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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 10 2013 16:05 GMT
#746
EBWOP: They really make me
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 10 2013 16:05 GMT
#748
Also Spag you should read a game with Marv and I in it and see that what I say is true
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 10 2013 16:08 GMT
#749
@Rayn
I would but I need to reread things and take notes and I can't do that from phone.

All I see are two people tunneling me and attacking Artanis based on the fact that he is defending me. The rest is either kush bs or random ass banter

I need to reread and I will but for now those were my thoughts

Ok I need to pay attention in math or else I'm gonna fail the final. Be back later
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 10 2013 16:51 GMT
#756
Class ended early. I have 45 minutes to phone post.

@Spag
What argument do I have to answer? His whole case is centered around him twisting my words, as I've said already. You're not reading the thread. Stop your ménage-à-quatre with HF, Xatalos, and Plutarch and start reading the game. You four are ganging up on me because Plutarch twisted my words and you are now attacking Artanis simply because he disagrees and is defending me. Doesn't that scream confirmation bias to anyone?
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 10 2013 20:36 GMT
#841
Why does the vendetta b/w Grack and Spag have to spill into the thread discussion?

BTW Spag, why is it ok to call my answers scummy (I assume because of the defensive nature of the posts) but you don't read the questions?

I'm tired of getting assaulted with illogical and non alignment-indicative questions and I'm tired of getting my words twisted to make me look scummy. Stop it.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 11 2013 16:26 GMT
#1119
Hey guys. I only have time for this one post and then I will be around 45 minutes before the deadline.

Basically I've been afraid to come back to the thread because I know I can't step foot in here without hearing bullshit reasons about why I am scum. Plutarch, Spag, HF, and Xatalos have come after me all game with bullshit reasons and I really didn't want to have to answer them anymore.

Plutarch has twisted my words and has tunneled me all game
Spag has called me scum for being defensive without even reading the questions I've been asked and trying to figure out why I've been defensive
HF doesn't read my filter and makes bullshit cases about me
Xatalos doesn't believe in any read he makes and is bound to change his vote 5 times from now until the deadline

If you guys have some sort of personal vendetta against me, air it out here. If not, stop senselessly tunneling me.

Spag, stop being a dick to people. "I got a 99.5 per cent on my last logic test so I'm obviously better than you" is just a dick thing to say. Solve the game and stop trying to inflate your ego.

Rayn, my rage in Titanic had a real life reason behind it. I was going through some not happy times and I took a break after Mafia because of it. If you are going to make bullshit reasons about it, I'm going to go to the mods. It's not funny.

Slam is a bad lynch, just vig him. Same with kush.

I don't think it matters who is the best lynch to me because every time I post i get hounded by these 4 asking me to "answer the case" which I have answered a bajillion times. I can't contribute with these 4 breathing down my neck.

So either lynch me or stop with the bullshit.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 11 2013 16:36 GMT
#1122
On December 12 2013 01:33 Spaghetticus wrote:
I didn't say that Corazon. He accused my logic of being bad. It isn't. I'm forcing him to look for alternative explanations because he's wrong. It wasn't simply pulling rank, it was a reason why he's wrong. That it fitted together with a mild burn was just the way the words came together in my head.

Spag. No. You've been a dick to me in the same reason.
Why are you telling him to look for alternate explanations for something when you blatantly told me I was scum for my responses to questions that you said you weren't going to read? It's really hypocritical.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 11 2013 16:45 GMT
#1125
On December 12 2013 01:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Corazon tbh it seems like you have some personal vendetta against everyone and that stops you from contributing anything but mindless rage against other people. Nobody is being dick to anyone here, except you.

Could you answer this:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 19:03 Plutarch wrote:
On December 10 2013 18:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Plutarch i don't like this:
I see some dissonance between your first point and your second. Why would you be so inclined towards policy on low activity players when you have just acknowledged that people can be town and not be active?

Perhaps as you say you only require town to be active and you are, in fact, scum?

That is, as Cora says, clearly twisting his words.


I disagree. It didn't make sense that someone could state they aren't going to be super active (as town presumably) and then lynch based on an activity metric.

Regardless that was my first post which are always slight stretches. I find the part where Cora refuses outright to answer my question and instead forcefully derails the discussion to be much more interesting.

Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 19:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Plutarch you mean this post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436388&currentpage=19#374

??

Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 19:09 Plutarch wrote:
It starts from that post and continues on until his extended absence.

I think that's a reasonable accusation against you and you should answer it.

After that could you tell us who would you like to see lynched?

Read my filter Rayn.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 11 2013 17:01 GMT
#1137
I'd vote Spag out of the game just to have one less person mindlessly accusing me.

I do appreciate the townies that are using their brains and realizing the attacks against me are blatant lies or small things blown out of proportion.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 11 2013 18:00 GMT
#1189
To whomever asked: yes I have notes until page 21. I've been too busy to take notes since then. I will probably pick up with the notes starting D2. Do you want to see them? There are only 3 or so major points in them. One on Spag, one on purple, and one on Vayne
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 11 2013 19:06 GMT
#1243
Xatalos was in my notes. I was talking about things I hadn't mentioned yet. I can't post them now because I am at school but I will post them when I get home.

Purple is just dying to lynch the easiest target. Lol
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 11 2013 20:39 GMT
#1286
Fuck you guys. Do you understand that sometimes I have to have a real life? I can't sit on my computer and play mafia 24/7. This town is making it impossible for me to do anything because anytime I say I will do something, I get flak for it because I don't have it in 5 minutes. How am I supposed to do anything in this town? Why do you think I don't feel like participating anymore?

Anyways, here are my notes up through page 21. They are more of a summary of the game but I did point out where I was suspicious of things or if they had conclusions or stuck out for me. They help me because it forces me to reread the game, but it is time-consuming.

+ Show Spoiler +
Plutarch with a really useless post to call out Slam to begin, says he has to leave and does
Spag with a really bad first post coming into the thread and then leaving
Plutarch then twists my words and attacks me for no reason, HF jumps on bandwagon
HF tries to justify jumping on the bandwagon, citing “new information”
Xatalos jumps on the bandwagon as well, not reading my response “looks like the game is starting well”
Artanis challenges HF on whether talking about post restriction is scum or town
Plutarch equates pressuring lurkers to LAL
Xatalos votes for me, seems like he sees the bandwagon forming and wants to be the first one on it, then calls out slam for being inactive (conflict of interest)
Purpletraitor “I am VT”
Spag asks HF/Grack if their gamestyle is going to be different as town (what kind of question is this?), says that he will vote for a trolling Grack
LSB enters by voting Purple, screams of trolliness and randomness

HF makes a really terrible case and votes for me. He jumps way too hard to conclusions, saying I OMGUS’d and was playing defensive. Was he paying any attention at all to Basics mafia?
Xatalos calls out a third person (kush), saying he will lynch a trolling kush
Artanis defends me, saying that scum would not be so open with their play
VA makes a decent but wrong point. Give him town cred for trying but he is wrong (also says he will not vote for me. He wants the right lynch, not the easy one. Big town cred)

Xatalos +1s HF
Xatalos attacks me, saying my post was “passable non-contribution” (which he is wrong)
Kush proclaims he is doing a lurk strat...help us plz
Spag defends himself, basically very defensive like me but he doesn’t get called out for it
Alakaslam points out that Xatalos says Slam is scummier, yet votes for me
Artanis/Slam say Xatalos is throwing shit around, Artanis votes for him
Xatalos: “I’m always really aggressive as town” there is difference between being aggressive and throwing shit around
Xatalos says my first post hoped people would glance over it. Makes no sense as if that was my goal, I would not have posted it first and attracted attention to myself

Rayn enters, votes for Purple, Artanis disagrees about “scummiest vote in thread”
LSB fears townie on townie action
Artanis asks LSB for reads, LSB replies it is too early but says Xatalos needs a filter check
HF attacks me without reading my filter, says that I’m attacking the flavor of the thread but that is exactly what he is doing to me (???)
Xatalos says that his aggression is townie and he likes the start to the game (ofc he is going to say that, it’s non-indicative)
Purple gets all mad and votes LSB, saying LSB is out to get him even though LSB isn’t (??)
HF trying to draw discussion away from Xatalos but it was kind of off him for a page or so
Slam is posting in riddles...damn it
Xatalos finally talks about someone besides me, asks Spag for reads
Xatalos calls me out for playing defensive cause I’ve had to defend his shit, so scummy
Slam T.T votes for Xatalos
HF makes another shit case and forgets to see how I defend his first one
More T.T Slam...maybe he only makes sense when he is scum. Draws Spag’s vote
Xatalos thinks sleeping is a scum tell....lol
VA votes for Slam...i don’t mind that
Spag wants to throw away D1 to lynch Slam...T.T
Xatalos attacks another player, votes for Kush
Xatalos calls out purple
Xatalos votes for me. This guy can’t keep his story straight

Town Reads: VA
Scum Reads (in order): Xatalos, HF, purple (weak)

Keep in mind that this was only until page 21 and I must admit I've been a bit lost since then. I'd be down for a Spag lynch though. The guy is being a dick and has admitted to attacking me without looking at the bigger picture and then calls Rayn out for doing the same thing.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 11 2013 20:40 GMT
#1289
Can we please not lynch Slam? We should just vig him. We're not going to find out jack shit from his lynching.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 11 2013 20:42 GMT
#1297
On December 12 2013 05:41 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 05:40 Corazon wrote:
Can we please not lynch Slam? We should just vig him. We're not going to find out jack shit from his lynching.

Have you looked act vote counts recently?

Sorry. It's just that a lot of discussion recently has been about whether to policy lynch Slam or not. I just assumed for some reason that he was 2nd in votes.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 11 2013 20:43 GMT
#1298
Xatalos do you believe in any of the accusations you make?
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 11 2013 20:45 GMT
#1304
Yeah I might as well hammer Spag. Maybe I can have some breathing room with him gone.

##unvote
##Vote: Spaghetticus
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 11 2013 20:46 GMT
#1305
On December 12 2013 05:44 JarJarDrinks wrote:
@Cora

when you take notes, you use font color tags?

No. I highlighted those when I posted because that was the important information i wanted to share. It was just to make reading easier.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 11 2013 20:51 GMT
#1313
On December 12 2013 05:51 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 05:43 Corazon wrote:
Xatalos do you believe in any of the accusations you make?


?

Do you have some sort of win-con to call everyone scum?
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 11 2013 20:54 GMT
#1316
On December 12 2013 05:53 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 05:51 Corazon wrote:
On December 12 2013 05:51 Xatalos wrote:
On December 12 2013 05:43 Corazon wrote:
Xatalos do you believe in any of the accusations you make?


?

Do you have some sort of win-con to call everyone scum?


Do you have some sort of a win-con to call scum everyone who call you scum?

Well seeing as everyone has taken a shot at me this game, I don't think I have a choice.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 11 2013 21:08 GMT
#1343
On December 12 2013 06:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 06:04 Xatalos wrote:
Hmmm.

That was a mess of a deadline. I'm sure the vote swings tell something though (unlike with a Alakaslam lynch).

So do you or do you not think vayne is mafia? Or wtf is this about?

It's Xatalos not having any confidence in his reads. He's just faking activity.
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