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Also, how does one pronounce 'doge?' I've always assumed it was 'doje.' | ||
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/confirm Won't be around for deadlines blah blah blah I also am thinking due to comments made today in TS I may attempt a slightly different style. | ||
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On January 11 2014 02:01 marvellosity wrote: yeah I probably won't initiate any PMing this game. I'll just trust that people want to PM me first. Then if they don't I'll complain in the thread about it. Maybe I'll do the same. + Show Spoiler + And then end up not PMing with anyone all game because people don't value my opinion as much as, say, a marv  | ||
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BH now that your campaign has been revealed do you still want me to respond to you? Also regarding your 'lynch kush' platform...call me slightly egocentric but it first seemed to me that it was meant as some sort of bait for me (and maybe others) considering you know very well what my stance on kush is (in which case I'm not entirely sure what you would have hoped to gain from such a bait---maybe just a read on me?), and then I received your PM so I'm going to assume it was solely a conversation starter because you know very well in all the time I've ever campaigned against kush it never goes my way, and all of the times you've ever campaigned for policy it never goes your way. DrH's entry and campaign is extremely strong, I'll give him that. I am withholding my vote until I see what the choices are and who else is going to attempt to seriously run and how the day progresses. DrH can I ask you specifically about your 'pressure hammer' strategy: how do you expect to deal with Suspect 'C' regarding pressuring them if they avoid you if they simply fuck off and don't return, rather than attempt to give you a defense and fail? | ||
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So....you're voting me for mayor? | ||
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I haven't announced my intent to campaign. Is there a reason I have your vote and you apparently trust me over DrH and all of the other people who are actually trying for mayor? | ||
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On January 11 2014 15:42 Mocsta wrote: Yes because you rolled town. being confirmed town, why wouldnt i vote for you? Even were I confirmed town, how do you know I will use the mayoral powers effectively? | ||
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I would think that you should. I'm not entirely certain that it will be enough in this game for the mayoral role to go to someone people believe/assume is town alone---it may be important that the role rightfully goes to someone who will effectively get scum lynched; that is, someone with strong reads and convictions but who will also be able to defer to the town and/or take advice when necessary. I am actually interested in other people's thoughts on this matter: would it simply be enough to give the mayor role to someone who was theoretically confirmed town but may or may not use the role to great effect? And another question specifically for you, Mocsta. I am currently in contact with somebody who believes that you may be trolling with that vote. Is that true? | ||
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On January 11 2014 16:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote: If someone disappeared from the thread after being accused and ignored the hammer threat completely, I'd try to swing the vote on them and ride the day out to avoid cutting it short but id drop it right away if it seemed like the bandwagon would change I don't think I understand. What do you mean by 'dropping it,' and if the bandwagon would change to what? Do you mean off of the threatened person or onto him? | ||
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As it is getting very late I am off to bed for the night. To my current conversation partners, we shall continue at a later date. I bid you all adieu. | ||
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I was thinking of entering the thread announcing my candidacy for the mayorship but at this point with the withdrawal of DrH, replacements showing up and more people adding their names to the running I don't feel it would be a beneficial choice right now. Yamato I'm thinking of going with you tomorrow. | ||
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On January 12 2014 09:45 marvellosity wrote: if you were to theoretically run, what would your platform have been, wave? I'm glad you asked, actually. I had originally thought (and confided to my current PM-buddies) that I shouldn't run because my scumreads are generally not particularly good on D1, but then I remembered a few things. First of all, something from the discussion we had in A Quiet Game postgame struck me at some point today, namely the section where people were discussing how most people are too afraid to be assertive/make mistakes, which would probably have been the primary reason why I would have been afraid to run. Worried about not using the power properly, worried about a bad read and effectively solo-lynching town causing them to turn on me and waste more time, etc. A combination of this realization (and maybe a bit of an ego/power trip remnant from last night's Voice Mafia games) made me think that it's long since time to ditch that attitude. I've been playing on mafia for long enough that I should be more confident in my abilities and stop falling back into bad habits (like conspiracy theories, my constant wrong reads on newbie players). I should play to my strengths, such as the fact that in nearly every game I can think of, I am very easy to read and despite having detractors and people who will always be suspicious one way or another, I am always considered town by the majority by D2 at the very latest. Whereas in the past I have been content on D1 to sit back, call people town and wait for scumreads to fall into my lap on subsequent days, through discussion with people in PMs I believe I have some scumreads that are evolving quite nicely and I have at the very least a couple people that I would feel comfortable lynching right now. I know I am town, I am confident in my abilities to confirm myself as town to the doubters, and I am also confident in my reads. I would not let this town down as its mayor. It's not the best platform around, and especially now that there are more and different players running for office (despite the instilled confidence, I still believe some of these players are better than I am; I'm not naive) I am completely comfortable in giving up the chance---however the confidence will remain. | ||
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On January 12 2014 09:58 yamato77 wrote: If you're scum after that emotional blab, I'm never playing with you again. I'd suggest ditching dick move analysis; it's proven to be ineffective as of late. I will however appeal to you personally; you can take it as you will. Knowing what you know of me, my playstyle, and my attitude towards mafia and rules in general, I think you can draw the proper conclusions. Now if people are interested in my scumreads (and you should be), I'm thinking primarily suchdoge for starters. I have been in discussion with a few players in PMs (I won't reveal who I'm talking to with regards to specific conversations unless I believe it's absolutely necessary---they can reveal themselves if they so choose) and one player got me thinking about suchdoge's identity. I won't really bother guessing (even though we both guessed the same person) because basing a scumread solely on that (and as a result, meta) would be terrible but if other people have any guesses you may want to keep those in mind or alternatively you can PM me and I will discuss that section with you. Suchdoge: His massive entry post that said the same thing about the mayoral election that I already did earlier in thread, and then promoted marv and mig as good candidates for election despite the fact that marv (at the time) was barely playing this game (although I can't be certain about PMs) and I'm assuming Mig hasn't shown up yet (and from what I saw in PYP I'm not particularly impressed with his play). The rest of his filter (and he HAS one, unlike others) was shitting on the main and strongest mayoral prospect and talking about how he can't PM. I would be curious to know what interactions people have had with him in PM/IRC-land because I have spoken to people with conflicting reads here. It is my belief that such an entry into the thread, not offering anything particularly useful other than the offering up of mayoral candidates that can widely be accepted as 'good players' if they decide to run is nothing more than a safe and neutral play under the guise of effort, a perfect scum opener. The rest of his filter does not lead me to believe he has town's best interests in mind (despite some people currently agreeing with DrH not being the best mayoral prospect, including DrH himself) as he promoted negativity without offering something positive and realistic in return. Also now that marv HAS announced his potential candidacy I would like to see how he will react. | ||
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On January 12 2014 10:05 marvellosity wrote: it's more that Wos and I work very well together when we're both town and we both acknowledge this, so I'm pretty curious why he wouldn't approach me if he's hashing things out with other 'PM buddies' I agree with you marv, but I stated at the beginning of the game two things: that I'd be trying something a little new this game, and, having never played a PM game before I'd rather let players come to me, similar to what you stated you'd be doing. I do agree with your sentiment, and we DO tend to work very well together marv, but you also know how naturally untrusting I am, and without the rest of the thread to tell me not to be paranoid about you (if you ARE in fact townin PM-land, I'm not sure how useful it would be---in my mind it may simply open myself up to be manipulated even more. That being said I would love to discuss reads with you if you'll send me a PM, just keep my current attitude and reservations in mind. For similar reasons to the above as well, I would not currently be comfortable voting you for mayor. | ||
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marv I'm not sure I like that excuse. Is it ever a good idea to fish like that if it forces a reveal? I feel like your ego aside, you value proper play and if your fishing truly caused this, I don't think it was proper play at all. | ||
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On January 12 2014 10:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote: forcing a claim out of you is ideal anyway tbh Why, exactly? Were you planning on tunneling this to the ends of the earth? | ||
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On January 12 2014 11:00 Blazinghand wrote: this is part of why i'm suspicious of marv. i just don't see town marv putting his ego aside. town marv would just believe himself Pretty much.... lol BH just once you gotta try to play normally. I mean I love the crazy shenannies your play causes but I can't remember it turning out in your favour very often. | ||
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On January 12 2014 11:01 marvellosity wrote: how did my fishing cause BH's godawful play? how does that even make sense? Well...indirectly I suppose, but given that this is a PM game it seems logical to assume that nothing you post in PMs is TRULY private, so I feel like you must have known it was likely for BH to out your fishing attempts to someone else. | ||
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It wouldn't be me if I wasn't at least a little bad. I get what you're saying but it's never quite so cut and dry from my perspective. You should know this by now. | ||
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On January 12 2014 11:05 marvellosity wrote: but it should be if you engage but an ounce of your considerable brainpower i dare you Good old marv. King of skirting the line between flattery and insults. <3 Don't you worry your pretty head though, I have bigger doges to fry, as it were. How do you feel about having one of our pow-wow sessions out in the open? | ||
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On January 12 2014 11:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote: let's talk about how derrida is scum I get bitten in the ass a lot on newbie tells so whereas once I'd say he screams town, now it's probably only a whisper. I 'll just sit back and listen to you first, DrH. And marv, just let me know when.  | ||
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On January 12 2014 11:13 yamato77 wrote: Or BC But he SHOULD play more soon. I have no doubt that BC is telling the truth as either alignment. Do you think he's scum yamato? | ||
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On January 12 2014 11:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote: talking about it in irc right now, will you get on irc i'd like to talk to you in particular actually. i have confidence that if you are town it will be productive Don't have it on this computer. Give me a bit. | ||
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You've thrown a bunch of names around as to who you might want to kill---BH, Hopeless, VE now, people who don't contribute in the thread... I want to know where you're headed with the lynch long before it happens and I want it to be consistent. Can you do that? | ||
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I'm really tempted to pick up the reins here now that yamato has dropped out (and why, exactly?) because I have zero faith or trust in Rayn this game and don't want the mayor role to default onto him. Marv I'm 50/50 on you right now, so let's chat while I have the chance. At the moment the only thing stopping me from actually running is the fact that I won't be around for deadlines and a large part of today specifically, which wouldn't exactly be fair to what would be my loyal constituents, now would it? VE please take your vote off me so I'm not tempted any further. I've said it before and I'll say it again---I get burned on newbie reads a lot, unfortunately, but that doesn't mean I have to like what is going on with Derrida. I simply don't think he is scum despite the similarities between his opening post here and in his scum game and I certainly don't like that he appears to be an easy 'default' lynch for people to fall back on. Rayn announced he'd vote for him (to assist him in winning, no doubt) and now marv has done the same---it seems today's lynch has already been chosen despite all the talk that's going to go on for the next few hours, no? | ||
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On January 12 2014 21:41 marvellosity wrote: In all honesty town has a much higher chance of winning this game with me as mayor than as anyone else. That's a simple fact. If you're town. And you knew that was coming so don't start with me. Your interactions during the BH debacle made me feel a little better (but as I've said to many people, I've never seen a scum marv so I don't really know what to expect in that regard), including what you and DrH believe to be irrefutable proof that you're town (informing BH of your 'bluefishing' attempts). What I don't like so much is how you started off the game. I know you tend to start slow and pick things up over time, but surely you knew directly from the start the people were likely to turn to you one way or the other as you're often seen as an extremely strong town leader, so why bother with the charade of 'if' you run for mayor? Apparently suchdoge knew it was an inevitability (this is not association, just an example). Maybe it's coincidence or egotism talking but your primary lynches for the day just so happen to be between what Rayn (and much of the thread) recently announced his to be, and what I announced mine to be a while ago. What other reads do you have? Who would you lynch if it couldn't be one of those two? This stuff for starters, then mabes we gets a nice conversation going. | ||
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On January 12 2014 21:43 marvellosity wrote: Kinda wavering on my early town read of Xatalos too. I have Xatalos as town. If anything the early part of his filter looks worse than the latter part to me so I'm not sure why an early townread. | ||
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On January 12 2014 21:53 marvellosity wrote: The stuff with BH makes me practically confirmed town with anyone with a piece between their ears. I'm happy to repeat it because it's really kind of obvious. I also never, never get this vague accusation that's often levelled against me of starting off the game slow. It's sooooo soooooo easy to start off the game "fast" as mafia. Because you don't have to find the truth, you can just say something that looks pretty. Surely you must understand this? By the way, Derrida isn't "rayn's" lynch per se - he and I were basically talking about Derrida all yesterday before he even posted, and I said something like "Never has a player managed to look so bad without having posted yet - it's quite a feat!" - rayn will back me up on any of this. Like I said I'm getting kinda interested in Xatalos. I had a townread on him early on because he PMed me really soon after the game started asking me why I wasn't running and generally being kinda aggressive towards me. Which would be kind of a risky thing for Xatalos to do I guess. The problem is subsequently (unlike almost every other player who I shared PMs with at the start of the game) he has not made contact with me at all. DrH didn't like his big reads type post which I said I was fine with, except for one bit, and that's now increasingly bugging me: suchdoge is supicious suchdoge disappeared ask question about PMs that suchdoge already clarified want suchdoge to post suchdoge impossible to read but don't think mafia would play like this It's the final qualifier that looks really bad here What about that looks bad specifically? To me I would think that only looks bad if they're both scum. A scum Xatalos-->town suchdoge? Sounds like a gift for scum to me and kinda stupid to garner towncred on it. | ||
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On January 12 2014 22:01 suchdoge wrote: WoS I don't understand why you don't like the way things have been going lately. By the way you worded that it almost sounds as if you don't want marv as mayor, which makes very little sense except as scum attempting to subtly discredit marv. Care to explain what exactly you are not happy with? ##vote marvellosity lol subtly Welcome to the thread. Who have you been talking to, because I assume in your extended absence you must have had some conversations and reads going. | ||
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On January 12 2014 22:01 marvellosity wrote: What are you talking about? There's literally no point in spending a bunch of sentences shovelling shit on to someone only to end it with "but i don't think mafia would do this after all" it's a totally pointless post which basically just says stuff for the sake of saying stuff because of how the conclusion ends up. Xatalos does this silly either.... or.... as mafia like this constantly. A bunch of sentences? I count like one, where he simply states facts. One of the sentences is him asking suchdoge to come back so he can try to read him, and then the final one is offering his own opinion to the matter. I see it unmistakeably with the proof of the second one, but are you completely certain he does not do this as town? To me it sounds like a thought process coming across. Yes it is a mafia thought process but one nonetheless---I know when I played scum I personally found it extremely easy to 'pretend' I was town and mimic my usual town thought processes. | ||
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On January 12 2014 22:09 marvellosity wrote: There is a way, although I find it pretty unlikely. He still won't lie about Xata's meta though :p The question was technically unrelated (in my mind) but I do appreciate the clarification. I think part of my reservations stem from the fact that things feel a little more out-of-my-control than usual, which is obviously to be expected, and I am always reluctant to give up control to strong players who I have trouble trusting (especially rayn. You I often come around to ). As is I could probably attempt to fight you and Rayn for mayor but as I said I won't have the time today and ultimately I do believe that there are people who could do a better job than me. I just hate that feeling of 'default.' I feel robbed of the choice I felt I had earlier in the day. I will feel infinitely better once one of you is right about something I was wrong about (as does tend to happen in these games).Marv are you on irc? Rayn you attempted to contact me last night and then disappeared. I wouldn't mind knowing what it was exactly you wanted to discuss. | ||
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On January 12 2014 22:13 suchdoge wrote: marv pretty much. No one else has bothered to Skype me, which is the only thing that I can use as long as I have no PC (for like 1-2 days maybe?) suchdogemlg420 IRC doesn't work cause it requires me to be constantly present. Skype works more like text messaging although the app is kinda buggy. My 5 PMs have been refreshed though so I've responded to DH and I will be reaching out to VE and whomever else strikes my fancy. Also as a public notice the following players did not respond to my PMs from the first 24 hours: BC CaptainObvious BH Mig So, only marv responded and other than that only DH actually bothered to reach out to me. Of the above players BH and CO are actually scummy since they were in the thread and provably not afk for some time. I would think then it would be in yours and more importantly, town's best interests to post in the thread rather than simply expect people to come to you. Do you have reads? | ||
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Probably it for the day Will explain later if people require ##vote:marv | ||
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Marv I can't fucking believe how hard you are misrepresenting me right now. I flat out told you that I have a hard time trusting you and am suspicious of you and you say I'm not? And all of a sudden the whole fucking thread nearly gets together to lynch me at the last second while I'm fucking afk? Aside from the fucking lot of you all saying 'oh well his filter looks scummy' WHICH ONE OF YOU ACTUALLY WROTE A FUCKING CASE? WHO HAS SOME FUCKING SCUM PROOF? WHO HAS SOME ANALYSIS? Nobody, that's who. Some fucking horseshit going on right here. Marv congratulations on being right about Xatalos, maybe before some moron shoots VE you should remember what I said to you about him. People fucking lumping me into the same group as Derrida wtf is that. I'll be back later tonight once I've calmed down and had a chance to relax. I just typed out a long paragraph about where I was but fuck that, you people don't deserve it. | ||
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On January 13 2014 09:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote: And this heated after we scumlynch day 1 I had a real shit day DrH. I don't really give a shit how people interpret that post, I meant every word of it. And of all people to rag on me about being overemotional it's YOU? What a joke. Later. | ||
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Have fucking fun. Can give you thrawn and yamato if you want too. Original Message From VisceraEyes: I'm down to IRC or whatever. I didn't bring it to the thread for that reason - because I can also see DocH doing this as town maybe if it is him going all emo. My vote is on you because I think you'll do your hardest to find a good lynch and lynch it. You're putting in way more effort into fooling me than I think you would if you were scum, but that's just my feels reason. You're PMs with me seem to have a genuine concern for trying to figure out other peoples' alignments, and you don't seem evasive about anything. That's why my vote is on you - because I think you're town and because in the end I'm confident in your commitment to the game if you win. If you're not running just let me know and I'll find another candidate, but I think you'll do fine for this game. | ||
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These occur before the last set. Original Message From VisceraEyes: Well you should probably already know that it wouldn't matter even if you did tell them that | ||
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This means it's a mafia thought process because he was playing mafia at the time he made it. I suppose I should have clarified/differentiated but whatever. What I was getting at was it is entirely possible and easy (at least for me) to mimic town thought processes as mafia. | ||
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In this point I;m pretty sure that I'm being vigged and I'm ok with that honestly, scumlynch D1, scum down to 2 KP and marvmayor means we're in damn good shape. Faked irc logs wooooooo + Show Spoiler + [01:39] <VisceraEyes> Ohhello [01:39] <WaveofShadow> ive completely forgotten how to use this shit [01:39] <WaveofShadow> lol [01:39] <VisceraEyes> You got the important bit I think. [01:39] <WaveofShadow> lol [01:40] <WaveofShadow> so dat slam vote [01:40] <VisceraEyes> Indeed. [01:40] <VisceraEyes> Maybe he just lookin for a hero [01:41] <WaveofShadow> you can be his hero baby [01:41] <WaveofShadow> you can kiss away his pain [01:41] <VisceraEyes> Not trying to read Alak yet. I think more information would bring clarity with that guy. [01:41] <WaveofShadow> i refuse to bother [01:41] <WaveofShadow> i hop ehe gets vigged and done with [01:42] <VisceraEyes> Ya. [01:42] <VisceraEyes> So [01:42] <WaveofShadow> and the worst part is if he isnt he'll sit till LYLO [01:42] <VisceraEyes> You have bad reasons for being suspicious of Mocsta? [01:42] <VisceraEyes> Let's hear them. [01:42] <WaveofShadow> lol [01:42] <WaveofShadow> well can i ask you one thing first? [01:42] <WaveofShadow> what do you make of his very latest post? [01:43] <VisceraEyes> Ehhhh [01:43] <VisceraEyes> That's a good question [01:44] <VisceraEyes> The one about Bum PM him? [01:44] <WaveofShadow> oh [01:44] <WaveofShadow> no the one before that [01:45] <WaveofShadow> also are you talking to thrawn right now? [01:45] <VisceraEyes> Yes about thrawn [01:47] <WaveofShadow> what are your thoughts on him? I am considering attempting to initiate 3way conversation (is that even possible on irc?) [01:47] <WaveofShadow> oh actually is that even allowed? [01:47] <WaveofShadow> probably not... [01:47] <VisceraEyes> Sure it's allowed as long as you assume it's really him or whatever. We can just make our own channel. [01:48] <WaveofShadow> i know its him based on how he's talking to me [01:49] <WaveofShadow> are you in for a sexy sexy 3 way then? [01:50] <VisceraEyes> Sure [01:50] <VisceraEyes> Um [01:50] <WaveofShadow> um? [01:50] <VisceraEyes> What channel name? [01:50] <WaveofShadow> can we just create a channel? [01:51] <VisceraEyes> /join #ANSWERDAPHONE [01:51] <WaveofShadow> lol [01:51] <@VisceraEyes> Have you talked to rayn at all? [01:52] <WaveofShadow> no [01:52] <WaveofShadow> im not sure if i plan to [01:52] <@VisceraEyes> Why not? [01:52] <WaveofShadow> thrawn says he wants to confirm if its ok with host first [01:52] <WaveofShadow> uh because i dont think id be able to tell if I was being manipulated [01:53] <WaveofShadow> and i rarely trust rayn [01:53] <WaveofShadow> as is [01:56] <WaveofShadow> so regarding mocsta [01:56] <WaveofShadow> you still around? [02:01] <@VisceraEyes> Yes [02:01] <@VisceraEyes> Sorry was filtering Mocsta [02:02] <WaveofShadow> how did it go [02:04] <@VisceraEyes> Most of it is god awful [02:04] <WaveofShadow> yup [02:04] <@VisceraEyes> Like he says a lot of things [02:04] <@VisceraEyes> But I never know what he's being serious about and what he's just being a pompous jerk about [02:05] <WaveofShadow> he was trolling hardcore literally until he said /trolling [02:05] <WaveofShadow> for example [02:05] <WaveofShadow> the post where he said he can tell someone's alignment based on voice inflection? [02:05] <WaveofShadow> he was making fun of me because I said that yesterday in voice mafia [02:05] <WaveofShadow> when i fucking CRUSHED his scumteam [02:05] <@VisceraEyes> Ugh [02:06] <@VisceraEyes> Who is he suspicious of? [02:06] <WaveofShadow> mocsta? fuck if I know [02:07] <@VisceraEyes> suchdoge [02:07] <@VisceraEyes> Which [02:07] <WaveofShadow> i was willing to bet he was demoralized scum until he stopped trolling [02:07] <WaveofShadow> im referring to mocsta [02:07] <@VisceraEyes> And why? [02:07] <@VisceraEyes> But demoralized how [02:07] <WaveofShadow> he played like ass in Really Small [02:07] <WaveofShadow> was just lynched [02:08] <@VisceraEyes> Oh [02:08] <@VisceraEyes> As scum? [02:08] <WaveofShadow> he played like ass in this game and that one at the same time basically [02:08] <@VisceraEyes> Was he scum in Really Small? [02:08] <WaveofShadow> and I think he may have been posting a little angry from voice yesterday [02:08] <WaveofShadow> yes [02:08] <WaveofShadow> so that's my really bad reason [02:08] <@VisceraEyes> That's not really bad [02:08] <@VisceraEyes> It's meta [02:08] <@VisceraEyes> But it's not really bad [02:09] <WaveofShadow> im bad at meta [02:09] <@VisceraEyes> Just not admissible without corroborating thread evidence [02:09] <WaveofShadow> it seems weird to consider voice mafia results in determining this game's alignment as well [02:09] <WaveofShadow> just too nebulous [02:09] <WaveofShadow> bordering on gutread status [02:09] <@VisceraEyes> Yeah [02:09] <@VisceraEyes> But [02:09] <@VisceraEyes> He's playing like ass this game [02:09] <WaveofShadow> he is [02:09] <@VisceraEyes> So like what do you do? [02:09] <WaveofShadow> i REALLY want to know wtf that 2nd last post of his was though] [02:09] <@VisceraEyes> Well [02:10] <WaveofShadow> i can ask yamato actually [02:10] <WaveofShadow> brb a sec [02:14] <WaveofShadow> k back [02:14] <@VisceraEyes> I mean, he seems to be browbeating Aquanim for defending Derrida before Derrida can defend himself...but the thing is, what's the point? Does he think Aqua is suspicious for it? Does he agree that Derr is scummy? Why is he white-knighting the Derrida suspicion? [02:14] <WaveofShadow> dont know. i dont get what mocsta's doing in this game [02:14] <WaveofShadow> i also don't like how many people are just assuming rayn.marv are town btw [02:14] <WaveofShadow> rayn/marv* [02:15] <@VisceraEyes> I'm suspicious of both of them [02:15] <@VisceraEyes> So I agree with you there. [02:15] <@VisceraEyes> marv is being weird in PMs. [02:15] <WaveofShadow> so i have heard [02:15] <@VisceraEyes> Well, consider it confirmed by me. [02:15] <WaveofShadow> haha [02:15] <WaveofShadow> see now im not sure of what to do [02:16] <@VisceraEyes> What do you mean? [02:16] <@VisceraEyes> Whether to run for mayor or not? [02:16] <WaveofShadow> knowing that me you and thrawn are more or less on the same page as stuff (except for maybe voting yamato) [02:16] <WaveofShadow> yeah [02:16] <WaveofShadow> about stuff i mean [02:16] <@VisceraEyes> I could maybe vote Yamato, but he really wants to lynch BH and it's because he doesn't like playing with BH, not because he thinks BH is scum. [02:16] <WaveofShadow> like...what do you really think he is going to do? [02:17] <WaveofShadow> he cant lych BH now [02:17] <@VisceraEyes> Well outside of that it's hard saying what he'll do - BH is the only person he's been super vocal about wanting dead. [02:17] <WaveofShadow> really? hmm. I may have to talk to him about that as well. [02:19] <WaveofShadow> ugh [02:19] <WaveofShadow> look he posted [02:22] <@VisceraEyes> Oh look, now he's magically suspicious of me. [02:22] <@VisceraEyes> Why? Because I said one thing he didn't like [02:22] <@VisceraEyes> SURPRISE!!! [02:23] <WaveofShadow> lol [02:24] <WaveofShadow> I appealed to him in public rather than through PMs because Im hoping to garner some reaction from a few specific people [02:24] <WaveofShadow> i believe my post is controversial enough [02:26] <WaveofShadow> coags prob town...agree/disagree? [02:26] <WaveofShadow> also what of kush cause i wont try to read that guy either @VisceraEyesWav ircwithve.txt 1 of 1 Couple random things for when I die---got a bunch of PMs from people asking to talk---appreciate it but I doubt that will be happening before deadline. The PM I got from Koshi was literally just him calling me scum and nothing else---I assume it's meant to taunt me, cause me to rage and shitstorm in thread so watch out for him imo. Also important to remember Koshi isn't bad and I can't remember anything memorable he has done this game aside from throw suspicion on me. Subject was simple 'Hi scum WoS' So, Why so scummy? Just in case yall don't believe me, after I die you will. As I've said to others I am completely confident in my ability to fight a lynch (on in this case vig) but I'm completely demotivated and don't feel like railing against it in my usual way. Too much effort, and I have way too much going on atm. GL ladies. | ||
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On January 14 2014 10:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: It's not that, the WoS thing was so crap. You call me scum every game and every game you're wrong. I had a lot going on over the past few days---a few people know about it but I didn't want to make excuses for myself in thread. | ||
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