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United Kingdom30774 Posts
On December 10 2013 16:32 xigxag wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 16:29 Holyflare wrote:
So, then what do you think on the points that I/LSB raised on sidesprang's introduction to the thread?
Also, just because they are not good lynches does not mean you can't elaborate on your reads on them, especially as they were both mentioned on your entry and are part of current events. You've given the information now so why was it that it needed to be dug for rather than your free kush town read and your need to look at alak more read? I found them unimportant. Noting I had to say had been unsaid by the thread on the subjects of those two players. Things I had to say on Kush had been left unsaid.
So you found the two players who have the most votes in the game at the moment unimportant to comment on at all? Are you just intentionally wanting to play oblivious to current events or what?
You also mention in your entry post that Slam was "needed to be looked at more" and now you discredit that he could actually be scum too? Why is lynching slam not an attempt to lynch scum?
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On December 10 2013 16:38 Plutarch wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 16:37 xigxag wrote:On December 10 2013 16:34 Plutarch wrote:On December 10 2013 16:25 xigxag wrote:
I think neither Corazon or Xatalos are good lynches. Which is why I mentioned neither of them.
Cor's first post was atrocious, you'll have no arguments from me on that front. His follow up as been too attention grabbing for me to desire to vote him on day one. He is worth pressuring though and I need to understand him more to get a real read on him which I would be willing to commit to.
Xatalos pooped on everyone in a dumb way early in the game. Alienating that many players as scum early on is unwise, he loses too much support for his lynch should he do that. It makes me uncomfortable to lynch him day one. I still need to know more of course but for now I find him non lynchable, Also there is a thing about him which suggests non-scum. I haven't decided if it suggests Sebastian the crab or town but it does suggest non-town.
As of this moment I have not yet found a player I am willing to lynch. You can tell by the way my vote has not yet fallen on anyone. Basically XigXag is saying he doesn't think Xatalos or Cora are good lynches then goes on to agree that cora was scummy and list scummy things about both. But makes sure he doesn't commit to a read. Oh and he doesn't know who he wants to lynch yet. Basically the scummiest most wishy-washy post in existence. In fact the only non wishy-washy thing he has posted is an inexplicable town read on kush that he hard defends based off absolutely nothing. Which in itself is scummy. Xigxag is scum. yes, yes. Very nice. You don't like me. I get it. It's nothing personal. Just my job to find scum. And you happen to be scum.
Both my role pm and I disagree with you.
Talk to me about Vayne. He is advocating a policy lynch, has attempted to appear active and yet has not done anything with that activity. He is suggesting I read another thread and when I did he says that thread is invalid due to yet another thread.
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On December 10 2013 16:40 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 16:32 xigxag wrote:On December 10 2013 16:29 Holyflare wrote:
So, then what do you think on the points that I/LSB raised on sidesprang's introduction to the thread?
Also, just because they are not good lynches does not mean you can't elaborate on your reads on them, especially as they were both mentioned on your entry and are part of current events. You've given the information now so why was it that it needed to be dug for rather than your free kush town read and your need to look at alak more read? I found them unimportant. Noting I had to say had been unsaid by the thread on the subjects of those two players. Things I had to say on Kush had been left unsaid. So you found the two players who have the most votes in the game at the moment unimportant to comment on at all? Are you just intentionally wanting to play oblivious to current events or what? You also mention in your entry post that Slam was "needed to be looked at more" and now you discredit that he could actually be scum too? Why is lynching slam not an attempt to lynch scum?
Maybe because he knows alignments?
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
It was rhetoric, I know what it meant 
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On December 10 2013 16:41 xigxag wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 16:38 Plutarch wrote:On December 10 2013 16:37 xigxag wrote:On December 10 2013 16:34 Plutarch wrote:On December 10 2013 16:25 xigxag wrote:
I think neither Corazon or Xatalos are good lynches. Which is why I mentioned neither of them.
Cor's first post was atrocious, you'll have no arguments from me on that front. His follow up as been too attention grabbing for me to desire to vote him on day one. He is worth pressuring though and I need to understand him more to get a real read on him which I would be willing to commit to.
Xatalos pooped on everyone in a dumb way early in the game. Alienating that many players as scum early on is unwise, he loses too much support for his lynch should he do that. It makes me uncomfortable to lynch him day one. I still need to know more of course but for now I find him non lynchable, Also there is a thing about him which suggests non-scum. I haven't decided if it suggests Sebastian the crab or town but it does suggest non-town.
As of this moment I have not yet found a player I am willing to lynch. You can tell by the way my vote has not yet fallen on anyone. Basically XigXag is saying he doesn't think Xatalos or Cora are good lynches then goes on to agree that cora was scummy and list scummy things about both. But makes sure he doesn't commit to a read. Oh and he doesn't know who he wants to lynch yet. Basically the scummiest most wishy-washy post in existence. In fact the only non wishy-washy thing he has posted is an inexplicable town read on kush that he hard defends based off absolutely nothing. Which in itself is scummy. Xigxag is scum. yes, yes. Very nice. You don't like me. I get it. It's nothing personal. Just my job to find scum. And you happen to be scum. Both my role pm and I disagree with you. Talk to me about Vayne. He is advocating a policy lynch, has attempted to appear active and yet has not done anything with that activity. He is suggesting I read another thread and when I did he says that thread is invalid due to yet another thread.
No. He is not advocating a policy lynch. He is saying if we don't have a good lynch we should lynch alakaslam cause he is posting like shit. And I agree with him.
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On December 10 2013 16:40 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 16:32 xigxag wrote:On December 10 2013 16:29 Holyflare wrote:
So, then what do you think on the points that I/LSB raised on sidesprang's introduction to the thread?
Also, just because they are not good lynches does not mean you can't elaborate on your reads on them, especially as they were both mentioned on your entry and are part of current events. You've given the information now so why was it that it needed to be dug for rather than your free kush town read and your need to look at alak more read? I found them unimportant. Noting I had to say had been unsaid by the thread on the subjects of those two players. Things I had to say on Kush had been left unsaid. So you found the two players who have the most votes in the game at the moment unimportant to comment on at all? Are you just intentionally wanting to play oblivious to current events or what? You also mention in your entry post that Slam was "needed to be looked at more" and now you discredit that he could actually be scum too? Why is lynching slam not an attempt to lynch scum?
I just said. Everything I had to say about X/C had already been said. I had nothing to add to the thread on either one so I refrained from adding nothing to the thread. I won't be voting for either one because I do not find them scummy; even though Plutarch would like to suggest that I do. Both did scummy things. Neither is scummy to me.
Slam could be scum. He needs to be looked at more because I have no idea what his alignment is. Lynching Slam is not an attempt to lynch scum because its a stated policy lynch. Are you reading the game or trying to find ways to attack me? If you want to call me scum do it. If you want to pussy foot around suggesting that I'm scummy just stop. Its embarrassing.
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I will clarify the ## thing, as it's a case of timeline
Noire was played, kush did his thing etc
## was played after it, which is the game that kush decided to stop posting angrily and take it easy
So that is why comparing his playstyle to pre- ## and post ## is not a good idea atm
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I'm not doing any suggesting, I'm questioning your thought process. Nothing that you just stated in regards to Xant and Cora has been said in the thread at all so I don't think you understand my confusion. To downplay something as "embarrassing" when someone is trying to discern information from someone else is funny though.
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On December 10 2013 16:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
I will clarify the ## thing, as it's a case of timeline
Noire was played, kush did his thing etc
## was played after it, which is the game that kush decided to stop posting angrily and take it easy
So that is why comparing his playstyle to pre- ## and post ## is not a good idea atm
So why did you bring it up as a comparison? What is it you were trying to convey with the reference to that game and immediate retraction of the same.
Look Plutarch. I would like to think you are scum for this but I don't. Which means you are trying to incite an angry response from me to see how genuine my emotions feel. Cool. Since you seem town and I am town can I suggest that if you truly think I am scum you don't post useless one liners about it. They damage thread atmosphere and will not help an eventual town victory. If you truly think I am scum make a case and convince others. While you do that I am going to continue to try to figure out if what Vayne is doing is because he is scum or because I have no idea how his brain works.
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Is xigxag new or a smurf?
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On December 10 2013 16:51 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not doing any suggesting, I'm questioning your thought process. Nothing that you just stated in regards to Xant and Cora has been said in the thread at all so I don't think you understand my confusion. To downplay something as "embarrassing" when someone is trying to discern information from someone else is funny though.
LSB already said it: both talky muchy neither swingy soony. Clear? That is all which was useful that I had to say about them.
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On December 10 2013 16:52 Plutarch wrote:
Is xigxag new or a smurf?
for fifty dollars an hour xigxag will be anything you want.
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
On December 10 2013 16:53 xigxag wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 16:51 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not doing any suggesting, I'm questioning your thought process. Nothing that you just stated in regards to Xant and Cora has been said in the thread at all so I don't think you understand my confusion. To downplay something as "embarrassing" when someone is trying to discern information from someone else is funny though. LSB already said it: both talky muchy neither swingy soony. Clear? That is all which was useful that I had to say about them.
So why do you insinuate that you don't talk about anything unless it is vital to the thread that hasn't been said already but then you raise points about slam that he shouldn't be lynched and needs to be looked at. Why Slam over anyone else and how does that fit into this playstyle that you have created for yourself? He has been talked about quite a bit after all.
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On December 10 2013 16:52 xigxag wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 16:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
I will clarify the ## thing, as it's a case of timeline
Noire was played, kush did his thing etc
## was played after it, which is the game that kush decided to stop posting angrily and take it easy
So that is why comparing his playstyle to pre- ## and post ## is not a good idea atm So why did you bring it up as a comparison? What is it you were trying to convey with the reference to that game and immediate retraction of the same. Look Plutarch. I would like to think you are scum for this but I don't. Which means you are trying to incite an angry response from me to see how genuine my emotions feel. Cool. Since you seem town and I am town can I suggest that if you truly think I am scum you don't post useless one liners about it. They damage thread atmosphere and will not help an eventual town victory. If you truly think I am scum make a case and convince others. While you do that I am going to continue to try to figure out if what Vayne is doing is because he is scum or because I have no idea how his brain works.
Because I was showing you why a lurky kush playstyle is not necessarily town. An attitude adjustment and a playstyle are quite different things
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On December 10 2013 15:53 VayneAuthority wrote:
not to mention that in TL Noire before kush got replaced out he was playing this lurky playstyle thing and his slot was scum
On December 10 2013 16:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
I will clarify the ## thing, as it's a case of timeline
Noire was played, kush did his thing etc
## was played after it, which is the game that kush decided to stop posting angrily and take it easy
So that is why comparing his playstyle to pre- ## and post ## is not a good idea atm
I just cannot reconcile these two thoughts with each other. They do not align in any way. One says that because of Noir Kush's play here could be scum, the second says that Noir was before ## and therefore cannot be applied to this game. The timeline thing would be fine if Vayne had not directed me towards Noir himself.
Vayne's suggestion of looking at Kush's meta suggests to me that it is his goal to appear to be an active participant in this game while not in fact working towards a correct scum lynch. His attempt to dissuade my town read on kush suggests that if Vayne is scum kush is not.
I find it impossible for both of the above posts to come from the same townie thinking in the same way.
##Vote: VayneAuthority
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On December 10 2013 16:59 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 16:53 xigxag wrote:On December 10 2013 16:51 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not doing any suggesting, I'm questioning your thought process. Nothing that you just stated in regards to Xant and Cora has been said in the thread at all so I don't think you understand my confusion. To downplay something as "embarrassing" when someone is trying to discern information from someone else is funny though. LSB already said it: both talky muchy neither swingy soony. Clear? That is all which was useful that I had to say about them. So why do you insinuate that you don't talk about anything unless it is vital to the thread that hasn't been said already but then you raise points about slam that he shouldn't be lynched and needs to be looked at. Why Slam over anyone else and how does that fit into this playstyle that you have created for yourself? He has been talked about quite a bit after all.
Alakaslam referenced one of my favorite pieces of writing. I referenced it back to him. There you have it. The whole thing.
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Why do you have a town read on me Xigxag? It is natural as town to feel like the person attacking you is scum. After all, you know you are town and this person is wrong and attacking you. And yet you have given me a town read without justification. What reasoning can you provide for yet another town read?
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On December 10 2013 16:52 Plutarch wrote:
Is xigxag new or a smurf?
Why are you suggesting you are not even reading the guy's posts you are voting for?
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On December 10 2013 17:06 Plutarch wrote:
Why do you have a town read on me Xigxag? It is natural as town to feel like the person attacking you is scum. After all, you know you are town and this person is wrong and attacking you. And yet you have given me a town read without justification. What reasoning can you provide for yet another town read?
Your play, you are niggling over and over on a thing that doesn't feel right to you. You are self confident in a non-scum way "lol look at him squirm" since inciting a big fight with a townie is counter productive to scum agenda and I am a big fan of your answer when I asked you why you didn't build up a case you didn't flounder you simply stated that you didn't know what was right, only what was wrong. It suggested someone who was objectively reading cases and, if they had an issue with that case, making the issue known. All in all it seems likely that you are town. If you are scum you are one of the top scum players I've ever seen. So I'm going to assume that ockham had it right and you are town.
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