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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 07:05 GMT
#265
Nono thrawn, fuba's argument makes perfect sense.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 07:36 GMT
#270
On January 07 2014 16:31 yamato77 wrote:
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On January 07 2014 16:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 07 2014 15:56 yamato77 wrote:
On January 07 2014 15:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No fuck.. Both of you think i am scum (or accuse me..) because you donä't know if i am scum or town?
wtf is that shit logic?

I said I agree that I should know your alignment better by now and pointed out posts where I don't really understand your reasoning. It's worrying, not a declaration of a certain read.

I have a town read on gumshoe, i don't see why saying that makes me more likely to be scum.

I asked WoS about his "emotionless opening" because last time i played with him when he was town he raged because he wanted to be mafia, and i wanted to know what's his reasoning for opening the game differently this time.

By saying what i did about thrawn i wanted to make him uncomfortable in case he is scum, and i also promised to have a clear read on him later on on D1 which should help you guys figure out my alignment.

So what's wrong with those things?

This discussion is not meaningful.

It is meaningful to me because you are saying some of my posts worry you and therefore you don't have a town read on me. You are not straight out calling me mafia, but you imply so. When i ask you to clarify you say i posted useless shit and that i am too cavalier. When i ask you how does that make me any alignment you don't have an answer. When i clarify my posts that bothered you you call the conversation meaningless.

What exactly were you trying to achieve with your first post? Because to me it looks like there was no purpose as you think the discussion is meaningless as you just said.

Why are you making useless posts?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 07:38 GMT
#272
So are you saying you think i am town or what?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 07:45 GMT
#274
There are couple of things i like about WoS.
This post:
On January 07 2014 12:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On January 07 2014 12:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah that's what at least (unfortunately) gumshoe does as town, he did the same thing in Extractor trick mafia start aswell. Dunno why Artanis went with it - that's slighty suspicious.

I think I'm with you on gumshoe being town btw---the accusation of CC trying to pit him and Artanis against each other seems like a really silly point to force as scum.

On January 07 2014 12:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also the bolded part in this post come off as incredibly townie to me.
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On January 07 2014 12:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Not really WoS, no.

This could be one of those things I feel like I remember you did in a recent scumgame but I'm not really sure why I think that. Essentially boils down to the 'coaching' thing---really easy to do as scum to make yourself look good. I think you may have done it in PYP though as well so I dunno. Just didn't like the post. Carry on.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 07:45 GMT
#275
EBWOP (formatting):
There are couple of things i like about WoS.
This post:
On January 07 2014 12:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On January 07 2014 12:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah that's what at least (unfortunately) gumshoe does as town, he did the same thing in Extractor trick mafia start aswell. Dunno why Artanis went with it - that's slighty suspicious.

I think I'm with you on gumshoe being town btw---the accusation of CC trying to pit him and Artanis against each other seems like a really silly point to force as scum.

Also the bolded part in this post come off as incredibly townie to me.
On January 07 2014 12:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On January 07 2014 12:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Not really WoS, no.

This could be one of those things I feel like I remember you did in a recent scumgame but I'm not really sure why I think that. Essentially boils down to the 'coaching' thing---really easy to do as scum to make yourself look good. I think you may have done it in PYP though as well so I dunno. Just didn't like the post. Carry on.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 07:58 GMT
#277
Cheesydude and Artanis worry me from the people posting the most atm.

CC uses like ~15 posts in interacting with Artanis and after that gives a read on gumshoe and even a null read on WoS who has posted once, maybe twice. What was the point of discussing shit with Artanis as CC didn't even try to form a read on him.

Artanis did the same with gumshoe. Fuckton of interaction that ends up with calling gumshoe scummy but then again maybe not.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 08:05 GMT
#279
I have no idea.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 08:13 GMT
#281
Could you elaborate more on what was that all about?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 09:07 GMT
#284
CheseCake - Artanis interaction and the outcome.
Go!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 09:13 GMT
#286
On January 07 2014 17:59 thrawn2112 wrote:
i was hoping that you would tell me why you're scum because i'm too lazy to make the case myself

What was your read on me before my answer and why did it change?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 09:29 GMT
#288
Actually this is where the interesting conversation about gumshoe ends:
On January 07 2014 10:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
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On January 07 2014 10:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:21 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Artanis, how do you feel about Gumshoe begging to survive the early game? I have my own opinion on it, want to see if you came up with the same conclusion I have.

I see a myriad of potential reasons. I've played a bunch with Gumshoe on voice and he tends to be loud there. He's been lynched there a bunch of times on D1 so I can imagine him saying this regardless of alignment. I struggle to find a reason that makes me lean on him to one alignment or the other regarding this specific post.


That doesn't give me much to work with =| I may as well tell you my opinion on it, see if you share the sentiment. Two games ago I was lynched as town for being too Pro-town, too sexy, whatever. Felt it was completely out of my control and it was terrible. In the game still going on I was called out for being protown and it actually pissed me off because I thought i was going to get lynched again, this time D1 for no reason.

I can see Gumshoe being sick and tired of being called scummy for seemingly no reason, and just wanting to survive as town. I think it'd be fairly ballsy as scum to say "Hey, don't lynch me D1, I'm going to show you I hunt scum" without being as sarcastic as Coagulation or something. It made me lean townie on him. Thoughts?

I guess it's just hard for me to imagine because I have never gotten mislynched. I'm just that good + Show Spoiler +
or that bad at scum that no one needs to worry
. Your story makes sense, but I can also imagine him having thought of this and deciding beforehand that he wants to post this. I buy that he's frustrated of dying on D1. I can completely get into that, I just don't see why that means he's town now. Saying "I'm going to show you I hunt scum" doesn't cut it in that regard.


What I should say is, I wouldn't post something like that as mafia so that makes me lean town on him. I take it you're leaning scum on Gumshoe atm because you posted that gumshoe was talking about something not being alignment indicative and that he gains scumpoints.

Gumshoe you are once again the topic of day 1 discussion! Congrats! I can only hope that this leads to good things this time around :D

It ends in a disagreement and neither of those guys bring that up any more and neither of them have a read on each other.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 09:42 GMT
#292
On January 07 2014 18:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
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On January 07 2014 18:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 07 2014 17:59 thrawn2112 wrote:
i was hoping that you would tell me why you're scum because i'm too lazy to make the case myself

What was your read on me before my answer and why did it change?


You're pushing the limit of how much thought you can assume I put into my earlier posts.

I mean you said "and there goes my only read" after i gave you an answer to your question.
I assume you had some sort of a read on me and i would like to know what that was.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 09:59 GMT
#293
On January 07 2014 14:17 iamperfection wrote:
before i go to bed one thing im confident on is that gumshoe is town. He has steeped into the spotlight and has stated his reasoning confidently and strongly and has provided some actual content. Some of his content is suspect like me prodding yamato is scummy lolololololol but regardless i think this is town and his paly reminds me of his early pm play in got where he stated his reasoning with the same confidence.

So hopefully he doesn't go and fuck it up like he did in that game.


1 down
Gumshoe Town

11 to go

see you all tomorrow

iamperfection how is this different than what gumshoe does in his scumgames? If this is a meta-read you should probably elaborate on that too because it's kinda.. the point of a meta-read, what someone does differently as town/scum.

If this is not a meta-read why are you faking it as one?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 14:32 GMT
#298
Who's scummy iamp?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 14:36 GMT
#301
yeah that one i forgot.
Let's lynch yamato, bugs and JAT and call it a gg?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 14:44 GMT
#303
Not really.

He didn't say "hi" to the thread. That's like a scumclaim. j/k, i dunno about JAT.

Actually no, i think yamato is town. There is some sort of a process going on in his head on his read on me. When he is scum there is no process, he just posts some stuff and tryhard reads or does not post anything.

Dunno about bugs either, have never played with him.

I have some super secret scumreads but i am waiting for all people to post.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 14:48 GMT
#306
From this post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439654&currentpage=12#236
..onwards in his filter. There is something happening, i just dunno what that something is, but i don't really care, because it's enough for me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 15:04 GMT
#308
Yes i think he is thinking about the game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 15:08 GMT
#310
He is trying to figure out my alignment and does not give a shit what everyone (including me) thinks about it.
He is doing stuff his own way, which is not what he does as mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 15:13 GMT
#315
It's not bad reasoning when i am right.
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