EPTOn December 15 2013 06:11 Grackaroni wrote:
Second time he has done this lol.
Second time he has done this lol.
purple lynch was a good option, I just didn't think it was possible until Plutarch went for it.
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purple lynch was a good option, I just didn't think it was possible until Plutarch went for it. | ||
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On December 15 2013 06:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote: If you think it'd be hard to believe for me to redirect a lynch onto a scum purple if I'm scum, and you think I'm scum, why did you vote for Purpletrator? It was between purple and VA though. It was a pretty clear choice. | ||
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On December 15 2013 06:20 Grackaroni wrote: I'm referring to you thinking Artanis is scum all game long. Seeing him vote for purp, and then voting for purple anyway. On December 15 2013 06:16 Xatalos wrote: It was between purple and VA though. It was a pretty clear choice. | ||
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Towniest people from it are definitely rayn, Plutarch and Artanis. It's mind-boggling, but I see no reason for Artanis as scum to force a bus on purple like that. Maybe some really next-level play, but... Even SK is much more likely. And I doubt SK would care about the lynch too much. I guess LSB isn't completely in the clear, although it's weird for purple to attack him in the beginning like that. VA is pretty much town though. It's pretty hard to believe that the 2 top lynches were both scum. | ||
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On December 15 2013 08:04 sidesprang wrote: Only conclusion atm that i feel good about is that IF vayne = town -> artanis = town. Alakaslam deffo seem a bit wierd with how much he changed his vote and that late vote off from purp, but you can also see at one point he gave purple the lead. So it's a bit confusing why he would do that as scum. Oh and BTW, Please feel free to double check it. Tho the count I have in the sheet do seem to make up to the same as the mods counted. That's actually true too. If VA is scum, then Artanis most definitely can be scum. But I thought the chance of VA being scum was rather small, until this.... On December 15 2013 11:58 VayneAuthority wrote: SK we will shoot blazinghand so don't shoot him aight, don't wanna overlap Where he's basically aiding Mafia/SK regardless of his alignment. And there's absolutely no reason to do that as town... I'll seriously facepalm in the postgame if he's town and posted this. It's not impossible, but it makes no sense at all. So maybe he's just scum/SK. | ||
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Obviously without Artanis's vote VA would have been lynched instead of purple, since it was only a matter of one vote in the end... Still, I'd say that A) if VA is scum, Artanis has a very good chance of flipping scum B) if VA is town/SK, Artanis has about an average chance of flipping scum (much less than if VA is scum, but it could still be a clever play by him) | ||
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On December 15 2013 20:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: As i said i think when i was able to convince Plutarch to join the purpletrator lynch i think it's reasonably to assume other people will join asewll so i don't really think the votes after that matter too much alignmentwise. Unless Vayne is town and the wagon is scumfree - which (both of them being true) i can't possibly believe. I'm interested in the events before Plutarch joined the wagon. Would you say that Artanis caused you to start pushing for purple? He took credit for it, but did he actually change your mind? It's a bit weird that scum would bus purple in that situation (him having less votes than VA) unless VA was also scum. If VA was scum, then it'd make a lot of sense, I guess. | ||
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On December 15 2013 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: Btw this is pretty weak considering he put a shitton amount of work in making the vote-switch-tally. Like he does all the work and then says "if vayne is town artanis is most likely too and idk about alakaslam".. Yeah, that's a pretty weak result from the "big vote analysis".... But what do you think of that result? I think it's pretty correct. If VA is scum, then Artanis is pretty likely as well. But it seems significantly less likely if VA is town. I also asked you a question about Artanis's behaviour earlier. | ||
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On December 15 2013 22:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think i answered it. Artanis did not affect me in voting for purple. In fact after i did vote for purple Artanis didn't seem like he wanted to lynch purple at all lol. LOL. Well, maybe he's just scum then and messed that lynch up. Did you see him claiming credit for the lynch right after though? It could be that he accidentally caused it to happen (by being a decisive vote among others) and tried to make the best out of the situation by exaggerating his contribution. | ||
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On December 15 2013 21:49 Plutarch wrote: I just found something interesting. These are the only times Rayn mentioned purple AT ALL until purple became his direct counter wagon. 3 Times in 2 entire cylces. each time dissuading the town from trying to lynch purple. The, and this is important, Vayne votes Purple out of nowhere and only because purp is his direct counter wagon. Since then he mentions purple 15! times. in a pretty obvious bus. He does not give reasoning or provide evidence. He flips a switch and milks town cred. Then comes this post which states there are association tells galore (there really aren't) in an attempt to set up next lynch off the back of purples lynch In summary Vayne mentions purple only 3! times up until the end of day 2, each time dissuading people from lynching purp. He then has to bus when they are direct counter wagons to each other and blatantly does so. Mentioning purp 15! times in minutes. Please lynch Vayne tomorrow. Yeah, I agree on this mostly. It's pretty suspicious that VA is very reluctant to talk about / lynch purple until it's either him or purple, and suddenly purple is 100% scum. I wouldn't be surprised if this was a "not lynchable" -> 100% bus move. | ||
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On December 15 2013 23:03 Plutarch wrote: I would like people to read grack's filter and tell me what they think in light of the flip today. Grackaroni is definitely one of the most suspicious votes (if not the most suspicious). He was very unwilling to lynch purple. Incidentally, his D1 vote was also one of the most scummy: On December 12 2013 03:24 Grackaroni wrote: Geez Vayne actually slipped lol. Un-lynchable scum record goodbye I will take pleasure in this. ##Unvote: Alakaslam ##Vote: VayneAuthority I don't think it prevents Slam from being scum. I don't think VA and Grackaroni are scum together, though. And Grackaroni is very scummy on his own rights. | ||
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On December 15 2013 23:14 Plutarch wrote: Why don't you think they can be scum together? Because he was very eager to jump on the VA bandwagon at the end of D1. Well, they *can*, but it's not very likely that they are IMO. | ||
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On December 10 2013 21:21 Grackaroni wrote: Purple case is weak. You pretty much just made a case to show that he's clueless and all I had to do was look at his original accusation to find that out. This doesn't look very good after purple's flip. | ||
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On December 15 2013 23:38 Plutarch wrote: Basically you have sheeped me a lot. You talk a lot but are more likely to discuss things when lead/promtped. You have basically sheeped the strong townies all game. You have made good points etc. but not really seemed ultra invested in the outcome of lynches hence the sheeping of one or two townies most of the game. You aren't scummy but you are active and not townie. Basically it is really obvious. Well, obviously I disagree... Do you think that my heavy pressure during D1 or individual pushes on several players (Artanis, Corazon...) are indicative of sheeping / not being that invested in who gets lynched? | ||
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On December 15 2013 23:51 Plutarch wrote: Well that is like my whole point. You went through the motions and stuff with pressure and cases but at the end of the day you sheeped like crazy. Like it is so obvious to me that I'm not even calling you mafia. I am calling you SK and I am very very sure. I'm not sure which game you played in with me, but usually I like to lynch together with my strong town reads if that's an option. Like in GoT Mafia, I sheeped Clarity a lot since I was 99% certain he was town. And iamperfection. If you're one of them then (LOL) you should at least know that I'm not the often super confident in my reads and I like to collaborate. | ||
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