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On January 12 2014 11:01 marvellosity wrote: how did my fishing cause BH's godawful play? how does that even make sense? Well...indirectly I suppose, but given that this is a PM game it seems logical to assume that nothing you post in PMs is TRULY private, so I feel like you must have known it was likely for BH to out your fishing attempts to someone else. | ||
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It wouldn't be me if I wasn't at least a little bad. I get what you're saying but it's never quite so cut and dry from my perspective. You should know this by now. | ||
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On January 12 2014 11:05 marvellosity wrote: but it should be if you engage but an ounce of your considerable brainpower i dare you Good old marv. King of skirting the line between flattery and insults. <3 Don't you worry your pretty head though, I have bigger doges to fry, as it were. How do you feel about having one of our pow-wow sessions out in the open? | ||
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On January 12 2014 11:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote: let's talk about how derrida is scum I get bitten in the ass a lot on newbie tells so whereas once I'd say he screams town, now it's probably only a whisper. I 'll just sit back and listen to you first, DrH. And marv, just let me know when.  | ||
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On January 12 2014 11:13 yamato77 wrote: Or BC But he SHOULD play more soon. I have no doubt that BC is telling the truth as either alignment. Do you think he's scum yamato? | ||
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On January 12 2014 11:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote: talking about it in irc right now, will you get on irc i'd like to talk to you in particular actually. i have confidence that if you are town it will be productive Don't have it on this computer. Give me a bit. | ||
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You've thrown a bunch of names around as to who you might want to kill---BH, Hopeless, VE now, people who don't contribute in the thread... I want to know where you're headed with the lynch long before it happens and I want it to be consistent. Can you do that? | ||
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I'm really tempted to pick up the reins here now that yamato has dropped out (and why, exactly?) because I have zero faith or trust in Rayn this game and don't want the mayor role to default onto him. Marv I'm 50/50 on you right now, so let's chat while I have the chance. At the moment the only thing stopping me from actually running is the fact that I won't be around for deadlines and a large part of today specifically, which wouldn't exactly be fair to what would be my loyal constituents, now would it? VE please take your vote off me so I'm not tempted any further. I've said it before and I'll say it again---I get burned on newbie reads a lot, unfortunately, but that doesn't mean I have to like what is going on with Derrida. I simply don't think he is scum despite the similarities between his opening post here and in his scum game and I certainly don't like that he appears to be an easy 'default' lynch for people to fall back on. Rayn announced he'd vote for him (to assist him in winning, no doubt) and now marv has done the same---it seems today's lynch has already been chosen despite all the talk that's going to go on for the next few hours, no? | ||
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On January 12 2014 21:41 marvellosity wrote: In all honesty town has a much higher chance of winning this game with me as mayor than as anyone else. That's a simple fact. If you're town. And you knew that was coming so don't start with me. Your interactions during the BH debacle made me feel a little better (but as I've said to many people, I've never seen a scum marv so I don't really know what to expect in that regard), including what you and DrH believe to be irrefutable proof that you're town (informing BH of your 'bluefishing' attempts). What I don't like so much is how you started off the game. I know you tend to start slow and pick things up over time, but surely you knew directly from the start the people were likely to turn to you one way or the other as you're often seen as an extremely strong town leader, so why bother with the charade of 'if' you run for mayor? Apparently suchdoge knew it was an inevitability (this is not association, just an example). Maybe it's coincidence or egotism talking but your primary lynches for the day just so happen to be between what Rayn (and much of the thread) recently announced his to be, and what I announced mine to be a while ago. What other reads do you have? Who would you lynch if it couldn't be one of those two? This stuff for starters, then mabes we gets a nice conversation going. | ||
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On January 12 2014 21:43 marvellosity wrote: Kinda wavering on my early town read of Xatalos too. I have Xatalos as town. If anything the early part of his filter looks worse than the latter part to me so I'm not sure why an early townread. | ||
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On January 12 2014 21:53 marvellosity wrote: The stuff with BH makes me practically confirmed town with anyone with a piece between their ears. I'm happy to repeat it because it's really kind of obvious. I also never, never get this vague accusation that's often levelled against me of starting off the game slow. It's sooooo soooooo easy to start off the game "fast" as mafia. Because you don't have to find the truth, you can just say something that looks pretty. Surely you must understand this? By the way, Derrida isn't "rayn's" lynch per se - he and I were basically talking about Derrida all yesterday before he even posted, and I said something like "Never has a player managed to look so bad without having posted yet - it's quite a feat!" - rayn will back me up on any of this. Like I said I'm getting kinda interested in Xatalos. I had a townread on him early on because he PMed me really soon after the game started asking me why I wasn't running and generally being kinda aggressive towards me. Which would be kind of a risky thing for Xatalos to do I guess. The problem is subsequently (unlike almost every other player who I shared PMs with at the start of the game) he has not made contact with me at all. DrH didn't like his big reads type post which I said I was fine with, except for one bit, and that's now increasingly bugging me: suchdoge is supicious suchdoge disappeared ask question about PMs that suchdoge already clarified want suchdoge to post suchdoge impossible to read but don't think mafia would play like this It's the final qualifier that looks really bad here What about that looks bad specifically? To me I would think that only looks bad if they're both scum. A scum Xatalos-->town suchdoge? Sounds like a gift for scum to me and kinda stupid to garner towncred on it. | ||
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On January 12 2014 22:01 suchdoge wrote: WoS I don't understand why you don't like the way things have been going lately. By the way you worded that it almost sounds as if you don't want marv as mayor, which makes very little sense except as scum attempting to subtly discredit marv. Care to explain what exactly you are not happy with? ##vote marvellosity lol subtly Welcome to the thread. Who have you been talking to, because I assume in your extended absence you must have had some conversations and reads going. | ||
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On January 12 2014 22:01 marvellosity wrote: What are you talking about? There's literally no point in spending a bunch of sentences shovelling shit on to someone only to end it with "but i don't think mafia would do this after all" it's a totally pointless post which basically just says stuff for the sake of saying stuff because of how the conclusion ends up. Xatalos does this silly either.... or.... as mafia like this constantly. A bunch of sentences? I count like one, where he simply states facts. One of the sentences is him asking suchdoge to come back so he can try to read him, and then the final one is offering his own opinion to the matter. I see it unmistakeably with the proof of the second one, but are you completely certain he does not do this as town? To me it sounds like a thought process coming across. Yes it is a mafia thought process but one nonetheless---I know when I played scum I personally found it extremely easy to 'pretend' I was town and mimic my usual town thought processes. | ||
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On January 12 2014 22:09 marvellosity wrote: There is a way, although I find it pretty unlikely. He still won't lie about Xata's meta though :p The question was technically unrelated (in my mind) but I do appreciate the clarification. I think part of my reservations stem from the fact that things feel a little more out-of-my-control than usual, which is obviously to be expected, and I am always reluctant to give up control to strong players who I have trouble trusting (especially rayn. You I often come around to  ). As is I could probably attempt to fight you and Rayn for mayor but as I said I won't have the time today and ultimately I do believe that there are people who could do a better job than me. I just hate that feeling of 'default.' I feel robbed of the choice I felt I had earlier in the day. I will feel infinitely better once one of you is right about something I was wrong about (as does tend to happen in these games).Marv are you on irc? Rayn you attempted to contact me last night and then disappeared. I wouldn't mind knowing what it was exactly you wanted to discuss. | ||
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On January 12 2014 22:13 suchdoge wrote: marv pretty much. No one else has bothered to Skype me, which is the only thing that I can use as long as I have no PC (for like 1-2 days maybe?) suchdogemlg420 IRC doesn't work cause it requires me to be constantly present. Skype works more like text messaging although the app is kinda buggy. My 5 PMs have been refreshed though so I've responded to DH and I will be reaching out to VE and whomever else strikes my fancy. Also as a public notice the following players did not respond to my PMs from the first 24 hours: BC CaptainObvious BH Mig So, only marv responded and other than that only DH actually bothered to reach out to me. Of the above players BH and CO are actually scummy since they were in the thread and provably not afk for some time. I would think then it would be in yours and more importantly, town's best interests to post in the thread rather than simply expect people to come to you. Do you have reads? | ||
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Probably it for the day Will explain later if people require ##vote:marv | ||
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Marv I can't fucking believe how hard you are misrepresenting me right now. I flat out told you that I have a hard time trusting you and am suspicious of you and you say I'm not? And all of a sudden the whole fucking thread nearly gets together to lynch me at the last second while I'm fucking afk? Aside from the fucking lot of you all saying 'oh well his filter looks scummy' WHICH ONE OF YOU ACTUALLY WROTE A FUCKING CASE? WHO HAS SOME FUCKING SCUM PROOF? WHO HAS SOME ANALYSIS? Nobody, that's who. Some fucking horseshit going on right here. Marv congratulations on being right about Xatalos, maybe before some moron shoots VE you should remember what I said to you about him. People fucking lumping me into the same group as Derrida wtf is that. I'll be back later tonight once I've calmed down and had a chance to relax. I just typed out a long paragraph about where I was but fuck that, you people don't deserve it. | ||
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On January 13 2014 09:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote: And this heated after we scumlynch day 1 I had a real shit day DrH. I don't really give a shit how people interpret that post, I meant every word of it. And of all people to rag on me about being overemotional it's YOU? What a joke. Later. | ||
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