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Excuse me for not wanting to jump to conclusions Doc.
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Why? Do you think it would be impulsive for some reason to reply to me or reveal what you see as a scummy PM to the thread? You already jumped to the conclusion that you could get me lynched if you wanted which is a weird perspective for a townie to have.
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the last thing I'd do if someone PM'd me something scummy is ignore it, PM someone else about it, tell them I think I can bandwagon but I'm not sure of their alignment (why would you be thinking about lynching a null read) and then try to get their read on it before I do anything
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ve.. why are you making an effort to be scummy
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hmm I just feel like faking pms with partners would be a bit of an afterthought on day 1. oh well nevermind then
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he didn't post logs for everything you know
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11589 Posts
someone catch me up, I'm tired
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we killed scum, ez game, go to bed
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11589 Posts
who killed who?
(mayor, lynchee)
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marv killed xatalos or however you spell it
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11589 Posts
why did he kill xat? did xat scumslip or something?
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no idea tbh, from what I understand he just talked with a lot of pppl he thinks is town and they all agreed he is a good lynch. doesn't really matter in hindsight as he flipped scum so it's safe to assume we can trust most of those people
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I'll on you marv, good shot
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Here are the rest of my totally faked PM logs with VE.
These occur before the last set.
Original Message From VisceraEyes: Well you should probably already know that it wouldn't matter even if you did tell them that  Show nested quote +Original Message From WaveofShadow: I think I'm inclined to disagree simply based on knowing how I would respond to such a question. I'm sure you know what my stance on lurkers tends to be in most games, and as such I would probably offer a strong stance in determining who I felt would be good to eliminate early in the game. The only thing holding me back from going hardcore after lurkers (and taking BH's probable early bait with his kush-talk) is the presence of possible vigs (and now maybe a hatter) in this game. It's going to be their damn job to remove the chaff, and I hope I don't have to tell them that. Original Message From VisceraEyes: We'll find them. All of them. And we'll crush them together. I think to deal with lurkers I'm going to try something new this game. When I'm in PM contact with people, I'm going to ask them what they think about random lurkers and see what kind of patterns arise. Most town-aligned players will, in my opinion, offer not much of an opinion based on lack of evidence one way or another, but most scum players, in my opinion, will state at least some preference and give some kind of bullshit justification IF there are lurker scum in the people I ask about. It will be different than in the thread because conversations about specific people tend to be looser in PMs and I think the information will be more valuable. Agree/Disagree? Original Message From WaveofShadow: I'm wondering if either a) Mocsta is salty from some voice mafia games we played earlier tonight where I crushed scum b) He's just pulling some trolly shit. Can't tell which. I plan on giving yamato as fair a shot as anyone else in this game in terms of my vote. I don't necessarily think he'd lynch simply based on who he likes or dislikes. Not worrying about people who haven't really announced intent to run yet. I don't know DrH well enough though I'd probably give him a cursory townread for similar reasons to yours. I am inherently less trusting though, and much of what BH said in his DrH campaigning post about what not to think rings true with me. I'm not sure what exactly DrH is capable of but it is still early and I don't think he has a great deal to be accountable for just yet. VE, my brother, I sincerely hope that I can trust you this game, and that as such our record will continue. Original Message From VisceraEyes: Mocsta is wierding me out - I hope he does something or says something useful soon. I probably won't vote for yamato unless I like his reads and he looks like he has a chance of winning already. I'm sure he'll lynch someone he doesn't like and there's no guarantee that it would be a necessarily scummy person if he's town, and that's about the same as electing him if he's scum to me. I'll consider BC if he runs. I won't vote for BH unless he's serious about lynching Kush and I think Kush is scum. DocH is probably town to me. He's certainly going to a lot of effort to explain his motivations and stuff and if he's scum he'll have a lot to hold himself accountable to. Original Message From WaveofShadow: Jesus that yamatopost. I have a much stronger townread on BH than DrH if it must be known. And certainly no hard feelings; I haven't exactly announced myself as running for mayor and as such don't expect people to vote for me. Original Message From VisceraEyes:
Nothing personal, but right now I feel better about DocH based on his posting, and his reads are generally decent enough.
Do you agree that BH is probably town based on his PM? Can you see scum BH doing something like that as scum? It's a feels read, but it's enough to make me want to curb discussion about what it makes BH in the thread if you know what I mean.
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On January 13 2014 10:13 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 22:05 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 12 2014 22:01 marvellosity wrote:What are you talking about? There's literally no point in spending a bunch of sentences shovelling shit on to someone only to end it with "but i don't think mafia would do this after all" it's a totally pointless post which basically just says stuff for the sake of saying stuff because of how the conclusion ends up. On December 10 2013 07:36 Xatalos wrote:On December 10 2013 07:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh wait I can just click profile here. 15. OK. Well, it's definitely possible that this is a "play" to get town credit. But then again, the more likely scenario is that you're town and trying to figure out the game. Your experience makes the former option more likely, but still less likely than the later option, I'd say. Xatalos does this silly either.... or.... as mafia like this constantly. A bunch of sentences? I count like one, where he simply states facts. One of the sentences is him asking suchdoge to come back so he can try to read him, and then the final one is offering his own opinion to the matter. I see it unmistakeably with the proof of the second one, but are you completely certain he does not do this as town? To me it sounds like a thought process coming across. Yes it is a mafia thought process but one nonetheless---I know when I played scum I personally found it extremely easy to 'pretend' I was town and mimic my usual town thought processes. Seriously though, what the fuck
This means it's a mafia thought process because he was playing mafia at the time he made it. I suppose I should have clarified/differentiated but whatever. What I was getting at was it is entirely possible and easy (at least for me) to mimic town thought processes as mafia.
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Wow. ThY is the crux on Ve scum read on me.
##shoot: visceraeyes
Be scared.
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hey guys WoS is town but we hurt his feelings
be nice to him or he will probably act scummy out of spite
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Nah. He don't want to copy me thrawn.
Pugh that reminds me. I gotta read those logs. Forgot
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