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On January 09 2014 04:33 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 04:30 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 09 2014 04:25 mkfuba07 wrote:On January 09 2014 04:19 thrawn2112 wrote:On January 09 2014 04:16 mkfuba07 wrote:
It feels incredibly odd for a townie to consistently call out people for "lying" and "intentionally twisting words," but not feel reasonably sure that those people are scum. Is Corazon the only person you want to lynch? At this moment, pretty much. I keep trying to read him as a townie, but things keep jumping out at me.
Class in 5 minutes, gotta run again. Will be out of class in about 1.5 hours, then I'll be here until deadline. This part is interesting to me, can anyone tell me why it is interesting? Not really. Why don't you tell me?
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On January 09 2014 04:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 04:48 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 09 2014 04:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 09 2014 04:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:@Rayn
On January 09 2014 04:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 09 2014 04:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 09 2014 04:31 thrawn2112 wrote:On January 09 2014 04:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 09 2014 04:25 thrawn2112 wrote:
rayn you're replacing stupidity with stupidity Explain. How am i being stupid? You're policy lynching for destructive behavior that you're provoking in the first place. I don't have any problems with cora's attitude (none that affect who I want to lynch) and I don't mind kush at all. I also don't think either of them are scum. In fact singling them out for a policy lynch is realistically only going to antagonize them further. All you have to do is decide if you think kush is mafia/town. Lynch if scum. Cooperate with him if he's town. What you are doing is not even worrying about his alignment and refusing to cooperate because you think he will also refuse. This post is totally wrong. I have stated multiple times in thread why those people are no use for town even if they are town. Thay have proved it in this game. Are you saying you know cora is town? How have "Thay proved it in this game" I have literally just made a fucking page of a filter of posts that say that. What the fuck are you doing? By THIS game did you mean extractor? Because that line is fucking confusing when i think you mean this game right here right now and you know the alignment of someone you're lynching WHERE THE FUCK DO I SAY I KNOW CORAZON'S ALIGNMENT?
You said the people in question proved is this game which means you know their alignment this game.
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On January 09 2014 05:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I literally said "They have proven they are no use to town, even if they are town".
The key word here is "EVEN". Holy fucking shit, can't people read any more?
Well they can't prove this without being town, right?
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On January 09 2014 05:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 04:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 09 2014 04:31 thrawn2112 wrote:On January 09 2014 04:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 09 2014 04:25 thrawn2112 wrote:
rayn you're replacing stupidity with stupidity Explain. How am i being stupid? You're policy lynching for destructive behavior that you're provoking in the first place. I don't have any problems with cora's attitude (none that affect who I want to lynch) and I don't mind kush at all. I also don't think either of them are scum. In fact singling them out for a policy lynch is realistically only going to antagonize them further. All you have to do is decide if you think kush is mafia/town. Lynch if scum. Cooperate with him if he's town. What you are doing is not even worrying about his alignment and refusing to cooperate because you think he will also refuse. This post is totally wrong. I have stated multiple times in thread why those people are no use for town even if they are town. Thay have proved it in this game. They will not help the town win even if they are town. This is proven by their posts in this game. They have proven they can't help the town, nowhere i fucking say they are town.
For your statement to make sense it is necessary for them to be town. But yeah I don't think you would scumslip this way so you are probably just not understanding the problem. Let's stop this.
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On January 09 2014 05:46 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 09 2014 05:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
In efforts to straighten this thread out from the shitflinging contest that it is: here are reads.
Corazon - Senseless, yelling at people, calling people scum. It's difficult to formulate a decent read on him without factoring in the douchebaggery involved. Do scum act like this often? Or is this something specifically attributed to Corazon? If anyone has a scum corazon game on hand I'd like to see it.
@Cora
I want you to calm down. Give us your top scumreads with 2-3 reasons why for each. Honestly the sense is just strew apart in the thread, maybe it's there if I can get a consolidated post. You've been a bitch to me already for no reason, and I have no problem lynching you. If you're town I want the best reads you can give me.
Yamato - I think he's town. Based on extractor I don't see a reason he cant be town here, and lynching him day 1 is probably a mistake.
JAT - leaning scum. When I was arguing with rayn about the semantic thing (which, by the way, people have to stop saying shit thats confusing) he jumped right on with a few posts to bolster the argument which was clearly false. I also didn't like how he fought with bugs about the kush thing. It also looks like he misinterpreted my-artanis interaction at the beginning of the day which didn't make sense to me.
Rayn - Probably town, though Idk what rayn scum looks like. He tunnels on cora and bullshits at him which is fine (well.. w.e.). I am really hesitant about listening to his reasoning after extractor.
Thrawn - looks town, would bang.
Artanis - Idk where the hell he went after voting me for crap reasons. Tunneled onto me for similarly crap reasons. Would lynch if anyone is down.
So right now I'm looking at JAT/Artanis or a policy of cora/kush. - Read on yamato is not a read. "I can't see why he can't be town" - Read on JAT is so bullshit it probably comes out of CC's ears. That's the worst reasoning for a read i have seen in this game because every single thing is so wrong. - Read on me is not a read. Discrediting me for bullshit reasons, i would have lynched mafia on D2 if idiots didn't hammer yamato. - Read on thrawn is bullshit. - Read on Artanis is bullshit because CC did scummy stuff, then Artanis called him out for it. After that CC changed his reasoning to something else, but later on went back to the original reasoning for no reason. It's just so stupid and every other post the reasoning for Artanis being mafia changes from one thing to another. Rayn, I don't even know what to say. I know why people don't bother anymore. I think ill ask for a replacement, I just don't care if rayn is town or scum but playing with him is actually infuriating as hell when you're town.
Because of this post? Is he not allowed to disagree with you?
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On January 09 2014 05:50 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 09 2014 05:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
In efforts to straighten this thread out from the shitflinging contest that it is: here are reads.
Corazon - Senseless, yelling at people, calling people scum. It's difficult to formulate a decent read on him without factoring in the douchebaggery involved. Do scum act like this often? Or is this something specifically attributed to Corazon? If anyone has a scum corazon game on hand I'd like to see it.
@Cora
I want you to calm down. Give us your top scumreads with 2-3 reasons why for each. Honestly the sense is just strew apart in the thread, maybe it's there if I can get a consolidated post. You've been a bitch to me already for no reason, and I have no problem lynching you. If you're town I want the best reads you can give me.
Yamato - I think he's town. Based on extractor I don't see a reason he cant be town here, and lynching him day 1 is probably a mistake.
JAT - leaning scum. When I was arguing with rayn about the semantic thing (which, by the way, people have to stop saying shit thats confusing) he jumped right on with a few posts to bolster the argument which was clearly false. I also didn't like how he fought with bugs about the kush thing. It also looks like he misinterpreted my-artanis interaction at the beginning of the day which didn't make sense to me.
Rayn - Probably town, though Idk what rayn scum looks like. He tunnels on cora and bullshits at him which is fine (well.. w.e.). I am really hesitant about listening to his reasoning after extractor.
Thrawn - looks town, would bang.
Artanis - Idk where the hell he went after voting me for crap reasons. Tunneled onto me for similarly crap reasons. Would lynch if anyone is down.
So right now I'm looking at JAT/Artanis or a policy of cora/kush. - Read on yamato is not a read. "I can't see why he can't be town" - Read on JAT is so bullshit it probably comes out of CC's ears. That's the worst reasoning for a read i have seen in this game because every single thing is so wrong. - Read on me is not a read. Discrediting me for bullshit reasons, i would have lynched mafia on D2 if idiots didn't hammer yamato. - Read on thrawn is bullshit. - Read on Artanis is bullshit because CC did scummy stuff, then Artanis called him out for it. After that CC changed his reasoning to something else, but later on went back to the original reasoning for no reason. It's just so stupid and every other post the reasoning for Artanis being mafia changes from one thing to another. Suppose we lynched Cheese. He flips town. What happens then?
Then his reads are still bullshit and we can start all over again.
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On January 09 2014 05:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
wtf??
That's not how this game works. You can't just fucking lynch someone and then not accept that you messed up.
Hm? Of course we messed up if we lynch him and he is town. That doesn't make what I said untrue.
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On January 09 2014 05:56 wherebugsgo wrote:like seriously, I'm tempted to try to get you lynched for saying that, because that's literally what scum want to do. for clarity I'm talking about this post: Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 05:52 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 05:50 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 09 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 09 2014 05:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
In efforts to straighten this thread out from the shitflinging contest that it is: here are reads.
Corazon - Senseless, yelling at people, calling people scum. It's difficult to formulate a decent read on him without factoring in the douchebaggery involved. Do scum act like this often? Or is this something specifically attributed to Corazon? If anyone has a scum corazon game on hand I'd like to see it.
@Cora
I want you to calm down. Give us your top scumreads with 2-3 reasons why for each. Honestly the sense is just strew apart in the thread, maybe it's there if I can get a consolidated post. You've been a bitch to me already for no reason, and I have no problem lynching you. If you're town I want the best reads you can give me.
Yamato - I think he's town. Based on extractor I don't see a reason he cant be town here, and lynching him day 1 is probably a mistake.
JAT - leaning scum. When I was arguing with rayn about the semantic thing (which, by the way, people have to stop saying shit thats confusing) he jumped right on with a few posts to bolster the argument which was clearly false. I also didn't like how he fought with bugs about the kush thing. It also looks like he misinterpreted my-artanis interaction at the beginning of the day which didn't make sense to me.
Rayn - Probably town, though Idk what rayn scum looks like. He tunnels on cora and bullshits at him which is fine (well.. w.e.). I am really hesitant about listening to his reasoning after extractor.
Thrawn - looks town, would bang.
Artanis - Idk where the hell he went after voting me for crap reasons. Tunneled onto me for similarly crap reasons. Would lynch if anyone is down.
So right now I'm looking at JAT/Artanis or a policy of cora/kush. - Read on yamato is not a read. "I can't see why he can't be town" - Read on JAT is so bullshit it probably comes out of CC's ears. That's the worst reasoning for a read i have seen in this game because every single thing is so wrong. - Read on me is not a read. Discrediting me for bullshit reasons, i would have lynched mafia on D2 if idiots didn't hammer yamato. - Read on thrawn is bullshit. - Read on Artanis is bullshit because CC did scummy stuff, then Artanis called him out for it. After that CC changed his reasoning to something else, but later on went back to the original reasoning for no reason. It's just so stupid and every other post the reasoning for Artanis being mafia changes from one thing to another. Suppose we lynched Cheese. He flips town. What happens then? Then his reads are still bullshit and we can start all over again. Someone's reads being bad or badly reasoned are not enough to call them scum and lynch them unless they have a history of being good AND if the reasoning is clearly bad despite there being good evidence for them to have good reads in the same situation. There are plenty of townies who don't often catch that many scum who often don't get lynched despite being called bad every game, because you don't just lynch someone for having bad reads. You also don't nonchalantly say that it's their fault for getting lynched after you fuck up and lynch them for the wrong reasons, cause it's the voters' faults.
You asked a question and I answered it. If we lynched CC right now pretty much the only thing we would learn is his alignment.
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On January 09 2014 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyways dick move analysis says CC is town.
##unvote
I hate when people confirm themselves town this way.
Unfortunately I have to agree here.
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On January 09 2014 05:56 wherebugsgo wrote:like seriously, I'm tempted to try to get you lynched for saying that, because that's literally what scum want to do. for clarity I'm talking about this post: Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 05:52 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 05:50 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 09 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 09 2014 05:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
In efforts to straighten this thread out from the shitflinging contest that it is: here are reads.
Corazon - Senseless, yelling at people, calling people scum. It's difficult to formulate a decent read on him without factoring in the douchebaggery involved. Do scum act like this often? Or is this something specifically attributed to Corazon? If anyone has a scum corazon game on hand I'd like to see it.
@Cora
I want you to calm down. Give us your top scumreads with 2-3 reasons why for each. Honestly the sense is just strew apart in the thread, maybe it's there if I can get a consolidated post. You've been a bitch to me already for no reason, and I have no problem lynching you. If you're town I want the best reads you can give me.
Yamato - I think he's town. Based on extractor I don't see a reason he cant be town here, and lynching him day 1 is probably a mistake.
JAT - leaning scum. When I was arguing with rayn about the semantic thing (which, by the way, people have to stop saying shit thats confusing) he jumped right on with a few posts to bolster the argument which was clearly false. I also didn't like how he fought with bugs about the kush thing. It also looks like he misinterpreted my-artanis interaction at the beginning of the day which didn't make sense to me.
Rayn - Probably town, though Idk what rayn scum looks like. He tunnels on cora and bullshits at him which is fine (well.. w.e.). I am really hesitant about listening to his reasoning after extractor.
Thrawn - looks town, would bang.
Artanis - Idk where the hell he went after voting me for crap reasons. Tunneled onto me for similarly crap reasons. Would lynch if anyone is down.
So right now I'm looking at JAT/Artanis or a policy of cora/kush. - Read on yamato is not a read. "I can't see why he can't be town" - Read on JAT is so bullshit it probably comes out of CC's ears. That's the worst reasoning for a read i have seen in this game because every single thing is so wrong. - Read on me is not a read. Discrediting me for bullshit reasons, i would have lynched mafia on D2 if idiots didn't hammer yamato. - Read on thrawn is bullshit. - Read on Artanis is bullshit because CC did scummy stuff, then Artanis called him out for it. After that CC changed his reasoning to something else, but later on went back to the original reasoning for no reason. It's just so stupid and every other post the reasoning for Artanis being mafia changes from one thing to another. Suppose we lynched Cheese. He flips town. What happens then? Then his reads are still bullshit and we can start all over again. Someone's reads being bad or badly reasoned are not enough to call them scum and lynch them unless they have a history of being good AND if the reasoning is clearly bad despite there being good evidence for them to have good reads in the same situation. There are plenty of townies who don't often catch that many scum who often don't get lynched despite being called bad every game, because you don't just lynch someone for having bad reads. You also don't nonchalantly say that it's their fault for getting lynched after you fuck up and lynch them for the wrong reasons, cause it's the voters' faults.
It is the voters fault and especially also the lynched persons fault. What does this have to do with what I said?
Do you think CCs reads are good?
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On January 09 2014 06:04 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 05:59 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 05:56 wherebugsgo wrote:like seriously, I'm tempted to try to get you lynched for saying that, because that's literally what scum want to do. for clarity I'm talking about this post: On January 09 2014 05:52 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 05:50 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 09 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 09 2014 05:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
In efforts to straighten this thread out from the shitflinging contest that it is: here are reads.
Corazon - Senseless, yelling at people, calling people scum. It's difficult to formulate a decent read on him without factoring in the douchebaggery involved. Do scum act like this often? Or is this something specifically attributed to Corazon? If anyone has a scum corazon game on hand I'd like to see it.
@Cora
I want you to calm down. Give us your top scumreads with 2-3 reasons why for each. Honestly the sense is just strew apart in the thread, maybe it's there if I can get a consolidated post. You've been a bitch to me already for no reason, and I have no problem lynching you. If you're town I want the best reads you can give me.
Yamato - I think he's town. Based on extractor I don't see a reason he cant be town here, and lynching him day 1 is probably a mistake.
JAT - leaning scum. When I was arguing with rayn about the semantic thing (which, by the way, people have to stop saying shit thats confusing) he jumped right on with a few posts to bolster the argument which was clearly false. I also didn't like how he fought with bugs about the kush thing. It also looks like he misinterpreted my-artanis interaction at the beginning of the day which didn't make sense to me.
Rayn - Probably town, though Idk what rayn scum looks like. He tunnels on cora and bullshits at him which is fine (well.. w.e.). I am really hesitant about listening to his reasoning after extractor.
Thrawn - looks town, would bang.
Artanis - Idk where the hell he went after voting me for crap reasons. Tunneled onto me for similarly crap reasons. Would lynch if anyone is down.
So right now I'm looking at JAT/Artanis or a policy of cora/kush. - Read on yamato is not a read. "I can't see why he can't be town" - Read on JAT is so bullshit it probably comes out of CC's ears. That's the worst reasoning for a read i have seen in this game because every single thing is so wrong. - Read on me is not a read. Discrediting me for bullshit reasons, i would have lynched mafia on D2 if idiots didn't hammer yamato. - Read on thrawn is bullshit. - Read on Artanis is bullshit because CC did scummy stuff, then Artanis called him out for it. After that CC changed his reasoning to something else, but later on went back to the original reasoning for no reason. It's just so stupid and every other post the reasoning for Artanis being mafia changes from one thing to another. Suppose we lynched Cheese. He flips town. What happens then? Then his reads are still bullshit and we can start all over again. Someone's reads being bad or badly reasoned are not enough to call them scum and lynch them unless they have a history of being good AND if the reasoning is clearly bad despite there being good evidence for them to have good reads in the same situation. There are plenty of townies who don't often catch that many scum who often don't get lynched despite being called bad every game, because you don't just lynch someone for having bad reads. You also don't nonchalantly say that it's their fault for getting lynched after you fuck up and lynch them for the wrong reasons, cause it's the voters' faults. You asked a question and I answered it. If we lynched CC right now pretty much the only thing we would learn is his alignment. EXACTLY I'm trying to avoid frothing at the mouth at rayn's vote on CC for precisely this fucking reason. We don't achieve anything by lynching CC now, the vote is fucking wasted because we spent all day pressuring TWO OTHER PLAYERS. How do you people take so long to fucking understand this?? I've been saying we need to consolidate for over 12 hours now. The town has gone to shit because of the few players we have they are completely unwilling to listen and cooperate. Instead we have a shitfest like every other minute. Killing Corazon will probably rid ourselves of a significant amount of the shitposting, given that he's managed to piss off myself, rayn, WoS, and basically everyone else he's talked to. Killing kush would probably accomplish a similar thing but he's actually easier to ignore and harder to read.
I don't understand you. You posted the question - I answered exactly the way you think yourself and I am scummy for it.
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On January 09 2014 05:56 wherebugsgo wrote:like seriously, I'm tempted to try to get you lynched for saying that, because that's literally what scum want to do. for clarity I'm talking about this post: Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 05:52 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 05:50 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 09 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 09 2014 05:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
In efforts to straighten this thread out from the shitflinging contest that it is: here are reads.
Corazon - Senseless, yelling at people, calling people scum. It's difficult to formulate a decent read on him without factoring in the douchebaggery involved. Do scum act like this often? Or is this something specifically attributed to Corazon? If anyone has a scum corazon game on hand I'd like to see it.
@Cora
I want you to calm down. Give us your top scumreads with 2-3 reasons why for each. Honestly the sense is just strew apart in the thread, maybe it's there if I can get a consolidated post. You've been a bitch to me already for no reason, and I have no problem lynching you. If you're town I want the best reads you can give me.
Yamato - I think he's town. Based on extractor I don't see a reason he cant be town here, and lynching him day 1 is probably a mistake.
JAT - leaning scum. When I was arguing with rayn about the semantic thing (which, by the way, people have to stop saying shit thats confusing) he jumped right on with a few posts to bolster the argument which was clearly false. I also didn't like how he fought with bugs about the kush thing. It also looks like he misinterpreted my-artanis interaction at the beginning of the day which didn't make sense to me.
Rayn - Probably town, though Idk what rayn scum looks like. He tunnels on cora and bullshits at him which is fine (well.. w.e.). I am really hesitant about listening to his reasoning after extractor.
Thrawn - looks town, would bang.
Artanis - Idk where the hell he went after voting me for crap reasons. Tunneled onto me for similarly crap reasons. Would lynch if anyone is down.
So right now I'm looking at JAT/Artanis or a policy of cora/kush. - Read on yamato is not a read. "I can't see why he can't be town" - Read on JAT is so bullshit it probably comes out of CC's ears. That's the worst reasoning for a read i have seen in this game because every single thing is so wrong. - Read on me is not a read. Discrediting me for bullshit reasons, i would have lynched mafia on D2 if idiots didn't hammer yamato. - Read on thrawn is bullshit. - Read on Artanis is bullshit because CC did scummy stuff, then Artanis called him out for it. After that CC changed his reasoning to something else, but later on went back to the original reasoning for no reason. It's just so stupid and every other post the reasoning for Artanis being mafia changes from one thing to another. Suppose we lynched Cheese. He flips town. What happens then? Then his reads are still bullshit and we can start all over again.
On January 09 2014 06:18 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 06:07 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 06:04 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 09 2014 05:59 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 05:56 wherebugsgo wrote:like seriously, I'm tempted to try to get you lynched for saying that, because that's literally what scum want to do. for clarity I'm talking about this post: On January 09 2014 05:52 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 05:50 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 09 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 09 2014 05:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
In efforts to straighten this thread out from the shitflinging contest that it is: here are reads.
Corazon - Senseless, yelling at people, calling people scum. It's difficult to formulate a decent read on him without factoring in the douchebaggery involved. Do scum act like this often? Or is this something specifically attributed to Corazon? If anyone has a scum corazon game on hand I'd like to see it.
@Cora
I want you to calm down. Give us your top scumreads with 2-3 reasons why for each. Honestly the sense is just strew apart in the thread, maybe it's there if I can get a consolidated post. You've been a bitch to me already for no reason, and I have no problem lynching you. If you're town I want the best reads you can give me.
Yamato - I think he's town. Based on extractor I don't see a reason he cant be town here, and lynching him day 1 is probably a mistake.
JAT - leaning scum. When I was arguing with rayn about the semantic thing (which, by the way, people have to stop saying shit thats confusing) he jumped right on with a few posts to bolster the argument which was clearly false. I also didn't like how he fought with bugs about the kush thing. It also looks like he misinterpreted my-artanis interaction at the beginning of the day which didn't make sense to me.
Rayn - Probably town, though Idk what rayn scum looks like. He tunnels on cora and bullshits at him which is fine (well.. w.e.). I am really hesitant about listening to his reasoning after extractor.
Thrawn - looks town, would bang.
Artanis - Idk where the hell he went after voting me for crap reasons. Tunneled onto me for similarly crap reasons. Would lynch if anyone is down.
So right now I'm looking at JAT/Artanis or a policy of cora/kush. - Read on yamato is not a read. "I can't see why he can't be town" - Read on JAT is so bullshit it probably comes out of CC's ears. That's the worst reasoning for a read i have seen in this game because every single thing is so wrong. - Read on me is not a read. Discrediting me for bullshit reasons, i would have lynched mafia on D2 if idiots didn't hammer yamato. - Read on thrawn is bullshit. - Read on Artanis is bullshit because CC did scummy stuff, then Artanis called him out for it. After that CC changed his reasoning to something else, but later on went back to the original reasoning for no reason. It's just so stupid and every other post the reasoning for Artanis being mafia changes from one thing to another. Suppose we lynched Cheese. He flips town. What happens then? Then his reads are still bullshit and we can start all over again. Someone's reads being bad or badly reasoned are not enough to call them scum and lynch them unless they have a history of being good AND if the reasoning is clearly bad despite there being good evidence for them to have good reads in the same situation. There are plenty of townies who don't often catch that many scum who often don't get lynched despite being called bad every game, because you don't just lynch someone for having bad reads. You also don't nonchalantly say that it's their fault for getting lynched after you fuck up and lynch them for the wrong reasons, cause it's the voters' faults. You asked a question and I answered it. If we lynched CC right now pretty much the only thing we would learn is his alignment. EXACTLY I'm trying to avoid frothing at the mouth at rayn's vote on CC for precisely this fucking reason. We don't achieve anything by lynching CC now, the vote is fucking wasted because we spent all day pressuring TWO OTHER PLAYERS. How do you people take so long to fucking understand this?? I've been saying we need to consolidate for over 12 hours now. The town has gone to shit because of the few players we have they are completely unwilling to listen and cooperate. Instead we have a shitfest like every other minute. Killing Corazon will probably rid ourselves of a significant amount of the shitposting, given that he's managed to piss off myself, rayn, WoS, and basically everyone else he's talked to. Killing kush would probably accomplish a similar thing but he's actually easier to ignore and harder to read. I don't understand you. You posted the question - I answered exactly the way you think yourself and I am scummy for it. uh what I didn't call you scummy. Your self fixation is starting to bother me a bit.
What the hell man...
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On January 09 2014 06:25 kushm4sta wrote:
wos why are you mentioning me in every post?
##vote wos
again
My guess would be that he wants to lynch you.
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On January 09 2014 06:27 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 06:22 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 05:56 wherebugsgo wrote:like seriously, I'm tempted to try to get you lynched for saying that, because that's literally what scum want to do. for clarity I'm talking about this post: On January 09 2014 05:52 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 05:50 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 09 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 09 2014 05:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
In efforts to straighten this thread out from the shitflinging contest that it is: here are reads.
Corazon - Senseless, yelling at people, calling people scum. It's difficult to formulate a decent read on him without factoring in the douchebaggery involved. Do scum act like this often? Or is this something specifically attributed to Corazon? If anyone has a scum corazon game on hand I'd like to see it.
@Cora
I want you to calm down. Give us your top scumreads with 2-3 reasons why for each. Honestly the sense is just strew apart in the thread, maybe it's there if I can get a consolidated post. You've been a bitch to me already for no reason, and I have no problem lynching you. If you're town I want the best reads you can give me.
Yamato - I think he's town. Based on extractor I don't see a reason he cant be town here, and lynching him day 1 is probably a mistake.
JAT - leaning scum. When I was arguing with rayn about the semantic thing (which, by the way, people have to stop saying shit thats confusing) he jumped right on with a few posts to bolster the argument which was clearly false. I also didn't like how he fought with bugs about the kush thing. It also looks like he misinterpreted my-artanis interaction at the beginning of the day which didn't make sense to me.
Rayn - Probably town, though Idk what rayn scum looks like. He tunnels on cora and bullshits at him which is fine (well.. w.e.). I am really hesitant about listening to his reasoning after extractor.
Thrawn - looks town, would bang.
Artanis - Idk where the hell he went after voting me for crap reasons. Tunneled onto me for similarly crap reasons. Would lynch if anyone is down.
So right now I'm looking at JAT/Artanis or a policy of cora/kush. - Read on yamato is not a read. "I can't see why he can't be town" - Read on JAT is so bullshit it probably comes out of CC's ears. That's the worst reasoning for a read i have seen in this game because every single thing is so wrong. - Read on me is not a read. Discrediting me for bullshit reasons, i would have lynched mafia on D2 if idiots didn't hammer yamato. - Read on thrawn is bullshit. - Read on Artanis is bullshit because CC did scummy stuff, then Artanis called him out for it. After that CC changed his reasoning to something else, but later on went back to the original reasoning for no reason. It's just so stupid and every other post the reasoning for Artanis being mafia changes from one thing to another. Suppose we lynched Cheese. He flips town. What happens then? Then his reads are still bullshit and we can start all over again. On January 09 2014 06:18 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 09 2014 06:07 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 06:04 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 09 2014 05:59 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 05:56 wherebugsgo wrote:like seriously, I'm tempted to try to get you lynched for saying that, because that's literally what scum want to do. for clarity I'm talking about this post: On January 09 2014 05:52 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 05:50 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 09 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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- Read on yamato is not a read. "I can't see why he can't be town"
- Read on JAT is so bullshit it probably comes out of CC's ears. That's the worst reasoning for a read i have seen in this game because every single thing is so wrong.
- Read on me is not a read. Discrediting me for bullshit reasons, i would have lynched mafia on D2 if idiots didn't hammer yamato.
- Read on thrawn is bullshit.
- Read on Artanis is bullshit because CC did scummy stuff, then Artanis called him out for it. After that CC changed his reasoning to something else, but later on went back to the original reasoning for no reason. It's just so stupid and every other post the reasoning for Artanis being mafia changes from one thing to another. Suppose we lynched Cheese. He flips town. What happens then? Then his reads are still bullshit and we can start all over again. Someone's reads being bad or badly reasoned are not enough to call them scum and lynch them unless they have a history of being good AND if the reasoning is clearly bad despite there being good evidence for them to have good reads in the same situation. There are plenty of townies who don't often catch that many scum who often don't get lynched despite being called bad every game, because you don't just lynch someone for having bad reads. You also don't nonchalantly say that it's their fault for getting lynched after you fuck up and lynch them for the wrong reasons, cause it's the voters' faults. You asked a question and I answered it. If we lynched CC right now pretty much the only thing we would learn is his alignment. EXACTLY I'm trying to avoid frothing at the mouth at rayn's vote on CC for precisely this fucking reason. We don't achieve anything by lynching CC now, the vote is fucking wasted because we spent all day pressuring TWO OTHER PLAYERS. How do you people take so long to fucking understand this?? I've been saying we need to consolidate for over 12 hours now. The town has gone to shit because of the few players we have they are completely unwilling to listen and cooperate. Instead we have a shitfest like every other minute. Killing Corazon will probably rid ourselves of a significant amount of the shitposting, given that he's managed to piss off myself, rayn, WoS, and basically everyone else he's talked to. Killing kush would probably accomplish a similar thing but he's actually easier to ignore and harder to read. I don't understand you. You posted the question - I answered exactly the way you think yourself and I am scummy for it. uh what I didn't call you scummy. Your self fixation is starting to bother me a bit. What the hell man... I should have been clearer. I'd ordinarily call you scummy, but I was merely tempted because I think you just legitimately don't know better.
What exactly don't I know better? You aren't making any sense.
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On January 09 2014 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +It's clear he's not going to contribute, as he's said nothing of original value despite showing in past games that he has the capability and despite being around practically all the time. Basically this, and yes, i actually think Corazon is mafia, so i am not policy lynching here.
Exactly. In my opinion this would not be a policy lynch. Cora just disappeared or accused other people of lying the whole time when he was under fire. He didn't argue with reasoning (and I would expect him to do so at least partly as town) he just ignored peoples questions.
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On January 09 2014 06:37 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 06:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 09 2014 06:26 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 09 2014 06:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
I don't feel nearly as good about lynching Cora for policy reasons than i do kush, so at the very least I'd like to try and come to terms with it if I'll be switching my vote or even better, actually determine if he is scum. (yeah I get that the shitposting would be toned down a little but again, knowing he's actually attempting to contribute and post, despite enraging so many of us makes it harder for me. By comparison kush manages to enrage me by barely posting/what little posting he does.)
What it comes down to for me is mainly his behaviour here. The weird tunneling and nitpicking of one particular thing and not letting it go, the almost intentional baiting/stupidity/lying...? If this is intentional then Cora is scum without a doubt. Like I said earlier somewhere though would a town Cora have gotten angrier? Shit things up even harder? Is he picking these fights on purpose and/or remaining...calmer and more measured than i would expect because of recent attempts to tone down his behaviour? I'm not super confident on either side of the lynch, which is sad, but the lynch gives us more to work on than anything else. Supposing he is town, giving Cora time is probably not going to benefit us at all. In fact, the sooner we kill him probably the better at least for town atmosphere regardless of what alignment he is. on the other hand, giving yamato a day will almost certainly help us read his alignment better, and yamato isn't actively destructive to town. He at worst is about as bad as a scummy lurker-being hard to lynch through subpar activity as opposed to being destructive. And this is all, granted, from what I understand and have witnessed of his play as scum. As town I know he has the potential to be contributory, so assuming he can get over his demoralization he can definitely be an asset. If at the end of night and 12-24 hours into tomorrow he still continues his current trend we can just kill him then. 36 hours is a long time for things to happen, so many things can change by then. Alright well this convinces me of Cora over yamato because you are certainly correct in giving yamato time is a wiser choice than giving Cora time, but what of kush? What does giving him time accomplish? (And again, to a lesser extent gumshoe at some point) kush is like this literally every game regardless of his alignment. No one has bothered to provide opinions on kush aside from flaming him, whereas almost everyone in the game has commented on Cora at some point. Regardless of how he flips this gives us something to work with. In addition, I would say that Corazon has been around more often and actually been more detrimental than kush has. As for gumshoe at this point I don't even know if the mods will let him live. You can't read a player when they haven't bothered to play the game at all. Lynching them is worse than a coin flip. Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 06:31 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 06:27 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 09 2014 06:22 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 05:56 wherebugsgo wrote:like seriously, I'm tempted to try to get you lynched for saying that, because that's literally what scum want to do. for clarity I'm talking about this post: On January 09 2014 05:52 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 05:50 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 09 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 09 2014 05:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
In efforts to straighten this thread out from the shitflinging contest that it is: here are reads.
Corazon - Senseless, yelling at people, calling people scum. It's difficult to formulate a decent read on him without factoring in the douchebaggery involved. Do scum act like this often? Or is this something specifically attributed to Corazon? If anyone has a scum corazon game on hand I'd like to see it.
@Cora
I want you to calm down. Give us your top scumreads with 2-3 reasons why for each. Honestly the sense is just strew apart in the thread, maybe it's there if I can get a consolidated post. You've been a bitch to me already for no reason, and I have no problem lynching you. If you're town I want the best reads you can give me.
Yamato - I think he's town. Based on extractor I don't see a reason he cant be town here, and lynching him day 1 is probably a mistake.
JAT - leaning scum. When I was arguing with rayn about the semantic thing (which, by the way, people have to stop saying shit thats confusing) he jumped right on with a few posts to bolster the argument which was clearly false. I also didn't like how he fought with bugs about the kush thing. It also looks like he misinterpreted my-artanis interaction at the beginning of the day which didn't make sense to me.
Rayn - Probably town, though Idk what rayn scum looks like. He tunnels on cora and bullshits at him which is fine (well.. w.e.). I am really hesitant about listening to his reasoning after extractor.
Thrawn - looks town, would bang.
Artanis - Idk where the hell he went after voting me for crap reasons. Tunneled onto me for similarly crap reasons. Would lynch if anyone is down.
So right now I'm looking at JAT/Artanis or a policy of cora/kush. - Read on yamato is not a read. "I can't see why he can't be town" - Read on JAT is so bullshit it probably comes out of CC's ears. That's the worst reasoning for a read i have seen in this game because every single thing is so wrong. - Read on me is not a read. Discrediting me for bullshit reasons, i would have lynched mafia on D2 if idiots didn't hammer yamato. - Read on thrawn is bullshit. - Read on Artanis is bullshit because CC did scummy stuff, then Artanis called him out for it. After that CC changed his reasoning to something else, but later on went back to the original reasoning for no reason. It's just so stupid and every other post the reasoning for Artanis being mafia changes from one thing to another. Suppose we lynched Cheese. He flips town. What happens then? Then his reads are still bullshit and we can start all over again. On January 09 2014 06:18 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 09 2014 06:07 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 06:04 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 09 2014 05:59 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 05:56 wherebugsgo wrote:like seriously, I'm tempted to try to get you lynched for saying that, because that's literally what scum want to do. for clarity I'm talking about this post: On January 09 2014 05:52 justanothertownie wrote:
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Then his reads are still bullshit and we can start all over again. Someone's reads being bad or badly reasoned are not enough to call them scum and lynch them unless they have a history of being good AND if the reasoning is clearly bad despite there being good evidence for them to have good reads in the same situation. There are plenty of townies who don't often catch that many scum who often don't get lynched despite being called bad every game, because you don't just lynch someone for having bad reads. You also don't nonchalantly say that it's their fault for getting lynched after you fuck up and lynch them for the wrong reasons, cause it's the voters' faults. You asked a question and I answered it. If we lynched CC right now pretty much the only thing we would learn is his alignment. EXACTLY I'm trying to avoid frothing at the mouth at rayn's vote on CC for precisely this fucking reason. We don't achieve anything by lynching CC now, the vote is fucking wasted because we spent all day pressuring TWO OTHER PLAYERS. How do you people take so long to fucking understand this?? I've been saying we need to consolidate for over 12 hours now. The town has gone to shit because of the few players we have they are completely unwilling to listen and cooperate. Instead we have a shitfest like every other minute. Killing Corazon will probably rid ourselves of a significant amount of the shitposting, given that he's managed to piss off myself, rayn, WoS, and basically everyone else he's talked to. Killing kush would probably accomplish a similar thing but he's actually easier to ignore and harder to read. I don't understand you. You posted the question - I answered exactly the way you think yourself and I am scummy for it. uh what I didn't call you scummy. Your self fixation is starting to bother me a bit. What the hell man... I should have been clearer. I'd ordinarily call you scummy, but I was merely tempted because I think you just legitimately don't know better. What exactly don't I know better? You aren't making any sense. Okay, let me be blunt. Your play so far has led me to label you "dumb town". There are lots of things you've said that have led me to think you are town, but it's more because very few scum would be so careless as to say things so blatantly...well, scummy. If I had determined that you had that attitude based on an inference, e.g. reaction to a flip or something like that, rather than something you just came out and said, I'd be more likely to label you scum than bad.
That doesn't aswer my question at all. You can call me dumb how many times you want I don't care about that. I want you to tell me what is scummy about that post.
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On January 09 2014 06:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I'd have kush.
How come? Because you think you would be able to read him?
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On January 09 2014 07:05 Corazon wrote:
I don't care anymore. Rayn has browbeaten me into submission. This is my last post. GG
wat
This is so bad. If you are town at least give us all your reads before you get lynched.
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Depends. If Cora wasn't Cora I would declare that pretty much a scumclaim, yes.
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