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First of all from rayn his filter it is quite obvious rayn finds day 1 very important. That's really obvious from his filter. So you got either scumrayn that nayvotes first mission because he is playing the longest con in the entire universe. It is also rayn so if he is scum and both Adam and Hopeless aren't then I am very sure scumrayn would LOVE to go head to head with these 2 in a battle who is the towniest fucker and who is the spy out of the 3. Pretty sure he would also win it and in the meantime protect his 2 scummates from getting a lot of flack. Would be classic scumrayn. (in my eyes) Or you got townrayn that is so overprotective of that first mission that he nayvotes the team solely out of fear that Adam is scum. Because rayn has Hopeless as pretty much confirmed town. So if townrayn says yay and the mission fails he got a 90% scumread on Adam and rayn does not want to make that gambit because day 1 is so important. That's the only 2 ways I see atm and I think townrayn is way more likely than scumrayn here. Even though I completely disagree with that nayvote somewhere. On the other hand, if Adam is scum and we are able to send in a rayn/Hopeless/3rd townie in now then it was a pretty sexy play. Especially because like I said, scumVE counted on the fact that rayn would yayvote it :D. | ||
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On January 01 2014 03:58 Corazon wrote: Do you think his accusations of me are him trying to figure out if I'm scum or just him throwing shit on me? In my opinion, he's been throwing shit at me all game and he tries to count that as scumhunting when it isn't. I will say No to any team with Hopeless on it. Hmm. Why would scumHopeless do that though? Wouldn't it be easier to go with the tide and fling shit on me with all of you and then be friends with you? A lot of the "shitflinging" Hopeless does towards you is to protect me or defend me or w.e, which is just strange play in this set-up. Why would Hopeless defend me? Because he gets a townie on his side. Why would Hopeless fling shit at you at the same time then? That's counterproductive. Put neck out to gain 1 townie trust, but at the same time lose 1 townie trust. And my trust is worth way less than your trust at this point in the game. Doesn't make sense. | ||
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On January 01 2014 04:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: How in god's name is this town behavior? Irrelevant discussion only serves to obstruct actual, useful, town-beneficial discussion from taking place. He also hasn't said anything, and it's not just being busy because he ninja voted without saying a word in the thread. He is far and away the scummiest player in this game right now. First of all. I am not saying CR is town and I am not considering him to take him on a Mission. I am pretty sure nobody considers to take CR on a mission. It doesn't make any sense to play like this as scum. CR is the opposite of rayn concerning Mission 1. One guy thinks mission 1 is Holy and the other guy cba with Mission 1. Clearly CR is confident that he is going to break the game on Day 2 and further without having to go on Missions. That's way more likely to come from town than from scum imo. It is also quite obvious that CR is presenting himself as a Resistance specialist, dangerous to do as a scummer that wants to play the long game. Way easier as a specialist playing with noobs is to simply showcase your skill and go on Mission 1. CR is capable to make big ass posts that look super intelligent. Look Thug Life Mafia. Why wouldn't he make those and at least hint he wants to go on a Mission. CR couldn't care less about Mission 1. It's obvious. TownCR mindset: I don't give 2 fucks about mission 1 or painting anybody red Day 1. If it succeeds great going and I have the skillset to figure out who needs to go Day 2 and/or if Mission 1 was tainted. If it doesn't succeed I will use my skillset Day 2 to figure out the game and steer town to the right direction for mission 2 which I think is the most important. Day 2 I will shine. ScumCR mindset: I don't give 2 fucks about mission 1 or painting anybody red Day 1. If it succeeds with 3 towns on it I am going to have to try my hardest to get a scummer on Mission 2. Close to mission impossible but damn I will have to try it and show face if it might fail. If it succeeds with 1 scummer on it I can still backseat and try my best on Day 2 to get that scummer on the team again and then he will have to fail it Day 2. If my scumteammate decides to sabotage the mission I will make sure I am the scummer that goes onto one or more of the missions 2 to 5. Or at least paint the wrong guy red. Like clearly CR doesn't care who goes on Mission 1. As scum there is 1 big risk and that is that 3 townies go on Mission 1. It doesn't look like CR is trying to do anything to prevent this big risk. It's not like CR has any ground to stand on and nayvote. He simply will have to keep saying yay and wait till Day 2. I don't know. I said CR is null. But I got him leaning town for these reasons. It's just too ballsy scumplay. You guys are all saying I am scum btw. Now add this ballsy scumplay from CR on top of that. Jeez. | ||
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On January 01 2014 04:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi do you want ot 100% send yourself? No. Like I said. Sending myself would make my scumhunting easier because if it fails I know I only got to look at 2 people. On the other hand when it fails I understand that due to my earlier play it might be too hard (even for me) to prove my towniness later on or at least make it look townier than others for Mission 4 & 5. I don't think I want to take that risk. However, I feel good on my rayn/Hopeless reads so the chance that sabotage will happen is low enough to warrant that risk. | ||
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then a Cora/rayn/Hopeless party looks pretty cool. I think it is better than me in case one rayn/Hopeless is scum. better for me at least. Grack townish but didn't do enough to also take on a Mission tbh. The things I like are his early town read for Hopeless and his posts concerning the first team. Like saying he would nayvote regardless the first team was and saying that the team already passed while a couple people still had to vote. Kinda makes him look like he is in the dark. | ||
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On January 01 2014 05:14 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Cora and Hopeless on one team? If that team fails this thread will explode. Possibly. In my eyes lowest chance of failing team that goes through without me on it. | ||
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On January 01 2014 05:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi you should listen to Snetinel's piano song when scumhunting. I tried it in Titanic II and found many scum.  Shouldn't have shot them then :D Already listened to it. Quite good. Been a while. I shall try it next time :D. Kinda done for today. | ||
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The biggest problems I have: 1) The nayvote as 4th vote with what he now calls a bullshit reason, who does that as town? I refer to big case to why he does it as scum (it comes down to bussing = bad). Here are the posts in VE filter around that:+ Show Spoiler + On December 29 2013 00:30 VisceraEyes wrote: Well if the guy who picked the team isn't confident, why should I be? I don't even have to read to nay-vote the team. XD I'm reading anyway, you rascals. On December 29 2013 02:53 VisceraEyes wrote: Adam's reasoning is pretty generic for his picks, which isn't bad per se, but he himself is kinda a null read for me and I'd feel comfortable with someone like myself or Corazon on the team. Maybe a little Sentinel. But mostly just less Adam. ##Vote: Nay On December 31 2013 05:13 VisceraEyes wrote: And no, I thought Adam was scum when I nay-voted the team. Or at least, I was explicit in saying Adam was the reason I was nay-voting. On December 31 2013 12:32 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm going to be completely honest here guys. The reason I nay-voted Adam's team was because three people instantly yay'd it and that bothered me so I nay-voted. I hadn't filtered a single one of them when I voted. It was a response to the present votes, period. Discuss. On December 31 2013 12:34 VisceraEyes wrote: When I posted later, I had filtered them and posted my thoughts, but at the time of my vote, I had no idea what alignment I thought any of the candidates were, aside from maybe having Adam as leaning town for thinking I'm scum for bad reasons. He says he purely nayvoted based on the 3 yayvotes and didn't read any filters. HOWEVER, while he nayvoted he gave pretty accurate reasons to why he nayvoted ADAM. And then the last post in the spoiler is saying that when he actually did read Adam he had a townie read on Adam. That's a pretty serious contradiction right? | ||
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It's that there is no depth reasoning coming from VE this game. 1) Like he says 5 people are town, 1 scum but doesn't say anything about last 3. Keeps these reads for a couple days. Later when pointed out that last 3 are probably not scum together (something he should already have realized somewhere in these couples of days), he replies with "oh you are right, maybe you are the scummer <3" | ||
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On January 01 2014 07:49 Corazon wrote: Why would he point out his own contradictions? Both his reasons for downvoting Adam's team (he didn't like Adam/he was concerned by the lack of opposition) were decent reasons on their own, the only problem is that he changed his story halfway through. I don't see scum play in his open and honest posts. Well, rayn was somewhat commenting on it and scum VE can't be pushed into a corner where he has to commit to a read on his scumbuddy Adam (or it is Hopeless/rayn). VE is not committing to any reads btw. What is the best he gave us? Like a really well thought reason anybody is scum / town. Maybe he has done 1 or so but not that many. The nay-vote as 4th vote was fucking strange. It's not like he was really trying to prevent the team from happening as well. And his latest claim is that even though there was still enough time VE didn't even read the damn filters.... Which is a lie because he did read Adam filter because he commented in his nayvote. Which he then contradicted doing so because he said that when he actually read Adam filter he had a TOWNread on Adam for saying VE is scum for bad reasons. | ||
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So rayn, Koshi, Hopeless 3 votes from teammembers, 1 from CR and then I got to beg Grackster. Hmmm. | ||
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On January 01 2014 09:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I will vote yay on this team as I said before. Oh true. I was thinking it was the one with Cora. Cora, What is your problem with Hopeless exactly? Because as far as I remember it just started when he defended me and called you scum. | ||
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Hopeless and rayn. Honest opinion? Couple lines = thx. I am asking this in the offchance you are town. Because this team is going to make it. Like probably. | ||
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On December 29 2013 11:39 Hopeless1der wrote: I disagree. rayn, assuming he's town, is going to be able to push his team like no ones business at a time when the pressure is on for both parties. I'd like to believe rayn can build a solid team when he gets his turn. Guys we should totes approve every team that gets put up so those last guys dont get to be leader huehue. If you read LXIII you see that scum Hopeless doesn't do this shit at all. Not even close to. Not even a little bit close to it. I don't even understand why we didn't lynch him LXIII. I think everybody actually forgot he was in the game or something. Like in Hogwarts he was also very involved in the game. Marv voted him for a second and he went into a little argument with him, up and personal just like here with Cora. In LXIII Hopeless just stated into the thread towards everybody something like "jeez how do you dare to vote me while I have showed more effort than the 72 hours before this" while he made his 8th oneliner in 72 hours as opposed to the 5 oneliners before that. It's like day and night. | ||
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48 hours. Meh. Nothing going to yay vote just yet but like in 99,9% of the time I will. | ||
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