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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 13 2014 01:16 GMT
#1581
On January 13 2014 09:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
Can give you thrawn and yamato if you want too.

Please do.
table for two on a tv tray
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 13 2014 01:16 GMT
#1582
On January 11 2014 09:13 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 09:10 Blazinghand wrote:
Make me mayor and I'll lynch kush d1.

/thread


I don't really think you're a good candidate. Last time around you were confirmed town and just went all-in on a lurker. You might do the same thing here, as town or scum, and it would be a one-way ticket for a loss.

This kinda ties in with BH mason claim ringing true.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 13 2014 01:16 GMT
#1583
Also IRC logs would be nice too.
table for two on a tv tray
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 13 2014 01:18 GMT
#1584
On January 11 2014 12:01 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 11:44 Aquanim wrote:
Hi. I have no desire to be mayor. There, that's out of the way.

On January 11 2014 11:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Until someone provides a real reason to be elected they shouldn't be considered.

What do you consider a real reason to be elected?



Why do you have no desire to become a Mayor?

This is an odd post for Xat to make, considering his approach to BH regarding mayor candidacy.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 13 2014 01:21 GMT
#1585
On January 12 2014 01:35 Xatalos wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
rayn: you never answered about why you would have blues claim to an unconfirmed Mayor. Why?

I really dislike BH's sudden switch from all-in on kush to supporting DrH. He claims to still lobby for lynching kush, but his attitude is different from Titanic II, where he went all-in on xigxag (a lurker). He's much less vocal about his preferred tunnel and partly drops it very suddenly. I disagree with his tunneling attitude in general, but more strongly I dislike his quick attitude switch and the weak conviction behind the original tunnel.

Aquanim looks shady from what little there is in his filter. He claims disinterest in becoming a Mayor, makes some general one-liner questions and then these:

On January 11 2014 22:09 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Agreed with Mocsta, suchdoge is the scummiest person in the thread.

D'you reckon you can explain this to me? That long post of his looks like it was written pregame, and therefore doesn't tell me much regarding his alignment. He's also expressed a desire to talk with people (specifically VE) which isn't the most intuitive thing I'd expect a scum smurf to do.

If he thinks that long post is sufficient contribution for the day I'll agree with you that he's likely scum - but I don't see any reason to believe yet that there won't be more material forthcoming from him.

Is there anything else making you lean scum on him? Convince me.


On January 11 2014 22:22 Aquanim wrote:
Yeah OK lemme rephrase that. I don't think you wrote the post pregame, but it contains next to no commitments to what you think anybody's alignments are, which would make my read on you much more solid. Now if you're still playing games in PMs and trying to work out people's alingments, and you don't want to reveal your work yet, that's fine - but I'm hoping that sooner or later you will show your working, so to speak.


A really lackluster and factually false first argument, then a barely better follow-up. This is as non-committal as can be. I see this much more likely coming from scum than town. I had the impression that Aquanim was supposed to be good as town?

I also really dislike mkfuba07's entrance into the thread:

On January 11 2014 12:32 mkfuba07 wrote:
Hiya :D

I, as well, am not running for mayor.

If I had to vote now, it would likely be for DrH. At the moment it's much a gut feeling, but it was my thought before reading BH's PM. I like his promises if he is going to keep them, even though I'm sure they would be directed at me at some point because of the way I play. Now I just need to make sure I feel he's going to keep them.

BH, is there a reason you cut off a bit of your PM when you copied it?


This is an extremely safe opening post that doesn't really say anything. It looks constructed with a greeting, a short show of support for the most reasonable Mayor campaigner at the time, and a trivial question at the end. Then complete silence.

suchdoge had a big opening post that said a lot of nothing. Then he proceeded to disappear into TeamSpeak or something. suchdoge, you can't use PM's anymore? If so, I really want you to post in the thread. You're impossible to read as of now. With that said, I doubt scum would just completely disappear from the thread like that.
hmm take that back.
Looks like he really tried to shit on aquanim based on the mayor thing.

Carry on ignoring me pls.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 13 2014 01:33 GMT
#1586
I think we can pretty safely say hopeless1 and i are conftown
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 13 2014 01:44 GMT
#1587
Good hit marv.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 13 2014 01:46 GMT
#1588
It was almost you buddy. Gimme more :<
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 13 2014 01:50 GMT
#1589
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I will soon.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 13 2014 01:51 GMT
#1590
FWIW though, my alignment SHOULD be clear to anyone paying attention.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 13 2014 01:52 GMT
#1591
Make soon sooner than it's been so far.

And I have been paying attention and your alignment is not clear.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 13 2014 01:52 GMT
#1592
Alright im home finally, anyone here to discuss stuff
I come in for the scraps
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 13 2014 01:54 GMT
#1593
Like the passivity of your filter is actually terrifiying, VE. No pop, no scumreads. It's depressing
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
suchdoge
Profile Joined January 2014
Guatemala91 Posts
January 13 2014 01:55 GMT
#1594
On January 13 2014 10:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
FWIW though, my alignment SHOULD be clear to anyone paying attention.


duh of course you're scum. I think we all figured that by now.
Wow
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 13 2014 01:56 GMT
#1595
It doesn't make me scum though. *shrug*
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 13 2014 01:57 GMT
#1596
It might do.

I don't see how you can claim it's obvious you're town. why do you say so?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 13 2014 01:58 GMT
#1597
On January 12 2014 22:47 Xatalos wrote:
thrawn:

+ Show Spoiler +
It's actually been a while. We haven't been in contact after the start of the day.

Would you care to share your reasoning for having me in your "naughty list"? I agree with Derrida and Koshi though. Derrida opened with an easy-to-fake and useless listpost, has had zero interest in finding scum, has similarities with his last scumgame and now folds under pressure. Koshi has played so lazy and useless that he's probably not town. He's capable of much better. Only thing I'm unsure about is that he played a very active scumgame in Nuclear Winter Mafia, and he was very hard to catch, but here he's almost too scummy.

I'm puzzled by suchdoge's disappearance as well as VE's PM behaviour. VE hasn't answered my PM's and apparently suspects marv/Mocsta in his PM's with Aquanim, yet shares no reasoning. Have you PM'd with VE?

BH is almost certainly a Mason or even if he isn't, a fakeclaim will be found out later on. So I guess my suspicions about BH are pretty much useless to talk about now.

Original Message From thrawn2112:
Hi again, I'd like an up to date version of your thoughts on the game, and am wondrin if you have any reads you'd like to talk about?


jat:

+ Show Spoiler +
You've pretty much shared no reads in the thread and even posted this:

"Well the reason for this is probably that some of those reads were indeed formed on the spot. I did not think deeply about all of the persons on your list and had to think about what my actual opinion on some of them is."

How involved in finding scum are you really? Who are your 3 top scumreads?


VE:

+ Show Spoiler +
Why did you never reply to my PM despite posting in the thread?

Apparently you suspect marv/Mocsta? Do you have any reasoning for that?


rayn:

+ Show Spoiler +
You never answered to my latest PM? Mostly about the possible faults with a massclaim.

What do you think of marv as Mayor?

Have you PM'd with VE?


Aquanim:

+ Show Spoiler +
I just had a worrying thought about marv. He claimed to me earlier that he would definitely run for Mayor as scum. Then he referenced an earlier game where he was hesitant to run for Mayor as town.

What if he planned around that by being hesitant at first and then running anyway as scum? He's a skilled player so I don't think it would be impossible for him to think of a plan like that.

Then there's also the fact of his very passive responses in PM's earlier.

Otherwise he's felt towny, but I'm not sure if I'm ready to completely trust him yet.

Original Message From Aquanim:
Yeah, I'm inclined to agree with you about JAT that it's probably better to give him more time. I'm getting the definite impression that his early-game is weak.

I've seen nothing more from VE than what I posted in the thread. It seems entirely unlike his towngame to be this reticient, but it's conceivable he's making some big play in PMs or some such. In any case he's probably a bad lynch today on the "don't-lynch-vets-day-1 principle" so I'm happy to let that lie for now.

I'd love to have a more confident lynch than Derrida but at this point it's looking like he's the best lynch and not too terrible a choice.

D'you have a read on Marv? My guess is he's town - I'm not certain, but I'd prefer to take that risk (in terms of handing out mayor) than to go with the guaranteed clusterf*** that a Rayn mayoralty would be. (The only game I've played with him was Back to the Basics in which he royally screwed the town over as town. He and I don't have a high opinion of one another, if you haven't noticed that already.)

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Original Message From Xatalos:
jat has mostly posted one-liners about random stuff and hasn't appeared to focus on scumhunting so far. I also really dislike this post:

"Well the reason for this is probably that some of those reads were indeed formed on the spot. I did not think deeply about all of the persons on your list and had to think about what my actual opinion on some of them is."

Reactive much?

Still, apparently he's a slow starter, so I think it's better to wait for him to start doing stuff. I think I'll chat with him soon to see if he's more transparent in PM's.

It's actually kind of funny that I started suspecting you a bit earlier and people similarly told me that you're a slow starter. And now you've started posting quite a bit. I like most of your later posts so maybe the same will be true for jat as well.

Apparently BH is Mason...? Well, at least he won't be a distraction anymore then.

Derrida definitely seems scummy from his (short) filter. 1) Zero interest in scumhunting 2) easy to fake listpost 3) similarities with his previous scumgame 4) folding under pressure.

I'm curious about VE. He hasn't responded to my PM's (despite me PM'ing him long before I went to sleep) and I have no idea what he's doing in PM land. Looking at your discussion with him he thinks Mocsta and marv are scum? Has there been any reasoning for that?

Original Message From Aquanim:
Heya, I'd like to have a bit of a chat with you.

As a starting point, what's your read on justanothertownie so far and why?

If you have anything you'd like to ask me, go ahead.

cheers
~Aqua



first major thing that pops out to me when going over his filter, was he in contact with anyone else? this could clear up quite a bit.

This list shouldn't be considered for lynch for quite a bit imo, It didn't look like he was going to get lynched until towards the end of the day so he wouldn't have known to try to trick us or anything. all of these correspondants are town I think
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 13 2014 02:04 GMT
#1598
besides that just looks like a typical scum day 1 filter. lots of questions that lead nowhere and general bleh
I come in for the scraps
suchdoge
Profile Joined January 2014
Guatemala91 Posts
January 13 2014 02:14 GMT
#1599
nah he'd be dumb to not list any of his teammates.

You can't read into people when they don't reply. That's the easiest type of log to fake, because there's nothing to fake aside from a single outgoing PM.

That post says nothing aside from Aqua and thrawn likely being town.
Wow
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 13 2014 02:18 GMT
#1600
I'm not going to be dumb enough to assume that nobody Xatalos PMd or claimed to PM is mafia. Weird that instead of calling me scum and pressuring me in a reply to my PM or in the thread he tells WoS that he could "probably get me lynched" then comes out with a weak/nullish read about it
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