Really Small Mafia

On January 10 2014 02:24 Mocsta wrote:

Its IML -- perhaps not.

Team 2: Shaggy (raynpelikoneet) and Scrappy (Artanis[XP])
A) Try the gate anyway. DESPITE THE BAD VIBES AND FEELINGS.

On January 10 2014 16:02 Holyflare wrote:
u so pretty rain

On January 10 2014 04:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Holyflare is my scumtell right now because he presumes to act like a confirmed town without having actually made any contributions to town himself. He just keeps asking for others to find clues for him.

Not to mention his first post lead to the great scoobydoo spam of 2014. His trolly attitude came off as relaxed and confident townie on the surface, but the intentions and consequences were ultimately anti-town in my eyes.

On January 10 2014 05:02 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
The consequences are the 2 pages of scoobydoo roleplaying and off-shoot trolling that resulted from the silly atmosphere which just reads null all-round to me.

The intentions were to produce this amount of fluff that we have to sift through to get reads + the added effect that he initially comes off as a relaxed/confident townie despite not having presented any unique game-related content.

+ Show Spoiler +

On January 10 2014 05:09 Derrida wrote:
^ Agreed, I am disliking this amount of fluff. We need to get back to reads. What do you guys think about Artanis playing along with the Scooby Doo scheme?

On January 10 2014 17:58 GGTeMpLaR wrote:


How is asking "what do you guys think of X doing Y?" an accusation? It's an extremely safe way to look like you're contributing to the discussion without actually putting yourself out in the open for anyone to read you or committing to any viewpoints.

On January 10 2014 18:20 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Also who/what is zizyo (or what is it a reference to)?

On January 10 2014 22:13 Derrida wrote:
Not necessarily as the person to whom the question is addressed would not know if you answered my inquiry truthfully or not.

I personally find all the extra fluff to be anti-town. It adds pages, provides things to do for people that aren't scumhunting (even if you are using it for a purpose), and it fluffs your filter up.

When I think about the context of this; HF ahs given "confirmed town" status to a specific player with only 5-6 posts and is now using that as a medium to launch into players that disagree.

On January 11 2014 22:25 Derrida wrote:
Woops, that makes four I guess Go get the pitchforks!

On January 12 2014 08:08 Giggletummy wrote:
*puts on rayn mask*

You're just voting a dude you think is going to flip green?

On January 12 2014 09:05 GGTeMpLaR wrote:


I don't like this line of reasoning because I know I'm town and I still read Artanis as town as well. He was one of the first to vote on Mocsta. I don't think you can look into his unvote off Mocsta as scummy since he never really tried to get it onto anyone else.

On January 12 2014 09:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I started writing shortly before the day post
then had to pause for information from the host.

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I have realized I have made a great error
I compared Rayn's meta, in terror
to Titanic II, where he was not town
but serial killer, I now feel down.

I will re-evaluate tomorrow
hopefully with more braincells than zero.

1) Rayn so quickly read Derrida as town (like he had perfect information and was looking for an easy pocket) and went hard onto me for disagreeing when I felt there were excellent reasons to read him as scum
2) It very much felt like Rayn's reads on Artanis (saying he was trolling and not playing the game - which was incorrect) was extremely inconsistent with his reads of HF
3) This point is speculation but it honestly feels like Rayn pressuring Giggle over his policy-vote is setting himself up to go hard on Giggle tomorrow when Mocsta flips green (which is another reason you should never policy-lynch someone you think is town Giggle)
4) And lastly, I've grown less sure of HF and I'm actually thinking that they both pocketed the shit out of me, especially with the Backho BW reference and Scooby Doo stories (which I actually thought were hilarious even though I misread HF's "clue searching encouragement" initially)

On January 12 2014 18:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So who exactly are you calling scum? And why?

On January 14 2014 06:17 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Like this for example

On January 14 2014 06:33 GGTeMpLaR wrote:


That wasn't why I said you were town. I said I was willing to make an assumption based on the veterancy of HF and yourself and your certain reads of each other but the way you've both played today has called into question the safeness of that assumption from my perspective.

If there's a shortcut I can make use of I'd like to use it. If that reads scum then w/e

On January 12 2014 12:33 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I'm going off my reads elaborated in the previous pages which currently point to Rayn as the likely scum and Artanis as likely town.

On January 13 2014 09:09 Corazon wrote:
Artanis [Xp], as a VT, ate radioactive Scooby Snax and died!

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It is now Day 2. With 5 alive, it takes 3 votes to lynch. I'm working on finding a replacement for Derrida.

On January 13 2014 10:26 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
At this point, I'm going to have to say it's between Derrida or Giggle. They both had pretty crappy reasons for voting on Mocsta, who had practically buried himself. In fact, I don't even think Derrida gave a reason, he just hammered the vote and claimed confirmed town for doing it. Meanwhile, Giggle simply claimed it was a policy lynch. I liked a lot of what Giggle contributed on D1 so that just leaves Derrida.

On January 14 2014 06:51 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I haven't once called you scum for reading me as scum (even though you haven't even said why you think I am scum).

On January 14 2014 06:15 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
So with Rayn/HF both tunneling on me, I don't care if they're veterans or not. (1)Their judgment obviously isn't good enough to clear each other as confirmed town based on the fact of how bad their read is on me, especially when they aren't even trying to address my arguments.

(2)Also, Rayn is acting as mad as someone who just had their partner get lynched who voted themselves D1. (3)This is the second time he's lost his temper (the first when I voted him over Mocsta) and acted bm-as-fuck responding with ad hominem to people's arguments and completely ignoring them.

Then again, HF ignored all of my arguments as well after I asked him to back up some of his baseless accusations. (4)I'm honestly fine with voting either of them at this point because I'd rather lose to lurker mafia than bm mafia who isn't even playing the game. (5)And even if they're town, they're bad town. I don't want to go to final 3 with either of them because they will throw if they play like they did today.

##Vote Rayn

I don't care if that makes me look scummy for flip flopping - in light of new information, my reads will change. Aside from the point about Office Space, Giggle just made the only townie post since the day started. Even if he's wrong about me, at least he's giving unique reasons for his reads.

On January 14 2014 07:24 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
You want some reasons even though you've given none on why I'm scum?

1. First actual post with reads



You sheep HF's read on Derrida that didn't even have any reasons behind it to begin with. You then vote on me for no reason aside from going hard on someone you've cleared as town without any reason.

2. Next actual real post with any reads - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440222&currentpage=11#203

You pocket HF by giving a biased argument centered around me and everyone else being responsible for shitting up the thread, and say HF isn't responsible when the first two pages of his filter are spam. HF hasn't even given a read on the game at this point (aside from saying Derrida is confirmed town), yet you know he's town.

How's that scum?

On January 14 2014 07:28 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I'll even link it so it's easier for you to find

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440222&currentpage=24#471

On January 12 2014 07:57 GGTeMpLaR wrote:

Between Rayn and Mocsta, I'm honestly more suspicious of Rayn than Mocsta at the moment mainly for these reasons-

-Rayn so quickly read Derrida as town (like he had perfect information and was looking for an easy pocket) and went hard onto me for disagreeing when I felt there were excellent reasons to read him as scum
-It very much felt like Rayn's reads on Artanis (saying he was trolling and not playing the game - which was incorrect) was extremely inconsistent with his reads of HF
-This point is speculation but it honestly feels like Rayn pressuring Giggle over his policy-vote is setting himself up to go hard on Giggle tomorrow when Mocsta flips green (which is another reason you should never policy-lynch someone you think is town Giggle)
-And lastly, I've grown less sure of HF and I'm actually thinking that they both pocketed the shit out of me, especially with the Backho BW reference and Scooby Doo stories (which I actually thought were hilarious even though I misread HF's "clue searching encouragement" initially)

So this is where I'm at

##Vote Rayn

On January 14 2014 11:28 Holyflare wrote:
He literally claimed medic on night 1

On January 14 2014 11:34 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Who was the n1 medic save out of curiosity?