On May 21 2014 12:55 Cephiro wrote:On May 21 2014 12:23 Tehpoofter wrote:What should she have answered to be TOWN? Like i see you did that thing as mafia but if you ask a question and there are no right answers the questions are flawed. I think thats how you played this interaction. Yellow is the first one to analyse btw. And just for the record glad you're not just making one giant post and fucking off like the other games we've played. Coming out swinging I like although I don't like this post
Alright, so again. The questions weren't aimed to directly affirm her as mafia or town, but her thought process.
The first question was about if she thinks ahead or not. Whether she does or not doesn't make her mafia or town.
The second question was to see her thought process if she thought ahead (because the first question made me assured she doesn't, not too far at least.).
Her reply:
If you don't consider me as mafia, you shouldn't be voting me.
The only reason outside of you considering me as mafia for why you would vote for me is this: you want to get a read on me via my reactions to your voting on me to see if I react poorly or more town favored. This is only used if you don't have a read on me from what I've previously posted.
This can also lead to reads from other people if they begin questioning you or agreeing with you.
So again, why are you reading me as mafia?
The main point here is the interaction between the first and last statement. It can easily be seen that she thinks that I consider her mafia, which is correct.
Now, you're in a situation where a player is voting on you, asking you questions, since they think you are mafia.
1) Why would you at this point be fairly certain about that player being town, and not point out the possibility of him being scum?
2) Why is your first thought to find the reasons why you are suspected?
If I am scum in that situation, my first thought (if I don't know already) is the reason why I'm being suspected.
Even if I salvage the situation, if I'm dumb enough to make the mistake again, I will get #rekt.
Which is why
Step 1) Identify the reason you are being suspected
Step 2) Prove why that reason is invalid
Step 3) Ascertain your position by providing pro-town (or pro-town looking) content
Step 4) Mislynch townies
If I'm town and I'm being called scum, I instantly know it's because:
1) Someone is making conclusions that might be logical, but still untrue
2) Scum is pushing me for mislynch, or just trying to discredit my thread presence.
Her thoughts are much more aligned with the way a scum thinks in this situation (in my opinion).
The third question is to affirm that she isn't of the downplaying kind = she doesn't intentionally hide information to make herself look a worse player than what she is. Rather the opposite, she talks about how confident she is in her mafia-playing abilities. This makes me not believe her claims of having really thought ahead (which again is irrelevant, her response on the other hand is relevant.).
These factors combined with the rest of her play like I pointed out, make me feel strongly certain about her being mafia rather than town. If you feel like I didn't elaborate on a point enough, do say and I'll explain further.
I routinely read people as town when I'm town for thinking I did something scummy and noticing it. Especially if its something I think I do as scum more than town. This game for example in Mtamb's notes that he decided to post and break my mouse wheel he pointed out that I make jokes and am more trolly and was reading me more mafia from it (a tell he has on me in Video mafia) He clearly is trying to make a correlation between someone he knows and how they play and how they might play this game. This to me makes me think Tambo is coming from a town mindset. So I disagree that just because she reads you as town she is scum.
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