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On December 09 2013 18:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: It also hides the role so it's not pointless. Also it is useful if they happen to kill the SK and hide the flip as town does not know if the SK is dead or not. so they can either have a KP that works half the time, an undetectable roleblock, or hide the role of their nk. They are never going to use that ability. | ||
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On December 06 2013 22:15 JacobStrangelove wrote: /obs wb i have always loved you | ||
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On December 10 2013 06:49 Xatalos wrote: Kushm4sta, by the way, I hope you're planning to play this game seriously. I've witnessed several games that you've partly ruined by lurking or worse. If you're scum, you can get policy lynched. That's fine. Sorry but I'm doing a lurk strat this game! I disagree that it will ruin the game though. | ||
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On December 10 2013 08:19 Xatalos wrote: By the way... rayn, what are you doing? I thought you were going to be one of the most contributive players here. I hope it'll get better from here... Otherwise you're probably scum. dude you need to chillax. it's like hours into the game. | ||
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dont have time to do much d1. | ||
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isn't xatalos talking way too much to be scum? | ||
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xatalos - talking a lot early game for no reason at all! Ive seen him play scum and he didn't post that much. Has this been changed by recent meta? holyflare- scum kill this dude d1 yup i haven't read everything yet ~~ can i get some consolidation please? cause i dont want to read all this complicated shit everyone is writing. ok standby for next post which will contain important shit | ||
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He is definitely not marv. from pregame: On December 10 2013 05:37 Plutarch wrote: marv's taste in music is not this dumb. And if it was he wouldn't advertise it. On December 10 2013 06:07 Plutarch wrote: I see some dissonance between your first point and your second. Why would you be so inclined towards policy on low activity players when you have just acknowledged that people can be town and not be active? Perhaps as you say you only require town to be active and you are, in fact, scum? Marv would never write a sentence as useless as this last one. Plutarch is some newish player tryharding. Could be koshi. | ||
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If his meta has changed as you suggest, that I take back my townread of him. | ||
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On December 10 2013 20:23 Spaghetticus wrote: Kush makes sense, but in the wrong direction. Why do we care so much about who he is? we shouldn't but we do. ok so plutarch is someone who has played with xatalos recently. Should be pretty easy to figure out now. | ||
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Frankly I think plutarch is way too cheery to be iamperfection. That guy is a meanie. I don't think I can guess who it is actually and I will stop trying now so speghetti doesn't get too confused; | ||
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if it's debears then<3 i love you debears. | ||
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As scum in dessert his early game was giving reluctant townreads based on blatant antitowniness. This game he wants to lynch me for antitowniness. | ||
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maybe not atm he doens't want to lynch me, but he did pressure me. in dessert there was no pressure. here he is very aggressive and he changes his vote early and often. in dessert he doesn't. | ||
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the mystery of your identity is clearly distracting and antitown . | ||
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1. raynpelikoneet 2. VayneAuthority 3. Pandain 4. Spaghetticus 5. kushm4sta 6. Grackaroni 7. JarJarDrinks 8. Artanis[Xp] 9. LSB 10. Xatalos 11. Plutarch 12. Alakaslam 13. Corazon 14. xigxag 15. sidesprang 16. bumatlarge 17. Holyflare 18. purpletrator have so much work to do so ill be back later tonight. plz dont spam too much! | ||
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hes got a lot of decent scumhunting so far. | ||
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cant really go into detail atm cause i gots shits to do | ||
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On December 10 2013 22:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'm smelling some OMGUS here. 1) Yes, I have a scum read on you. I've already explained why; scattershooting and seeing what sticks. Now that town sentiment has changed onto me, you seem to find it fitting to go after me too. I don't like it. 2) It doesn't change my read on you. I find the reasons you went after Corazon lacking and stemming from the feeling that you can secure a lynch easily on him. 3) Yes, if you read my filter you'd have seen that I liked Rayn's points on Purple and LSB's points on Sidesprang, but I'm happy where my vote is right now. don't agree with this quote but I find it pretty strongly town. Points 1 and 2 feel like townie reasoning. My read on him is not super strong though. | ||
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On December 11 2013 01:58 bumatlarge wrote: Spaghetti man is pretty mafia. I'd lynch him if pandain was here. Kushmasta seems super silly. If you have to (/green) things this early that aren't questions to the host, you are playing badly. ##Vote Pandain i greened your mom. But seriously this is the worst post in the game! Some real oatsmaster level shit going on here. Why is speghetti mafia? Why are you already voting for a lurker? | ||
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On December 10 2013 13:57 bumatlarge wrote: Facts>Analysis>information. Information is subjectively valued. In standard setups, information is massively overshadowed by conclusions drawn from all information. Information is a too insubstantial this early. I'd be more then happy to keep filling up the thread with this gentleman talk if you'll oblige. Multiple posts like this! like anyone wants to learn how to play mafia from bumatlarge... ##unvote ##vote bumatlarge Also if he were town, I would definitely expect scum to have jumped on him by now, since he is so obviously scummy (enjoy that kush logic) | ||
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On December 11 2013 02:40 bumatlarge wrote: Reading your fitler, I'm probably wrong. I didn't remember you posting alot early, but you did and it was better. You seem aggravated, I'd actually suggest stepping away from mafia for an hour or two and come back with a fresh mind. You sure do ask a lot of questions. That's great but it's an easy way for scum to post. Think of how easy it is to poke around new threads and post question marks. Super minor though. Your last few posts seem a little too vicious for what you are calling out. Activity is looking great this game, so let's not discuss how big our filters are, when your filter is not hard for you to generate as scum. There are much worse offenders then you, I'll try to find them. You should vote pandain though. another post from bum with 0 town indicative content. Why is speghetti scum? | ||
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Bum is there a reason you want alakaslam here d2? Or did you forget about him or what? | ||
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On December 11 2013 03:12 bumatlarge wrote: I'll answer if you are asking, not if Kush is. I was under the impression that Spagman started posting after a bunch of people who I did not think were mafia in the thread started to think that alot of people posting in the thread were not mafia. I saw an anarchist intent in Spaghetti's posts, but I was incorrect. His posts seemed more emotional then scum driven. Why??? You are acting like a child and you are hurting my feelings. ##unvote this explanation makes sense though | ||
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On December 11 2013 03:36 Alakaslam wrote: Hello kushm4sta Have you seen the jarjardrinks? Perhaps another look, I don't know what to say there- yet. yeah i agree that his activity pattern is scummy. He only posts on his own terms. Posts are thought out /constructed. Posts just as little as he can without being considered a lurker. | ||
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On December 11 2013 03:40 bumatlarge wrote: Here Kush. This is a problem you should work on if you are town. Try going off what other people have said about your reads instead of trail blazing and your interactions will make you a much more desirable townie! Cool thanks for the tips dude! Here's some for you. l2play cause frankly it's a complete disgrace that you play how you do after over 30 fucking games. | ||
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On December 11 2013 03:53 JarJarDrinks wrote: Any comments on this? @ least would like to hear what people think of sidespring. i think it's equally dumb as either alignment, 100% alignment neutral. What is your point sir? btw voting you now based on on your scummy posting pattern. Also you bring up your shit point and want people to comment on it like its gold. ##unvote ##vote jarjar | ||
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just read jarjar's filter and i disagree with myself | ||
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I think sidespring is town. He is kind of new it seems like.He says something like "I think they are scummy but not scummy enough to vote for them." That is strikes me as honest and not scummy. Also there is this quote: On December 10 2013 21:41 sidesprang wrote: Well after rereading Cora he got a bad start and I feel he might have problems playing how he wanted to play as he is getting attacked from a lot of people. Your first point is valid yet, still to early to fault him for not going after lurkers, especially considering the heat he had on him. So for me to get a better read on Cora he needs talk more, and specificaly tell us why he finds you and purple suspicous. I would also like to ask if his views on Xatolas has changed at all, considering all this meta talk. fine townie reasoning for wishy washiness regarding cora. | ||
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VAYNE - only thing he's done is pretend to be an expert on kush meta pandain - tries to be useful without actually doing anything town (tells alaka to stfu) LSB - hasn't done much, weak ass case on side | ||
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On December 11 2013 05:33 VayneAuthority wrote: I'd venture to say plutarch is town, that's about it right now. The town is being pulled into too many directions to discern who is scum without some flips. cool so how many townies need to die before you have reads? ##unvote ##vote vayne | ||
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If I had extra information about plutarch from our hypoethetical scumqt, why would I advertise that in a fluff smurfcase? | ||
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Anyone read corazon's last post? The ratio of size to content of that post is the highest in the game. | ||
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if you dont have scumreads, have you been reading, be honst. | ||
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LXIII: This is the exception I’ve been claiming. This is the time that I was able to catch scumsign early, grabbed a hold, and stayed on it until I was blue sniped N1. It turned out VA was an assassin, but I don’t differentiate between the two as town. speghetti is so funny | ||
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but how did having a data point WHICH WAS COPMLETELY INDEPENDENT of all the scum data points, help you play well? | ||
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that is a terrible reason to vote for someone. who do you think is SCUM? | ||
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On December 12 2013 02:14 purpletrator wrote: hey kush, why did/do you have me as green? why do you care? | ||
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On December 12 2013 02:39 VayneAuthority wrote: it's not ridiculous at all if you consider how I play mafia. I KILL these kind of players at night because I find it more enjoyable to play with people that can actually scumhunt and try to trick them. Between that and my blue kill sniping I don't see how it is farfetch'd at all. So you would never push a mislynch on slam because he is so bad for town, but you would nk him??/ that makes no sense. also you are using that reasoning to townread speghetti, when you are describing it as it only applies to you. | ||
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That he has one of the longer filters in the game makes him lean town. Also I think it's not so much that he hasn't gotten into this game, but more like he thinks he is so awesome now for getting nk on night 1 that he doesn't even have to try. That is indicated by this quote: This isn't why I've scaled back, but it also doesn't help my motives that I was NKed early that game. So that's why he is active but sucks hard compared to previous towngames. | ||
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On December 10 2013 20:43 Spaghetticus wrote: Stop it. It's a waste of time and now you're distracting others. Any read you get on him will be plausibly deniable. There is no way you will improve your reads by obsessing over his identity. Meta-reads are already dubious (though still useful), adding an extra layer of probability (you being correct in your read on him) renders them obsolete. It's got about the same chance of being successful as a D1 association case. I've already made adjustments on my lean for both of you based on this distraction. If you are town you won't want me getting further confused no? goes on to make a terrible d1 association case | ||
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On December 12 2013 02:56 purpletrator wrote: So kush you wont tell me why you had/have me as town? nope. I hope it grows into some healthy suspicion of me. | ||
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##unvote ##vote vayne | ||
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On December 12 2013 03:13 purpletrator wrote: you shouldnt scumread him for it either. i can scumread him for having zero reads, zero thoughts indicative of towniness, and an illogical argument regarding the towniness of pushing slam's lynch. | ||
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On December 12 2013 06:23 JarJarDrinks wrote: Kush, please answer this when you return. blame rayn | ||
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On December 12 2013 13:07 JarJarDrinks wrote: Really? That's your answer? Reposting this again + Show Spoiler + On December 12 2013 06:35 JarJarDrinks wrote: Just to add to this. I just reread your filter and I have no idea how you ended up w/ your vote on spag. Why did you defend him so much and then vote him? So basically, not only did you never have spag as a scumread, but you defended him a whole bunch throughout the day. There's no way to interpret that other than: You voted for someone that you believed to be town. Do you deny this? i lynched him for information | ||
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On December 12 2013 13:14 bumatlarge wrote: Can you post your magically list of townies again? Did you color in the red ones?! mr 30+ games do you know how filters work? | ||
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I do think artanis is red. Anyone write a case yet? | ||
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On December 13 2013 11:55 Alakaslam wrote: ##Vote: Xigxag why do you vote xigxig after you get done talking about how red vayne is? | ||
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On December 13 2013 20:30 Plutarch wrote: Not good enough. Also corazon is the retarded vig. Which you would know if you read the thread at all. yeah i did know that actually but i kind of forgot | ||
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He seems like a chicken with his head cut off compared to his townplay ive seen elsewhere. | ||
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On December 13 2013 20:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: I kinda want to lynch Plutarch for that post. I called LSB out for his voting behavior on D!, especially asked you about it. NOW it's relevant. You are scum. what the fuck is this rayn???? you call out something as scummy d1. He incorporates it into a larger case. HOW DOES THAT EVEN BEGIN TO MAKE PLUTARCH LOOK SCUMMY?? | ||
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"plutarch was indecisive about his lsb read d1 when i showed him similar evidence" that really doesn't make him scummy at all. This is crazy even for you rayn. I'm worried about you bro.(alignment wise) | ||
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On December 13 2013 21:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote: How about actually commenting on the content? no quotes i dont see why any of those things make him scum. All i see is you pejoratively describing townplay. | ||
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I came around to artanis being town. His push for xatalos seems really genuine, and I think it might be right. Still need to read xatalos' filter, but let me just say I am super unimpressed with his recent long post. If you look it actually contains deceptively little content. On December 14 2013 03:07 Xatalos wrote: + Show Spoiler + On December 13 2013 20:20 sidesprang wrote: Ok was busy yesterday, had exam today. Read the thread and i'm now starting on filters. What I've noted so far is, that I noticed people wanted to try to find mafia from looking at the voting pattern. Which I think is a valid way of doing things. One thing that caught my mind was. There was deffo some suspicious votes happening, I think we all agree on that. But for one of those suspicious votes to actually be a mafia, wont VA have to be mafia. Like I mean no mafia member should vote like that unless they try to save his teammate. So my thought is VA = Mafia -> susp votes = mafia VA = Town-> susp votes = town Of course there is also the possibility that its just bad play in general. But I think the link is worth to take note of. Only read purps filter for today, but I find that one very scummy in general. He is not really doing much. He said he had a town read on cora, then 2 hours after he proceeds to vote on him. I think it had something to do with the notes. I'll look more into why he did that flip later. And he is also defending VA a lot. All that together with the very weak reason for voting spag makes him very scummy in my eyes. I wont cast any votes untill I get to read the rest, but I need some sleep first. Not necessarily. Scum can make suspicious votes even if it's town vs town. Naturally the suspicious votes are even more suspicious if VA is scum. On December 13 2013 21:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Plutarch, Rayn, Kush, and anyone else here please comment on my points regarding Xatalos. I don't like that he's not being discussed at all. Surprisingly I agree with Kush. Rayn is attacking one of the only players he still had a strong townread on early on for reasons I find incomprehensible. Plutarch is pretty much the most townie guy around right now, and he's attacked for rehashing reads. Rayn's intent seems to be to make no one trust eachother to prevent town from cooperating. He's also called both myself and Xatalos scum, but mentioned before that he doesn't think we can both be scum. Fast forward to today and he hasn't mentioned either of us in any real way. He hasn't tried to get to know our alignment despite calling us both scummy and at the same time saying we can't both be scum (which I'd also like an explanation for). Rayn knows too much and seems to have a scum agenda on his mind. He also hasn't answered what that 'very scummy thing' was that he quoted despite both myself and Xatalos asking what it is. These are pretty much non-points / things I have already explained (and Artanis clearly hasn't read). Some of the points are even townie for me (overall aggression, generating discussion, pressuring a lot). That's how I've basically always started the game as town (and recently as scum too -> pretty much null). Really quite bad reasons for wanting to lynch me #1. Incidentally, this "case" is a decent additional reason to lynch Artanis. How many would be up for lynching Artanis today? rayn, you at least mentioned that Artanis was scummy N1. Please, get off Plutarch and lynch a much scummier player (Plutarch isn't even scummy, and it puzzles me that you're going for him). On December 13 2013 05:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Holyflare the Medic has been shot by an ass-bullet! bumatlarge the Civilian has been eaten by Sebastian! Holyflare's death doesn't give that much new info in itself, but the more important part is that it confirms Corazon as a (misguided) Vigi. Regardless, he's town, which makes Artanis look (very slightly) better and probably me/Plutarch worse. But what's done is done, and it's time to move on. (as a sidenote, from the shock that this Vigi shot caused, I probably won't be trusting Vigilantes to make sensible choices in the future). bum's death is a big mystery to me, since he did pretty much nothing all game. Does anyone have an idea about why the SK would shoot him? Maybe he thought bum was scum? In that case there might be some merit in going through who suspected bum. - - - - Other players who would be decent lynches are purple and LSB. - purple's vote wasn't that scummy, but he's been lurking and posting useless one-liners all game... and now we also know that Corazon is town, which makes purple slightly more likely scum - LSB has been throwing his vote around meaninglessly all game... hasn't truly pushed anything, just bandwagoned or thrown his vote here or there... and his Spag vote was actually about as scummy as that of Artanis VA, kush, Grackaroni and sidesprang aren't looking good either. VA has been just targeting the easiest lynches, kush happily lynched his own townread, Grackaroni's vote was pretty scummy too and sidesprang has barely posted enough to avoid being policy lynched. I think we should start from Artanis and continue from there. There are a lot of scummy players, but it should get easier when one is flipped. 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On December 14 2013 03:38 Xatalos wrote: Yeah, that has to be it. I can't comprehend LSB playing like this as town. looks like a bus | ||
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come join the lsb wagon. You have to follow through with your bus. | ||
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On December 14 2013 07:57 Aquanim wrote: Please don't discuss Corazon's posts after his replace out, especially not provocatively. The matter has been resolved. this appeasement is beyond ridiculous. We can discuss corazon's posts if we want. | ||
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bh simmer down son i just got pissed mods telling us what to do . i agree corazon's opinions and thoughts are useless despite the fact that he is confirmed town. | ||
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Still dont have a solid scumread on him though. | ||
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On December 14 2013 16:31 Alakaslam wrote: This doesn't describe me. I never read Cora's filter but I certainly didn't ignore him either. Anyway I tried to be all Chezinu this game and I don't promise I won't continue, but for now, I have stopped in the interest of not being a mislynch and giving scum/disgruntled town vitriol fuel. I am suspicious of Rayne and LSB. Was going to put this before going to watch the hobbit but it stayed in my phone. Just now caught it. Long absence then you come back with this post... really not looking good. Mostly all you do here is engage BH on the most useless topic of conversation, corazon. You repeat yourself about how you are changing your playstyle. Then the shortest part is how you are suspicious of rayn and lsb. This one line declaration of suspicion is also a word for word repost. You should give reasons why you find these people suspicious, because right now your filter looks like it is 99% filler. | ||
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Your read on LSB is being affected by Artanis' read on LSB? Seems like total wifom to me. | ||
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So i don't think the "it's too easy" defense can be made. Yes LSB is superficially scummy, but that doesn't mean he isn't scum. If it smells like scum and tastes like scum then it's probably scum. | ||
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also plutarch is hapa that is confirmed | ||
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Have you read his filter? | ||
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Scum usually don't defend each other so blatantly. Also, a common scum tactic is to town read someone who is acting superficially scummy (aka trolly) like me or vayne. They do this people are going to want to lynch us no matter what, and it's easy to reverse their read on us, and it's an easy way to look like they are contributing. | ||
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(JarJarDrinks) Xatalos Alakaslam (xigxag) then lsb for sk | ||
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yes i caught you in my second newbie and i have caught you again. | ||
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HAPA Also hapa coached the game plutarch said he read more than once. | ||
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On December 16 2013 00:15 Xatalos wrote: Just like you owned the "town" purpletrator. Is there any reason why you were away for the deadline happenings and came back after that to say you thought he was townie? yeah i had to take a plane over to finland to hook up with your mom | ||
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On December 16 2013 01:10 Xatalos wrote: Do you think Plutarch is scum for this then? I really think he's just a misguided townie. He basically single-handedly enabled the purple lynch too. Well I'm always relatively friendly, but I mean... I think I've been much more aggro than I would have been as SK. But who knows, it's hard to say. not sure about my other reads but xatalos is definitely scum. artanis may be busing. Subtly wishy washy, leading question. Why would you even say this as town?? Why would you even suggest plutarch was scum for suggesting he knows who teh sk is?? | ||
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On December 16 2013 03:34 JarJarDrinks wrote: As much as I'd like the fact that I pushed hard for a townie lynch 2 days in a row to be false, I don't understand how Vayne can be scum anymore. Purple tried to vote Vayne last minute. What purpose could that serve? I was pretty much the only person that thought Vayne was scum. Meanwhile the whole town suspected purple. Why would scum sacrifice Vayne to keep the very scummy Purple in the game? actually a really good point imo. | ||
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On December 16 2013 05:18 Plutarch wrote: Please read my posts. Sigh, I explained this already. Vayne was forced to vote for purple as the leading counterwagon, just as purp was forced to crossvote vayne. if they had not done so they would have looked awful. Crossvoting allowed them a chance to live unless people thought hard enough about it. Please. I spent a lot of time writing that analysis. READ MY POSTS ONCE I AM DEAD. LYNCH VAYNE AND XATALOS. ah if this was the situation, then I unagree with jarjar and agree with hapa. This is actually a pretty serious misrepresentation that you've made jarjar. And it's one I've seen scum do before. "Look how this guy did something he would do as either alignment! It must mean he is X alignment!" FOS jarjar | ||
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