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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Plutarch
Greece515 Posts
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On December 10 2013 22:34 Plutarch wrote: Nothing much really. just thinking aloud mostly. Clearly you are very townie right now. What do you think about this sheep train of distrust rayn? | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On December 10 2013 22:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote: He hasn't done much this game other than defend himself because people have been on his case all the time. This is scummy how? He hasn't mentioned purple much as there hasn't been much of purple to be mentioned. Hating on piggybacking is a completely standard thing to say. Townies are hypocritical all the time. Doesn't make them scum. Returning after you said you'd be gone is more townie than scum in my eyes. If I say I'm gone as scum I'll be gone because I have an aversion to posting as scum that I don't have as townie. Because I didn't find any of the rest of the filter scummy. I don't see what you see. I'm smelling some OMGUS here. 1) Yes, I have a scum read on you. I've already explained why; scattershooting and seeing what sticks. Now that town sentiment has changed onto me, you seem to find it fitting to go after me too. I don't like it. 2) It doesn't change my read on you. I find the reasons you went after Corazon lacking and stemming from the feeling that you can secure a lynch easily on him. 3) Yes, if you read my filter you'd have seen that I liked Rayn's points on Purple and LSB's points on Sidesprang, but I'm happy where my vote is right now. 1) Actually, if you looked at my earlier filter, I already voiced some suspicion of you when you defended Corazon (since he "grabbed attention") while accusing me (even though I grabbed attention intentionally unlike Corazon). With that logic, you should have defended me and accused Corazon (since he just unintentionally grabbed attention, tried to deflect it and then disappeared). While I was doing my aggro and grabbed attention as a natural part of my play... 2) Do you really think that pressure in the first hour of the game = securing a lynch? Granted, my vote is currently on Corazon, but really.... How is it a Mafia play to put heavy pressure at the very start? 3) I agree with those other points, but how am I the scummiest? How does your logic agree with purple and sidesprang being scummy, yet I'm the scummiest (with pretty illogical reasoning, even)? It just doesn't make sense. If something doesn't make sense, it's probably coming from scum. I think your reads on me/Corazon are definitely not making sense. ##Unvote ##Vote Artanis[Xp] | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
On December 10 2013 22:34 Grackaroni wrote: Ok then. ##Vote: Raynepelikoneet Are you scumclaiming? | ||
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Spaghetticus
Australia451 Posts
On December 10 2013 14:05 JarJarDrinks wrote: Very scummy post. You're actually saying that you may sit on your vote regardless of what happens in the thread? Basically giving yourself an built-in excuse to make your vote not matter (and unable to be analyzed) if slam isn't one of the leading wagons? Have you any more thoughts on me now? | ||
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Plutarch
Greece515 Posts
On December 10 2013 22:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: What do you think about this sheep train of distrust rayn? We aren't going to lynch you. You are too big of an asset as town to even think about lynching you for at least 2 days. So i'm not worried. If people try and lynch you I will talk sense into them. Your cases make sense. I wouldn't be worried if I was you. As to the sheeping. Townies sheep at least as often as scum. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
On December 10 2013 22:37 Xatalos wrote: 1) Actually, if you looked at my earlier filter, I already voiced some suspicion of you when you defended Corazon (since he "grabbed attention") while accusing me (even though I grabbed attention intentionally unlike Corazon). With that logic, you should have defended me and accused Corazon (since he just unintentionally grabbed attention, tried to deflect it and then disappeared). While I was doing my aggro and grabbed attention as a natural part of my play... 2) Do you really think that pressure in the first hour of the game = securing a lynch? Granted, my vote is currently on Corazon, but really.... How is it a Mafia play to put heavy pressure at the very start? 3) I agree with those other points, but how am I the scummiest? How does your logic agree with purple and sidesprang being scummy, yet I'm the scummiest (with pretty illogical reasoning, even)? It just doesn't make sense. If something doesn't make sense, it's probably coming from scum. I think your reads on me/Corazon are definitely not making sense. ##Unvote ##Vote Artanis[Xp] 0) So you opened up the option to OMGUS early. That doesn't mean you're not OMGUS'ing. You've just gone full OMGUS. 1) I already told you that what Corazon did wasn't from a scum agenda. What you did conforms to one. Yes, he's been full of excuses and all that, but he hasn't done anything to further a scum agenda which is how you catch scum. 2) Early votes don't mean too much. What I'm saying is that Cora is an easy push and you know it. 3) You're the scummiest because you have the most content and there's more of you to go after. The other two have barely posted and are either smurfs or new, whereas you're held to higher standards. If something doesn't make sense, you try to figure it out. You're not doing that. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
Rayn has a shitty vote (target someone for being dumb), when I explain to him that its shitty he makes no effort to convince me and instead tells other people I am scummy for shutting down his dumb case. I won't be surprised if he is scum and if he is town then he can go lose. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
On December 10 2013 22:43 Grackaroni wrote: Rayn has a shitty vote (target someone for being dumb), when I explain to him that its shitty he makes no effort to convince me and instead tells other people I am scummy for shutting down his dumb case. I won't be surprised if he is scum and if he is town then he can go lose. Rayn made a case on purple then commented on recent events whilst continuing to try to bring his initial case under attention. Xatalos has actively tried to push a scum agenda. Even besides Xata there's plenty of people that look much worse than Rayn. He's not getting lynched today so why are you wasting your vote, and why would you be okay with lynching a town Rayn? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On December 10 2013 22:42 Plutarch wrote: We aren't going to lynch you. You are too big of an asset as town to even think about lynching you for at least 2 days. So i'm not worried. If people try and lynch you I will talk sense into them. Your cases make sense. I wouldn't be worried if I was you. As to the sheeping. Townies sheep at least as often as scum. I'm not worried about getting lynched because i don't get lynched if i don't want to (i.e. when i stay level-headed). I am worried about people trying to affect my level-headness by spreading distrust on my alignment without any reason to do so while having a "reasonable" meta-reasoning to "wonder if this is in fact town rayn". | ||
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Spaghetticus
Australia451 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On December 10 2013 22:43 Grackaroni wrote: Rayn has a shitty vote (target someone for being dumb), when I explain to him that its shitty he makes no effort to convince me and instead tells other people I am scummy for shutting down his dumb case. I won't be surprised if he is scum and if he is town then he can go lose. GRACK how is his case bad in any shape or form? On December 10 2013 13:12 purpletrator wrote: @xata My initial read of LSB was that he was scum for throwing a shitty vote down and only following up when rayn pointed it out. He said how he never noticed my offer to reveal my identity, which I didnt think was townie mentality. If he'd seen it and just ignored it, then sure whatever hes just trolling. But to neglect to read the guy your voting, when his post was literally 1 above yours? That seemed messed up to me. On reading his PYP filter he does similar things where he misses key points in peoples posts. I dont want to go into detail because that game is ongoing. This post alone could just be an entire case and it would be fine, I've highlighted the relevant bit for you (yes all of it). Purple states that his vote on LSB was because he was neglecting to read posts about the target he was on. He then justifies his unvote by saying that he has read an ongoing game - where he does NOT know LSB's alignment - and he does the same thing. What logical thought process is that? TL:DR He does not know LSB's alignment in PYP so how can he unvote based on that game unless he knows his alignment in this one. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On December 10 2013 22:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote: 0) So you opened up the option to OMGUS early. That doesn't mean you're not OMGUS'ing. You've just gone full OMGUS. 1) I already told you that what Corazon did wasn't from a scum agenda. What you did conforms to one. Yes, he's been full of excuses and all that, but he hasn't done anything to further a scum agenda which is how you catch scum. 2) Early votes don't mean too much. What I'm saying is that Cora is an easy push and you know it. 3) You're the scummiest because you have the most content and there's more of you to go after. The other two have barely posted and are either smurfs or new, whereas you're held to higher standards. If something doesn't make sense, you try to figure it out. You're not doing that. Then enlighten me: 1) If my play is a possible scum play, how is it more likely scum than town? 2) Why did you defend Corazon for grabbing attention (while actually he didn't intend to), yet accused me for doing just that ("creating confusion")? 3) How is it not a scum agenda to make excuses for lurking in advance and deflecting attention away from himself (like Corazon)? 4) How is it not a town agenda to create discussion and pressure aggressively (like me)? | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On December 10 2013 22:49 Holyflare wrote: TL:DR He does not know LSB's alignment in PYP so how can he unvote based on that game unless he knows his alignment in this one. LOL. Is that true? He really doesn't know LSB's alignment in PYP??? | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
1. raynpelikoneet 2. VayneAuthority 3. Pandain 4. Spaghetticus 5. kushm4sta 6. Grackaroni 7. JarJarDrinks 8. Artanis[Xp] 9. LSB 10. Xatalos 11. Plutarch 12. Alakaslam 13. Corazon 14. xigxag 15. sidesprang 16. bumatlarge 17. Holyflare 18. purpletrator have so much work to do so ill be back later tonight. plz dont spam too much! | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On December 10 2013 08:46 purpletrator wrote: Can we appeal to the vig(s) to shoot kush and/or slam for us? This guy was the first and was totally left out of being mentioned. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On December 10 2013 22:49 Holyflare wrote: GRACK how is his case bad in any shape or form? This post alone could just be an entire case and it would be fine, I've highlighted the relevant bit for you (yes all of it). Purple states that his vote on LSB was because he was neglecting to read posts about the target he was on. He then justifies his unvote by saying that he has read an ongoing game - where he does NOT know LSB's alignment - and he does the same thing. What logical thought process is that? TL:DR He does not know LSB's alignment in PYP so how can he unvote based on that game unless he knows his alignment in this one. It's not even a matter of if he knows LSB's alignment in that game. Whatever his alignment in PYP is if he does something he did there in this game it does not make him any alignment here. If he does "miss key points in posts" as town, he could as easily miss them as scum and vice versa. It's a weak ass backpedal from a vote that was weak-ass in the first place (as i clearly pointed out in my case). The whole interaction between purple and LSB does not make any sense because nothing purple says is can't evolve into an alignment indicative answer from LSB and he does not even give a clear read on LSB after the interaction. He is not interested in finding out LSB's alignment -> what's the point of the conversation? | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
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