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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2014 16:45 GMT
#119
noooo!

just in case, /in
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2014 17:29 GMT
#124
can it plz start in 5 min?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 00:34 GMT
#304
i'm town

lynch hopeless

hey does anyone know how to beat the boss from world 4-1 in demon souls? Do you just run down the stairs? I use a melee character and always die before I reach the bottom
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 00:35 GMT
#305
i object to BH being mayor
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 00:43 GMT
#317
On January 11 2014 09:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
BH I can totally read kush. Also you hosted extractor trick. Wtf?

Thrawn I thought we were cool bro what gives?why you gotta lynch me?


if I told you then you'd stop doing it
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 00:58 GMT
#327
who do I vote for that will lynch hopeless?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 01:12 GMT
#332
I'm a miller. (or butcher for this game) I crumbed it in my first post, those of you who played demon souls should be able to figure the crumb out. I crumbed first because I didn't know if I should claim.. I asked marv for advice and decided why not
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 01:25 GMT
#338
On January 11 2014 10:18 Xatalos wrote:
Is it a reasonable strategy to fakeclaim Miller? I've never heard of that being done, but is it within the realms of possibility?


nope never happens
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 02:02 GMT
#349
DrH.

I like some of the things you said however I am worried that if town, such aggressive mayor tactics might lead to you going power-crazed and taking the hammer threats too far. How can you assure me this will not be the case?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 03:42 GMT
#391
BH why didn't you pm me about DrH? We've pm'd about other things so it shouldn't have been weird to also talk about DrH.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 04:00 GMT
#396
rayn you running for mayor?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 06:57 GMT
#410
all this is great but who is scum because I don't know
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 07:26 GMT
#413
On January 11 2014 16:22 WaveofShadow wrote: theoretically confirmed town


don't think those words go together, so no.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 07:47 GMT
#422
3/10 formatting
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 07:49 GMT
#424
On January 11 2014 10:48 yamato77 wrote:
Also, I'm the best candidate for mayor.


no longer interested?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 07:51 GMT
#427
it seems you are correct
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 08:16 GMT
#431
how do you think that is scum indicative
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 08:17 GMT
#432
also he didn't pm me about that despite us pming about other stuff and i'd still like an answer as to why
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 08:49 GMT
#442
currently thinking about rayn/yamato for mayor
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 08:59 GMT
#448
yes I agree and would like to add:



Original Message From Mocsta:
I saw my role Pm. So I know mine.


Show nested quote +
Original Message From thrawn2112:
what is your most recent read or thought about an alignment

Original Message From Mocsta:
You werent mentioned in the QT link?

Guess that means we are masons.

Original Message From thrawn2112:
are we masons again? or are you scum?


"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 09:09 GMT
#456
ve this conversation about DrH is so boring! say something more interesting plz!
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 09:16 GMT
#465
##vote: yamato77
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 09:27 GMT
#483
On January 11 2014 18:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote:I typically go many hours without reading the thread and completely forget what I said. I forgot I was even that aggressive with BH in the first place.


lol.. sounds like someone we know, doesn't it rayn?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 09:49 GMT
#514
On January 11 2014 18:48 kushm4sta wrote:
page 17.. already skipping over gumshoe's posts because he's obv town. Any disagreement?


are you scum after all?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 09:52 GMT
#521
kush.

what do you make of bh?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 09:52 GMT
#523
On January 11 2014 18:51 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 18:49 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 11 2014 18:48 kushm4sta wrote:
page 17.. already skipping over gumshoe's posts because he's obv town. Any disagreement?


are you scum after all?


no im not. do you agree that is he obvious town?


nope. I just don't know why you'd care to bring it up.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 09:53 GMT
#525
should have been yes, instead of nope about gum. i read a double negative in your post that wasn't actually there
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 09:57 GMT
#527
##unvote

that has nothing to do with yamato, he is still in my top 3 picks probably at least #2
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 10:23 GMT
#538
hmm i am willing to bet that when we share pm reads our reads end up reaching many people, anonymously or not

what if the thread gains consciousness? what do we do then?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 10:33 GMT
#549
hey mocsta. do you want to post all of it in context?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 10:34 GMT
#552
actually whatever nvm that
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 10:45 GMT
#566
On January 11 2014 19:40 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 19:40 kushm4sta wrote:
mocsta whys rayn scum

Its nothing i can explain in words

just the inflections I hear in his voice.


what about the rustling
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 20:22 GMT
#715
agree
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 20:38 GMT
#722
On January 12 2014 05:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos had a PM convo he quoted in thread with DrH last night (fin time). In the morning i ask DrH what he thinks about Xatalos. His answer is literally "i don't even know who Xatalos is lol". Xatalos - when he comes back to the thread - does not call DrH out for it.

What the fuck are those guys doing in PM's? Why don't people pay attention? Xatalos seems to be paying attention and appears pro-active, yet he doesn't notice that kinda stuff. DrH forgets half of his PM-mates, what's the purpose of PMing if you don't even remember who you have PM'd a couple of hours later?

Seems like there is no purpose and they are just throwing PM's around to look active.



On January 12 2014 04:04 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 03:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Nah, only marv and alakaslam have pmd me. oh and bh.


What's this about? We've exchanged several PM's already. You pretty much avoided answering anything though...... You refused to talk about your reads or your policy. And now you just forgot? How is that even possible?


I think you're wrong rayn. do you have any other reasons to think xata is scum
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 21:07 GMT
#742
for some reason that clicked with me but I don't know why. did you figure that out in pms or is there a reference that i'm having trouble remembering?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 21:08 GMT
#744
suchdoge, are you on irc? i am and wold like to talk. or pm me once you can do so
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 21:56 GMT
#759
On January 12 2014 02:30 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 02:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
kushm4sta is being really annoying and if he is town he should stop saying things that are 100% incorrect.

Meh. Kush is cool this game.
Trawn/Mocsta are the ones playing to be an annoyance. I do not know why.


this too koshi. i can understand mocsta being there. don't really understand my name being there and i'm curious if you thought being annoying was alignment indicative for either of us
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 23:37 GMT
#882
anyone open to lynching mig?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 12 2014 01:00 GMT
#915
On January 12 2014 09:59 marvellosity wrote:
that wasn't even emotional blab yamato, i'd be fine with a mafia player posting any of that


what was your read on it?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 12 2014 01:03 GMT
#919
yeah i'd kinda be interested in hearing which players haven't pm'd marv unless he pm'd them first
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 12 2014 01:29 GMT
#941
On January 12 2014 10:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
you also said you'd be fine with a xatalos lynch so do you think:
xatalos
rayn
marv
alakaslam

are all scum?


I'd say all town but dunno about xata. I just realized that i've posted almost no reads

naughty list

xata
koshi
derrida

nice list

rayn
yamato
kush/vayne
alakaslam
DrH
gumshoe
blazinghand
WoS
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 12 2014 01:52 GMT
#971
lol I knew that was coming
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 12 2014 01:53 GMT
#974
well marv. that explains the awkward bits about bh from hopeless pm's
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 12 2014 02:15 GMT
#1026
when u guys say irc do you mean irc/ts/skype?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 12 2014 03:31 GMT
#1040
suchdoge, i am mrbungle on irc, please get in touch. or if you can pm again that's cool too
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 12 2014 03:49 GMT
#1045
On January 12 2014 12:47 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 12:39 Aquanim wrote:
On January 12 2014 12:33 justanothertownie wrote:
If we would be talking about a normal game you would probably be right. But this is a mayor game.
If you want to hear my reads you could question me you know? But you didn't do that. You did not try to figure out my alignment and instead just threw shit on me.

See, the thing is that if somebody accused me in the way that I just accused you, as a townie I would not have attacked them back. I would have thought "hey, they have a point. I should post my reads and convince them I have actually been thinking about the game."

Also, just because this is a mayor-election day doesn't mean we shouldn't talk about who is scum.

The bolded is obviously true but it is of secondary importance to me right now.
If someone who looked townie accused me I probably would have reacted that way. But it was you who did next to nothing himself and to me it looks really suspicious that my lack of public reads is the scummiest thing you found in this game.


what in your opinion is the scummiest thing in the game?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 12 2014 04:00 GMT
#1047
Has anyone talked to JAT in pms? I have been recently and I got the impression that he was making up his reads on the spot. Explanations were short and there weren't many conclusions. He also only talked about people that I mentioned first, something I noticed about my own scum mason play (esp the rayn chat) from Time to Die. Does anyone have similar or contrasting experiences with him in pm's?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 12 2014 08:55 GMT
#1078
attention thread

please raise your hand if you have been in contact with suchdoge, and specify which of you initiated the conversation. special points go to anyone that can tell me anything about his reads. if he has revealed his identity i'd like to hear it, you should pm me or wos or rayn if he's revealed it to you
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 12 2014 10:25 GMT
#1101
derrida's ignored both PMs I've sent him and I have no issue with lynching him
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 12 2014 10:28 GMT
#1102
actually I am sure of this, any mayor who doesn't promise to lynch derrida won't get my vote
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 12 2014 11:05 GMT
#1112
derrida has no interest in fighting his lynch..
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 12 2014 21:00 GMT
#1371
I don't like the xata lynch, I don't even think he's all that scummy. As stated earlier I am not gonna vote for any mayor who doesn't promise to kill derrida.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 12 2014 21:03 GMT
#1378
On January 13 2014 06:02 suchdoge wrote:
Derrida was replaced by Oats. Read the damn thread.


OH WOW YOU"VE CHANGED MY MIND SUDDENLY I FORGOT WHY DERRIDA IS SCUM

........
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 12 2014 21:06 GMT
#1384
yeah that last post goes to captian obvious, not suchdoge. maybe suchdoge too. i cant tell who suchdoge is talking to

"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 12 2014 21:08 GMT
#1387
On January 13 2014 06:07 suchdoge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 06:03 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 13 2014 06:02 suchdoge wrote:
Derrida was replaced by Oats. Read the damn thread.


OH WOW YOU"VE CHANGED MY MIND SUDDENLY I FORGOT WHY DERRIDA IS SCUM

........


Don't be ridiculous, if he was lacking time then you can explain the way he appeared in thread with that. It's better to give the replacement at least a cycle to catch up.

Xatalos is scummier and a better lynch even if Derrida was still here. Go read his exchange with marv around page 62 or whatever where he claims he was talking lots in PMs since he woke up or whatever. The guy is clearly trying to inflate his actual impact on the game. No townie does that, especially not with such a poor explanation that is provably false and misleading after some pressure.


he's only lacking time now. he was not lacking time for the majority of the time he didn't spend posting. and what marv said is true

he was obviously scum before he even posted
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 12 2014 21:09 GMT
#1388
On January 13 2014 06:08 Captain Obvious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 06:06 thrawn2112 wrote:
yeah that last post goes to captian obvious, not suchdoge. maybe suchdoge too. i cant tell who suchdoge is talking to



Don't you think you should wait to see what his replacement does?


no absolutely not
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 12 2014 21:36 GMT
#1403
yeah i'm actually cool with xatalos. i just reread the PMs we exchanged at the start of the game and they weren't as productive as I remember them being

but i still prefere derrida
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 12 2014 22:37 GMT
#1441
very underwhelming post from mig imo
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 12 2014 23:26 GMT
#1471
On January 13 2014 08:15 Aquanim wrote:
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On January 13 2014 08:09 marvellosity wrote:
Can anyone find a single suspicion in VE's filter other than a vague mention of Captain Obvious?

Does that even make VE in particular scummy?

Well when I PM'd him (it's pasted in the thread somewhere) VE said he was suspicious of you (Marv) and Mocsta, but he'd had difficulty convincing anyone else. When I asked him for his reasons, he stone-walled me.

Can anybody else report that VE actually mentioned these reads on Mocsta or Marv to them, and that he actually tried to convince them?


yeah he mentioned marv to me last night. he wasn't pushing the read very hard though, just kinda saying stuff that couldn't be refuted yet isn't very important
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 12 2014 23:39 GMT
#1488
+ Show Spoiler +


Original Message From VisceraEyes:
I'm townie as fuck in not PMs, and even townier in PMs.

And yes, there is at least one name on that list that I disagree is probably town. Maybe two.

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Original Message From thrawn2112:
Eh, I don't think you're being too much of anything in not pms. Same for most people.

Do you disagree with any of the following as town?

rayn
yamato
kush
alakaslam
DrH
gumshoe
blazinghand
suchdoge

I don't have scumreads yet, mostly because I'm waiting on pm responses from potential scumreads

Original Message From VisceraEyes:
Am I not being townie in not PMs?

Original Message From thrawn2112:
Are you being townie in pms?


we also had maybe a 15-20 min convo in irc about marv, but it wasn't terribly interesting and I don't have the logs
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 12 2014 23:47 GMT
#1498
On January 13 2014 08:44 marvellosity wrote:
[09:59] <VisceraEyes> He's not engaging me at all - trying to figure out my alignment, get my opinion on things, get reads from me, anything. It's all take and no give with that guy, and that's not been my experience with town marv


I do not have the logs but iirc this is 100% the exact same thing he told me, down to the word. Obviously not a huge deal but odd
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 12 2014 23:51 GMT
#1503
On January 13 2014 08:47 marvellosity wrote:
But he's lying about stuff, and he keeps shutting down private conversations - with both rayn and VE.


same for me

On January 13 2014 08:39 thrawn2112 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +


Original Message From VisceraEyes:
I'm townie as fuck in not PMs, and even townier in PMs.

And yes, there is at least one name on that list that I disagree is probably town. Maybe two.

Show nested quote +
Original Message From thrawn2112:
Eh, I don't think you're being too much of anything in not pms. Same for most people.

Do you disagree with any of the following as town?

rayn
yamato
kush
alakaslam
DrH
gumshoe
blazinghand
suchdoge

I don't have scumreads yet, mostly because I'm waiting on pm responses from potential scumreads

Original Message From VisceraEyes:
Am I not being townie in not PMs?

Original Message From thrawn2112:
Are you being townie in pms?



obviously I could have asked him to elaborate after the last PM, but I shouldn't need to
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2014 00:30 GMT
#1553
are there supposed to be links to go along with that
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2014 00:39 GMT
#1556
On January 13 2014 09:34 LSB Banking wrote:
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On January 13 2014 09:30 thrawn2112 wrote:
are there supposed to be links to go along with that


yes there are... but I don't know if I can fix that without having to copy&past every single clicky


do you have any reads based off of anything that's been posted since you made your first post?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2014 01:03 GMT
#1575
On January 13 2014 09:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
Some VE logs.
Have fucking fun.

Can give you thrawn and yamato if you want too.



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Original Message From VisceraEyes:
I'm down to IRC or whatever. I didn't bring it to the thread for that reason - because I can also see DocH doing this as town maybe if it is him going all emo.

My vote is on you because I think you'll do your hardest to find a good lynch and lynch it. You're putting in way more effort into fooling me than I think you would if you were scum, but that's just my feels reason. You're PMs with me seem to have a genuine concern for trying to figure out other peoples' alignments, and you don't seem evasive about anything. That's why my vote is on you - because I think you're town and because in the end I'm confident in your commitment to the game if you win. If you're not running just let me know and I'll find another candidate, but I think you'll do fine for this game.

Original Message From WaveofShadow:
People's reasoning on Derrida appears to be that his opening post in this game somewhat matches the opening post in his scumgame (which is his ONLY other unflipped game---he's another that is still running). I get my ass burned on newbie reads all the time but I really don't THINK he's scum...I mean of course he could be pulling all that newbie shit as scum to throw people off but ugh.

I don't think you could get DrH lynched for that nor do I think you should. Isn't DrH all about going all emo when stuff doesn't go his way? Is that what made him give up the election exactly as well because I thought he had reasoning in thread as to why he backed down, unless he was lying. Personally this is the reason why I wouldn't have voted him for mayor in the end (and if I was running, would have included it in my platform)---because DrH is known to get 'bored' or give up shortly after D1. He gets demoralized very easily and we need something better than that in a mayor. Also how exactly did rayn and suchdoge shake him up? Because I could very well see the both of them as scum. Rayn is just not performing to standard this game and I have a case on suchdoge in thread that nobody has commented on.

Why is your vote on me right now exactly?
(I'll probably be around for a while since my guy is having a rough night, so if you want to irc at any point just PM me and let me know.)

Original Message From VisceraEyes:
No he didn't warn me, but he has asked me for a couple of paragraphs on my reads. He says he's lost confidence in the game.

I could probably get him lynched for the PM he sent me. It's really out of character and given context, looks pretty bad. I'm just trying to figure out of I'm seeing what I see.

Here's the post.

Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
can i get like a paragraph or two on your top one or two scumreads, i'm really out of confidence in this game rayn and suchdoge really shook me up. i need a jumping off point since my BH lynch fell off the map.


He was suspicious of BH in the thread AND in PMs with me, but now he's acting all mopey because his scumread didn't pan out, presumably due to the mason claim.

Can I see a town Doc acting like this? Maybe. Scum DocH? Maybe.

Like from my perspective, as town, I'm like "Whatever, we'll lynch one of them eventually if they never die in spite of being claimed and confirmed town" so I'm just fine with letting them go. But it shakes DocH into giving up the election? What do YOU think it means? I think it makes him look much worse.

Also where the pissballs is rayn? Since BH claimed mason I've seen practically nothing from rayn.

What's the deal with Dirreda or whatever? Why are people suspicious of him? I've read most of the thread and I'm not really seeing much reasoning for it. I really just need to reread the whole thread before it gets too big to do so. I just read the last 20 or so pages but I kinda want to start over and reread everything before I go any further. And before I do that I'm gonna play LoL.

Original Message From WaveofShadow:
Thoughts on who you'd want as mayor now with DrH out?
Did he talk to you at all or give you any warning regarding his dropping from the race (ie was it a gambit)?

Also for pretty terrible reasons I'm thinking Mocsta is scum.

Original Message From VisceraEyes:
I responded to that point. I don't have time and no, I couldn't totally win. Scum got me elected last game.

Original Message From WaveofShadow:
You know, aside from Koshis dumb suspicion of me because I'm not 'mad enough' about rolling town, he makes a point about you and the mayoral election. You could totally win---why not run?
Original Message From VisceraEyes:
Yeah when you were all defeatist about how bad towns have been and stuff, a la Thug Life. As much as I may have agreed with you about it, being vocal about it in the thread did nothing but make me think you were dramatizing it with malicious intent

Original Message From WaveofShadow:
Wish I knew honestly. I've never played with a scum marv so I don't know what to expect, and PM-land is muddling it up because I don't know what he's doing. I know I don't like the fact that he's not even attempting to assist town in public as normal.

(What do you mean by in a hole about the quality of play here? Do you mean in this game, or Thug Life when I was all ragey? )

Original Message From VisceraEyes:
I mean, everyone who CAN find scum for good reasons should be assertive and confident about it - maybe then towns would be able to get shit done. I'm super glad to see that you're not in a hole about the quality of play here though, that shit was annoying.

What do you think about marv? I mean you said he's not doing as much as you'd hoped or expected or whatever...do you think that makes him scum? Or more likely to be scum? Or is it null to you?

[quote]



are those the only people you've talked to in PM's? Me, ve, and yamato?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2014 01:05 GMT
#1577
no dont do that
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2014 02:40 GMT
#1604
ve.. why are you making an effort to be scummy
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2014 05:04 GMT
#1619
hey guys WoS is town but we hurt his feelings

be nice to him or he will probably act scummy out of spite
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2014 05:08 GMT
#1621
I think VE has been buddying WoS hardcore

evidence is everything in the logs and VE's mayor vote
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2014 05:38 GMT
#1623
hey yamato. you do irc?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2014 06:13 GMT
#1630
On January 13 2014 15:12 Mocsta wrote:
Damn.. I was considering shooting thrawn.


honestly i will feel left out if you dont
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2014 08:44 GMT
#1637
somebody summon geript!
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2014 09:06 GMT
#1641
Aquanim

+ Show Spoiler [thread] +
On January 12 2014 11:16 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 11:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
let's talk about how derrida is scum

Yeah, OK.

Reasons to think he's scum:
list post, but that's a heuristic in which I have only limited confidence
bases his mayoral preferences first on "enjoying reading their filter because it is srs" and second his read on them

Reasons to think he's town:
I got nuffin, but I do have...

Reasons I'm not certain yet:
he has like 2 posts and being a newbie his thinking about "is this relevant to whether they should be mayor or not" probably isn't expected to be entirely accurate whatever his alignment

tl;dr I'm not certain he's scum but he's a reasonable guess

P.S. will go meta him now re. Marv's statement



On January 12 2014 11:35 Aquanim wrote:

All I see in justanothertownie's two-page filter is kinda pointless oneliners in which he commits to almost nothing. For all I know he's doing work in PMs, but based on his thread presence so far he's another possible scum for me.


On January 12 2014 19:36 Aquanim wrote:
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On January 12 2014 19:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 12 2014 19:05 Aquanim wrote:
On January 12 2014 18:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So do you think this is unreasonable? This is about your reads post i talked about earlier:
<VisceraEyes> I don't really like it - his problem with Obvious is something obvious, and his problem with justanothertownie is that he's acting like justanother townie. And he complains about lurkers.
<VisceraEyes> But what I really don't like about it is that he later asks me what I think of it...as if I should already be aware of his stance on justanothertownie, when he states quite literally that those reads are about as firm as his null read of someone else.

Well. I gave my problems with Captain Obvious the thread space they deserved, which was about a sentence. It's not like I'm screaming for a policy lynch of him - just gave my opinion of him.

And why shouldn't VE be aware of my stance on justanothertownie? The conclusion of my clash with JAT is literally on the same page as where I asked him that question. Is he not reading the thread or something?

For that matter, why shouldn't I ask VE for his opinion on a read I'm pushing?

I question the purpose of VE raising any of those points.

Because you don't really have a stance. You call JAT out for not posting reads. Why is JAT a scumread when about 80% of the game has not posted a single read?

JAT had clearly been present for a fair bit of the game but hadn't done anything which seemed like he was even interested in looking for scum.

If PM evidence is presented which shows he was looking for scum in that way I will reconsider my read. If ya'll reckon that JAT not looking for scum is his standard town meta I will (disgustedly) move him to null.


--note-- i don't believe aqua has followed up on this read at all

On January 12 2014 21:34 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 21:23 marvellosity wrote:
On January 12 2014 18:36 Aquanim wrote:
On January 12 2014 18:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 12 2014 18:22 Aquanim wrote:
On January 12 2014 18:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do, do you have any reason for calling people out for making general statements and then following it up with statements like:

"And then there's the eight or so other lurkers."
and
"Of the active players I reckon at least most are town."

??

Well for starters I'd appreciate it if you say where I "called people out for making general statements". I remember calling JAT out for "having no commitments regarding any reads at all in his entire filter" which is not at all the same thing.

Also, everybody makes some general statements, including me. I've also made some not-general statements. What exactly is your point?

I also can't help but notice that you haven't really answered my question. Would you care to correct that?

Interesting. I don't see a single clear read from you in thread. If there is some, could you point me out to one? All i see you say about other people is "they might be town or scum". And yes i answered your question. You asked me if i have a reason to think VE is town and i said i do.

Do you have a reason to think VE is mafia?

I think JAT is much more likely to be scum than town, for the reasons stated earlier - namely that he didn't seem to have any reads, even when I pushed him for it. I've seen the PMs Thrawn referenced here and I find JAT's reads there entirely unconvincing, just some lacklustre one-liners. Derrida moderately more likely to be scum than town, but that could change fast since his filter really doesn't have much to go on yet.

And yes, I have a reason to think VE is mafia. There, see? Two of us can play that game.

As a FYI, bugs kinda laid into jat in Quiet game for "having no reads" while he was alive, both in-game and post-game.

Surprised you didn't notice this given you hosted it? Or take this into account at all into your read...?

##vote: marvellosity

It would be an easy playstyle to replicate if he's scum. At worst, if he's town I have hopefully communicated to him that he should have reads and make them public to convince us all of his alignment. If he does that I am quite willing to be persuaded that I am incorrect in my present read, if that is in fact the case.


+ Show Spoiler [PMs] +
"As for WoS, my read is like I said - gut says town, can't find any actual reads he's made so I'm having difficulty substantiating it, and I don't know him well enough to guess whether this raging is characteristic of his town or scum game. I've PMd him to see if he actually has reads he was too mad to post or not - starting with exactly why he thinks VE is town."

"Also, about Gumshoe: putting himself forward as a mayoral candidate put him in the spotlight some so it'd be a ballsy scum move but he's done absolutely nothing since. The following post is a pretty half-assed way to support a Xata lynch. How seriously are you considering him? I'm currently at "if he does nothing significant tomorrow he's a decent lynch"."

"I don't really know a whole lot about Koshi except that I think he's usually more active and more proactive than this. On that basis I'm leaning scum, but I think what this should really mean is "I should go talk to Koshi and find out what he's actually thinking"."

"well he's not posted since I talked about him in the thread. In short, there's nothing about him I find towny and have no objections to seeing him hang, but due to the sheer shortness of his filter there's not enough material for me to be certain. "

"My recollection of what I've seen from justanothertownie in the past is that this isn't *quite* unbelieveable as his towngame, I don't remember him ever having much in the way of strong/accurate/confident reads and pushing them.

Reading those PMs it certainly doesn't feel like he's put a great deal of effort into his reads, but I'm not 100% certain that makes him scum - I've long since ceased to be amazed at the failure of townies to put effort into games. He's certainly jumped up to the top of my scummy list though."

"Leaning scum on Rayn since he hasn't claimed that Mocsta is scum for the clusterf*** between the two of them. Blatant OMGUS is basically all Rayn does as town, isn't it? (based on BttB anyway)

Then again the sheer derpiness which Rayn is exhibiting is a towny indication generally from him. "Talking about reads in PMs is anti-town"... is he drunk or something? Basically I don't want to try to read Rayn because either way reading his posts will pain me.

Mocsta's trolly play is bizarre and not really typical of him, but I think I'll have a chat with him privately. Either he's scum and just trying to shit up the thread or he has some motivation for inciting Rayn, I could believe either. Or maybe he's drunk too.

Kush seems moderately towny but not really enough to judge yet. "


Town Aquanim from BttB

The differences should be pretty obvious. Aquanim is clearly player who as town (which he's always rolled previously) likes to put a lot of thought into his reads and effort into his posts. He's doing neither of those this game. His explanations for reads only go surface deep, and many of his reads follow the pattern of "maybe this, maybe that, and here's an out for my future self." He doesn't screw around like that as town. He thinks through a problem, and comes to a conclusion which he clearly states. I've been having trouble getting firm reads out of him for much of the game, and when he considers a person's alignment he only takes small portions of their play into account. This is not the thoughtful town Aquanim that I've played with.

I also want to mention that I've been in PM contact with him since 15:40 KST, roughly two hours ago and he has not posted in the thread during that time. I'm fairly sure that I noticed this happening earlier in the game. His thread presence is non-existent, but since that is the case with so many likely-townies because of PMs I'd like to hear if any of you have PM'd him enough to get a read on him.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2014 09:31 GMT
#1645
nvm about aqua... he just came pretty close to town-confirming himself to me

Original Message From Aquanim:
Well, I still think you're town (perhaps even more so now, that case felt about right as your town mentality) so I'm still willing to talk to you - though the fact of the matter is I don't have anything more I want to ask you for now.

Just so's you know.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2014 09:45 GMT
#1650
On January 13 2014 18:40 justanothertownie wrote:
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On January 13 2014 18:31 thrawn2112 wrote:
nvm about aqua... he just came pretty close to town-confirming himself to me

Original Message From Aquanim:
Well, I still think you're town (perhaps even more so now, that case felt about right as your town mentality) so I'm still willing to talk to you - though the fact of the matter is I don't have anything more I want to ask you for now.

Just so's you know.

I don't really get how this confirms him as town in your eyes.

ok
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2014 09:54 GMT
#1653
On January 13 2014 18:47 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 18:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 13 2014 18:40 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 13 2014 18:31 thrawn2112 wrote:
nvm about aqua... he just came pretty close to town-confirming himself to me

Original Message From Aquanim:
Well, I still think you're town (perhaps even more so now, that case felt about right as your town mentality) so I'm still willing to talk to you - though the fact of the matter is I don't have anything more I want to ask you for now.

Just so's you know.

I don't really get how this confirms him as town in your eyes.

ok

Like would you explain this to me?


We've been talking all game and I've been very friendly in a "i'm town reading you" way, but I've gone back and forth from scum and town reading him without him knowing. All he knew up till I posted my case is that I was probably town reading him based on how I acted in PMs. Then suddenly I reveal my scumread to him and the thread, and he's still interested in talking to me even after he knows I strung him along in PMs. I don't think that as scum, his first reaction would be to immediately talk to the guy who just "betrayed" him.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2014 09:59 GMT
#1657
On January 13 2014 18:56 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 18:54 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 13 2014 18:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 13 2014 18:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 13 2014 18:40 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 13 2014 18:31 thrawn2112 wrote:
nvm about aqua... he just came pretty close to town-confirming himself to me

Original Message From Aquanim:
Well, I still think you're town (perhaps even more so now, that case felt about right as your town mentality) so I'm still willing to talk to you - though the fact of the matter is I don't have anything more I want to ask you for now.

Just so's you know.

I don't really get how this confirms him as town in your eyes.

ok

Like would you explain this to me?


We've been talking all game and I've been very friendly in a "i'm town reading you" way, but I've gone back and forth from scum and town reading him without him knowing. All he knew up till I posted my case is that I was probably town reading him based on how I acted in PMs. Then suddenly I reveal my scumread to him and the thread, and he's still interested in talking to me even after he knows I strung him along in PMs. I don't think that as scum, his first reaction would be to immediately talk to the guy who just "betrayed" him.

Well if he was scum don't you think it would be his primary goal to convince you that your suspicion is wrong? By refusing to talk to you he certainly would not achieve that.


Yes, that would be his goal. But I have to make a call, and my call is that that post was genuine. This part here:

"Well, I still think you're town (perhaps even more so now, that case felt about right as your town mentality)"

looks very much like a real thought process that actually occured in a town aqua's mind
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2014 10:09 GMT
#1661
On January 13 2014 19:02 justanothertownie wrote:
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On January 13 2014 18:59 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 13 2014 18:56 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 13 2014 18:54 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 13 2014 18:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 13 2014 18:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 13 2014 18:40 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 13 2014 18:31 thrawn2112 wrote:
nvm about aqua... he just came pretty close to town-confirming himself to me

Original Message From Aquanim:
Well, I still think you're town (perhaps even more so now, that case felt about right as your town mentality) so I'm still willing to talk to you - though the fact of the matter is I don't have anything more I want to ask you for now.

Just so's you know.

I don't really get how this confirms him as town in your eyes.

ok

Like would you explain this to me?


We've been talking all game and I've been very friendly in a "i'm town reading you" way, but I've gone back and forth from scum and town reading him without him knowing. All he knew up till I posted my case is that I was probably town reading him based on how I acted in PMs. Then suddenly I reveal my scumread to him and the thread, and he's still interested in talking to me even after he knows I strung him along in PMs. I don't think that as scum, his first reaction would be to immediately talk to the guy who just "betrayed" him.

Well if he was scum don't you think it would be his primary goal to convince you that your suspicion is wrong? By refusing to talk to you he certainly would not achieve that.


Yes, that would be his goal. But I have to make a call, and my call is that that post was genuine. This part here:

"Well, I still think you're town (perhaps even more so now, that case felt about right as your town mentality)"

looks very much like a real thought process that actually occured in a town aqua's mind

Ok... I actually thought your post about him made plenty of sense and I don't see how this pm can't be written by scum.


hmm?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2014 14:35 GMT
#1712
Date: 1/11/14 19:42 Original Message From kushm4sta:
townread
tooscummytobescum

Show nested quote +
Original Message From thrawn2112:
you reading mocsta as town/scum/trolling?

for part two read kush's filter
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2014 20:18 GMT
#1812
dude what are you saying
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2014 20:25 GMT
#1816
On January 14 2014 05:22 LSB Banking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 05:18 thrawn2112 wrote:
dude what are you saying

me?

I don't have have an issue with him smurfing
I have an issue with him being someone smurfs but still doesn't know how to have a good thread presence.

I usually give newbies an easier time on that and don't consider it as critically but he's not. That's what I've been saying.

Coag made it sound I want him dead because he's a smurf which isn't the case.


there are many players in this game who don't have good thread presence who should know better. what about them?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2014 22:27 GMT
#1840
hi i'm seeking kush PMs please PM me
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 14 2014 00:04 GMT
#1891
when he said "does anyone agree with the reads" i think he was referring to the aqua quotes I selected
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 14 2014 00:38 GMT
#1945
yeah i'm voting for gum first thing
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 14 2014 00:41 GMT
#1949
damn lsb u are pretty townie that was a pretty cool reaction test

u help us catch gumshoe, i give you .3 townie points
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 14 2014 01:19 GMT
#2028
On January 14 2014 10:14 LSB wrote:
thrawn2112 The Town Butcher has died!


[image loading]
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 14 2014 01:35 GMT
#2097
scum and obs qt please?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 14 2014 01:39 GMT
#2117
On January 14 2014 10:36 Mocsta wrote:
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On January 14 2014 10:31 justanothertownie wrote:
Easy to say that now, isn't it?

Lol.. its easy to have that opinion. You were hotly discussed in PM land. (and im not just referring to aqunim)


yeah can confirm

first PM game was fun, i kinda wanna say sorry to aqua for stringing you along like that but I was satisfied with the results
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 14 2014 01:48 GMT
#2144
i wish I was scum this game because i infiltrated so many PM circles
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 14 2014 01:57 GMT
#2161
On January 14 2014 10:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 10:54 marvellosity wrote:
rayn and i had several awesome irc moments actually :D

And one terrible.


when you sent me the SRS business pm i opened it, read it, refreshed and I already had PMs from hopeless and BH aksing me for my read on you lmao
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 14 2014 07:11 GMT
#2205
On January 14 2014 16:08 justanothertownie wrote:
How so? Because 6 townies died N1? ^^


yes that was a most excellent set of modkills. very good play on the scum team's part
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 14 2014 07:30 GMT
#2209
well, sign up for the restart
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 08:06:41
January 14 2014 08:01 GMT
#2213
On January 14 2014 17:00 Mocsta wrote:
Pm games fun. But I would be demotivated if I rolled scum in this setup. No interest to play restart.

I dunno if gum would be lynched. He was def pants on head syndrome. Hmm ok. He prob would be lynched but not before derrida


why did it take so long for us to town read each other

edit - might have been due to this



Show nested quote +
Original Message From Mocsta:
Indeed.

What am I sposed to tell my qt when you post my stuff in the thread unknowingly?

Original Message From thrawn2112:
you require that I obtain consent? intersting.

Original Message From Mocsta:
U shared my PMs without my consent.

You're dead after night.

Original Message From thrawn2112:
false

Original Message From Mocsta:
u scummy fucka

Original Message From thrawn2112:
what is your most recent read or thought about an alignment

Original Message From Mocsta:
You werent mentioned in the QT link?

Guess that means we are masons.

Original Message From thrawn2112:
are we masons again? or are you scum?


also did you think i was for real scum claiming to you that one time?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 14 2014 08:22 GMT
#2217
yeah i really liked PMs

Show nested quote +
Original Message From Mocsta:
sweet.. nice work greasing the channels.
Did know you were such a smoozer.

You selling any of this on the black market

Original Message From thrawn2112:
i have a vast source of hard to get information

i've got it all, from 2 hours worth of skype talk from suchdoge, to JAT early game reads, to those hard-to-find WoS reads, i've even got a decent hookup to some kush PMs

just don't tell the authorities


Original Message From Mocsta:
lol.. theres more secrets

well if you told others, feel like betraying them again

Original Message From thrawn2112:
i've probably betrayed the trust of like half the game by now because of PM sharing

but don't worry your secrets are safe with me

"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 14 2014 08:27 GMT
#2220
On January 14 2014 17:18 justanothertownie wrote:
You both were a pain in pms to be honest.


I was nice to you! Mocsta was the baddie
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 14 2014 09:07 GMT
#2230
On January 14 2014 17:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 17:47 Blazinghand wrote:
On January 14 2014 17:27 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 14 2014 17:18 justanothertownie wrote:
You both were a pain in pms to be honest.


I was nice to you! Mocsta was the baddie


I actually really liked thrawn in pms. I became several times more effective this game just from talking to him

This is somehow frightening.

it's true, but we didn't really start talking until right before... uh.........

i did do a lot of PM sharing and I was worried I might get in trouble for it or fuck something up... but these are the people I shared PMs with:

rayn
marv
BH
aqua
WoS
Mocsta
yamato
suchdoge

there might have been a couple others I'm forgetting, but I'm pretty certain I never shared anything to a scum player (apart from sending kush's PMs to vayne) and I never shared anything I considered 'sensitive' to anyone outside of rayn/marv/mocsta/yamato/suchdoge, and BH right before everyone got modkilled. most of the game I watched the thread and when someone was getting attacked I tried to open up to them in PMs to either give them room if they're town, or make them feel at ease in case scum. or if i knew one of my town read's was PMing someone I would PM that person at the same time, doing the same stuff I just mentioned. then I would give the logs to my town reads for them to compare and contrast against their own logs.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 22:02:45
January 14 2014 21:40 GMT
#2257
On January 15 2014 06:13 kushm4sta wrote:
Thrawn knew i was scum instantly. it was pretty scary.



yeah until u propositioned me for sex. at tht point i was fooled the rest of the game until i started wondering why vayne was being cooperative

i also remember being convinced that this was a major town tell for someone who hates rolling scum

On January 12 2014 10:57 VIVAX420 wrote:
ahhhh help! i got banned for posting this in the tlmafia irc thread
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 23:02 kushm4sta wrote:
worst op ever.

User was temp banned for this post.


"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 14 2014 22:04 GMT
#2259
nah I think it was marv via rayne. at the time we talked about it I was already thinking he was town
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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