is so off tangent to the original question that it doesn't make sense and then the rest of your case is entirely based off of this


How is not considering the possibility of someone voting on you being scum completely wild? She literally ignores the possibility of me being scum voting on her, as proved by her own thought process. They were my first posts in the game and I instantly pressured/attacked her. And she didn't even think of the possibility of me being scum. Like literally, all her responses screamed that I was town to her. There is no way she could be that sure I am town by just exchanging a post or two with her by that stage.

Care to elaborate on your reasoning why it's a completely wild assumption and debunks the whole case?


The problem is there are multiple scum factions, you could both be scum and not know it.
Do you think that multiple scum factions makes cephiro's post thought here invalid?


Well the argument is that bunnies didn't think cephiro could be scum because she's scum so she knows the other scums, right? But she has no way to know that even if she's scum, so yes I think he didn't think it through.

And to answer Hapa, obviously I don't know if there are more than one scummy factions, though it's likely in my opinion and either way, neither does anyone right? So, still, bunnies had no way to know that cephiro wasn't scum, which is the whole argument.

This is the only post of his I really disliked. Quite often scum like to insert themselves between two town like this in a way that seems obvious and productive but doesn't really say anything at all
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
May 21 2014 08:17 GMT
#1102
Valenus I'm not quite seeing as mafia. Like there's a bit of seeming honesty and levity in his posting that I find a bit towny. Like I get why Hapa thinks he could be an ok lynch but he feels more like a "fun Fred" gamer instead of a "competitive Carl" gamer. It's not a real solid read but I'm looking elsewhere for D1 unless something more specific pops up.
bkqyrldp
Profile Joined January 2014
49 Posts
May 21 2014 08:24 GMT
#1103
On May 21 2014 17:17 geript wrote:
Valenus I'm not quite seeing as mafia. Like there's a bit of seeming honesty and levity in his posting that I find a bit towny. Like I get why Hapa thinks he could be an ok lynch but he feels more like a "fun Fred" gamer instead of a "competitive Carl" gamer. It's not a real solid read but I'm looking elsewhere for D1 unless something more specific pops up.

This is my perspective on him as well. His posts do not read like someone feigning contributions, just someone casually posting because he felt like. Holyflare's reason for considering him town is also the type of weak evidence that I find compelling early on.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
May 21 2014 08:26 GMT
#1104
Hey Hapa, what do you think of Marv? I decided to take a gander at his filter and his push on Xat really bugs me. His push on Austin really bugs me. Like there's nothing particularly poignant that I can put my finger on but this just doesn't in any way feel like town Marv. Like the funniness/snarkiness factor adds to it. Nothing in his filter has made me giggle whatsoever. Could you take a gander at him for me please?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
May 21 2014 08:28 GMT
#1105
On May 21 2014 17:24 bkqyrldp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 17:17 geript wrote:
Valenus I'm not quite seeing as mafia. Like there's a bit of seeming honesty and levity in his posting that I find a bit towny. Like I get why Hapa thinks he could be an ok lynch but he feels more like a "fun Fred" gamer instead of a "competitive Carl" gamer. It's not a real solid read but I'm looking elsewhere for D1 unless something more specific pops up.

This is my perspective on him as well. His posts do not read like someone feigning contributions, just someone casually posting because he felt like. Holyflare's reason for considering him town is also the type of weak evidence that I find compelling early on.

You mind telling us who you are? Like you're obviously a smurf of some kind.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
May 21 2014 08:35 GMT
#1106
Ceph looks mighty awful. Maybe it's my innate distrust of him, but I can't ever recall him going full donkey/left field like that as town before. Iirc in cell he was pretty tunnely on me for most of the game so that's not a point in his favor.
bkqyrldp
Profile Joined January 2014
49 Posts
May 21 2014 08:40 GMT
#1107
On May 21 2014 17:28 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 17:24 bkqyrldp wrote:
On May 21 2014 17:17 geript wrote:
Valenus I'm not quite seeing as mafia. Like there's a bit of seeming honesty and levity in his posting that I find a bit towny. Like I get why Hapa thinks he could be an ok lynch but he feels more like a "fun Fred" gamer instead of a "competitive Carl" gamer. It's not a real solid read but I'm looking elsewhere for D1 unless something more specific pops up.

This is my perspective on him as well. His posts do not read like someone feigning contributions, just someone casually posting because he felt like. Holyflare's reason for considering him town is also the type of weak evidence that I find compelling early on.

You mind telling us who you are? Like you're obviously a smurf of some kind.

I'm not going to, because it not only invalidates the purpose of signing up as a smurf, but it feels also feels cheap to reveal your identity based on your alignment. That is, players are more likely to do that as town than as mafia.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2014 08:44 GMT
#1108
I am totes alive guys. But so behind.
I had a good night of sleep.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
May 21 2014 08:46 GMT
#1109
Usually in Video, I can follow tambo's thought process. Here's it's more a flight of ideas and I'm not seeing a real consensus to how or why he's reading the people he is. Fool's points on him aren't bad. I'll look at his newby games later to double check but I didn't have good feels on him early. Hopefully I'll be able to explain my thought processes on both him and Marv in a more comprehensive way after I sleep.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
May 21 2014 08:47 GMT
#1110
On May 21 2014 17:40 bkqyrldp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 17:28 geript wrote:
On May 21 2014 17:24 bkqyrldp wrote:
On May 21 2014 17:17 geript wrote:
Valenus I'm not quite seeing as mafia. Like there's a bit of seeming honesty and levity in his posting that I find a bit towny. Like I get why Hapa thinks he could be an ok lynch but he feels more like a "fun Fred" gamer instead of a "competitive Carl" gamer. It's not a real solid read but I'm looking elsewhere for D1 unless something more specific pops up.

This is my perspective on him as well. His posts do not read like someone feigning contributions, just someone casually posting because he felt like. Holyflare's reason for considering him town is also the type of weak evidence that I find compelling early on.

You mind telling us who you are? Like you're obviously a smurf of some kind.

I'm not going to, because it not only invalidates the purpose of signing up as a smurf, but it feels also feels cheap to reveal your identity based on your alignment. That is, players are more likely to do that as town than as mafia.

Ok. Would you at least be willing to confirm or deny that you're Yamato?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
May 21 2014 08:49 GMT
#1111
On May 21 2014 17:44 Koshi wrote:
I am totes alive guys. But so behind.

Hey Koshi. Read Marv please. He feels really off to me. I've made a few posts about it. Also, any thoughts on who I should shoot? There are like half a million scummy people.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
May 21 2014 08:58 GMT
#1112
Also, are you still wearing said Breaking Bad pjs?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2014 09:08 GMT
#1113
On May 21 2014 17:58 geript wrote:
Also, are you still wearing said Breaking Bad pjs?

No. Working atm. Page 31 atm. I will read marv but don't see why we would lynch him D1.
But I will give a full report on marv when I am done.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 21 2014 09:27 GMT
#1114
Skim-read mode: Activated
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 21 2014 09:28 GMT
#1115
##Vote: bkqyrldp
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
bkqyrldp
Profile Joined January 2014
49 Posts
May 21 2014 09:32 GMT
#1116
So what did you skim and find suspicious?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 21 2014 09:33 GMT
#1117
On May 21 2014 18:32 bkqyrldp wrote:
So what did you skim and find suspicious?

The fact you are a smurf and the fact you characterised my answer to Steveling as suspicious, when anyone on this forum knows 100% that my answer to Steveling was in no way suspicious and I would certainly answer that way as both alignments.

It was just an answer to a question.

The reason I am now voting for you is that because this page confirms you are a smurf, and if you are a smurf, you should know better. Which means you were just bullshitting vomit reads, so you're mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 21 2014 09:36 GMT
#1118
On May 21 2014 11:34 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 11:09 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 21 2014 10:57 geript wrote:
@Snooglewoogle. I need the blessings of ABBA to shoot Marv. Please make the appropriate sacrifices.


Do you actually think Marv is scum or you just doing it cause he disagrees with you on slam?
If you think scum is Slam and you shoot marv because you think hes cockblocking the lynch on slam that would be the most asinine play ever. Shoot who you think is lock scum lets find someone else scummy. What do you think of BKQ/Velanius/layabout?

Marv I don't think would cockblock on a null read like this if he were town. More likely he'd ignore me and let me develop it. Not a 100% on that but his push on Xat early was for pretty awful reasoning. Like if Marv were town and has that "it's enough for now" line, he'd be far more willing to entertain a good outside lynch. Plus, he has done nothing to make me think he's either town or scum, which means he cares about how he comes across which is far more likely to be mafia Marv.

just a terrible post that is wrong in every facet. christ.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
May 21 2014 09:42 GMT
#1119
For the record: the analysis of how to read Slam part duex:
On April 02 2014 07:50 Alakaslam wrote:
OH LSB you are the other dude?!?!

Crap

Well so much for my reads. I townread you both.

Crap.

On April 02 2014 09:33 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +


Hmm.

Raynpelikoshi, I am willing to be day1 lynch to prove dis wrong but I would rather not.

Between Balla and LSB, who is more likely to be scum and why?

You two (Balla, LSB) incriminate each other yeah?

I can incriminate both of you if you want but I will probably fail

I am aware this is scummy

The read on Slam changed after having time to reread his filter. The read on Slam used to be: Is he having fun, if yes then town. But that's really an incomplete explanation. Slam subjectively has more fun playing mafia than he does as town. The difference is that as mafia he doesn't want to be lynched. As town, I don't think he cares. As town, he allows himself to be carefree so that he can enjoy playing. As scum, he doesn't because that's what gets him lynched. The two posts I've quoted, show off that carefree attitude. In these posts he's allowing himself to post whatever the fuck he's thinking; it's just him posting. That's town for him.
bkqyrldp
Profile Joined January 2014
49 Posts
May 21 2014 09:44 GMT
#1120
On May 21 2014 18:33 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 18:32 bkqyrldp wrote:
So what did you skim and find suspicious?

The fact you are a smurf and the fact you characterised my answer to Steveling as suspicious, when anyone on this forum knows 100% that my answer to Steveling was in no way suspicious and I would certainly answer that way as both alignments.

It was just an answer to a question.

The reason I am now voting for you is that because this page confirms you are a smurf, and if you are a smurf, you should know better. Which means you were just bullshitting vomit reads, so you're mafia.

I'm not sure what I was exactly thinking when I made that post, you will know later when I ask myself, but my guess is that it was more about you entering the thread with that type of post. Personally I'm not impressed by the rest of your posts so far, as I'm not seeing any of the pointed questions you tend to typically ask.
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