II Titanic Mini Mafia - Page 4

On November 16 2013 03:50 Spaghetticus wrote:
I started this a little after Artanis' prodding, it's taken me awhile.

I’m going to have to read through again soon, as not everything is sticking with me. It’s currently 5am and I’ve had four hours sleep in the last 48 hours. I’m also having difficulty catching up on some of the terminology, though I’m gradually cluing in.
I’ll just splurge out my impressions. I won’t make any formal cases just yet, I want to put my thoughts on paper then attend to them once I’m rested. Apologies in advance for poor formatting.

I’m comfortable with confirming Yamato town. This may seem redundant since that’s the general consensus, but I’m very stringent so this is actually a pretty big step.

On my next readthrough I’ll be fine tooth combing for Mocsta and VE. I’ve got precious history with Mocsta, but he’s also quite active. I want to confirm him town if possible. VE seems like the next most obvious, given the amount of material he has provided. I don’t like some of VE’s towncalls, but I think they’ve already been covered by others.

LoneMeow masoning incident:
I find this unsuspicious. I’m probably more interested in those who tried to force this to be an issue.

Artanis and SS:
SS seems dense. The projected paradigm within which he claims to view the world where everyone’s decision making is based entirely on the single factor of whether or not victory is achieved, is silly.

Does he seriously expect people to sit through a month of his needless abuse in order to slightly increase their chances of winning a prizeless endeavour?

Does he seriously think that by espousing his (so far generally unimpressive) logic to the exclusion of compromise in the pursuit of cooperation, he will achieve his intended position of mayor?

I understand that some people have difficulty getting along with others, but it seems to me a cover. I’d like to hear people’s thoughts on his meta. For someone who proclaims his own competency as a vet at the beginning of the thread, this incompetency is not consistent from my (admittedly limited) perspective. It could very easily be used to obscure scummy motives.

Admittedly, there have also been town tells. I've mixed feelings here.

Grack:
The trolling seems a poor move. BC is hammering him, and IMO rightly so. Grack has fluffed, and Grack has not done much else. I can only think that:
- Grack does not care (useless town)
- Grack is in some way trying to modify his meta (unlikely)
- Grack is trying to scumbait (somewhat more likely)
- Grack is scum (most likely)
The Kush4prez line was possibly scumbait, but honestly I don’t see how a town Grack was planning on taking that bait (if successful) and then convincing town of his plan post hoc. The inevitable arse biting his actions have reaped was entirely foreseeable. It’s difficult to see him as town, as his actions have caused little but discord.

Yamato lynching BC:
I’m not sure, but did I miss the case? I see BC as good, I don’t want him to be scum. I’m not sure why that makes us need to lynch him without further information, as so far he’s been valuable.
Unless I’m missing something, Mocsta was right to demand more reasoning for yamato’s platform based on BC.
That said, Mocsta’s reasoning about cost/benefit for lynching BC confused me. If it’s what I think it is, it’s suspiciously dull.

Sharrant:
I’m not entirely certain how this became a thing, I’ll look into it in my next read. There didn't seem enough information at the time to make reads, that it was mentioned so many times sort of makes me think of artificial intervention.

Kushmasta:
His propensity for unpredictable play makes him unsuitable for mayor. Everyone knows this, though I think some take it too far. Policy lynching him seems both poor play and in poor taste. Using him as a vehicle for lynchbait/trolling is also pretty shit. I think people attempting to bring Kush into the spotlight are hard pressed to provide a believable town motive.
Other than that, there are a lot of people that are sliding around on my scale, but also a lot of undercommitment in posts. If you have a read, please don’t just state your conclusion, as it only begs the question, and junks up the thread with people demanding that you elaborate. You may feel like you’re getting straight to the point #lessismore #quietconfidence but the end result is a less cohesive discussion, and a less effective town.