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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
On January 12 2014 10:05 marvellosity wrote: it's more that Wos and I work very well together when we're both town and we both acknowledge this, so I'm pretty curious why he wouldn't approach me if he's hashing things out with other 'PM buddies' maybe he thinks you're scum; alternatively, maybe he's a horrible digusting liarrrrr | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On January 12 2014 09:58 yamato77 wrote: If you're scum after that emotional blab, I'm never playing with you again. I'd suggest ditching dick move analysis; it's proven to be ineffective as of late. I will however appeal to you personally; you can take it as you will. Knowing what you know of me, my playstyle, and my attitude towards mafia and rules in general, I think you can draw the proper conclusions. Now if people are interested in my scumreads (and you should be), I'm thinking primarily suchdoge for starters. I have been in discussion with a few players in PMs (I won't reveal who I'm talking to with regards to specific conversations unless I believe it's absolutely necessary---they can reveal themselves if they so choose) and one player got me thinking about suchdoge's identity. I won't really bother guessing (even though we both guessed the same person) because basing a scumread solely on that (and as a result, meta) would be terrible but if other people have any guesses you may want to keep those in mind or alternatively you can PM me and I will discuss that section with you. Suchdoge: His massive entry post that said the same thing about the mayoral election that I already did earlier in thread, and then promoted marv and mig as good candidates for election despite the fact that marv (at the time) was barely playing this game (although I can't be certain about PMs) and I'm assuming Mig hasn't shown up yet (and from what I saw in PYP I'm not particularly impressed with his play). The rest of his filter (and he HAS one, unlike others) was shitting on the main and strongest mayoral prospect and talking about how he can't PM. I would be curious to know what interactions people have had with him in PM/IRC-land because I have spoken to people with conflicting reads here. It is my belief that such an entry into the thread, not offering anything particularly useful other than the offering up of mayoral candidates that can widely be accepted as 'good players' if they decide to run is nothing more than a safe and neutral play under the guise of effort, a perfect scum opener. The rest of his filter does not lead me to believe he has town's best interests in mind (despite some people currently agreeing with DrH not being the best mayoral prospect, including DrH himself) as he promoted negativity without offering something positive and realistic in return. Also now that marv HAS announced his potential candidacy I would like to see how he will react. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On January 12 2014 10:05 marvellosity wrote: it's more that Wos and I work very well together when we're both town and we both acknowledge this, so I'm pretty curious why he wouldn't approach me if he's hashing things out with other 'PM buddies' I agree with you marv, but I stated at the beginning of the game two things: that I'd be trying something a little new this game, and, having never played a PM game before I'd rather let players come to me, similar to what you stated you'd be doing. I do agree with your sentiment, and we DO tend to work very well together marv, but you also know how naturally untrusting I am, and without the rest of the thread to tell me not to be paranoid about you (if you ARE in fact townin PM-land, I'm not sure how useful it would be---in my mind it may simply open myself up to be manipulated even more. That being said I would love to discuss reads with you if you'll send me a PM, just keep my current attitude and reservations in mind. For similar reasons to the above as well, I would not currently be comfortable voting you for mayor. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
Original Message From Blazinghand: reasonable since scum would probably shoot r + m before you, so if they're shooting you first it means r + m are probably scum. much more reasonable because one of them is almost certainly scum. I have moderate scumreads on both r + m because they have both pmed me asking if I was hopeless1der's mason partner; fishing for mason partner doesn't make a lot of sense unless you're thinking of shooting whoever hopeless1 makes his bodyguard. I think it's unlikely they're BOTH scum since if they were both scum only one of them would go fishing (why risk exposing both of them)?-- the most likely situation is exactly one of them is scum. I'm not madhatter. Why does BlazingHand have any kind of scumread on rayn or marvellosity, both of whom are pretty strong townreads for me, why is he more concerned with talking to me about how I must be town than talking about his actual reads on Marv/Rayn and why isn't he stating this in the thread. He began the game with an empty policy lynch on Kush, then supported me, now he has actual scumreads he isn't pursuing and went along with the idea that I would kill not only two players who are doing a good job of establishing themselves as town but two of the most active players in the game? Lynch BH today. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
Original Message From Blazinghand: well you're gonna like this even less then HueeeeE Hide nested quote - Original Message From Xatalos: I'll go read your older games. I really didn't like your kush -> DrH switch though. Original Message From Blazinghand: it doesn't make a hyoooj amount of sense for a guy to reference his own meta but i'm just gonna tell you if you think my play this game is remotely indicative of me being scum you really gotta check my meta. my profile has links to most of my mafia games (aven't updated in a few months though) and lists what alignment I was. if your'e wondering why people are mostly wanting to lynch me for being a pest, not for being a scum, the answer is simple. Original Message From Xatalos: What would scum Alakaslam possibly gain from lying about PM'ing you? That just makes zero sense. I have trouble thinking of any explanation though. IRL issues maybe? I've played with kush and I think he's trollish and useless. Frankly, though, I don't think it's too different from playing with you. You at least seem like you're trying, but I'd equally not want either of you as Mayor. Original Message From Blazinghand: i have played and hosted many games with kush. perhaps you have not played with him; that's fair enough. you'll understand what I mean by the time we get to D2 or so and you have a chance to observe his play firsthand. slam probably scum. anticipate he'll claim he pmed me. Original Message From Xatalos: That answer didn't really raise my confidence in you. I don't understand wanting to lynch someone before he's even posted. Can you explain your rationale behind the tunneling better? Because I just see it as mindless. I'm curious about Alakaslam though. Original Message From Blazinghand: yes but drh is probably better for it. he's obviously town and better than i am at mafiaa if elected I will lynch kush. I will lobby whoever gets elected to lynch kush. kush needs to die. yes no ,slam has not pmed me | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Original Message From Xatalos: Dat vote.... I've been reading Carnival Cruise Mafia a bit. There you don't want to policy lynch kush. Are you telling me that it's some sort of a scumtell for you? Otherwise I don't see anything easy to notice. Your play is so weird that I find it hard to read you at all. I really don't like how you're flip-flopping your opinions so casually. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
xatalos rayn marv alakaslam are all scum? | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
DrH is also very likely town for sharing. <3 DrH | ||
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
On January 12 2014 08:20 Hopeless1der wrote: I'm a Mason who is going to serve as the posterchild for a hidden town circle. Vote me mayor. Or yamato...but mostly me. Mason You are a town Mason with [Insert player names here], you survived a recent TL Mafia game as town. After said game you are certain of your fellow Mason's alignments. Unfortunately you have a weak constitution so >>>You cannot be protected from night kills<<< uh... this is a pretty serious problem with that plan. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
Upon election of a mayor, the mayor will choose two bodyguards. The bodyguards will know that they are a bodyguard, but no one else (besides the mayor) will know who the bodyguards are. The bodyguard ability is considered a night protect and may be roleblocked (both bodyguards must be disable for a non-mason mayor to be killable). As stated in OP, masons can not be protected by anything, including the bodyguard ability. EDIT: A mafia bodyguard will protect the mayor (unless roleblocked) | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On January 12 2014 10:24 Blazinghand wrote: but it's also totes reasonable to be suspicious of marv and rayne for bluefishing... come on guys. jeez. Too much of a god-damn pussy to take me on yourself, BH? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
On January 12 2014 10:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote: you also said you'd be fine with a xatalos lynch so do you think: xatalos rayn marv alakaslam are all scum? um obviously not, rayn and marv can't be scum together. did you not read the pm i sent you and that you posted? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
##unvote ##vote doctorhelvetica | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On January 12 2014 10:27 Blazinghand wrote: hm if the mason strat won't work I guess Drh should be mayor ##unvote ##vote doctorhelvetica im going to lynch you if im mayor | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
no you're not, you think i'm town | ||
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