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Current Leader: Adam4167
Deadline to Vote on a Team: 04:00 GMT (+00:00)
Countdown:
Proposed Team: Adam4167, Hopeless1der, raynpelikoneet
Current Vote Count:
Hopeless1der: Yay
Adam4167: Yay?
[UoN]Sentinel: Yay
Koshi: Yay
VisceraEyes: Nay
raynpelikoneet: Nay
Chairman Ray: Yay
I've consulted with a few people and I'm going to make everyone vote, regardless of their status of mission leader. As I have changed this rule on the fly, it will not take effect until after Day 1 ends. However, in the interest of documentation, I would like to request Adam to formally vote on the team thread.
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I'm going to have to Nay as well. I gave it careful consideration but I realized that Adam has had little thread presence and I can't really trust his picks because I believe that he has not been putting enough attention into the game to read anyone else.
The other thing that startles me was the lack of contestation of the picks. 3 people voted yes without really discussing it, which makes me nervous that this team is backed by the spies, which would most likely result in this mission failing. There wasn't enough scrutiny early on which doesn't give me confidence in Adam or his team.
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On December 29 2013 04:02 Chairman Ray wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2013 22:44 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On December 28 2013 15:31 Chairman Ray wrote:On December 28 2013 12:04 FirmTofu wrote:On December 28 2013 10:51 Adam4167 wrote:
Do I have to yay my own team? seems rather redundant I'll assume yay unless you type nay for whatever reason. Leaders should have to yay or nay their team. There's plenty good reason for a leader to reject his own team, and in this format, the order in which people yay/nay brings good information, so I think we should still require leaders to formally yay/nay as well. What would be the reason? From my experiences, leaders commonly reject their own team. The reason is not because of a lack of confidence, but because the most information and discussion comes from more rounds being played. Great information is gained through seeing other leaders' picks and people's voting patterns from round to round. If the leader feels that more information can be gained, then he would propose a team, and then reject it himself. Here's one such scenario that occurs often: We are on the 5th round and the score is 2-2. We still don't know exactly who the mafia are, but we put our towniest 5 on the mission. The leader rejects the mission making the vote fail in a 4-5 vote. However, two people who were not on the mission yayed it. This confirms those two as mafia, and indicates a high likelihood that there is a spy that was sent on the mission. If the leader passed it, the game would have been lost right there.Our voting format is a bit different than the real Resistance, but the concept is the same. I would expect that leaders would not yay/nay until the deciding vote. If new information arises that would indicate that the team is not good, then the leader would reject it.
I can't check right now because of shitty work internet, but I believe FT gave Adam the option to nay vote if anything like that came up, but just set his default state to yay.
The two in your example are not outed as mafia unless the leader is excluding himself from the mission and is town himself, netting six towns. Otherwise there could be one hopeful towny in there voting for his allies, and more off-team townies if there are spies on the mission. I see what you're trying to say but that hypothetical case is pretty convoluted and full of holes.
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Ninjad by FT
So that's the majority isn't it? We can't change our votes?
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He's making Adam vote formally so we still have a chance to convince him to oppose his team and read the game.
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On December 29 2013 05:46 Corazon wrote:
He's making Adam vote formally so we still have a chance to convince him to oppose his team and read the game.
OH I JUST REALIZE ADAM IS ONE OF THE FIVE
I'd love to hear more from Adam (my own decision was pretty rash, I put a lot of faith in Adam since I had nothing to go on).
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Cora & VE both scummers.
Current team is all town.
CR is town.
I would say out of sentinel and grack, grack is the scummer.
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Would you like to explain your post?
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On December 29 2013 06:16 Koshi wrote:
Cora & VE both scummers.
Current team is all town.
CR is town.
I would say out of sentinel and grack, grack is the scummer.
Please do, I wouldn't say you're the shining beacon of town enlightenment right now either
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Cora going after me so soon was cute, but now he is too invested in it for no reason. I was not getting elected or was elected and Cora is already making plans to not let me go on mission 2 & 3. There is no townie reason for that. He kept blackening my name with his joke "pulling a Koshi".
VE was playing it cool. Staying in the back, I thought he was gathering reads and not letting the scummers feel his presence at first. VE even made the comment "even when I am not elected I can still give good reads", but after adam made his team. VE came into the picture and instantly undermined Adam without touching the team, no townie reason for that. The follow up reads VE gave was null on adam. Nothing at all on rayn and Hopeless. Town on Cora and Sentinel. Which doesnt make sense, if Adam is nullish and the biggest problem in that team. Then VE has already townreads on rayn, Hopeless, Cora and Sentinel. Pretty strong stuff. But VE is not that confident at all in his post, he should be pushing a nay vote from everybody and be captain himself, pick his reads and own this game for town. But he isn't, he is still unsure about what to do when his team gets through and he will have to pick sabotage or not. VE is scum. Pretty sure about him.
CR is town for spilling all the information. I am a guy that hasnt played resistance yet and I feel CR his information is helping me. Unless CR is teamed with 2 noobies there is no reason for him to be noobfriendly. Sadly people are thinking I am scum so this is looking like exactly the thing CR as scum would do to help me but nope. I am not scum.
CR is being neutral atm. Neutral is good. VE pretended to be neutral at start but wasnt after first team got out. Cora is pushing me (town) out of mission 1-3.
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Game is pretty slow btw. Didnt expect that. Also. Why am I always so scummy at start of the game  . I wanted to go on missions and be awesome. Koshi totes town. Totes town. Town town town.
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Adam. Pls do vote yes for your team.
Lets call rayn town.
I don't know if I like hopeless because too many people like hopeless tbh. Just realised that now. L Hmm. Could be that VE is scum with hopeless and therefore ignoring him and already planning to put stuff on you. Would be sad. Hopeless is on you then.
So yeah. Yay for your team!
PS: you better not be scum or I am looking bad.
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Rayn, don't be thick. I asked the host if my submission of the team counted as a yay from me, he said yes, so there was no reason for me to vote.
When I went to bed there were 3 yes votes and no one was contesting my team, so what was I to discuss? I'm not going to bark at the people that have voted yes, their votes are in, and they've already done their bit. For everyone else, I was waiting for them to bring their objections to the thread to discuss with them. If they had no objections, there was nothing to discuss and they'd vote yes.
The level of resistance this team is facing is what I'd expect from an all town team. I'll almost certainly vote yes, but we've got 4 hours still, may as well use it to discuss.
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Why didn't you tell that in the first place then? There is no reason to not answer when someone asks you something.
Who would you pick as the fourth member right now if you were to send in a 4 man team?
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On December 29 2013 08:46 Adam4167 wrote:
Rayn, don't be thick. I asked the host if my submission of the team counted as a yay from me, he said yes, so there was no reason for me to vote.
When I went to bed there were 3 yes votes and no one was contesting my team, so what was I to discuss? I'm not going to bark at the people that have voted yes, their votes are in, and they've already done their bit. For everyone else, I was waiting for them to bring their objections to the thread to discuss with them. If they had no objections, there was nothing to discuss and they'd vote yes.
The level of resistance this team is facing is what I'd expect from an all town team. I'll almost certainly vote yes, but we've got 4 hours still, may as well use it to discuss.
Level of resistance? The team has already passed lol.
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I've consulted with a few people and I'm going to make everyone vote, regardless of their status of mission leader. As I have changed this rule on the fly, it will not take effect until after Day 1 ends. However, in the interest of documentation, I would like to request Adam to formally vote on the team thread.
You have already "voted yes" so why the sudden hesitation?
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On December 29 2013 08:53 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2013 08:46 Adam4167 wrote:
Rayn, don't be thick. I asked the host if my submission of the team counted as a yay from me, he said yes, so there was no reason for me to vote.
When I went to bed there were 3 yes votes and no one was contesting my team, so what was I to discuss? I'm not going to bark at the people that have voted yes, their votes are in, and they've already done their bit. For everyone else, I was waiting for them to bring their objections to the thread to discuss with them. If they had no objections, there was nothing to discuss and they'd vote yes.
The level of resistance this team is facing is what I'd expect from an all town team. I'll almost certainly vote yes, but we've got 4 hours still, may as well use it to discuss.
Level of resistance? The team has already passed lol.
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Like, I don't know what Adam is expecting, everyone to just fall in line and vote yes and not even think? There's no "level of resistance", there's me and rayn with our problems with the team that passed with not even everyone voting.
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I was planning on voting no regardless of the team today, but It's pretty weird playing with the votes not showing simultaneously.
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I made the assumption that you could read the thread, specifically this post:
On December 28 2013 12:04 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2013 10:51 Adam4167 wrote:
Do I have to yay my own team? seems rather redundant I'll assume yay unless you type nay for whatever reason.
How do you not read this and assume that I am yay voting my own team?
If i had to send a 4th member, sentinel or maybe cora.
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On December 29 2013 08:53 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2013 08:46 Adam4167 wrote:
Rayn, don't be thick. I asked the host if my submission of the team counted as a yay from me, he said yes, so there was no reason for me to vote.
When I went to bed there were 3 yes votes and no one was contesting my team, so what was I to discuss? I'm not going to bark at the people that have voted yes, their votes are in, and they've already done their bit. For everyone else, I was waiting for them to bring their objections to the thread to discuss with them. If they had no objections, there was nothing to discuss and they'd vote yes.
The level of resistance this team is facing is what I'd expect from an all town team. I'll almost certainly vote yes, but we've got 4 hours still, may as well use it to discuss.
Level of resistance? The team has already passed lol.
Only just by the looks of it. 5-4 is all i'd expect from a town team. If it had gone over in a landslide, then I'd know i'd fucked up.
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