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And this heated after we scumlynch day 1
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On January 13 2014 09:39 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2014 09:34 LSB Banking wrote:On January 13 2014 09:30 thrawn2112 wrote:
are there supposed to be links to go along with that yes there are... but I don't know if I can fix that without having to copy&past every single clicky do you have any reads based off of anything that's been posted since you made your first post?
I don't, And even if I had I probably wouldn't be able to put them into perspective without knowing what happened the last couple of pages.
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Let LSB catch up fully, talk to him then, it's just not interesting before that.
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On January 13 2014 09:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
And this heated after we scumlynch day 1
I had a real shit day DrH.
I don't really give a shit how people interpret that post, I meant every word of it.
And of all people to rag on me about being overemotional it's YOU?
What a joke.
Later.
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Mafia was lynched and WoS is furious haha
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Blazinghand
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You're not even under that much pressure, why are you blowing up like this, there are better ways to defend yourself
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U fuckn idiots.
Lynching Xat
Jesus Christ, I thought you want to win the game.
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Some VE logs.
Have fucking fun.
Can give you thrawn and yamato if you want too.
Original Message From VisceraEyes: I'm down to IRC or whatever. I didn't bring it to the thread for that reason - because I can also see DocH doing this as town maybe if it is him going all emo. My vote is on you because I think you'll do your hardest to find a good lynch and lynch it. You're putting in way more effort into fooling me than I think you would if you were scum, but that's just my feels reason. You're PMs with me seem to have a genuine concern for trying to figure out other peoples' alignments, and you don't seem evasive about anything. That's why my vote is on you - because I think you're town and because in the end I'm confident in your commitment to the game if you win. If you're not running just let me know and I'll find another candidate, but I think you'll do fine for this game. Show nested quote +Original Message From WaveofShadow: People's reasoning on Derrida appears to be that his opening post in this game somewhat matches the opening post in his scumgame (which is his ONLY other unflipped game---he's another that is still running). I get my ass burned on newbie reads all the time but I really don't THINK he's scum...I mean of course he could be pulling all that newbie shit as scum to throw people off but ugh. I don't think you could get DrH lynched for that nor do I think you should. Isn't DrH all about going all emo when stuff doesn't go his way? Is that what made him give up the election exactly as well because I thought he had reasoning in thread as to why he backed down, unless he was lying. Personally this is the reason why I wouldn't have voted him for mayor in the end (and if I was running, would have included it in my platform)---because DrH is known to get 'bored' or give up shortly after D1. He gets demoralized very easily and we need something better than that in a mayor. Also how exactly did rayn and suchdoge shake him up? Because I could very well see the both of them as scum. Rayn is just not performing to standard this game and I have a case on suchdoge in thread that nobody has commented on. Why is your vote on me right now exactly? (I'll probably be around for a while since my guy is having a rough night, so if you want to irc at any point just PM me and let me know.) Original Message From VisceraEyes: No he didn't warn me, but he has asked me for a couple of paragraphs on my reads. He says he's lost confidence in the game. I could probably get him lynched for the PM he sent me. It's really out of character and given context, looks pretty bad. I'm just trying to figure out of I'm seeing what I see. Here's the post. Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
can i get like a paragraph or two on your top one or two scumreads, i'm really out of confidence in this game rayn and suchdoge really shook me up. i need a jumping off point since my BH lynch fell off the map. He was suspicious of BH in the thread AND in PMs with me, but now he's acting all mopey because his scumread didn't pan out, presumably due to the mason claim. Can I see a town Doc acting like this? Maybe. Scum DocH? Maybe. Like from my perspective, as town, I'm like "Whatever, we'll lynch one of them eventually if they never die in spite of being claimed and confirmed town" so I'm just fine with letting them go. But it shakes DocH into giving up the election? What do YOU think it means? I think it makes him look much worse. Also where the pissballs is rayn? Since BH claimed mason I've seen practically nothing from rayn. What's the deal with Dirreda or whatever? Why are people suspicious of him? I've read most of the thread and I'm not really seeing much reasoning for it. I really just need to reread the whole thread before it gets too big to do so. I just read the last 20 or so pages but I kinda want to start over and reread everything before I go any further. And before I do that I'm gonna play LoL. Original Message From WaveofShadow: Thoughts on who you'd want as mayor now with DrH out? Did he talk to you at all or give you any warning regarding his dropping from the race (ie was it a gambit)? Also for pretty terrible reasons I'm thinking Mocsta is scum. Original Message From VisceraEyes: I responded to that point. I don't have time and no, I couldn't totally win. Scum got me elected last game. Original Message From WaveofShadow: You know, aside from Koshis dumb suspicion of me because I'm not 'mad enough' about rolling town, he makes a point about you and the mayoral election. You could totally win---why not run? Original Message From VisceraEyes: Yeah when you were all defeatist about how bad towns have been and stuff, a la Thug Life. As much as I may have agreed with you about it, being vocal about it in the thread did nothing but make me think you were dramatizing it with malicious intent  Original Message From WaveofShadow: Wish I knew honestly. I've never played with a scum marv so I don't know what to expect, and PM-land is muddling it up because I don't know what he's doing. I know I don't like the fact that he's not even attempting to assist town in public as normal. (What do you mean by in a hole about the quality of play here? Do you mean in this game, or Thug Life when I was all ragey? ) Original Message From VisceraEyes: I mean, everyone who CAN find scum for good reasons should be assertive and confident about it - maybe then towns would be able to get shit done. I'm super glad to see that you're not in a hole about the quality of play here though, that shit was annoying. What do you think about marv? I mean you said he's not doing as much as you'd hoped or expected or whatever...do you think that makes him scum? Or more likely to be scum? Or is it null to you? Original Message From WaveofShadow:
I can't remember who brought it up (kush I think?) but as far as DrH goes my concerns are that even if he is town, how do I know that this isn't just another game where his D1 activity is through the roof and then he goes on to just not give a fuck? Do I take him at his word?
I'm waffling on announcing mayoral candidacy. The one thing holding me back is the fact that my D1 scumreads are usually garb but after 'A Quiet Game' postgame discussion I think it's time to be more assertive and confident (especially after some fun Voice mafia last night). At the very least I always have the threads assurance that I am town by D2 at the latest in like every game I've ever been in.
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Smart that he didn't respond he knew I was just trying to fish for his alignment
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I see Svengali in there WoS
Be not hypnotized
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On January 13 2014 09:57 WaveofShadow wrote:Some VE logs. Have fucking fun. Can give you thrawn and yamato if you want too. Show nested quote +Original Message From VisceraEyes: I'm down to IRC or whatever. I didn't bring it to the thread for that reason - because I can also see DocH doing this as town maybe if it is him going all emo. My vote is on you because I think you'll do your hardest to find a good lynch and lynch it. You're putting in way more effort into fooling me than I think you would if you were scum, but that's just my feels reason. You're PMs with me seem to have a genuine concern for trying to figure out other peoples' alignments, and you don't seem evasive about anything. That's why my vote is on you - because I think you're town and because in the end I'm confident in your commitment to the game if you win. If you're not running just let me know and I'll find another candidate, but I think you'll do fine for this game. Original Message From WaveofShadow: People's reasoning on Derrida appears to be that his opening post in this game somewhat matches the opening post in his scumgame (which is his ONLY other unflipped game---he's another that is still running). I get my ass burned on newbie reads all the time but I really don't THINK he's scum...I mean of course he could be pulling all that newbie shit as scum to throw people off but ugh. I don't think you could get DrH lynched for that nor do I think you should. Isn't DrH all about going all emo when stuff doesn't go his way? Is that what made him give up the election exactly as well because I thought he had reasoning in thread as to why he backed down, unless he was lying. Personally this is the reason why I wouldn't have voted him for mayor in the end (and if I was running, would have included it in my platform)---because DrH is known to get 'bored' or give up shortly after D1. He gets demoralized very easily and we need something better than that in a mayor. Also how exactly did rayn and suchdoge shake him up? Because I could very well see the both of them as scum. Rayn is just not performing to standard this game and I have a case on suchdoge in thread that nobody has commented on. Why is your vote on me right now exactly? (I'll probably be around for a while since my guy is having a rough night, so if you want to irc at any point just PM me and let me know.) Original Message From VisceraEyes: No he didn't warn me, but he has asked me for a couple of paragraphs on my reads. He says he's lost confidence in the game. I could probably get him lynched for the PM he sent me. It's really out of character and given context, looks pretty bad. I'm just trying to figure out of I'm seeing what I see. Here's the post. Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
can i get like a paragraph or two on your top one or two scumreads, i'm really out of confidence in this game rayn and suchdoge really shook me up. i need a jumping off point since my BH lynch fell off the map. He was suspicious of BH in the thread AND in PMs with me, but now he's acting all mopey because his scumread didn't pan out, presumably due to the mason claim. Can I see a town Doc acting like this? Maybe. Scum DocH? Maybe. Like from my perspective, as town, I'm like "Whatever, we'll lynch one of them eventually if they never die in spite of being claimed and confirmed town" so I'm just fine with letting them go. But it shakes DocH into giving up the election? What do YOU think it means? I think it makes him look much worse. Also where the pissballs is rayn? Since BH claimed mason I've seen practically nothing from rayn. What's the deal with Dirreda or whatever? Why are people suspicious of him? I've read most of the thread and I'm not really seeing much reasoning for it. I really just need to reread the whole thread before it gets too big to do so. I just read the last 20 or so pages but I kinda want to start over and reread everything before I go any further. And before I do that I'm gonna play LoL. Original Message From WaveofShadow: Thoughts on who you'd want as mayor now with DrH out? Did he talk to you at all or give you any warning regarding his dropping from the race (ie was it a gambit)? Also for pretty terrible reasons I'm thinking Mocsta is scum. Original Message From VisceraEyes: I responded to that point. I don't have time and no, I couldn't totally win. Scum got me elected last game. Original Message From WaveofShadow: You know, aside from Koshis dumb suspicion of me because I'm not 'mad enough' about rolling town, he makes a point about you and the mayoral election. You could totally win---why not run? Original Message From VisceraEyes: Yeah when you were all defeatist about how bad towns have been and stuff, a la Thug Life. As much as I may have agreed with you about it, being vocal about it in the thread did nothing but make me think you were dramatizing it with malicious intent Original Message From WaveofShadow: Wish I knew honestly. I've never played with a scum marv so I don't know what to expect, and PM-land is muddling it up because I don't know what he's doing. I know I don't like the fact that he's not even attempting to assist town in public as normal. (What do you mean by in a hole about the quality of play here? Do you mean in this game, or Thug Life when I was all ragey? ) Original Message From VisceraEyes:
I mean, everyone who CAN find scum for good reasons should be assertive and confident about it - maybe then towns would be able to get shit done. I'm super glad to see that you're not in a hole about the quality of play here though, that shit was annoying.
What do you think about marv? I mean you said he's not doing as much as you'd hoped or expected or whatever...do you think that makes him scum? Or more likely to be scum? Or is it null to you?
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are those the only people you've talked to in PM's? Me, ve, and yamato?
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Im pretty sure I have to PM it, so all is good.
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On January 12 2014 22:05 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 22:01 marvellosity wrote:What are you talking about? There's literally no point in spending a bunch of sentences shovelling shit on to someone only to end it with "but i don't think mafia would do this after all" it's a totally pointless post which basically just says stuff for the sake of saying stuff because of how the conclusion ends up. On December 10 2013 07:36 Xatalos wrote:On December 10 2013 07:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh wait I can just click profile here. 15. OK. Well, it's definitely possible that this is a "play" to get town credit. But then again, the more likely scenario is that you're town and trying to figure out the game. Your experience makes the former option more likely, but still less likely than the later option, I'd say. Xatalos does this silly either.... or.... as mafia like this constantly. A bunch of sentences? I count like one, where he simply states facts. One of the sentences is him asking suchdoge to come back so he can try to read him, and then the final one is offering his own opinion to the matter. I see it unmistakeably with the proof of the second one, but are you completely certain he does not do this as town? To me it sounds like a thought process coming across. Yes it is a mafia thought process but one nonetheless---I know when I played scum I personally found it extremely easy to 'pretend' I was town and mimic my usual town thought processes.
Seriously though, what the fuck
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