• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:58
CEST 17:58
KST 00:58
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy9[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple2BSL Season 236Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon101Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Announcement RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 544 Double Trouble The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses Mutation # 542 The Ascended
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion NaDa's Body BSL Season 23 screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL22] Ro16 Group D [ASL22] Ro8 Day 1 [IPSL] IPSL is Back With Winter 26-27!
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Diablo IV Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine All you football fans (soccer)!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Gaming Intensity, Problemati…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7743 users

[I] [S] Shadow Mini Mafia - Page 3

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 22 23 24 Next All
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 21 2014 20:32 GMT
#414
On January 22 2014 05:27 gonzaw wrote:
Like, I'm reading WOS posts and they seem kind of fine; except some pointless questions (like his "Do you and Hapa have a history?" question here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137&currentpage=13#247 )
But then him being too passive and "nooby" strikes me as off.

I'm pretty grey on others, but I haven't finished reading yet (on page 16). Kita seems to be looking better though. I like the fact that his thought process is consistent when going against sandro and myself. I mean that "Don't tell scum about what you are looking for because they will avoid it" when he voted sandro and did that stuff to me.

Sorry, why can't mafia do this?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 21 2014 20:36 GMT
#416
you're very strange gonzaw
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 21 2014 22:33 GMT
#451
austin:
On January 21 2014 12:02 kitaman27 wrote:
I'd rather talk about marv. He suggest that the all vanilla setup makes things difficult to start off rather than attempting to generate conversation.

On January 21 2014 22:28 kitaman27 wrote:
Mostly a weak idea to see if anyone wanted to take it farther than it warranted. Nothing useful really came out of it, besides maybe a few unnecessary defense posts that could possibly be looked at post flip later on in the game.

Do you feel Hapa's attempts to generate conversation are town motivated or is he more concerned with personal appearance?

I said I was ok with this explanation originally, but mulling it over it doesn't make much sense to me. Kinda weakly attacks me on a dumb basis, and the defence posts? People of either alignment are gonna make comments about how I play (early) Day 1
Anyways the bolded was one of the questions I was talking about. I find it hard to describe but meh. It's like leading by giving options... just weird phrasing.

On January 21 2014 12:36 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 12:24 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 21 2014 12:16 kitaman27 wrote:...The reason to random vote sandroba is because he is incredibly lazy and notorious for getting away without posting on day one.


Well... why wouldn't you post this before? Regardless, several players have mentioned that sandroba isn't going to respond to pressure anyway, so I don't see the point here.


I wanted to see whether you thought that I was pushing sandroba based on his first post or not.

Regardless of whether or not sandroba will react to having votes on him, I still think the best way to start off a game is to place votes early on 1-2 targets. If we're discussing players that have recently posted, I'm not really interested in joining you on VE. Would you be willing to support a Wave bandwagon? I find very few of his questions relevant thus far. I don't see what he is looking for.

Wave, would you like to explain your approach to the first few hours of the game?

Just a really odd way of asking Wave about his lacklustre start, don't you think?

On January 21 2014 13:12 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 13:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 21 2014 13:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 21 2014 13:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm voting for Prome because he immediately asked you a question about me that applied to Wave equally, and then made up some nonsense reasoning as to why it applied to me but not Wave. That's not odd to you?


Not particularly. What's more odd to me is how unwilling you've been to pursue this scumread on Prome despite how active he's been in the thread the past few hours.

Like, you're entirely skirting around me trying to discuss this with you, while accusing me of not discussing it. Is anyone else seeing this?


I'm probably closer to a 2 on Prom than a 10 right now based on your reasoning.

Do you think Hapa is mafia for the way he is attacking you?

Obvious and leading.

On January 21 2014 13:29 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 11:50 Promethelax wrote:
VE: no, everyone is suspicious because you guys had the chance to start without me but did not start. Hello posts are nothing and nothing was done. For like four hours.


You say that everyone is suspicious for not getting things rolling, yet later decide it's worth defending marv that he is willing to take a back seat role at the start.

Do you think VE is the type of player that engages in serious discussion from the start?

-snip-

Again obvious and leading.

On January 21 2014 23:04 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 09:31 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 21 2014 09:29 sandroba wrote:
I'm trying to figure that out too. My plan as of now is to wait for some scummer to give themselves away in their first post.


Not much of a plan if you're going to warn people about what you're looking for.

##Vote Sandroba

(Did you catch me?)


Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 12:16 kitaman27 wrote:
If you start calling people scummy and vote for someone off their first post, people won't take you serious later on. I certainly wouldn't do something like that!


Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 22:42 Promethelax wrote:
Kita (said "I don't call people scummy early because it makes people listen to me less later" which isn't true and so totally wired that it rings scummy since I cannot figure out what it gives a town Kita while it does provide some benefit to a scum Kita.)


So one of your strongest reads currently is based off a joke post?

gonzaw, do you think VE's response to early pressure was a scummy overreaction or simply a concerned townie trying to fight off a bad argument?

Again, it's giving binary options... like providing a wrong and right answer.

None of these by themselves really suggests that much, but there's so many of them. All leading, or weirdly phrased, or kinda obvious questions. Odd.

What I actually find suspicious of kita in light of recent posts is how he's attacking gonzaw. gonzaw has been looking pretty town to me lately, he's eager, lots of big posts, he's commenting on a lot of players, he's suspicious of a lot of players with decent grounds, and yet kita is nitpicking at him for his vote on Foolish compared to kita's. That's unnatural and it's not how I'm viewing the game and it doesn't feel right at all.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 21 2014 22:34 GMT
#452
Oh Fool posted. *reads*
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 21 2014 22:37 GMT
#453
ok he can stay for now

##unvote
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 21 2014 22:40 GMT
#455
Do you think gonzaw is suspicious at the moment austin?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 21 2014 22:42 GMT
#456
Foolish I'm curious if you've looked at any of WoS's meta at all?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 21 2014 22:46 GMT
#461
I think you're more warranted on Holy than you are on VE, gonzaw. You're right that Holy did seem unnecessarily angry/fierce in that post you pointed out, and that is scummy

VE I'm much more inclined to agree with Foolish on. I don't really see anything in his play that I find particularly scummy. He's pretty impetuous and involved

gonzaw do you think kita's questioning of you is warranted? No-one seems at all interested and if you aren't then I'm gonna have to rethink this :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 21 2014 22:50 GMT
#464
On January 22 2014 07:45 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 07:37 marvellosity wrote:
ok he can stay for now

##unvote


Would this suggest that you agree with Fool's reads, or do you just think his post is a town-tell?

Do you think he's capable of faking those kinds of posts as scum?

I think his post looks reasonable townie and there's a lot of effort. I'm not sure how much i agree with his reads atm
kita lower, prome higher, marv much much higher, WoS ??, gonzaw higher
But his reasoning feels townie - putting me where I am because I'm forgettable, while ego crushing I like it as an angle to take, it's non-routine

i think he's capable of these posts as mafia, especially after the champions game, and the way he made a list at the end was actually eerily similar to how he made lists at the end of those posts :p but overall the meat of it made sense. and he's trying
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 21 2014 22:53 GMT
#466
On January 22 2014 07:48 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 07:33 marvellosity wrote:
What I actually find suspicious of kita in light of recent posts is how he's attacking gonzaw. gonzaw has been looking pretty town to me lately, he's eager, lots of big posts, he's commenting on a lot of players, he's suspicious of a lot of players with decent grounds, and yet kita is nitpicking at him for his vote on Foolish compared to kita's. That's unnatural and it's not how I'm viewing the game and it doesn't feel right at all.


From the start of the game to the point where he votes Foolishness and I comment on him, this is what he has commented on regarding other players:

"Why the hell does WOS post "Welp" so many times? :/"

"Like, I'm reading WOS posts and they seem kind of fine; except some pointless questions" (Originally posted by me)

A valid post questioning Holy's defense of Foolishness.

Now you say that you are suspicious of me for my attack on gonzaw due to the fact that "he's suspicious of a lot of players with decent grounds"

Am I missing something or are you not reading the thread marv? gonzaw did make a big post on Holy that I have yet to read, but my attack post occurred at an earlier time. How can your suspicions against me be valid if you've got your timeline mixed up?

It means I'm in your filter, if the timing is off then I'll check, I thought he'd posted other substantive thoughts about VE and musings on WoS etc by then
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 21 2014 22:55 GMT
#467
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137&currentpage=22#439

came after

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137&currentpage=22#435

and other posts where gonzaw talked about VE in quite some detail and also touched on Holy and WoS. In short gonzaw was not only tunnelling fool but spreading his tentacles about with quite a bit of thought
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 21 2014 22:55 GMT
#468
the point being the more gonzaw posts the better he looks to me, but you keep on him (i don't care about the earlier attacks so much, even though they are a little weird to me, but not weird in a scummy way)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 21 2014 22:57 GMT
#469
although apparently i'm the only one who has a hardon for gonzaw right now :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 21 2014 23:01 GMT
#472
austin.

...
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 21 2014 23:03 GMT
#474
I have many kinks, tentacles aint one :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 21 2014 23:34 GMT
#483
On January 22 2014 08:27 Hapahauli wrote:

2) Foolishness's Post

Yeah, so I don't think it's a town-tell (as many people have mentioned before). His post in Parallel Worlds comes to mind, that he can fake these larger posts as scum:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=387370&currentpage=31#607

I will say though that I agree with a lot of it. Mostly that Prome and WoS's contributions after their early-game posting have fallen off a cliff. There's nothing in their filter besides early-game fluff yet, and looking back on things, their early-game contributions weren't all that impressive.

I'm not 100% convinced that either are scum yet, but at this present time, they'd make good lynches for their lack of meaningful contributions to the thread.

As for who I'd prefer between Holy/Prome/WoS? Not sure yet, and we have 24 hours to decide atleast.



As for other players, I'm currently null on Foolishness, Marv, and Sandro. Town-reads on everyone else.

To the bolded: that post in Parallels was a big load of bollocks though. Like he was mafia because everything in the post was bullshit and he didn't call out the genuinely scummy people/defended them.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 21 2014 23:42 GMT
#487
I did play in that game so I remember ^^. And yes it's the content. Enough for me to not want to lynch him atm.

gonzaw: Holy or Wave. Dunno about Prome, I don't have the issues other ppl seem to. Apparently I'm seeing ghosts with kita, I'll come back to that (or not) later. The Holy emotional stuff is pretty good as mentioned
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 22 2014 00:12 GMT
#493
hapa? kita was clearly suspicious of gonzaw earlier on (aka "contributions without being a contribution") and to then keep nitpicking at gonzaw's case when kita's vote is on the same person is... strange to say the least
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 22 2014 00:19 GMT
#495
hapa, specifically

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137&currentpage=19#369

explaining his previous post
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 22 2014 00:20 GMT
#496
Holyflare is Hapa mafia?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 22 23 24 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 18h 2m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
UpATreeSC 271
SteadfastSC 130
CosmosSc2 61
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 36629
Shuttle 2513
Light 981
BeSt 804
Mini 453
Rush 332
Stork 321
Snow 221
hero 138
Dewaltoss 112
[ Show more ]
Shine 68
Hyun 42
sorry 34
PianO 31
ToSsGirL 26
HiyA 26
Sexy 22
Sharp 21
Terrorterran 21
Hm[arnc] 19
Rock 18
NotJumperer 17
Aegong 17
Dota 2
qojqva3504
Counter-Strike
x6flipin428
ceh9356
fl0m306
Heroes of the Storm
crisheroes428
Other Games
hiko845
B2W.Neo572
Liquid`VortiX213
ArmadaUGS125
Mew2King87
Rex63
QueenE63
Trikslyr24
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Afreeca ASL 360
StarCraft 2
TaKeTV 76
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 7
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• mYiSmile146
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 6532
• WagamamaTV501
League of Legends
• Nemesis3527
• TFBlade1083
Other Games
• Shiphtur139
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
18h 2m
Replay Cast
1d 8h
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
GSL
3 days
Yamato Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Soma vs Jaedong
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Leta vs Soulkey
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.