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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 11 2013 13:26 GMT
#1041
Yeah me too. What do you make of LSB's logic behind his votes? The post i made about his voting behavior. Do you think it makes sense because to me it really does not.
table for two on a tv tray
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 11 2013 13:30 GMT
#1042
He moved his vote around a bit which I like. He doesn't make sense at all which I don't. Is that scummy though? I'm not so sure.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 11 2013 13:31 GMT
#1043
Xatalos are you around? what do you think of a spag lynch now?
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 11 2013 13:32 GMT
#1044
LSB seems pretty lurky and apathetic towards the lynch so far. He's definitely someone worth careful observing.

I'm glad that other people can see why Cora is suspicious.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 11 2013 13:37 GMT
#1045
On December 11 2013 22:31 Plutarch wrote:
Xatalos are you around? what do you think of a spag lynch now?


On my phone, but yes.

I'm not sure because I got a townish vibe from those posts I mentioned earlier. His lack of scumhunting really does make him look more scummy, though. It'd be preferable to Alakaslam, and since it looks like Artanis is not happening today, or probably purple/Cora, it seems like a decent choice in this situation.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 11 2013 13:40 GMT
#1046
Yeah I could lynch purple or cora also.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 11 2013 13:41 GMT
#1047
Also Xigxag has disappeared after being somewhat active yesterday.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 11 2013 13:48 GMT
#1048
I should reread XigXag when I get home. For now, my preferred option would be either purple or Cora. Which one do you think is more scummy? I should reread both as well.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
sidesprang
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway1033 Posts
December 11 2013 13:48 GMT
#1049
On December 11 2013 22:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
I also like kush and Xata, I in general agree with a lot of what they are saying and they are playing very pro town imo.

Interesting. If you like what Xatalos has said why do you seem to not have a read on Artanis because that's what Xatalos has mostly talked about?


I dont see why I need to have a scumread on Artanis just because I townread Xata, In general I townread Xata because he is scumhunting, and he is scumhunting in a decent way IMO, not like LSD. He also brought up some good pro-town points regarding not lynching slam, which if you were mafia I dont see any reason to do (unless slam is mafia which I rate as a 4/18 probabiltiy for).

On December 11 2013 22:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sidesprang could you elaborate more on this in detail:
Show nested quote +
I also like kush and Xata, I in general agree with a lot of what they are saying and they are playing very pro town imo.


Kush is mostly my gut, I feel he is going after the right people, poking them when he sees something, and in general have valid points.




Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 11 2013 13:58 GMT
#1050
Well sidesprang, what IS your read on Artanis..?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
December 11 2013 14:05 GMT
#1051
Hey, just want to apologize for my inactivity. I hate when people people give real life excuses so I wont. I'll just say sorry and I'll try to make up for it going forward.

Been following loosely the last bunch of pages. Gonna catch up for real and will post my thoughts shortly.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 11 2013 14:05 GMT
#1052
Going to be in an exam for a couple of hours soon, but I should be back sometime before deadline.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
December 11 2013 14:10 GMT
#1053
I’m worried about a Kush+Pluto scumteam. It’s association which is why I didn’t want to post anything until D2, but I've got some reasoning, and don’t see too much harm in putting it on the table. I've also got to provide some evidence that I've been thinking about the game outside of posting responses in real time.

On December 10 2013 07:03 kushm4sta wrote:
that guy is definitely not marv btw.

I’m tentative about claiming I know anything about how Kush works, but this seems fairly straight forward. He is very confident of this.
A while later this happens:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 10 2013 18:48 Holyflare wrote:
is you marv, plu?

To which Kush replies:
On December 10 2013 18:58 kushm4sta wrote:
marv not pluto
isn't xatalos talking way too much to be scum?


(This is why you don’t talk about smurfs and shit holyflare btw. )

On December 10 2013 20:08 kushm4sta wrote:
townlist

xatalos - talking a lot early game for no reason at all! Ive seen him play scum and he didn't post that much. Has this been changed by recent meta?
holyflare- scum kill this dude d1

yup i haven't read everything yet
~~
can i get some consolidation please? cause i dont want to read all this complicated shit everyone is writing.

ok standby for next post which will contain important shit

Kush heralds in his next post. Which isn’t particularly relevant, but does confirm that his next post is a play. He wants people to pay attention, it holds motive and isn’t just random kush bs.
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 10 2013 20:14 kushm4sta wrote:
smurfread on plutarch
He is definitely not marv.
from pregame:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 05:37 Plutarch wrote:

marv's taste in music is not this dumb. And if it was he wouldn't advertise it.


Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 06:07 Plutarch wrote:
On December 10 2013 06:02 Corazon wrote:
I just want to let you all know that I have some English work to do in the next two days so don't expect me to be super-active....

....If you are town and you are lurking, expect to be under the gun during the game and expect me to not be very nice to you post-game. I will be weighing activity a lot heavier in my voting decision this game than I have in the past. You all are warned. If you are going to take a sieste the entire time and not participate, I am going to be on you until you do so.

That is all.


I see some dissonance between your first point and your second. Why would you be so inclined towards policy on low activity players when you have just acknowledged that people can be town and not be active?

Perhaps as you say you only require town to be active and you are, in fact, scum?


Marv would never write a sentence as useless as this last one.

Plutarch is some newish player tryharding. Could be koshi.

Kush is directive and salient like never before. But what does he want us to know?
That this player is not marv, and people should not treat him as such?
…or that he’s not actually receiving information that the rest of us aren’t?
Why, out of all his contributions is he wasting this level of analysis on smurfs? Why is he breaking persona for this?

This post reads to me as ‘shit, I’ve stepped out and need to quickfix’

- It implies he doesn’t have info on Plut that we don’t

- It gives the impression that there is actually someone ticking away behind the façade

- It distances him from Pluto by denouncing his posts as stupid

- It finishes off by naming a player at random that it might be

- It encourages others to waste time thinking about who the smurf might be

The way Kush moves with purpose drew my attention. It seems that he knows the identity of Pluto and doesn’t want to be seen that way. Whether this is because they are in a scumQT together or because he was told outside of the game, I don’t know.

Other than this, I don't have any further reads on Kush (as he is deliberately elusive), and think Pluto plays pretty townish. I do however, have a lot of respect for Plutarch's ability at this game, and think it likely he can play convincing town as either alignment.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 11 2013 14:15 GMT
#1054
So you think I, as scum with kush, Fucking ripped XigXag to shreds for giving Kush a town read?
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
December 11 2013 14:17 GMT
#1055
Speak to me people. I should be around until lynch.

Also, I'd like to clarify, I was never actually 'catching up'. I was rereading. I still haven't completely reread the whole thread, it didn't seem to be yielding much for the effort involved.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 11 2013 14:17 GMT
#1056
Also, Never ever ever make association cases before people have flipped.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
December 11 2013 14:19 GMT
#1057
I respect your ability as I said Pluto. The town read was bad, you would know this as either alignment.

I'm also only FOSing you. I know that this is not strong enough to get either of you lynched, and I'm not confident enough either way to actually want you lynched.

My purpose behind this post was to demonstrate that I've been thinking as a town. You're acting crazy defensive tho.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 11 2013 14:21 GMT
#1058
So your case is kush knows who Plutarch is but is acting like he doesn't. fucking brilliant..
table for two on a tv tray
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 11 2013 14:23 GMT
#1059
Sorry I don't have great scum reads right now, but I think slam is blue. He could just be random, but his posts indicate a vig or something.

I don't like panda ins reasons. I don't think comparing me to a vastly different game is right, and even then I don't think I'm posting that differently there. And after that he gets on holy for not staying on me. I do agree with Pandain on Slam, but his whole anti policy lynch spiel doesn't sit right with me. Generalizations about scum defending policy lynches seems poorly thought out. Why wouldn't they remark on something that's subjective in either direction? Policy lynches are often revealing, and while I don't think Slam is a good one, it would make it easy for him to get his points across or probably not post.

He says he can decipher slams posts, but I'd like to know because I've been trying to no avail.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 11 2013 14:24 GMT
#1060
@spaghetti Your case is wrong on so many levels.

If I had extra information about plutarch from our hypoethetical scumqt, why would I advertise that in a fluff smurfcase?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
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