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Toadesstern
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IT'S FUCKING AWESOME Probably still going to be around for 15 minutes or so as I still have something to finish up. If there's something I missed that needs to be done RIGHT NAO and can be done quickly go post it. Going to f5 before actually going to bed. | ||
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Toadesstern
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On January 28 2014 11:17 kitaman27 wrote: Witch Craft Works is a Japanese manga series written and illustrated by Ryū Mizunagi. The plot revolves around Game solved. also animated, airing right now, it also has a german witch, dressed in all military because that's what we germans do, that tries to kidnap him, giant robot bunnies attacking with swords and the like, giant teddy bears that crush cities and stuff like that. There's nothing that's not in there. Nothing. You see that stuff and think "wtf's going on in this show?" - not your show You see that stuff, think "wtf's going on" instantly adding "lol who cares, it's fricking hilarious" - watch it anyways, I take that as nothing important right now | ||
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Toadesstern
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Anyways quick updates: I really like the big posts from Foolishness. Especially the parts about WoS and Kita (and me, duh) as they just resonate with me so much I can't believe it. I went into Kita's filter and I really tried to because he WAS the thing in common between WoS+Kita and Foo+Kit. I read, I gave up reading, I read again and I couldn't find anything and ended up being frustated because it made no sense and I really did not think Kita's cheerfulness or however to put it decently was faked. It really did feel like a townkita to me, I was frustrated and people got frustrated because I should be lynching Kita according to what I said but couldn't end up bringing anything together. Next thing went into WoS filter again and it's exactly the same thing as he said. Sure some small things here and there but nothing convincing at all. I found myself thinking that his explanations for his emotional play and for what I considered weird play are odd but I didn't consider them and it was certainly possible despite being odd. Once that crossed my mind I thought about why he should even be emotional as mafia... There was no reason to be later on, sure maybe early on but gonzaw was praising him as a saint and Austin and I were the only ones that kept attacking him (well and Foo but only once all 24 hours) and a lynch on him didn't seem likely. There was no need to fake emotions at all so I got to the conclusion that he actually was pissed and that his weird explanations actually made sense. What this means for me? I'm still at the same conclusion about foolishness as I've been lately -> He makes a crapton of sense and I really like his posts but whenever lynchtime comes he just goes wtf and does some weird shit that makes no sense. Thinking about his 2 (most likely) mafia reads being Prom and Marv. I do like those as mafiareads, WoS not so much anymore. Prom has been talked about a lot recently, he did afk like the game's already in the bag and what's more he pointed it out himself saying he has to re-prove himself as townie. I don't think a townie would be sitting there thinking that way. A townie. Townies are confident in themselves and "there's no way anyone could consider me to be mafia because I'm obviously the townies townie that ever towned a town", or something like that, ESPECIALLY after how d1 went. Maybe a bad case of having to much information and prom knowing he's not actually town that made him come to the conclusion that he should kick it up a notch? Marv... honestly I haven't looked much into it but he's been after my ass ever sine I got in here with just weird stuff. Anyone remember when I said I didn't even read Holy's posts and everyone was completly fine with it but marv went nuts about it? Didn't like that one bit but I'd have to reread him before willing to lynch into that, it's just a gutfeeling right now. TL;DR: That being said for me it's about wether or not I want to trust in foolishness being town or not and it therefore will be a decision between Prom and Foolishness for me. I'll check out Foo's filter again to see try and understand how those weird wtf conclusions close to deadline happened to came to be and wether there's an explanation for it | ||
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Toadesstern
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On January 29 2014 01:44 Promethelax wrote: I afk'd for ~24 hours. Of course I need to prove myself townie. I'm not retarded, I know where I stand in the thread and I know that I was a lynch people liked a lot. Do you have any opinions that are actually...you know, real? Or are you going to say that everyone can scum and you need to wait to see how things pan out. give ma sec man, I'm getting to that | ||
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Toadesstern
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We're lynching Foolishness today. He's been up there for 3 days straight for a reason and I still fear that he will just pull some crap on us when deadline hits and I start to believe gonzaws conspiracy about how Foolishness has been buddying me and has been using us with his shiny posts inbetween to just do whatever else afterwards. Marv and Prom have gotten in here and they're trying to change things up. Foolishness has his 4 big posts that are all nice and dandy but I don't see him convincing people as much as I'd like to, only being here shortly before deadline suddendly saying weird stuff that makes no sense with what he said prior to deadline about how someone suddenly is a bad lynch and creating chaos. ##vote Foolishness | ||
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On January 29 2014 02:06 Promethelax wrote: What are marv and I trying to do together we are trying to change things up but, you say Fool is scum. How, then, can me/marv be trying to change things up since we cannot be scum together if fool is scum. change things up as in, you got in here and you're actively trying to do something about the situation of you guys looking worse right now... | ||
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Toadesstern
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On January 29 2014 02:11 Promethelax wrote: Oh. My bad. That makes sense. I thought you didn't like that I was working to improve my image? Wasn't that a thing you just said four seconds ago? I said I had a problem with you pointing it out instead of just doing it. | ||
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Toadesstern
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On January 29 2014 02:14 Promethelax wrote: But by the time you had an issue with it I had already been doing things as well as having said I needed to do them. So why create an issue there where I had already done what it is you say I needed to do to make that good. because I'm not here to post at 8am my time or whatever it was. I do like the fact that you're doing it. I still don't like the fact that you said it. Understandable? | ||
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Toadesstern
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On January 29 2014 02:19 Promethelax wrote: no, it isn't understandable at all. You brought it into the thread as an issue by the time you had caught up to the thread. You didn't say "if this had not been followed up on it would be an issue" you said "this is an issue" and three minutes later you dropped the issue and called me town and fool scum. On January 29 2014 02:05 Toadesstern wrote: that I'm less convinced about you two than foolishness. Frankly speaking, could be he's bussing one out of you/Marv/WoS right now because if he flips red you three do look better. where in the world do you get that I'm calling you town? I said it's an issue, I said I still think it's an issue. I said I think foolishness is the bigger issue. | ||
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Toadesstern
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On January 29 2014 02:29 Promethelax wrote: Kita, talk to me about what Toad is saying right now. He says that I look bad for something silly. That fool looks good for his huge posts/reads on me/kita/toad in conclusion Toad votes Fool does this mean that Toad is scum or can Toad flip this flop so easily? If Toad can be town while saying these things are the things he is saying true? Should Fool be lynched over prome?If so why? the reason I am and was voting foolish is and always has been "guy makes sense whenever he posts and I agree with him but suddendly goes fullretard when deadline hits" | ||
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Toadesstern
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We've got cookies over here. And you know what happened last time people didn't accept cookies, right? So basicly here's what I think. I agree with your "it's probably between Foo/Marv/Prome", it's what I've been getting at as well. Marv isn't going to get lynched today, agree? Foolishness has been getting heat for a reason this past week. I'm on him, [green]gonzaw[/freen] concluded with "foo buddying toad and using him, foo mafia", Kita who we both agree to be town most likely is on Foo and Marv, the guy known for bussing without any kind of bad conscience is on Foo. Prom as well (i think? votecount please). I like this lynch. This lynch is awesome. You really think we should be voting prom instead or what's up? | ||
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is it bad that I would have been able to say 喉が乾きました but wasn't able to come up with either "die of thirst" or "to be parched" ? On January 29 2014 03:18 austinmcc wrote: If you agree with that set of 3, then your options are foolishness/marv foolishness/prome marv/prome out of those three, i think the LEAST likely is foolishness/marv. Marv pushed him a little D1, they didn't play any games where they made cases on each other, fought like hell, lynched one and tried to get the other looking good, blah blah. I think that if you're on board with those three options, then yes, you should vote prome. Because I don't see a less likely scenario than Foolishness/marv, in which case prome is the common denominator. Unless you disagree on what scenario seems wonky. ##vote: Promethelax I now know what the misunderstanding (?) between WoS and me earlier was about. Yeah I agree if this is about who you're going to filterdive first as in who you want to focus on the most and it makes perfectly sense. I don't agree with voting based on it. I didn't yolovote Kita earlier either when I was at "well it's either Foo+Kita or Kita+WoS" but went back and checked his filter to make sure I'm right. Out of the things we have on those 3 I'd really say prome is the one that has the weakest things attributed to him. Might be I'm a bit biased because Marv went after me all the time but I do think so. I do agree with the basic assumption. I do however not take it for granted as much as I like it. | ||
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Toadesstern
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It's not like earlier when we had some people push for something that just didn't make sense with what the rest of the assumption was. Foolishness makes sense and he's the best lynch for today. | ||
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Toadesstern
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On January 29 2014 03:51 austinmcc wrote: Alright. Back. Not taking it for granted is fine, but people had Prome scummy D1, we pretty much backed off on D2 because of sandroba stuff (except VE). I dunno if I agree about prome having the "weakest things" attributed to him, but maybe. I'd flip it around and ask you if he's done anything in particular that made you feel townie on him. just recently, I've explained why I'd rather vote foolishness than him. He has a townread on me. He gets angry at me and asks what I'm doing. Why would he be doing that as mafia? Shouldn't be he sitting back in irc laughing and be happy that I'm willing to lynch foolishness over him? You think he'd attack me after everyone and their mom has called me town this cycle, as mafia when I'm voting foolishess instead of being happy to not have any more heat? | ||
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Toadesstern
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Spiderman is the kind of MC where you throw up while he's sprouting righteous stuff into peoples face à la "yeah I get you (Villain) had a bad childhood and I understand why you are trying to do all this. I feel sorry for you but killing newborn babies is bad no matter how bad your childhood was" and you just sit there and think FOR CHIRSTS SAKE JUST PUNCH HIM IN THE FACE | ||
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On January 29 2014 07:39 austinmcc wrote: If you believe this, why foolishness over prome? + Show Spoiler + On January 29 2014 06:25 austinmcc wrote: KITAMAN'S COMBINATRICS CRAP Toad is on board here with marv/prome/foolishness, pick 2 WoS or kita, are you as well? Regardless, here's how that set of 3 people plays out! marv/foolishness OR prome/foolishness OR marv/prome (1) marv + foolishness marv attacks foolishness on D1, because of Foolishness's sandroba comments. That's a lot of mafia on mafia on mafia interaction. Foolishness attacks marv on D1 for not doing much, again, a lot of mafia on mafia on mafia interaction. Does it make sense? It does if they go "jesus we're going to look weird if we're around at endgame, we need to sacrifice one or two of us to get one guy to endgame." They drop sandroba, giving marv credit, but keeping foolishness and marv at odds. Overall though, i find this UNLIKELY, because it seems like a terrible plan to START THE GAME thinking you're going to lynch your buddies and set yourselves apart. Their D1s, both posting that the other looks scummy, and continuing to harp on that, make it look like they are NOT mafia together. (2) prome + foolishness Town had the bestest D1 EVER? And again, from D1, foolishness and prome are calling each other mafia and setting themselves apart? Then Foolishnes is going "prome is the best lynch" --> I was wrong, prome likely town --> Prome is the best lynch? What does this accomplish for that team? Two scenarios. In one, they want PROME lynched and Foolishness alive. Foolishness gets a little town cred, maybe doesn't get lynched tomorrow. But here's the deal. He needs TWO mislynches. He's basically locked into not lynching Kita or Toad. So he goes for marv ezpz, after prome flips. Fine. Then Foolishness only has myself/WoS to go after. He's gone hard back to WoS is town, and is continuing to state that, push that, today when he just got back to thread. If he needs WoS as a mislynch, I don't think he reinforces the idea that he finds WoS townie. If he wants to go after me, he probably doesn't keep halfway buddying me. I think that this plan makes 0 sense. ESPECIALLY because the plan is "have Foolishness survive until endgame and secure a mislynch." Townies are going to be really creeped out by a living Foolishness at that point, ESPECIALLY after Foolishness worked so hard to get prome lynched. It just doesn't work. So the other scenario. They want FOOLISHNESS lynched today. Prome lives. MAYBE some people give him credit for Foolishness attacking him, who knows. Prome now needs two mislynches. He can get me killed pretty easily, because of my defending foolishness and conduct today. His other mislynch is ... more open. HE can go after toad or kita easier than Foolishness can, saying Foolishness is dicking town around with one of those reads. He can go after WoS, saying WoS looks weird for Foolishness coming back to town on him and really not trying hard to get WoS lynched over VE. Prome has way way way more options to win the game than Foolishness does. It looks LESS WEIRD if prome is around at endgame, and he has more choices. A mafia team of prome + foolishness HAS AN EASIER TIME OF WINNING if we lynch foolishness and not prome. (3) prome + marv In this case, we don't want to lynch Foolishness If you think that the remaining mafia are within foolishness/promethelax/marv, then you should be lynching promethelax. Because in one scenario, Foolishness is town. In one scenario, BOTH are mafia, but mafia has an EASIER TIME WINNING if we lynch Foolishness and not promethelax. The ONLY reason you should be voting Foolishness, IF you think mafia is in those three, is if you think the team is Foolishness + marv. I find that team very very unlikely, given how they'd played and interacted. Do you disagree with my conclusion? Or you think that it's not worth lynching based on that conclusion, and you're just set on Foolishness whether it makes the most sense out of those three or no. the latter. I want this cleared up for now. | ||
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