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Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
May 21 2014 03:58 GMT
#921
On May 21 2014 12:56 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 12:48 Cavalinho wrote:
We should either make Cephiro make legible posts or waste him.

I'm not reading that dogshit and I'm pretty sure he did this same kind of garbage zoning off into his own little world in Cell.


o.o

Where did this anger come from? You have a history with him or something?


I've played with him once.

And no, I'm not mad. That's just how I post.
Spectaticle
mtamburini
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada506 Posts
May 21 2014 03:58 GMT
#922
On May 21 2014 12:13 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 12:12 Holyflare wrote:
On May 21 2014 12:09 thrawn2112 wrote:
On May 21 2014 12:09 Holyflare wrote:
On May 21 2014 12:08 thrawn2112 wrote:
holyflare I need you to clear something up for me

sup


are you town?


ya

3 minutes to say 'ya'.
I don't like it.
##Unvote
##Vote: Holyflare


From the way many people have told me to read HF, hes prob town he seems disappointed and not having fun. I hear he enjoys being mafia 100x more than he is town.

mattisfoolish
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
May 21 2014 03:58 GMT
#923
On May 21 2014 12:33 Holyflare wrote:
##Foolishness Read: Yell0w

I really want to say "ask again later" cause I'm pretty sure on by day 2 we'll know for sure. Kinda one of those situations where you just need a few more data points (i.e. posts) to be sure.

He was town in one other game here. He's going to be one you'll figure out by reading him that game.

For example, I'm wagering a lot of people are going on about his posts where he votes for Odin and talks about random lynch. I don't really think this says much about his alignment and he's being transparent about it. In his newbie game he was very adamant about explaining his behavior (even when it was bizarre) so I don't think that's a problem. Also in his newbie game he did say that he was a new player and he did claim vanilla town at an odd time, so I wouldn't look too far into that if he says that his game (he already said he was new this game).

I have a problem with the fact that he's not scumhunting and not making reads. That's what he does as town. So far there's been none of that. Problem is the game just started and that could be why (which is why I said we need him to post more).

I'm not ready to vote for him, but also not opposed to it if you are. He hasn't given the town anything. I'd rather reevaluate on day 2. If he's still alive in the future then just do what I said above. Read his filter this game. Read his filter from his town game. If they look different, then lynch and don't ask questions.
We are fools (Mattchew/Foolishness)
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
May 21 2014 03:59 GMT
#924
Foolishness: Read mtamburini
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 21 2014 04:00 GMT
#925
On May 21 2014 12:58 mtamburini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 12:13 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 21 2014 12:12 Holyflare wrote:
On May 21 2014 12:09 thrawn2112 wrote:
On May 21 2014 12:09 Holyflare wrote:
On May 21 2014 12:08 thrawn2112 wrote:
holyflare I need you to clear something up for me

sup


are you town?


ya

3 minutes to say 'ya'.
I don't like it.
##Unvote
##Vote: Holyflare


From the way many people have told me to read HF, hes prob town he seems disappointed and not having fun. I hear he enjoys being mafia 100x more than he is town.



have much more fun as town
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 21 2014 04:00 GMT
#926
On May 21 2014 12:57 Cavalinho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 12:41 Steveling wrote:
On May 21 2014 12:40 mtamburini wrote:
On May 21 2014 11:48 Steveling wrote:
On May 21 2014 11:45 Holyflare wrote:
it's not trash talk i'm updating hapa on why i'm voting you because you're doing the exact same things and this game i'm town so really you are playing completely anti win-con this game (which is what you were doing last game too) and until you learn to respect that and actually play mafia then i'll say what i feel like


What should I do then?
How to be good towny?


Dislike this ALOT. You cannot be taught to be town you just are. Mafia has to try and act town.


Don't know, I guess I have a natural affinity for scum play.


It's because your scum posts are based on making other feel smart rather than making you look like an idiot.


Damn, that's true.
But how do I fix this?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
May 21 2014 04:00 GMT
#927
On May 21 2014 12:55 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 12:23 Tehpoofter wrote:
What should she have answered to be TOWN? Like i see you did that thing as mafia but if you ask a question and there are no right answers the questions are flawed. I think thats how you played this interaction. Yellow is the first one to analyse btw. And just for the record glad you're not just making one giant post and fucking off like the other games we've played. Coming out swinging I like although I don't like this post


Alright, so again. The questions weren't aimed to directly affirm her as mafia or town, but her thought process.

The first question was about if she thinks ahead or not. Whether she does or not doesn't make her mafia or town.

The second question was to see her thought process if she thought ahead (because the first question made me assured she doesn't, not too far at least.).

Her reply:

Show nested quote +
If you don't consider me as mafia, you shouldn't be voting me.

The only reason outside of you considering me as mafia for why you would vote for me is this: you want to get a read on me via my reactions to your voting on me to see if I react poorly or more town favored. This is only used if you don't have a read on me from what I've previously posted.

This can also lead to reads from other people if they begin questioning you or agreeing with you.

So again, why are you reading me as mafia?


The main point here is the interaction between the first and last statement. It can easily be seen that she thinks that I consider her mafia, which is correct.

Now, you're in a situation where a player is voting on you, asking you questions, since they think you are mafia.

1) Why would you at this point be fairly certain about that player being town, and not point out the possibility of him being scum?
2) Why is your first thought to find the reasons why you are suspected?

If I am scum in that situation, my first thought (if I don't know already) is the reason why I'm being suspected.
Even if I salvage the situation, if I'm dumb enough to make the mistake again, I will get #rekt.
Which is why

Step 1) Identify the reason you are being suspected
Step 2) Prove why that reason is invalid
Step 3) Ascertain your position by providing pro-town (or pro-town looking) content
Step 4) Mislynch townies

If I'm town and I'm being called scum, I instantly know it's because:

1) Someone is making conclusions that might be logical, but still untrue
2) Scum is pushing me for mislynch, or just trying to discredit my thread presence.

Her thoughts are much more aligned with the way a scum thinks in this situation (in my opinion).

The third question is to affirm that she isn't of the downplaying kind = she doesn't intentionally hide information to make herself look a worse player than what she is. Rather the opposite, she talks about how confident she is in her mafia-playing abilities. This makes me not believe her claims of having really thought ahead (which again is irrelevant, her response on the other hand is relevant.).

These factors combined with the rest of her play like I pointed out, make me feel strongly certain about her being mafia rather than town. If you feel like I didn't elaborate on a point enough, do say and I'll explain further.



I routinely read people as town when I'm town for thinking I did something scummy and noticing it. Especially if its something I think I do as scum more than town. This game for example in Mtamb's notes that he decided to post and break my mouse wheel he pointed out that I make jokes and am more trolly and was reading me more mafia from it (a tell he has on me in Video mafia) He clearly is trying to make a correlation between someone he knows and how they play and how they might play this game. This to me makes me think Tambo is coming from a town mindset. So I disagree that just because she reads you as town she is scum.

Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
May 21 2014 04:02 GMT
#928
On May 21 2014 13:00 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 12:57 Cavalinho wrote:
On May 21 2014 12:41 Steveling wrote:
On May 21 2014 12:40 mtamburini wrote:
On May 21 2014 11:48 Steveling wrote:
On May 21 2014 11:45 Holyflare wrote:
it's not trash talk i'm updating hapa on why i'm voting you because you're doing the exact same things and this game i'm town so really you are playing completely anti win-con this game (which is what you were doing last game too) and until you learn to respect that and actually play mafia then i'll say what i feel like


What should I do then?
How to be good towny?


Dislike this ALOT. You cannot be taught to be town you just are. Mafia has to try and act town.


Don't know, I guess I have a natural affinity for scum play.


It's because your scum posts are based on making other feel smart rather than making you look like an idiot.


Damn, that's true.
But how do I fix this?


Analyze stuff.

It's like the one thing you lack. You were in the right spot last game and you were the only one to vote scum but you didn't bother telling anyone why they were scum.

You're just kinda "meh, fuck it. Follow me and be right."
Spectaticle
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 21 2014 04:03 GMT
#929
this foolishness thing is such an easy cop out
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 21 2014 04:03 GMT
#930
but i like the cut of his jib
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
May 21 2014 04:03 GMT
#931
1) I am nowhere near tunnel mode yet, but obviously there is no reason to stop a good push after I've started it. I feel there is a lot more to be gained from her responses.

2) Those of you that are complaining that I'm contributing, do one of the following:

a) Be quiet (This was originally a much more rude sentence.)
b) Read what I wrote, if you have an issue with a certain point, bring it up and I will elaborate.
c) Provide proper content of your own.

Just because I am focusing on her doesn't mean I'm not reading on the other players. But as I mentioned, at this moment I see no reason to drop the pressure on her already, especially not just because a person or two disagrees with me or my thought process (especially those that do not point out any flaws in it.)
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
May 21 2014 04:03 GMT
#932
the only thing i remember about yellow is that I remember someone else talking about him participating in the rng discussion adn that's the extent of my yellow read.

so off I go to read filter....

Ok, so generally serious pushes for rng lynchs come from townies. He looks like ghe wants to rng lynch in a way that he genuinely believes is more "rng" than BH's method. It doesn't look like scum looking for stuff to talk about because he seems to genuinely want to do it. town read for that bit

On May 21 2014 11:44 Yell0w wrote:
So I originally thought steve was town, but his play is so anti-town I don't know what to believe anymore, why would an actual townie act that way?


this was the exact evolution of my read on steve when I last played with him so more town points.

so yeah, i'd guess that he's town

i'm not that interested in your last questions tbh.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
May 21 2014 04:05 GMT
#933
On May 21 2014 13:00 Tehpoofter wrote:
So I disagree that just because she reads you as town she is scum.


I definitely agree that she is not scum for that reason alone. It's because of this combined with many other factors I pointed out. Like, what do you think of her claim of providing reasoning for her reads when she really hadn't?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 21 2014 04:06 GMT
#934
On May 21 2014 13:03 Holyflare wrote:
but i like the cut of his jib

Why do you think me/you/marv are the forbidden ones?
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Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
May 21 2014 04:06 GMT
#935
Rofl, I just realized that Steveling is scum this game.
Spectaticle
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
May 21 2014 04:07 GMT
#936
Hey Banks... Why are you reading BlueyD as town? He had a really scummy post I saw in skimming while working. I just don't see the towniness (granted no filtering).
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 21 2014 04:09 GMT
#937
On May 21 2014 13:06 Cavalinho wrote:
Rofl, I just realized that Steveling is scum this game.


Pls no, why you say that?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 21 2014 04:09 GMT
#938
On May 21 2014 13:05 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 13:00 Tehpoofter wrote:
So I disagree that just because she reads you as town she is scum.


I definitely agree that she is not scum for that reason alone. It's because of this combined with many other factors I pointed out. Like, what do you think of her claim of providing reasoning for her reads when she really hadn't?


On May 21 2014 07:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So here's where I am at.

I don't necessarily like thrawn. Not talking isn't productive for town. Whether he's stubborn town or straight up mafia, I'd lynch him in a heartbeat.

I also want to hear more from Jamp. He seems to be focussing on the 'reads' that I said I had within the first couple of pages, and then questions someone else on what they think about my reads, yet he hasn't really said anything about what he thinks. Also, why is he focussing on my reads? Not saying mine are bad, but im a new player, one he hasn't played with. So why does it matter necessarily what I think?


Tehpoofter, steve, and WOS were the ones that I were considering first out of the ones that have talked the first couple of pages, but my reads, as I'm sure you have seen since I talked about you and thrawn, have changed since then.


she kind of did bro
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
May 21 2014 04:10 GMT
#939
##Foolishness read: Steveling
Spectaticle
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 21 2014 04:12 GMT
#940
On May 21 2014 13:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 13:03 Holyflare wrote:
but i like the cut of his jib

Why do you think me/you/marv are the forbidden ones?


meta reads? fuck knows, interested why you're on there over hapa tbh
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