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On January 10 2014 11:58 kushm4sta wrote:
when rayn is in the game (and town) you don't have to read, because you can just look at his big posts and he lays everything out for you
While i understand you there is a problem with this kush. If you do this it''s incredibly hard for me to form a read on you because you are basically +1'ing or -1'ing me. I am not always right and regardless of me being right or wrong i might miss some important stuff or consider some stuff incorrectly unimportant. If you just agree/disagree with me or the things i bring up and i am looking into wrong places it's 2 townies "out of the game".
That's why i don't like what you proposed on D1. I want you to give your opinion on what has happened and what you find important in the game at that time. If you just ask "who should i look into" you are already doing what i said in the upper paragraph because i can't possibly point you to anything else than what i myself find important / scummy.
I want more insight from you, and especially form you, because usually you think quite differently and focus on different things than i do, so gimme gimme! ^^
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On January 10 2014 16:44 Corazon wrote:
Rayn. I've always wanted to know this about you: Do you sleep?
I do. Just slept ~10 hours. 
I've just had a lots of free time during xmas and for a week or so still so i understand the question. ^^
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On January 10 2014 16:52 Corazon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2014 16:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 10 2014 16:44 Corazon wrote:
Rayn. I've always wanted to know this about you: Do you sleep? I do. Just slept ~10 hours. I've just had a lots of free time during xmas and for a week or so still so i understand the question. ^^ Do you live in Finland? And what allows you to play mafia 24/7? 
Yeah i live in Finland. atm got nothing much else to do. I usually sleep when you Americans are posting, unless it's weekend when i stay up later mainly because of voice mafia.
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On January 10 2014 17:05 Corazon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2014 17:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 10 2014 16:52 Corazon wrote:On January 10 2014 16:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 10 2014 16:44 Corazon wrote:
Rayn. I've always wanted to know this about you: Do you sleep? I do. Just slept ~10 hours. I've just had a lots of free time during xmas and for a week or so still so i understand the question. ^^ Do you live in Finland? And what allows you to play mafia 24/7? Yeah i live in Finland. atm got nothing much else to do. I usually sleep when you Americans are posting, unless it's weekend when i stay up later mainly because of voice mafia. I think you are the only player who manages to play 3 games at the same time and not piss anyone off with lack of activity.
That has more to do with my memory than my activity. Everyone is capable of making posts ifthey want to i think. I usually rememeber pretty good what has happened and where to look if i need to reread something.
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On January 10 2014 19:42 marvellosity wrote:
I definitely should have posted more this game.
Your filter is probably bigger than Fuba's & gumshoe's combined.
EDIT: oh gumshoe actually posted quite a lot on N1, nevermind.
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But WC2 was probably one of your best town games i have seen and you were one of the few townies who should not be blamed about the loss. There is no reason to feel demotivated because of that.
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And i was really close to call you scum i nthe end. But you fooled me pretty well there.
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On January 11 2014 00:43 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 00:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But WC2 was probably one of your best town games i have seen and you were one of the few townies who should not be blamed about the loss. There is no reason to feel demotivated because of that. I'm pretty curious about WC2, because the sheer mention of that game infuriates me like no other. Which townies DO you feel can be blamed for that loss? (No hurt feelings here, I'm interested in your opinion.)
Everyone but you, thrawn and Koshi.
Okay to be fair OO played quite well aswell.
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...who also claims a green check on his scumbuddy.
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I can tell you WoS if you are looking for big lynch / play games be prepared to fuck up royally in at least 70% of the time. That's annoying, at least if you are not able to laugh at yourself after the game.
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On January 11 2014 01:04 marvellosity wrote:
Yes, the thing about the "big lynch" is that it's often thought of like that because everyone doesn't agree with you really. If everyone agrees with you easily then it's more of a group lynch. So it takes a lot of responsibility.
Like even I didn't have the balls to push rayn on my own in day 2 of ## mafia. Too much effort.
marv our day is day 3. It always happens there. <3
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I wanted to lynch you over a guy who was confirmed scum to me.
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On January 11 2014 01:12 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 00:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 11 2014 00:43 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 11 2014 00:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But WC2 was probably one of your best town games i have seen and you were one of the few townies who should not be blamed about the loss. There is no reason to feel demotivated because of that. I'm pretty curious about WC2, because the sheer mention of that game infuriates me like no other. Which townies DO you feel can be blamed for that loss? (No hurt feelings here, I'm interested in your opinion.) Everyone but you, thrawn and Koshi. Okay to be fair OO played quite well aswell. I was like 100% wrong about my scum reads in that game, all four of my suspects were town. Just to satisfy my own curiosity, in what way did you mean I played quite well?
You were obviously town. I don't have a problem of defending my team on D2, i am more afraid of people i can't possibly lynch in any way. And you being wrong on N1 does not mean you will be wrong at the end of D2.
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On January 11 2014 01:18 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 01:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 11 2014 01:12 ObviousOne wrote:On January 11 2014 00:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 11 2014 00:43 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 11 2014 00:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But WC2 was probably one of your best town games i have seen and you were one of the few townies who should not be blamed about the loss. There is no reason to feel demotivated because of that. I'm pretty curious about WC2, because the sheer mention of that game infuriates me like no other. Which townies DO you feel can be blamed for that loss? (No hurt feelings here, I'm interested in your opinion.) Everyone but you, thrawn and Koshi. Okay to be fair OO played quite well aswell. I was like 100% wrong about my scum reads in that game, all four of my suspects were town. Just to satisfy my own curiosity, in what way did you mean I played quite well? You were obviously town. I don't have a problem of defending my team on D2, i am more afraid of people i can't possibly lynch in any way. And you being wrong on N1 does not mean you will be wrong at the end of D2. I'm not sure you can say 'obvious town' from a scum perspective especially if the rest of the thread at the time didn't agree. I think a situation like that is relative. Like I believed I was 'obvious town' but once again people saw fit to consistently vote you and Umasi in.
We shot ObviousOne because we thought you and him were the most obvious townies for people (at least after the night kill and when people actually re-evaluate D1 and N1). The reason we did not shoot you was because i thought you 100% won a blue role with me & Umasi and i blue-vigged you. But lol, Cephiro?!?!?
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"When you play, you have to start off with a mind to turn the game into a rape."
Well this is what at least i do every game.
It usually also works, if not for my team then for the opposite team. haha
I think in mafia games the biggest flaw for people is that they are afraid to make mistakes.
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I remember when in RTP on D1 i attacked marv on D1 for something i thought was scummy. It was something like my 3rd game here or so. Multiple people told me to cut it off "because we are not lynching marv anyway on D1". That was one of the stupidest arguments i have ever heard. Then came in wise Palmar and told "marv hangs like any other player if he is scum". And i was happy again.
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On January 11 2014 02:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
I don't recognize my mistakes, and other times what I think may be a mistake really wouldn't have been.
I don't think 'mistake' in mafia is always as clear---there is not always a very clear 'right' or 'wrong' thing to post/do, and even when there are, often those things are susceptible to change as the TL meta changes.
That's why i usually talk with marv in PM's after... nearly every single game. All mistakes and "mistakes" are not so black and white and it's nice to have an another perspective on things even if you do not 100% agree what was / would have been the best play.
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On January 11 2014 02:04 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 02:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:I remember when in RTP on D1 i attacked marv on D1 for something i thought was scummy. It was something like my 3rd game here or so. Multiple people told me to cut it off "because we are not lynching marv anyway on D1". That was one of the stupidest arguments i have ever heard. Then came in wise Palmar and told "marv hangs like any other player if he is scum". And i was happy again. Should have just told you to cut it out because you were wrong instead :p
Haha yeah. I could have also lynched Acrofales but i had this horrible horrible win condition and i needed him alive for later town credit.
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I should make a "rayn plays" guide. I am sad people don't get what i am trying to do with my shit in games.
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No my stuff is foolproof. Like claiming i nuked obvious town Meapak in NWM which made Ace scumclaim. And saving Oats in Desert (+i wanted to get night hit but Oats didn't play along), or asking geript if he thinks his hydra partner is scum in Bluelightz game which totally outed him as town. Or claiming cop for "confirmed town status" 1h into the game because you can't possibly live after N2 or town has lost anyways.
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