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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 12 2014 01:46 GMT
#961
You guys are leaving out the pro-town aspects of my play, like my mass PM and supporting the mason strat. come on guys! On top of that, I think my talking about the hatter bombs is entirely reasonable. When would DrH REALLY get shot N1? well, if Marv and Rayn are boths cum (remember i have yet to deduce that 1+ of them are town at this point, since they haven't PMed me yet). If you guys want me to stop posting in this thread because I am "shitting it up" I will gladly comply, but I really don't see any of my actions so far as scum-motivated. I don't have good reads, but a lot of times i dont' have very solid reads D1. I have been trying in PM-land to generate evidence and respond earnestly to what people PM me. if you guys want to lynch me for that, you're wrong, and I will do my best to argue you're wrong. I still think DrH is the right guy for mayor, but come on guys, you don't REALLY believe this, do you?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Captain Obvious
Profile Joined January 2014
33 Posts
January 12 2014 01:46 GMT
#962
On January 12 2014 10:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
he doesn't have real reads because he's making exclusively private reads to people and they're all different people.

course of action:
1. ask for policy lynch on a player whose alignment you have no opinion on
2. say that no matter who is mayor you will push for this lynch
3. vote for a mayor who says they will not lynch kush and suspects BH himself of being scum
4. provide scumread on xatalos when asked by me on the second half of the day, doesn't push it
5. privately provides scumread to xatalos on alakaslam, doesn't push it in thread
6. privately provides split moderate scumreads on rayn/marvellosity to me in private, says putting madhatter bombs on them is a good idea, doesn't push either player in thread or in his PMs with other people, when asked about it only talks about how he only thinks one can be scum
7. votes for me again after i ask for him to be lynched

he's playing intentionally and brazenly anti-town. I don't care how "bad" blazinghand is. What better to do as scum at this point than to collapse completely and shit in the thread?


He clearly stated it was a policy lynch because he did not believe he would be able to discern his alignment. If he was able to form an opinion on him he wouldn't have asked for a policy lynch!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 12 2014 01:47 GMT
#963
i'm gonna leave this for now. As usual BH stuns me with his play.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 12 2014 01:47 GMT
#964
yeah, what a self-centered and stupid way of looking at the game. I can't read VE hardly ever, there are people who can, why would I want him lynched Day 1 over something like that? Why would he push other mayors to stick to his policy lynch over his own preferences versus pushing his ACTUAL scumreads? Is that good play to you
RIP Aaliyah
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 12 2014 01:47 GMT
#965
On January 12 2014 10:46 Captain Obvious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 10:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
he doesn't have real reads because he's making exclusively private reads to people and they're all different people.

course of action:
1. ask for policy lynch on a player whose alignment you have no opinion on
2. say that no matter who is mayor you will push for this lynch
3. vote for a mayor who says they will not lynch kush and suspects BH himself of being scum
4. provide scumread on xatalos when asked by me on the second half of the day, doesn't push it
5. privately provides scumread to xatalos on alakaslam, doesn't push it in thread
6. privately provides split moderate scumreads on rayn/marvellosity to me in private, says putting madhatter bombs on them is a good idea, doesn't push either player in thread or in his PMs with other people, when asked about it only talks about how he only thinks one can be scum
7. votes for me again after i ask for him to be lynched

he's playing intentionally and brazenly anti-town. I don't care how "bad" blazinghand is. What better to do as scum at this point than to collapse completely and shit in the thread?


He clearly stated it was a policy lynch because he did not believe he would be able to discern his alignment. If he was able to form an opinion on him he wouldn't have asked for a policy lynch!


yeah I mean like I said, DrH clearly doesn't understand (or, more likely, is pretending not to understand) my thought process or the definition of a policy lynch. I suspect he's actually just displeased with my playstyle and has decided to make an example of me, showing he's not afraid to go after veterans who don't play to his standards. If it causes town to fall into line for the rest of the game, that's a reasonable decision and I support that.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 12 2014 01:49 GMT
#966
On January 12 2014 10:47 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
yeah, what a self-centered and stupid way of looking at the game. I can't read VE hardly ever, there are people who can, why would I want him lynched Day 1 over something like that? Why would he push other mayors to stick to his policy lynch over his own preferences versus pushing his ACTUAL scumreads? Is that good play to you


Wait okay hold on a sec

i'm gonna be totally clear here, since this wasn't clear before, the kush policy lynch was 100% JUST A CONVERSATION STARTER. now normally I wouldn't cop to it but the purpose of that lynch and its time has passed, we're at the point where we clearly have lots to talk about. generally in games, especially during D1, people are always griping about not having things to talk about. I got the ball rolling with the kush plynch and tried to get people to spout opinions on the Drh election. Surely this is a good thing, yes?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 12 2014 01:50 GMT
#967
ok now you're lying
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 12 2014 01:51 GMT
#968
On January 12 2014 10:47 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 10:46 Captain Obvious wrote:
On January 12 2014 10:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
he doesn't have real reads because he's making exclusively private reads to people and they're all different people.

course of action:
1. ask for policy lynch on a player whose alignment you have no opinion on
2. say that no matter who is mayor you will push for this lynch
3. vote for a mayor who says they will not lynch kush and suspects BH himself of being scum
4. provide scumread on xatalos when asked by me on the second half of the day, doesn't push it
5. privately provides scumread to xatalos on alakaslam, doesn't push it in thread
6. privately provides split moderate scumreads on rayn/marvellosity to me in private, says putting madhatter bombs on them is a good idea, doesn't push either player in thread or in his PMs with other people, when asked about it only talks about how he only thinks one can be scum
7. votes for me again after i ask for him to be lynched

he's playing intentionally and brazenly anti-town. I don't care how "bad" blazinghand is. What better to do as scum at this point than to collapse completely and shit in the thread?


He clearly stated it was a policy lynch because he did not believe he would be able to discern his alignment. If he was able to form an opinion on him he wouldn't have asked for a policy lynch!


yeah I mean like I said, DrH clearly doesn't understand (or, more likely, is pretending not to understand) my thought process or the definition of a policy lynch. I suspect he's actually just displeased with my playstyle and has decided to make an example of me, showing he's not afraid to go after veterans who don't play to his standards. If it causes town to fall into line for the rest of the game, that's a reasonable decision and I support that.

ah, martyr yourself
RIP Aaliyah
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 12 2014 01:51 GMT
#969
OK OK WAIT. ONE MORE THING. I am Hopeless1's mason partner. SURELY it's not worth it to lynch me, a confirmed town player?!
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 12 2014 01:51 GMT
#970
lol

so I was right

toogood
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 12 2014 01:52 GMT
#971
lol I knew that was coming
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 12 2014 01:52 GMT
#972
LOOK I KNOW I'M PLAYING LIKE SHIT, but luckily as always i rolled blue so don't lynch me. i'll get my shit together. I want to do wellt his game! this is a sweet game.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 12 2014 01:53 GMT
#973
well wait for hopeless to confirm that otherwise you need to stop playing recklessly and push your actual scumreads
RIP Aaliyah
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 12 2014 01:53 GMT
#974
well marv. that explains the awkward bits about bh from hopeless pm's
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 12 2014 01:53 GMT
#975
can't believe you calling me scum for being attentive enough to notice that

so lame
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 12 2014 01:54 GMT
#976
coag. we should lynch coag. SURELY we should lynch him today. I say this because he obviously is going to put in coag levels of effort (ie accidentally hammering himself as town in instant majority lynch MYLO) so we should just get rid of him
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 12 2014 01:54 GMT
#977
For reference, this was it:

On January 12 2014 07:36 Blazinghand wrote:
##vote Doctorhelvetica

quick thoughts

1) kush campaign was semi legit but mostly just for the talking. realistically speaking people love derping around and complaining about how nobody has anything to talk about. kush is an okay policy lynch but he's no oatsmaster. (heh)

2) I honestly belive DrH is our best mayor here. the fact that he thought about how to use the hammering power optimally and laid out a plan and defended it should be more than enough of a reason. even if he's scum (plausible, as DrH is pretty sharp; he could have done this to try to win it as scum) he's still written himself into a corner in terms of how he uses the hammering vote. this is subject to change but short of someone claiming mason I don't think it will

3) i omitted certain people from my mass pm, mostly people I was already talking to via pm, but also one or two people I didn't want to talk to. I did the mass pm because I wanted to see how people would react differently to it and gather data. one of the things i was checking for was how quickly people would figure out it was a mass pm (since scum would know instantly as they would be comparing pms in the scum qt). I was not anticipating people discussing the pm in the thread so quickly, so this derailed my plan. I'll figure out something else for finding scum.

4) if you pmed me and I haven't gotten back to you, I'm sorry, pm me again so it shows as unread. thanks!

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 12 2014 01:54 GMT
#978
On January 12 2014 10:53 marvellosity wrote:
can't believe you calling me scum for being attentive enough to notice that

so lame


why were you even fishing for that though? like why even fish? i can't think of a reason better than "I'm scum and I want to know who I can shoot for free"
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 12 2014 01:55 GMT
#979
On January 12 2014 10:54 marvellosity wrote:
For reference, this was it:

Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 07:36 Blazinghand wrote:
##vote Doctorhelvetica

quick thoughts

1) kush campaign was semi legit but mostly just for the talking. realistically speaking people love derping around and complaining about how nobody has anything to talk about. kush is an okay policy lynch but he's no oatsmaster. (heh)

2) I honestly belive DrH is our best mayor here. the fact that he thought about how to use the hammering power optimally and laid out a plan and defended it should be more than enough of a reason. even if he's scum (plausible, as DrH is pretty sharp; he could have done this to try to win it as scum) he's still written himself into a corner in terms of how he uses the hammering vote. this is subject to change but short of someone claiming mason I don't think it will

3) i omitted certain people from my mass pm, mostly people I was already talking to via pm, but also one or two people I didn't want to talk to. I did the mass pm because I wanted to see how people would react differently to it and gather data. one of the things i was checking for was how quickly people would figure out it was a mass pm (since scum would know instantly as they would be comparing pms in the scum qt). I was not anticipating people discussing the pm in the thread so quickly, so this derailed my plan. I'll figure out something else for finding scum.

4) if you pmed me and I haven't gotten back to you, I'm sorry, pm me again so it shows as unread. thanks!



yes, that was my crumb, i posted it right before hopeless claimed mason so the two of us would be able to do yada yada yada. but it turns out the whole mason mayor powers don't work together
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 12 2014 01:55 GMT
#980
because i like to know that i'm right

do you not know my fucking ego?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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