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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On January 24 2014 06:15 kitaman27 wrote: I probably wouldn't include the pair in the day 2 lynch discussion, but do you think Foolishness/austin is a viable pair or is there something that would eliminate these two as a team that makes sense? I read your post, and under extreme weirdly specific WTF circumstances, it is possible. It just is a conspiracy theory though, and it "obviously" seems to be wrong. But I'm paranoid as hell. Anyways, even in that case, follow my plan. In a Foolishness/sandroba/austin scumteam, Toad, VE, etc are town (who are most likely getting lynched tomorrow). Therefore we would misslynch tomorrow, and THEN we would say "Fuck we are wrong", and maybe, depending on Foo and austin's actions on D2, reconsider that possible pair. ...or is there something that would eliminate these two as a team that makes sense? Well, their play would eliminate that as a team that makes sense. austin not straight up voting Prome and ever sheeping me on sandro as well (which is what he would most likely have done in a Foo-sandro-austin scum situation). Just not worth even considering right now. If we are in LYLO or something else comes up be my guest. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On January 24 2014 06:19 Promethelax wrote: Does anyone disagree with next lynch being between those three players? If so who should it be between and why? I have a decent reason for everyone else to be town those three not so much. I agree. Lynch VE first, then Toad. Doubt you'll need to lynch WOS. But, if you lynch VE, then Toad, and the game is still going on, then something seems to be wrong, so reconsider a lot of stuff instead of straight up insta-lynching WOS. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 24 2014 05:58 gonzaw wrote: So, are we all in the same page here that VE will only talk about Foo and Prome for the rest of the game? Conspicuously absent is Holy, now hypnotoad a.k.a Toad, from his ramblings. like I said, I'm reading. Time spent posting is time spent not reading right now... But we can talk a little if you want, I spent the last hours and I'm getting a headache so I need something else to do for now or I'm going crazy. I read everything from the point I replaced in. From the people that seem to be worth looking into I really don't see foolishness being mafia. As far as I've come, I liked his posts and agreed with most of it, I liked his thought process when he pointed it out and when he didn't I found myself knowing what he's getting at because I had the same idea when reading something. VE is weird but I'd lean town on him so far. Town-VE is a man who likes to go on an adventure and posts like he doesn't give a crap. He posts weird, he posts stuff that makes people go "wat?" and all that kind of stuff. Mafia VE restrains himself more because he knows he has to and I'm not seeing that. Not sure about Kita yet, he's all over the place. WoS certainly the one I'd want lynched the most atm. Some stuff I didn't like about him. So pretty much start from the bottom and work my way up. Other than that I do have some beef with Hapa but he seems not to be an option right now due to votings so I'll trust you guys on that one until I'm done reading. Anything you want to talk about in specific? I'm not going to ramble or hypnotoad this game if you're looking forward (?) to that. Kind of got myself lynched as town (like actively, not passivly...) in the last game I played on d1 because I couldn't stand talking to rayn anymore and he kept tunneling everyone no matter what... so main goal right now is to make sure that doesn't happen again. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Although I can't help to think he's just good scum who can come up with good fake reasons like that. Holy spent 70% of his posts defending himself and posting excuses for not contributing (which were "I'm defending myself"). If I have to blindly choose between that guy, and a guy who at least seems to be trying (WOS) then I choose to lynch that guy. I'm not too fond of Toads "I won't post ANYTHING until I've read the thread" thing, because it most likely means he won't post anything at all until D2 comes and it'll be a pre-fabricated post with maybe pointless reads and fluffy shit and a vote and we'll have zero chance of getting a read out of him based on that. It would have been way way more helpful if he had just done a Prome and started maybe posting some shit while catching up with the thread. A simple "So, who was lynched on D1? Scum? FUCK YEAH!" would have helped. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On January 24 2014 06:26 Toadesstern wrote: Anything you want to talk about in specific? I'm not going to ramble or hypnotoad this game if you're looking forward (?) to that. Kind of got myself lynched as town (like actively, not passivly...) in the last game I played on d1 because I couldn't stand talking to rayn anymore and he kept tunneling everyone no matter what... so main goal right now is to make sure that doesn't happen again. Yes. If you should read anything at all and pay attention to, is the lynch deadline and how it unfolded. Let's see, hmm... How about start reading from here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137¤tpage=38 And up to here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137¤tpage=44 Just 7 pages. All the juicy stuff starts there (basically with marv voting sandro, and sandro coming to vote Prome). Also, read these: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137¤tpage=46#914 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137¤tpage=56#1106 After you've done so, tell us what you conclude; if you agree with Foo's and kita's posts, or not, etc. About VE, about Hapa, and those guys you are now "weird" on. Should be the fastest way to get something out of you before one of us dies tonight and D2 starts. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
Just popping in to say that I have been following the thread on my phone, and I wish I could have been posting during this point because I have a great deal to say---it'll have to wait until later tonight though (even though nobody will be around). I do plan on being extremely active tomorrow, so hopefully you guys will be around and don't drop off. I have maybe 5 min. Anything anyone wants that doesn't required anything in depth atm? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On January 24 2014 04:52 Foolishness wrote: I don't see any reason why all five of the people on sandroba aren't exempt. Yes I know what I said about marvellosity yesterday and that I would lynch him, but as I pointed out in my previous post here it doesn't seem likely for mafia to hop aboard the sandroba bandwagon. Really the most likely scenario of this happening is the mafia bus of sandroba, and given by the votes and who was voting that would probably mean that I'm mafia as well. I suggest reading my post I linked above again because based on the timestamps and who was voting and why I think it's clear that everyone on sandroba is town (as unlikely as that sounds in terms of raw numbers). Any of the people that switched had good reason to keep their vote on me. Moreso, as I pointed out, it is likely that Promethelax is town because mafia were sitting good with myself being the top lynch and second in line (Promethelax) also a town lynch. The overall point here is that the sandroba bandwagon was not initiated by mafia nor exacerbated by mafia. Mafia were sitting pretty and never expected that sort of switch to happen in the last 10 minutes. Furthermore the votes on sandroba were so close (1 minute apart for the last two) that it's very unlikely Promethelax was like, "oh I can vote for my mafia scumbuddy to gain credibility cause he already has the most votes". No, things happened too fast for it to be planned out like that. No scum would have moved to him at the start, no scum would have moved to him during the middle, and no scum would move to him at the end. Based on what happened, I suggest we look at WoS as well as VE. I like the arguments brought up against VE so far and I think a lot of the same thing can be applied to WoS as well. In particular lazily throwing his vote down on me. Here are his posts about me after I started posting in the second half of the day up to the point where he voted for me and left. What is disturbing about this is his wishy-washy behavior about me. He says he doesn't agree with my case on Promethelax, and that's fine in itself, and he also says he wants to "lynch me less". Then before voting for me says that my answers were "good enough" and that they "fit for a lack of a better term", and that it's my "early play that doesn't make sense to me". If my answers are fitting and good enough why are you voting for me? Just cause you don't agree with me on a person being mafia does not make me mafia. I was actually really surprised when he dropped his vote on me, who tells someone that they have good answers but they are still lynching them? What is also interesting is that he's entirely sheeping a read and admitting to it. Admitting to sheeping a read does not exempt you from sheeping a read. Does it seem like he has his own opinion on the matter? Does it seem like he has an idea of who to vote for? No. Look through his posts, he never really accuses anyone, and never says that he thinks person X would be a good lynch (as I said above, he never said that directly about me either). He dances around a lot of people, myself, marvellosity, Promethelax, etc. Sure, he threw his vote down and knew he wasn't going to be here before the deadline, and there is nothing wrong with that. The problem is that he had no opinion on who should be lynched before the vote. Also his vote started a landslide, since there were already 2 votes on me, and at the time the next closest persons had 1 vote. This is a critical vote because it started the pile up on me, and when people came back and saw this they started piling on (even though those people piling on are likely town cause they all jumped ship to sandroba). On January 24 2014 04:54 VisceraEyes wrote: In this post, scumFoolish tries to make town believe that scum VE and scum WoS, rather than try and save sandroba somehow, just lazily plop our votes down on Foolish. Because THAT doesn't draw attention to people! VE, was this really your reaction to the spoilered post? | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On January 24 2014 06:04 VisceraEyes wrote: Nuuuuuuuuuuuuu. If you're still around, lemme know. Otherwise I'll catch you later if alive. You know I'm generally not "crapping on people from outer space", and I can maybe even promise a paint pic or two.It's fine, I'm done with this game. Honestly people are too tunneled in and there's literally nothing I can do. When I try and participate it is shat on, when I try and have conversations with people it's scum claiming, I have literally no will left to play this game. Sorry austin, you didn't make it. I still don't think Toad nee Holy is mafia. Gonzaw, read that post about picking your brainz. The leadup to it and then the post. You see that set of posts coming from a mafia member? I think people are reading way too much into votes and associations. You're fine to suspect me if you want, or find my vote the "most likely to be mafia" out of the votes on sand, fine. But you need to square that with the rest of my filter, I think. Like half of sand's filter is responses to me over prome/WoS/VE (AMG IS HE QUESTIONING SAND OR ARE THEY JUST PLAYING AROUND AND SCUMBUDDIES!?). I believe I'm also the first to have trouble with Foolishness's mention of sandroba in his list of reads, where he says sand is townier for getting active (possibly wrong there, but think it was me). So if you want a sand/me team, or a sand/foolish/me team, that's a whole heck of a lot of interaction between the team you're playing around at. If you really want to push that idea, it's super fine. But there's a LOT of throwing around scumteams and crap based off nothing more than votes and supposition, with very very little consideration of actual posting to back stuff up. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On January 24 2014 06:41 kitaman27 wrote: Wave knows he's still going to be alive tomorrow. Only mafia know they won't get shot. ZOMG ZOMG! Troof. I slipped cuz I am most obvious D1 lynch. More slipping below: Gonzaw, I won't get a chance to talk to you it seems before you die, but GG. I may have to fight the posthumous incoming tunnel on VE that inevitably comes tomorrow, so don't yell at me too much from obs QT, k? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On January 24 2014 06:44 WaveofShadow wrote: Troof. I slipped cuz I am most obvious D1 lynch. More slipping below: Gonzaw, I won't get a chance to talk to you it seems before you die, but GG. I may have to fight the posthumous incoming tunnel on VE that inevitably comes tomorrow, so don't yell at me too much from obs QT, k? LOL and I actually slipped 'cause I meant N1 kill. haha that's gonna look AMAZING | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On January 24 2014 06:44 WaveofShadow wrote: Troof. I slipped cuz I am most obvious D1 lynch. More slipping below: Gonzaw, I won't get a chance to talk to you it seems before you die, but GG. I may have to fight the posthumous incoming tunnel on VE that inevitably comes tomorrow, so don't yell at me too much from obs QT, k? I will yell at everybody from Obs QT That's what I do | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Wouldn't that be funny? Very very funny *wink* *wink* | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On January 24 2014 06:47 gonzaw wrote: Wouldn't it be funny, if scum wanted to create WIFOM by letting me live, even after I've been saying so much that I'll die tonight? Wouldn't that be funny? Very very funny *wink* *wink* I WAS GOING TO TYPE THAT MYSELF AND THEN DECIDED AGAINST IT | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On January 24 2014 06:45 gonzaw wrote: Oh, I'm not worried about being lynched or looking scummy or whatever.Don't worry austin. If it comes down to trying to make a case for you being town, I think we can work something out. I'm concerned about people posting scumteams based of NOTHING but votes and timing, without any consideration for filters or anything. Heck, I'd rather someone post a team and then just hammer at me and call me scum. At least then they have conviction and are pushing a read or...some sort of read. People just posting "this could maybe be the team, /out" is useless filler. Yes. It turns out there are other mafia, and any of us could be those people. But if you're not gonna push a team as a real idea, or not gonna read filters, then you're just posting to post. | ||
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