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On November 30 2013 02:47 VisceraEyes wrote: /replace so Jay can play Like a baws. Aw thx VE <3 I'll /in shame we can't play together tho its been too long XD | ||
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On November 30 2013 08:29 OdinOfPergo wrote: zz..VE COME PLAYYY I second this. VE COME BACK. | ||
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I want to ban graves he can only cause confusion. ##Ban Graves Also guys do we have any specfic draft plan we wanna set up. I guess we would want the scummiest people to go on the bottom of the draft and have the towniest people go on top so we can make it more likely that town can get the good roles first. Ofc we should all be open about our draft number and write them in the thread so we dont have any mix up. What yall think? :o ILL BE BACH (after sleep) | ||
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On November 30 2013 13:50 geript wrote: Can we lynch Rean already? I like Rean he's trying to roleplay his character (DoubleLift) who would mean hes town cause hes not on SKT I would think. But then there would be more players on SKT then mafia slots. So it is possible he could be mafia as LiftLift and if he was mafia with the balls to say his real role name (DoubleLift was a big SKT fan in the shoutcasting) But given his general game play so far i am gonna go with my gut and say town. | ||
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On November 30 2013 14:00 geript wrote: First off... how do you know that Rean is DoubleLift and two why would not being on SKT mean that he must be town. Scum are always given fake names to use. Why are you so sure on his alignment based on nada? He's Doublelift cause he called everyone trash.... Duh. Also i am learning to use apostrophes. I'm writing a post on it thank you for your help. | ||
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On November 30 2013 13:59 geript wrote: Generic post. Would lynch as well. Also the apostrophe exists for a reason in the English language... use it. Ok so here is the post i was talking about I did my best to use apostrophes well. Also if your wondering cont ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D : ' ) : ' ) : ' ) : ' ) : ' ) : ' ) : ' ) : ' ) : '( : '( : '( : '( : '( : '( : '( : '( : '( : '( : '( 'o' 'o' 'o' 'o' 'o' 'o' 'o' 'o' '_' '_' '_' '_' '_' '_' '_' '_' '_' '_' '_' '_' '_' cont. The winky faces arent actually semicolons they are actually high periods with low apostrophes | ||
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On November 30 2013 14:21 OdinOfPergo wrote: Oh also, Jay I'm not sure what you are trying to say with the pick order statement. I get that town would want townies first scum last... But short of knowing their #'s and picking them placing both of you at the back of the queue... I'm not sure how you'd hope to accomplish this. Maby you can fill me in on your thoughts if I've misread the OP.. Also to note, even if there is a way to accomplish this we probably shouldn't spread numbers around (especially second #'s) until way late in the phase to ensure that the scum don't just sacrifice to place the stronger townies at the back of the Q with themselves. Ok in response to Odin. We should all state our numbers in the thread. if we can get a general town reading on someone then we can say they can go first second third blah blah blah. and if someone is scummy as shit we tell them to get at the back of the que and if they dont listen they look even more scummy and should be lynched. I dont understand the drafting so well but the impression i got from it was that this would be possible. What ya think? On November 30 2013 14:23 geript wrote: That's not the point. The point of the question is WHY does he "know" who they are of. Why should he expect Rean to be town because of the hints (whether taken as Doublelift or LiftLift or whatever the difference is). Why should he read this as a town trait? There's literally zero reason for that. The only reason for why he can assume that Rean is be honest about the name claim is simply because he's scum and Rean is town; he knows Rean's alignment so he can read him as being honest about the summoner/player/whatever the fuck it's called in LoL that Rean got in his pm. First off Doublelift and LiftLift are the same person just different nicknames. I read people having fun and relaxed as a town trait mafia are generally uptight and much more tightlipped. The fact that he claimed doublelift is irrelevant. It could go either way. However the way hes communicating in the thread and acting all carefree and shit makes it more likely for him to be town. Questions :o | ||
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On November 30 2013 14:30 geript wrote: I will assume that you're bad at the game and wait for VE to side with me when he gets back. I like VE dont go tho we just getting started :D | ||
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On November 30 2013 14:37 geript wrote: Why do you think he's starting conversation instead of putting out random +1 blandness? Why can't you see that him giving Rean a town read based on complete bullshit makes him scum? The only reason for Jay to take Rean as being honest about the player/summoner he rolled means that he's reading him as being 100% srs about it. The only reason why Jay could assume he's being 100% srs about it is because Jay rolled scum because there's little reason as town to lie about the player/summoner rolled. Read my response to your earlier statement please. Sank you | ||
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On November 30 2013 14:37 JonnyLaw wrote: All right, so why in the hell would we not ban talon? Saying it's an easy cop out and a bad mafia player will pick it is terrible logic. What you're saying is if someone is suspicious and rolechecked as town then we should lynch them. Why even allow that possibility in the game? Yorick and graves are also solid ban choices. Yorick's is ridiculously strong for scum. Yo, Geript back off of Jay. Do you even LoL? So he's claiming a town spot with the trash posts what does it matter at this point? He's trying to set up a ban priority list. It's just not phrased well. Forgot about Yorick hes also a great ban. And jonny im not worried about this guy at all. I often get called scummy alot cause im terrible at town lol. Good players who know me can usually read me by my meta tho. | ||
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So far I think Rayn is town. I dont like marv. I have been in games with him where he plays an amazing scum. I would be totes fine with lynching him. He doesn't seem to care much and knowing how good a mafia player he is. He wont incriminate him self easily | ||
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On December 01 2013 20:51 supersoft wrote: shhhh we don't accuse scummarv. he will destroy our lovely thread! We better lynch him quick then D: | ||
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On December 01 2013 21:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: jay could you elaborate on this: Is it just me not getting what you are saying or what? To me it seems like you are calling marv scum and then arguing why marv is not scum... No I think Marv is scum. But the point im making is that I know im not going on much to call him out as scum. Marv is hard to put a read on cause he can argue him self out of the noose. I think hes scum but i know he can roll and not appear overly scummy. On December 01 2013 21:08 marvellosity wrote: So jay, if you think I can play/am "amazing scum", how do you think that lines up with my play so far? Does it look like I've been making what would have been a really easy effort to get quite "involved" with bans and reads early? Your regard for my scumplay seems to directly contradict what you're seeing out of my play so far, so I wanna know what you're doing. Seems to me that my play so far has led a number of players of being suspicious of me for doing jack shit/not caring. Is that "amazing" scumplay to you? Thanks in advance for your cooperation xoxoxoxo P.S. 7,2 You said you would play lazy this game pregame. He can be scum and use that excuse to not do much, skating by with out doing much. Im sure if the heat gets turned up on you that you will step it up and use that great scum play i was talking about. A couple players seem to be defending you as well with not much basis other then that your a vet. Marv do you think your a good scum player? You acting like I'm wrong yet we both know you play a damn good scum. | ||
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He can roll scum and not appear overly scummy | ||
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On December 01 2013 22:47 marvellosity wrote: You never answered the actual point jay - if you think I'm amazing scum, do you think I would have played how I have so far? If so, why? Please justify yourself, because your previous post was just nonsense I dont have a great reason that you could be scum. That was my point of my post your a good scum player so its hard to make a case on you. I have thought you were town lots of times and found out later you were scum. Your difficult to read but my gut says scum. | ||
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On December 02 2013 00:50 marvellosity wrote: Have you even been in a game I've been mafia in? Yes | ||
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On December 02 2013 01:27 marvellosity wrote: Which? Your claim is that you have thought I was town "lots of times" and found out later I was mafia, but I can't remember playing with you. In short, I think you're bullshitting muchly. Using the mafia data base it was Hero Mini Mafia. I thought you were town the whole game and you turned out to be mafia. You played a very strong mafia you lead the town and misguided them very well. Kudos | ||
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On December 02 2013 19:38 marvellosity wrote: So "once" then, not "lots of times" That was a gross exaggeration, wasn't it, jay? Why did you grossly exaggerate? During the game I played with you I thought you were towns tons of times. Reads can change thru out the game. But you played scum very well and proceeded to trick everyone and win the game as scum. I thought i had played another game with you but i was wrong. Regardless my whole post was to say you play a very good scum and I if you play townie-like there is a still a very strong chance you can be scum. So im gonna FOS you like a sonovabitch. Also you have me a scum read I read later on. Please Marv tell me why I would create a terrible case on you a townie vet. As mafia and draw my self into the spotlight. It wasn't even a case ffs. It was a gut read. You say Im bullshitting. But how is a gut read bullshitting it just is a feeling. If your not dead in a day or 2 your prolly mafia regardless of how your playing. On December 02 2013 16:46 Roffles wrote: As I've said before with Jay, I just find his overall posting mannerisms not fitting to that of a townie. Everything is "What do you think" instead of stating as a matter of fact. Yes, you can probably chalk it up to poor play, but it's also what scum does (they like to stir shit up). Throw in the fact that in the middle of being accused, he attempts to throw in random tangent posts to potentially deflect stuff off him. He then goes on and accuses marv for probably the most ridiculous reason of all (I've seen him play a good mafia, so we should kill him). Can you chalk that up to being bad? Because he does have games played before. Add on top of that some timely no posting (He's been pretty active last couple of days) that coincides with the release of roles, and to me you have someone that has a good chance of either being bad town or red. As for MZ, I just think he's red cause of how he was super aggressive/borderline hostile when his initial propositions against gtrsrs and geript turned back onto him. I just think he's trying to get gtrsrs lynched for being a bad townie player, buying scum an extra day. Fairly simple, I think gtrsrs is green and MZ's just trying to use him as lynch bait because gtrsrs's play has legit been pretty awful and borderline scummy, which is perfect for him to hide behind if he gets the traction and support of many. Roffles I have never played with you. Your reasoning is shit because I don't play town how others would or optimally. I am unique or as some would say lynchbait. Oh no you say you shouldn't call your self lynchbait thats anti town. Well actually referring to my self as lynch bait is a null tell. I do it as scum or town. If you wanna make a case on me go read some of my games and understand my meta. Cause if you use simple basic guidelines for town, your gonna mislynch a townie. My reasoning for going after Marv is because I played a good scum game and I'm very wary of him cause he won the game for his team. Would scum go after a Vet like Marv let alone my scum play. I basically lurk super hard as scum I wouldn't go after someone like Marv because that would draw unwanted attention. Regardless read my meta or drop the case, cause its shit. | ||
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Also sandro's had some good points too. ##Vote Bumatlarge Also i have been seeing this crop up. I'm a VT I tried to take lux. | ||
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On December 04 2013 08:00 Mig wrote: Jay can you explain why you tried to take lux with the 2nd to last pick. You thought nobody would try to take pretty much the only cop role not banned out? Cause I liked her power seemed very useful for town. I never saw her mentioned before so i thought i would give it a shot. On December 04 2013 09:26 geript wrote: I don't see why he wouldn't. If he's that concerned about Marv being scum (that's practically his only discussion) then I don't see why he wouldn't concern himself with trying to get that role. Yes, it's seems ridiculous to normal rational thinking, but you also have to remember that paranoia is by definition irrational. The fact that he isn't being irrational really bugs me. As far as thinking rayn is or might be scum, honestly I have not clue. There's no way he gets lynched today so there's a real point in me trying to get an assessment on him in any regard right now. I have tunneled reallllllllllllllllllllllllllllly hard before, If i thought someone was scum I would witch hunt them all game until I got there blood. One game I did this to a player I had played with together as scum buddies. I was town and thougth they were displaying scum traits. And i tunnelled the whole game. Until finally they died and they were green. At that point the game was over for us. A scum had gotten a hold on town and my tunneling helped us lose that game. I have tried to improve my self by not being irrational when playing mafia. Tunneling Marv and shitting up the thread would help no one. As well i know my case was weak. The biggest reason I wanted to get it out there is because even if Marv is playing great and looks like a townie. He still has a good chance of being scum. I don't have alot of influence and I'm not the best scum hunter. I know this I don't typically play in big games and I like to stick to minis and even then, I'm pretty useless day 1. I find going on no concrete information difficult. (Oh no your playing your self down as a townie and trying to make your own opinion useless that's scum play. I don't give a fuck I know my limits. I am not the best player and I know I have big weaknesses.) I would prefer to state my weaknesses then talk my self up and make up shit. On December 04 2013 09:32 marvellosity wrote: It's a "I just got to his post in the thread and it's fucking terrible thing". His last 3 posts Last post is almost directly a scumclaim it feels like. I don't know if I'm overreacting. I'm sheeping a read I liked. The main candidates are LSB and Bum. I liked LSB's theory about picking Tryndamere. Also between the two candidates Sandro stated that Bum is the more likely. I have a towniesh read on Sandro. I'm not much of a scum hunter day 1. I accept this. Is a townie sheeping people he things town scummy. Cause that just seems dumb. On December 04 2013 09:33 marvellosity wrote: "I lurk superhard as scum" ------> goes missing for 24h and comes in with a terrible, generic +1 vote with no thought behind it. I find this line of thinking dumb. As if everyone that has a vote is gonna add a completely profound line of thought that is unique of everyone else's. I'm fucking sheeping. I'm not gonna make up a bullshit reason why I'm voting for Bum. I could quote the post's I liked. But wouldnt make a difference my action is the same. On December 04 2013 09:38 Mocsta wrote: The more I think about it, the more I realise that a paranoid town Jay would be more pessimistic of people in general. The focus on Marv seems doesn't make sense with the jump to Bum. When I played with jay in nomination; he was unpredictable and confused as town (i.e. would flip reads instantly on new information). He's not showing any signs of this paranoia; its all suspicion that could have been said pre-game... as his reasoning for marv being scum weren't in-game related. That's why I'm Numba 1 LYNCH BAIT NA I haven't been able to get involved in this game as i like. (I know saying shit like this is discouraged but its the truth) I avoid big games like this, but it was lol themed  I had to join. On December 04 2013 09:45 Mig wrote: Does anyone have experience with jay's town game and how much effort he generally puts in? I think I may know this jay your talking about. He's a crazy mutha fucka who likes to have fun. Really shitty day 1. People that dont play with him always want to lynch him. Hes rather easy to read later on cause he lurks hardcore as mafia. If the game goes on hes easier to find out. The main difference between this game and his normal games. Is this is a Normal Size (Big) mafia game and his forte is minis so he may not be able to be a real threat presence till later on. | ||
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On December 04 2013 09:54 marvellosity wrote: Basically last time he posted he was promising to read filters and contribute to the game. He comes back to the thread with some indication that he has in fact read the thread (enough to mention LSB and sandro and what they said about bum) but literally has no other contribution of note. He's totally opted out of doing anything today, which fits in much more with how he plays mafia than how he plays town. He seems to have zero interest in thinking critically about the game or doing anything. It reads like he made that post because he HAD to, not because he wanted to. Yea this would bug me too. I never got around to reading filters. At that point There were already two main candidates and out of the two I liked the Bum wagon better. Can't recall the people VE mentioned but i think Jcarl was mentioned and maybe? LSB. Sandro made the post saying how Bum would be mafia for LSB to be mafia and Jcarl wasn't a viable lynch option. This late in the day we needed to consolidate. | ||
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On December 04 2013 10:17 Oatsmaster wrote: Jay, did you start pregame thinking 'pressure marv cause he doesnt look like scum as scum'? Not pregame so much. I got in on this game at the last second cause of people giving up a spot a few hours before the game started. When I noticed Marv however I remembered how well he played. My going after him wasn't really relevant to his posting that's whats scary about Marv He can be posting as a townie and be SCUMMMM. | ||
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On December 04 2013 10:22 justanothertownie wrote: "I am the worst player there is so please don't lynch me" - jay BEST MISLYNCH NA :D | ||
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On December 04 2013 10:23 marvellosity wrote: It's not sheeping as a standalone thing that's the problem, jay. It's sheeping while providing literally nothing of any value to the town at any other point, nothing that suggests you've bothered to think about the game. Not true I added that Marv is a slipper mutha fucka and to keep an eye on that scummy bastard. In all seriousness I haven't much. I haven't added my own thinking much either. But regardless it doesn't make me scum. What I tried to do early game when I had time and wasn't playing catch up always. Was play to my town game and make people recognize me for what I am a townie. VE saw it although I had trouble staying as active as i like to be as town. The apostrophes for instance is something town jay would do. Its completely spur of the moment and shit I can't think of the word I want i sometimes have trouble finding the mot juste. Its kinda like seat of the pants or doing things as they pop into your head someone help me. This is gonna bug me. Anyway my plan early game was to establish my townieness. Which I kinda slacked off on doing later into the day. | ||
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On December 04 2013 10:37 VisceraEyes wrote: spontaneous THANK YOU | ||
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On December 04 2013 10:37 marvellosity wrote: "I wanted to make people think I was town" ---> "the apostrophe thing was totally spur of the moment" yeah ok He was totes asking for it. I tried hard as hell on that shit. Speaking of the apostrophe thing..... | ||
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BREAD CRUMBS MUTHA FUCKAS On November 30 2013 14:29 jaybrundage wrote: Apparently TL formating hates me so there she is in all her glory | ||
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Hey VE I should get a Lol Smurf with BEST MISLYNCH NA | ||
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On December 04 2013 10:39 VisceraEyes wrote: Tell me who you think is scum Jay. Tell me who is suspicious and why. I don't care what you've already said, that was then. This is now. You won't like this. I don't know. Bum I guess. I know im repeating my self but i liked the LSB case on him. I haven't been able to analyze the thread much. I suck at day 1. Your gonna be mad lol | ||
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On December 04 2013 10:45 Mocsta wrote: hmm I thought i voted bum last night. WIFOM defense after WIFOM denfese ##Unvote ##Vote: Jay Don't do that T_T | ||
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On December 04 2013 10:47 VisceraEyes wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Jay Not mad friend, just disappointed. VE you legit think I would have not a single person to post if I was on the scum team. Wouldn't I ask my scum buddies for help with someone i could stick a shitty FOS on. I'll try to look thru the player's names and see if anything i can remember that stuck up to me. With big games like this its more difficult tho : / | ||
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On December 04 2013 10:51 VisceraEyes wrote: With a 15 vote bandwagon an hour from deadline, I'm guessing your scumteam is just like "Say whatever, you're fine. Just so long as you're not modkilled." Im sad you can't read my VE. Looking at my early game you had me dead on. Well looking thru the names. gtrsrs really bothered me with his constantly posting lol related things. That were completely irrelevant for the most part. He just posted lol champs and abilities and speculation with out any real content Will keep looking. | ||
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On December 04 2013 10:54 VisceraEyes wrote: He's also completely absent and a coinflip. Try harder. What do you think of Mocsta and MZ? Lemme look thru them quick | ||
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I find his push on MZ and then the frustrate vote on him cause he feels ignored a bit odd. Over all he makes sense and is being out spoken I would say town for Mocsta Now for MZ I find him liking you kind of odd. Well I do have a town read on you VE. I'm not sure if his defending of you is townish or not. Hmm Thinking town actually Yea his way of defending you and seeing that rayn is prolly town as well with a wrong read on you ve, makes me give him a town read. | ||
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On December 04 2013 12:15 Mocsta wrote: sigh... Geript... This is why we need accountability. Theres not really much I can say about Roffles good or bad because its in that stupid fucking in between. Whered Jay go? WTF mocsta his poem was epic as shit. I stopped posting after no more pressure cause if i kept posting i would prolly of got lynched lol. And sorry batman we lynched you. | ||
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On December 04 2013 12:17 Mocsta wrote: Can someone pls shoot Jay this cycle. Gives me a convenient town read when my vote is on him. The guy conveniently disappears once he notices he not under any pressure. Actually liked Bums poem. ..... No I dont wanna die. I gave you a town read cause VE suggested i read you and you seemed town. If people waste there KP one me. It would just validate my best lynch na claim. However I do wanna play this game for a bit and not die super early ffs. | ||
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On December 04 2013 12:29 Oatsmaster wrote: So what? Jay is super concerned about his appearence. CAUSE I DON'T WANNA DIAA | ||
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On December 04 2013 12:39 Oatsmaster wrote: I literally do not remember. But, jay knows that he is "best mislynch NA". It's a null tell. | ||
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Not sure what you mean. I started doing it as town. Cause I was really bad at the game and kept getting mislynched. Then I did it as scum sometimes. So i could be consistent. I quit doing it for a while when I had a really good game in british mafia where i lived a whole game and didn't get mislynched and town won. But it's a game claiming a title is fun :D Its either make light of my badness or be frustrated about me doing badly. Its also a way to educate new players that I can be lynchbait early on. If not for alot of the game. It's part of the reason I love playing with experienced players like Happa who can read me really well. So if im town i can expect to be read well and not worry about my shitty day 1. | ||
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I think VE is scum. I thought I had made it clear with my early play that i was town. Thats why im confused as to why VE couldn't read me well. He was pretty sure i was town early on. But recently changed my mind. I thought it might have been my fault for not playing town well enough. But then Prom (Isn't Doofus a bit harsh T_T) came and read me easily so my town play was self evident to an extent. But then I remembered that this switch from VE felt familiar. Going back thru his games and in two games he played as scum. He defends me day 1 and saves me to use as a mislynch later on in the game. 2 Times he does this (Note this is a meta based case) The first was Nomination + Show Spoiler + On February 11 2013 08:13 VisceraEyes wrote: This is prplhz' first post with content. I think this post clearly illustrates his scum mindset. My biggest problem with the post is the bolded statement. He already knows Djodref's alignment! Why can't Djodref be scum just putting junk in the thread? He calls it ridiculous himself, it's not going to help anyone find scum...he didn't even put himself in the damn lynch pool when determining the target! So why is it so clear to prplhz that Djodref's nonsense is "some sort of scheme to draw out scum"? This post is regarding JX on D1...the timeline should be clear by the content. The thing I don't like about this post is that in spite of it going to lengths to explain how he was trying to divine JX' alignment, it's clear to me from this post that he already did. Look at the last line (particularly the italicized bit). It's like he was trying to show disinterest in the lynch while keeping a door open to vote for him if he needed to. The lynch went the way scum wanted apparently because he can be found hard defending JX in the form of his laughable sheep onto Snarfs' "case" on me. It's important to note here that prplhz has, up to this point, had ZERO strong scum reads. Even his jaybrundage read is ambiguous and unclear. This is all I can manage today. I had started describing my adventures through filterland after this, but I'm super pressed for time today and won't be back until after lynch. For todays lynch, it's clear (at least to me) that slOosh is trying to illustrate that he'll be here and active tomorrow. I'm not getting that feeling from Palmar at all - he still feels as distant from the game as he did at this point D1. However. Palmar is apparently reading prplhz the same way I am and slOosh wants me dead. Frankly I don't even get why, but the fact is that I think I'll have a shot at getting prplhz lynched tomorrow with Palmar around. Therefor I'm voting for slOosh. Sorry slOosh, stop reading me as scum when I'm town. Also your phagga read is bad because the main thrust of it is a meta analysis between a post from a different game mostly through D1 and a post in this game from the very beginning of D1. If you'd pull your head out of your ##Vote: slOosh On February 21 2013 02:41 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay, I'm starting to understand what's happening here. Oatsmaster, Jaybrundage, phagga Here's my theory. Check out jay's post regarding me. Notice how he's pushing this idea that I wasn't Nominated because I'm scum. It seems sound in theory, except that I haven't been at the pinnacle of my game this game - I defended phagga against slOosh, I defended Oatsmaster against Mocsta - I've been inadvertently playing for the scumteam all game. Why would they want to get rid of me? jaybrundage has been crying "best mislynch NA" all game, like he does every game these days...except, if that's the case, then why hasn't scum tried to mislynch him yet? Something to consider. He wanted me gone bad on D3, and like everyone, is (somehow) convinced that the D3 lynch was between 2 scum. You need only look around today at the state of town, two mislynches away from losing the game, to see that this CAN NOT have been the case. I think debears is onto something with his case on jaybrundage. I think jay is scum. Oatsmaster has been a little harder to read, mainly because I'm not familiar with his play. He's taking sheeping to a whole different level this game. Go read his filter - he has asked who he should lynch every cycle. I wrote him off as town early in the game based on his interactions with Mocsta, but if you look through his filter it's apparent that he hasn't done shit this game. And then out of nowhere today, I'm a scumread for him. I'm not buying it. This cycle was planned, and the plan was "discredit/setup VE for mislynch". phagga is the weakest of my reads after rereading - but after rereading I'm also of the opinion that the three Nominees are all town, leaving phagga in the "could be scum" demographic for me. I didn't like slOosh' case on him (for reasons I stated) but he's right in that phagga keeps backing down from his scumreads (though somehow I bet he's just fine with his read on me) and isn't doing any scumhunting. To me, tomorrow's lynch should be jaybrundage>Oatsmaster>phagga VE should not be lynched because VE is town. This isnt even the only time it happens the second game this happened was in Hero Mini Mafia. VE starts off as defending me as I can be easy lynchbait day 1. + Show Spoiler + On December 11 2012 03:18 VisceraEyes wrote: Morning all. I read through the thread...I'm underwhelmed with Palmar's entrance, and my vote on marv served its purpose (getting him to play like he cares about the game). ##Unvote The case on jay seems to revolve around his lack of commitment to his "scumread" on thrawn based on the miller claim. First of all, I have to say - I don't find that to be particularly damning. First of all, the posts in question were from the first six hours of D1. Secondly, it occurs to me that "I don't really like early bandwagons" is more likely to come from a town player than a scum player. Think about it - while Clarity claims that's "classic scum mindset", is that classic scum play? I agree that scum players tend to not like early bandwagons, but do they come into the thread citing that as their reasoning for avoiding voting for one of their "scumreads"? I think not, considering how it's "classic scum mindset" ya know? To be honest, I can see town jay acting the way he's acting regarding thrawn. Not interested in lynching jay today. "But VE, who would you like to lynch today?" Calm down bish I'm getting there. Based on what I'm seeing, I think Vivax and Palmar could be scum together. First of all, Vivax has this problem with my interest level? Goes so far as to throw times of posts into the mix to appear that he's carefully watching the thread...except, Palmar has shown that he not only doesn't care about the game, he doesn't care about his own alignment in the game. Unfortunately, I've seen Palmar do this as town, so I'm not putting much stock into Palmar's end of it. But Vivax....Vivax is in here actively trying to put suspicion on me for having a townread on thrawn. Literally. I even explained in detail why I thought thrawn was joking, which by the way, he was by his own tongue. I think Vivax is trying to fake contribution. I think he's trying to appear active while doing nothing of value. He claims that in spite of his "analysis" of my actions, he'd STILL vote for thrawn, based on the stale-ass fake-claim. I'm calling bullshit. ##Vote: Vivax On December 11 2012 16:00 VisceraEyes wrote: I changed my mind. I think jaybrundage is scum. After his first post on thrawn in which he says he’s suspicious, he asks my opinion of the matter. I gave it, and that’s the last that was heard about it. Why did he want my input? He never referenced anything I said, or even acknowledged that I said it. I believe that he was just trying to get someone to agree with him regarding thrawn. On December 10 2012 10:37 jaybrundage wrote: Dude... Its not whether we believe you. Your lying simple. Not a single persons believes your claim its about why are you lying. For no damn reason. And what purpose would town have to do that. It only makes sense from a mafia perspective It really makes me uncomfortable when someone else speaks for me, and in this post jaybrundage is telling thrawn that I don’t believe his claim. I didn’t believe his claim, but because I thought his claim was a joke considering that the OP is explicit in the fact that millers are not self-aware. Therefor, I thought his claim was funny. But I certainly didn’t think he was LYING about his claim with any malicious intent. It doesn’t make sense for me to think that he thought that I would believe that claim based on what the OP says. But jaybrundage is telling thrawn in no uncertain terms that I, VisceraEyes, think that he’s lying about his claim for no reason. And that’s not the case. He then goes on to say that “...It only makes sense from a mafia perspective.” But that’s not true either is it? If thrawn is to be believed, he did it as a joke and to “spark discussion” and “ignite conversation” and such. Which, if he’s town, is a reasonable (if misguided) motivation. On December 10 2012 11:03 jaybrundage wrote: Hey Djo can you do us all a favor and type in your vote here when you decide to vote for someone one in the voting thread. It would help out alot and i rather not have to check it till the end of the day. The thing that I don’t like about this post isn’t even that it’s self defeating in the fact that Djo had, in fact, voted in the game thread...which shows that he’s not only not reading the thread, but is closely watching the voting thread...the opposite of what he’d have you believe in the post quoted above. It’s not that. Look at what Djo is saying. He’s saying he believes thrawn was joking too, and is asking someone about their thoughts on anyone else. So he’s ignored my response regarding thrawn. Now he’s insidiously trying to discredit Djo (calling out his not-really-ninja vote in the voting thread) rather than respond to his post requesting discussion outside of thrawn. It all starts to stink like scum pushing an agenda to me. Especially considering, in spite of all of this... On December 11 2012 04:43 jaybrundage wrote: I didnt mean you specifically but some people in TL mafia do. I actually am starting to lean more neutral on Thrawn. In my early mind set I just couldnt see someone misclaiming as a joke, or risk getting them selves lynched. Im a little worried about our lurkers. And i would prefer to see more posts out of ZBoston. Specifically ZBoston what do you think about Claritys case on me and some people soft defending me. Also MunkE has had like 3 posts since his /in and every single one of them is mostly about WBG statistic. Do we really have to nitpick over something like that. WBG was mostly trying to bait Palmar out. Lets hear your thoughts on some cases On Vivax its odd. He seems really interested in going after Thrawns claim and saying that Ve defended it as a joke. When its not a joke. Even when thrawn said his self it was just a joke. That he stubbornly. Refused to explain to generate discussion. I think he is concentrating on thrawns little joke to much to the exclusion of everything else. I can see him being scum. ##Vote Vivax (Because some people get SOOOOO antsy if you dont follow your argument with your vote.) ....HE TAKES IT ALL BACK ANYWAY! That's right, after the whole song and dance about being SOO FRUSTRATED with how he wasn't being paid attention to, and how his motivations only make sense from scum perspective, and in the face of people he has SPECIFICALLY asked their opinion of disagreeing with him, and EVERYTHING....he takes it all back anyway. Because thrawn said it was a joke and it was to generate discussion. Cool. Die. ##Unvote: Vivax ##Vote: jaybrundage I'm going to go reread Vivax now and see if I still think he's scum. This changes things, because I had intended to spend this time writing a case on Vivax...but after reading the votecount and realizing that this jayb wagon was for real, I thought I'd check into him first. I'm glad I did, but now jaybrundage is voting for Vivax as well. We'll see what a reread brings. VE knows how I play he can read me. However he called me town early on and he was right. He didn't want me to get lynched day one and he put an early halt on greptit's push on me. This is beginning to get common place VE don't let people lynch me day 1 and then use me as a mislynch later on. Here was it this game. Soft Defending me. On November 30 2013 16:26 VisceraEyes wrote: Not much I'm similarly not worried about Jay or Johnny. Calling me town cause I demonstrating my town like play and he knows whos town. He always defends me day 1 so no lynch gets pushed on me. On December 01 2013 03:38 VisceraEyes wrote: Yes. Yes. Good. Good. Geript I refuse to try and read you right now. Jay prolly town. More Defending. He slowly changes his opinion so that it be suspicious. On December 02 2013 14:58 VisceraEyes wrote: I picked Lux. My other ability is her ult - use your imagination. So how do you say we go about doing this? In a normal game KP can be used to clear out lurkers, but with the HP mechanic that makes it less attractive for that application. I'm probably going to favor lynching scummy lurkers even more so in this game than others simply for that reason - in this way we force scum to post if they want to live, so that when they die there's more linkages. Right now I'm most suspicious of gtsrs. Oats pointed this out (++) but this post is extremely bad from gtsrs. Like, yes there were a couple of one-liner posts in the thread...but for the most part the thread was devoid of anyone doing anything due to the holiday and it just seemed really disingenuous to call out trash posting WITH a contentless trash post that says literally nothing about the game. ##Vote: gtsrs @Moc I explained to geript why I think Jay is likely town - it's a meta read having played scum with him in the past based on his activity in this game. It's not a super strong one...like, I'll actually read a case on him or whatever, but it's enough to make me look elsewhere for myself. He changes it up. From an easy read of town early game. He starts to change it up and wants to not make it suspicious when he wants to swing a mislynch on me. On December 04 2013 10:43 VisceraEyes wrote: If you keep saying it I'll stop believing it. Just saying. Tell me who is scum and why. Or die. I'm not even joking, I could swing it. Till He turns it around and wants to lynch me. I wouldnt be suprised if he was planning to right up a case on me tommorow or just go with thread sentiment as I'm an easy mislynch and let me be lynched. /meta Also the "reluctant" vote knowing that Bum is town. On December 04 2013 07:08 VisceraEyes wrote: Yeah.....yeah. ##Unvote ##Vote: Bumatlarge I don't have the strength or will. I think LSB scum but I can't keep saying the same things over and over again and hoping for different results. 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Also Sandro's pick on SuperSoft could be legit. I haven't taken a good look at him yet. But hes usually vey load and has a big thread presence. This whole quiet Supersoft thing is very different from what I'm used too and could very well be a indicator that hes scum. VE I gave you content and while you made note of me. You never responded to my allegations SADDENED YOU CANT FIRE UP THE BARBIE TO COOK MISLYNCHED JAY HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.. Sidenote: VE you at least could of responded to my lol invite and told me you at work. Cause you were posting when you working zzz jerk Marv here is hoping you die this night or the next  You either die a hero or live long enough to see your self become the villain. | ||
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On December 05 2013 10:44 supersoft wrote: what pick? i just wasn't at a computer you noob. How am I supposed to be in the thread, you can see my online times. I am basically playing this game when i get home between 2 and 3 am for three days now and I still have better reads than 90% of you. Well give us some credit we aren't all mafia like you are. | ||
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On December 05 2013 10:48 supersoft wrote: do you think you are funny? Oh I know im funny. The real question is whether you're town. | ||
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On December 05 2013 10:51 supersoft wrote: So what do you think? Hmm I tried to find the game we played together. I swear we played 2 games together one with you and WBG in it and another with you guys being a hydra but i cant find them. I don't remember what name you guys were under. Can you help me find it? In regards to you being scum I think you are. You were extremely loud in the other game(s) I remember you tried to establish your towniness and tried to go gung-ho from day 1 making reads and following up and being a force in the thread I think it was you who observed me using smilies and tried to deduce whether it was scummy or not (lol) But you left an impression. This game however I barely remembered that you existed. If not for Sandro mentioning you I probably would of skated right by you. So Supes tell me are you scum and who are your scum buddies. | ||
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On December 05 2013 11:10 kushm4sta wrote: jay how can you say that ss is probably mafia? this isn't his mafia meta. he is clearly busy / not reading / not involved. seems like 50/50 to me. He said himself he doesn't have a mafia meta. It isn't his town meta either. Soooooooooooo..... Do you see where im going with this. | ||
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Sandro needs to step it up cause we lost the biggest town influence and we only had one night to use him. I still like killing VE, SS would also work. Oh and please dont kill rean hes town far as i can tell. Bad rayn, bad | ||
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On December 05 2013 12:37 jcarlsoniv wrote: Hey Koshi, didja make somethin? Dat reading comprhension. | ||
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On December 05 2013 14:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes and your filter lacks even that. Why didn't you shoot yourself? By your definition you are 1000x scummier than austin. Why didn't you shoot Coag? Also you have yet to give the scumreads. You have been here. You have been reading. I am expecting at least 3 scumreads with reasoning. Other people than lurkers. Hmm I was gonna defend Rean. But I took a quick gander at his filter and I understand why your going after him. While I liked his early posts his posts have continued to stay contentless. Rean DO SOMETHING. Look thru some filters make a case. Your dead weight for town atm. | ||
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On December 05 2013 14:11 Oatsmaster wrote: are you jay? Cause thats what Jay does. I do that alot lol. Check my old games. Confirmed greens have honest opinions you can rely on. However Oats Bum wasn't the only one to call VE scummy. I think I did a big addition to that case on my own. Infact I would even venture that the first real case on VE is mine. Also Bum didn't mention SS in his post. Sandro is the one that gave SS as a scum read. And then I expanded on it a bit not much but gave my own thoughts. You can throw cheap shots all day. Or you can, you know, just play the game. | ||
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Are you kidding? Your not even going to try to play this game to the best of your ability. You gonna make a dumb sheep joke that's not even relevant. I was planning to defend you because I thought your Doublelift impersonations were genuine. In a post an hour ago or so I told Rayn that you were town and to lay off you. But you obvious need the pressure. While you may be town. You have contributed close to nothing. Rayn has everyone right to be pressuring you. Hows this for sheep ##Vote Rean Oh and by the way the grass tastes like shit or maybe that's just your posting. | ||
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On December 05 2013 14:23 Oatsmaster wrote: ??? I was going from Nomination. Not talking about you in this game. Talking about Mocsta. Seriously, why this reaction? I think SS is scummy, I think you are scummy, but meh. We are in this game Mafia League of Legends. If you don't give context I'm going to assume your talking about this game, I don't think that's much of a stretch. I have been on a roll I think and I thought you were trying to discredit it with cheap shots. Wouldn't your reaction be the same if you perceived someone doing that to you? | ||
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On December 05 2013 14:32 Chezinu wrote: Hey guys, I'm kind of new to this game and am a total noob. Is Cho'Gath an easy character to go up against and kill? Does a noob like me have a chance? ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xUoB9B3.jpg) Yea your pretty much screwed. | ||
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On December 05 2013 14:35 Oatsmaster wrote: I said 'does', not 'did'. Does implies you do it a lot, did implied you did it this game. My reaction would be, lol yeah accurate haha. And not angry as fuck. Severe overreaction. did implies I have done it one time in the past. does implies im doing it in the present. Semantics aside I'm not angry I find it silly to get angry in a mafia game when we are all here to have a good time. | ||
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On December 05 2013 14:33 Rean wrote: Why so tense? It's just a joke, no need to flip your shit I already told you who I think is mafia. But if you'd like a reminder: ##Vote: Austinmcc Im a bit annoyed because you don't seem to be trying. Your case on austin seems nonexistent. Hes a lurker you asked him a question and you called him scum. My only thinking that you could have any validity to your case on austin is if you have a blue roll that gives you a check. But even then it would have been in the day time and that seems unlikely. Please try..... Plz? | ||
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On December 05 2013 11:41 supersoft wrote: not sure, if you have a reading problem. I said i had no time to play the last 3 day. that has nothing to do with boredom or scummieness. But nvm you're scum, so it's perfectly fine for you to twist the facts. wp SS this is disappointing. If you truly have had no time to play these last three days. Then it would effect your alignment whether you were town or scum. Your posting would go down dramatically. However that's not the only reason I think your scum. Your posts as town are usually very attention grabbing and you could of still been a thread presence with few posts but in general your seem to be avoiding the spotlight as a whole. If you were town I believe the few posts you have had would be big and rallying townies around your lynches. I mean you haven't even called the town bad yet. Your scum man. It's okay tho, you don't play scum often practice makes perfect. ##UnVote Rean ##Vote Supersoft Note: I don't think Rean is scum still. Yes he has been playing like crap. I was trying to pressure him but to no avail. Even if hes playing bad town. He's still probably not scum. | ||
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On December 06 2013 03:24 sandroba wrote: @rean I agree with that little line you commented about austin, but do you think that comment is enough to mobilise the whole town into lynching austin? Have you filtered yourself? Do you think you are trying to get people lynched? Do you think people can see that by looking at your filter? I just don't understand your frustration when people are finding you suspicious for the same reason you outlined as scummy behavior? +1 | ||
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On December 06 2013 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote: At least Jay is holding hands with me to lynch someone I don't even really wanna lynch anymore. O.O VE get off my wagon you're making it look bad. | ||
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On December 06 2013 06:51 Chezinu wrote: Chezinu is not your typically player. He loves to trolls. If he is town, he will So Chezinu gimme who you think the scum team is. Also what is the Chezinu rule? | ||
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He pokes at MZ the whole game for poking at koshi the whole game. MZ keeps bothering Koshi who shouldn't be on our lynching plan atm cause hes an inventor. MZ knows this and yet keeps poking I however think this more likely to be a paranoid townie that's tunneling a bit hard. As opposed to scum that's beating a dead horse. Kush you said you don't want to lynch austin why is this. | ||
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We should just take care of Roffles via KP. He is lurking hardcore and he is playing anti town as shit. His death gives us nothing to go off of. I wouldn't be surprised if austin and Roffles are both on scum team. And they send roffles out to be a distraction to both get heat off austin and if we lynch austin its unlikely we will lynch roffles because the stereotype is that hes just a anti town trolling townie instead of a scum making plays. ##Unvote ##VOTE AUSTINMCC | ||
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On December 07 2013 10:15 geript wrote: Saying it does not make it so. Make a point that we can read/discuss. Otherwise I'm going with the reasons I've posted. As a matter of fact, the fact that MZ didn't know why I was voting him shows me he isn't/hasn't read the thread. Geript do you have anything to add to the case supersoft posted on MZ. Before you say I haven't been reading the thread I stated that I was 20 pages behind. Do you agree with the SS summary or do you have a post or something you would like me to read. | ||
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Part of the reason why I think austin is scum is the first part of the game He SOLELY (hyberbole) gives town reads. He gives town read after town read after town read. This is very easy for scum to do. They know who's town so they can go off little things in posts to try to establish rap with other townies. (if he thinks im town he must be town reading me line of thinking) He then harps on MZ for bothering Koshi. Yes MZ is constantly bugging Koshi. I think the reason for MZ's tunneling Koshi is a couple reasons. A. MZ thinks Koshi might be scum. B. Koshi is inventor so he can make sweet stuff that ideally would be given to townies. C. Koshi being inventor IS NOT ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE D. Koshi is not contributing much to scum hunting E Koshi being scum in MZ's eyes and is being ignored as a lynch candidate because of his Power Is driving MZcrazy and makes it keep coming back to Koshi to put pressure on him. That is my idea why MZ kept bothering Koshi even tho hes not a lynch candidate atm. | ||
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On December 07 2013 10:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yah and asking for reasoning makes me think you don't even read the thread because i have given my reasoning before you asked. Stop fucking bickering we want to get to the same goal of lynching scum. | ||
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On December 07 2013 10:58 justanothertownie wrote: You said his reads aren't read without providing even a single piece of evidence. Wow, impressing rayn, impressing. I don't get how you can be so fucking sure about both of their alignments. Read what I said and again Stop fucking bickering plz | ||
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On December 07 2013 11:00 Koshi wrote: rayn want me to sheep you? My own mind says MZ, but I can sheep if you really know mz is town and austin scum. Koshi I would encourage you to switch to austin. | ||
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On December 07 2013 11:26 supersoft wrote: FUCK this people who voted MZ for no reason and went afk. This gives me a TERRIBLE feeling. Even though I think scumMig was like: "ah they won't lynch scumMZ over austin who gets accused by sandroba and rayn anyways" THEN SWITCH TO AUSTIN T_T we need two people to switch over Because if just you switch over it will be 6/6 for austin and MZ and MZ reached majority first. | ||
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On December 07 2013 11:28 jaybrundage wrote: THEN SWITCH TO AUSTIN T_T we need two people to switch over Because if just you switch over it will be 6/6 for austin and MZ and MZ reached majority first. Wait im wrong they didn't count my vote in last vote count | ||
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On December 07 2013 11:31 justanothertownie wrote: I really think austin is more likely to be town and I don't like the way rayn and jay pushed for his lynch/defended MZ. Im trying to lynch who I think is most likely to be scum. This three way split sucks ass. | ||
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On December 07 2013 11:40 mkfuba07 wrote: If you think roffles is more likely scum than MZ, then lynch roffles. It's pretty simple imo. the problem is the complete lack of info. Also I really wanna lynch austin. | ||
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On December 07 2013 11:44 VisceraEyes wrote: This post makes me think austin is a mislynch far more than anything that's been posted anywhere. Do you think Marv was scum. | ||
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On December 07 2013 11:46 VisceraEyes wrote: For someone with a scumread on me, you certainly don't seem to have filtered me recently brah. Answer the fucking question. Don't dodge it. I am 20 pages behind atm. I haven't filtered you cause your not on the table for a lynch. I have been trying filter who's on the chopping block and create my read. | ||
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On December 07 2013 11:47 VisceraEyes wrote: Because it came out of nowhere and I think you're scum and we're 10 minutes from deadline and just a bunch of really little things that culminated with your post. Translation. I have a chance to save my scum buddy | ||
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On December 07 2013 11:48 VisceraEyes wrote: Scum tried to kill me. You're being ridiculous. Lol yea cause some KP on you makes you confirmed town. (SARCASM) A good scum team will do shit like that on the regular. | ||
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On December 07 2013 11:49 justanothertownie wrote: This makes no sense. Austin was the most likely wagon when VE put his vote on him and by switching now he would look ridiculously bad. Austin was the most likely wagon. So therefore VE getting on the wagon early would help him get town cred. Smart scum do this. Good Scum Bus. VE would look bad however he's made this post. Indicating he was considering switching. On December 07 2013 11:44 VisceraEyes wrote: This post makes me think austin is a mislynch far more than anything that's been posted anywhere. | ||
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On December 07 2013 11:58 justanothertownie wrote: There is no towncred if he switches. But he could save a scum buddie. VE perhaps thinks he can wiggle his way out of it. | ||
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On December 07 2013 11:58 VisceraEyes wrote: ^ Jay is just making shit up to justify his god-awful read of me. Comon call me scum. You can't cause i meta'd the shit outta you. | ||
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On December 07 2013 11:59 VisceraEyes wrote: Jay you're way more certain about my alignment than you should be. Where's this certainty on like, ANYONE OR ANYTHING else? I was reading up on the lynch this last 2 hours. Now between the candidates I wanna kill just Austin and have been trying to convince everyone to do the same. How is that not the same. | ||
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On December 07 2013 14:53 gtrsrs wrote: since 2 powers have rage quit can I attempt to draw another power? Kinda like dota where if your teammate dcs you split his gold? I second this | ||
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Some KP on VE would also be great. Koshi how about an invention that can let a VT get a champ role like suggested and then have it be able to be passed on to another VT next night. | ||
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On December 08 2013 03:48 kushm4sta wrote: K i think this is allowed to say this. Another game is about to start and it seems way better than this one! Fresh start and all and stuff. and plus all the rq and pyp mechanics shit of this game. Someone town set up a spreadsheet and gg this game please. IN the meantime i will be spending most of my time in the other game and go into super lurker mode. Kush isn't scum. Why would he say this from a scum perspective. If hes scum the scum team is having a great time. The thread is in chaos. Townies Modkilled everywhere. Scum Paradise. LSB you disappeared for a while. Is this the only thing you have to say tonight. Please talk to me about your Kush scum read. Also have you looked at Coag's filter. Hes very likely lurking scum. | ||
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On December 08 2013 07:24 justanothertownie wrote: I don't see how KP on VE make any sense tonight. Well if scum came into the thread partying that would be kind of suspicious don't you think? Do you have any valid reasons to think kush is town? Apart from that you go for the easy targets again - I am starting to think you are scum. Kush is hard to read but i think his posting has indicated his town. He is pretty straight forward and seems genuine. I commented that this post seems to come from a townie kush seems obvious. Do you disagree with me?. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/AAOoPig.gif) In all seriousness. You seem to be sniping at people with sarcasm with no contribution your self. I expressed a town read on kush in part cause of a post he made and you just add unnecessary comments. And then do it again to jonny. Do you want people to modkill them selves? You aren't creating a good atmosphere for town. Please shape up. | ||
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On December 08 2013 09:30 justanothertownie wrote: You expressed an extremely badly reasoned townread on kush and I asked you about additional reasons. How is this unnecessary? The accusation of me wanting people to modkill themselves over a single sarcastic remark about a guy who didn't even read the thread is unbelievably ridiculous. Why are you throwing shit on me like that? To improve the town atmosphere? I'm not gonna give you a case on why I think Kush is probably town. You dodged my question. Do you think Kush is town. I think my reasoning is fine. When someone is genuine it indicates there more likely town. YOUR the shit flinger here. Your sarcastic snipes don't do town JACK SHIT. So how about you drop them and go find something productive to do. Also I wanted KP on VE cause hes one of my scum reads. However I do agree with the idea of having him say what his parity check is. Forgot about his ability. | ||
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He seems like bullshitting scum. ##Vote Coagulation | ||
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On December 09 2013 02:49 ticklishmusic wrote: @JAT Yes plz update list I have paper to write and I don't want to to anymore friggin' research. :D Every time I read one of Jay's posts I get a feeling he's scum, then pull back and remember he's best Mislynch* NA. | ||
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On December 09 2013 05:37 Koshi wrote: cuz scum just rofling in shadows. Too much butthurt last pages. I wouldn't be surprised if there were one or two active scum players. Like VE for instance. | ||
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On December 09 2013 06:18 ticklishmusic wrote: voting for jay because i've decided he's acting even scummier than best mislynch na. will change depending on what happens when the bomb lands or with new developments. also, we should look at the list and see who is close to mkfuba. i have a feeling that the explosion will splash to those near him. what a cop out vote. zzz | ||
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On December 09 2013 18:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi i need you to invent KP and give it to Risen. Make sure it kills in one-shot. What Ryan I agree with Koshi for this one. Telling him what to invent and then telling him who to give it too is gonna make sure that it gets roleblocked. We need a bit of mystery around it. Seems pretty obvious to me. The whole reason that Risen would make you guys lovers. Is to gain your trust in QT and if he can do that you could convey: Oh wow this Risen guy isn't bad guys. Totes town. Scum can leave normally strong town players alive if they are on the wrong track. Also subconsciously I think people trust people that Mason them. While I could be wrong It doesn't seem like many town players think the person they are masoned with are mafia. Risen is a null/hard to read lurker regardless of alignment. By masoning you he can live for a bit because town won't wanna hit you. Also why would he doc a scum buddy when it seems obvious we don't have the best notion of where scum is ;/ On December 09 2013 20:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's my point, why would he do what he did as mafia regardless of my affiliation? If he is scum he makes me not considered as mafia hit (noone should doc us next night btw). If i am scum too he makes us both exposed to town KP. It makes no sense when he can just doc a scumbuddy instead.. | ||
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On December 09 2013 22:58 Mocsta wrote: jay do u think risen is scum, or simply telling rayn to be cautious? I'm really struggling with what you tried to achieve with that post. I already voted coag seems self evident on what i think about him. Kush im not so sure anymore. I liked him as town earlier but recently his defense of Coag's actions shows he might have ulterior motives | ||
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On December 05 2013 02:09 jaybrundage wrote: IM HELPING :D Yay for content. I think VE is scum. I thought I had made it clear with my early play that i was town. Thats why im confused as to why VE couldn't read me well. He was pretty sure i was town early on. But recently changed my mind. I thought it might have been my fault for not playing town well enough. But then Prom (Isn't Doofus a bit harsh T_T) came and read me easily so my town play was self evident to an extent. But then I remembered that this switch from VE felt familiar. Going back thru his games and in two games he played as scum. He defends me day 1 and saves me to use as a mislynch later on in the game. 2 Times he does this (Note this is a meta based case) The first was Nomination + Show Spoiler + On February 11 2013 08:13 VisceraEyes wrote: This is prplhz' first post with content. I think this post clearly illustrates his scum mindset. My biggest problem with the post is the bolded statement. He already knows Djodref's alignment! Why can't Djodref be scum just putting junk in the thread? He calls it ridiculous himself, it's not going to help anyone find scum...he didn't even put himself in the damn lynch pool when determining the target! So why is it so clear to prplhz that Djodref's nonsense is "some sort of scheme to draw out scum"? This post is regarding JX on D1...the timeline should be clear by the content. The thing I don't like about this post is that in spite of it going to lengths to explain how he was trying to divine JX' alignment, it's clear to me from this post that he already did. Look at the last line (particularly the italicized bit). It's like he was trying to show disinterest in the lynch while keeping a door open to vote for him if he needed to. The lynch went the way scum wanted apparently because he can be found hard defending JX in the form of his laughable sheep onto Snarfs' "case" on me. It's important to note here that prplhz has, up to this point, had ZERO strong scum reads. Even his jaybrundage read is ambiguous and unclear. This is all I can manage today. I had started describing my adventures through filterland after this, but I'm super pressed for time today and won't be back until after lynch. For todays lynch, it's clear (at least to me) that slOosh is trying to illustrate that he'll be here and active tomorrow. I'm not getting that feeling from Palmar at all - he still feels as distant from the game as he did at this point D1. However. Palmar is apparently reading prplhz the same way I am and slOosh wants me dead. Frankly I don't even get why, but the fact is that I think I'll have a shot at getting prplhz lynched tomorrow with Palmar around. Therefor I'm voting for slOosh. Sorry slOosh, stop reading me as scum when I'm town. Also your phagga read is bad because the main thrust of it is a meta analysis between a post from a different game mostly through D1 and a post in this game from the very beginning of D1. If you'd pull your head out of your ##Vote: slOosh On February 21 2013 02:41 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay, I'm starting to understand what's happening here. Oatsmaster, Jaybrundage, phagga Here's my theory. Check out jay's post regarding me. Notice how he's pushing this idea that I wasn't Nominated because I'm scum. It seems sound in theory, except that I haven't been at the pinnacle of my game this game - I defended phagga against slOosh, I defended Oatsmaster against Mocsta - I've been inadvertently playing for the scumteam all game. Why would they want to get rid of me? jaybrundage has been crying "best mislynch NA" all game, like he does every game these days...except, if that's the case, then why hasn't scum tried to mislynch him yet? Something to consider. He wanted me gone bad on D3, and like everyone, is (somehow) convinced that the D3 lynch was between 2 scum. You need only look around today at the state of town, two mislynches away from losing the game, to see that this CAN NOT have been the case. I think debears is onto something with his case on jaybrundage. I think jay is scum. Oatsmaster has been a little harder to read, mainly because I'm not familiar with his play. He's taking sheeping to a whole different level this game. Go read his filter - he has asked who he should lynch every cycle. I wrote him off as town early in the game based on his interactions with Mocsta, but if you look through his filter it's apparent that he hasn't done shit this game. And then out of nowhere today, I'm a scumread for him. I'm not buying it. This cycle was planned, and the plan was "discredit/setup VE for mislynch". phagga is the weakest of my reads after rereading - but after rereading I'm also of the opinion that the three Nominees are all town, leaving phagga in the "could be scum" demographic for me. I didn't like slOosh' case on him (for reasons I stated) but he's right in that phagga keeps backing down from his scumreads (though somehow I bet he's just fine with his read on me) and isn't doing any scumhunting. To me, tomorrow's lynch should be jaybrundage>Oatsmaster>phagga VE should not be lynched because VE is town. This isnt even the only time it happens the second game this happened was in Hero Mini Mafia. VE starts off as defending me as I can be easy lynchbait day 1. + Show Spoiler + On December 11 2012 03:18 VisceraEyes wrote: Morning all. I read through the thread...I'm underwhelmed with Palmar's entrance, and my vote on marv served its purpose (getting him to play like he cares about the game). ##Unvote The case on jay seems to revolve around his lack of commitment to his "scumread" on thrawn based on the miller claim. First of all, I have to say - I don't find that to be particularly damning. First of all, the posts in question were from the first six hours of D1. Secondly, it occurs to me that "I don't really like early bandwagons" is more likely to come from a town player than a scum player. Think about it - while Clarity claims that's "classic scum mindset", is that classic scum play? I agree that scum players tend to not like early bandwagons, but do they come into the thread citing that as their reasoning for avoiding voting for one of their "scumreads"? I think not, considering how it's "classic scum mindset" ya know? To be honest, I can see town jay acting the way he's acting regarding thrawn. Not interested in lynching jay today. "But VE, who would you like to lynch today?" Calm down bish I'm getting there. Based on what I'm seeing, I think Vivax and Palmar could be scum together. First of all, Vivax has this problem with my interest level? Goes so far as to throw times of posts into the mix to appear that he's carefully watching the thread...except, Palmar has shown that he not only doesn't care about the game, he doesn't care about his own alignment in the game. Unfortunately, I've seen Palmar do this as town, so I'm not putting much stock into Palmar's end of it. But Vivax....Vivax is in here actively trying to put suspicion on me for having a townread on thrawn. Literally. I even explained in detail why I thought thrawn was joking, which by the way, he was by his own tongue. I think Vivax is trying to fake contribution. I think he's trying to appear active while doing nothing of value. He claims that in spite of his "analysis" of my actions, he'd STILL vote for thrawn, based on the stale-ass fake-claim. I'm calling bullshit. ##Vote: Vivax On December 11 2012 16:00 VisceraEyes wrote: I changed my mind. I think jaybrundage is scum. After his first post on thrawn in which he says he’s suspicious, he asks my opinion of the matter. I gave it, and that’s the last that was heard about it. Why did he want my input? He never referenced anything I said, or even acknowledged that I said it. I believe that he was just trying to get someone to agree with him regarding thrawn. On December 10 2012 10:37 jaybrundage wrote: Dude... Its not whether we believe you. Your lying simple. Not a single persons believes your claim its about why are you lying. For no damn reason. And what purpose would town have to do that. It only makes sense from a mafia perspective It really makes me uncomfortable when someone else speaks for me, and in this post jaybrundage is telling thrawn that I don’t believe his claim. I didn’t believe his claim, but because I thought his claim was a joke considering that the OP is explicit in the fact that millers are not self-aware. Therefor, I thought his claim was funny. But I certainly didn’t think he was LYING about his claim with any malicious intent. It doesn’t make sense for me to think that he thought that I would believe that claim based on what the OP says. But jaybrundage is telling thrawn in no uncertain terms that I, VisceraEyes, think that he’s lying about his claim for no reason. And that’s not the case. He then goes on to say that “...It only makes sense from a mafia perspective.” But that’s not true either is it? If thrawn is to be believed, he did it as a joke and to “spark discussion” and “ignite conversation” and such. Which, if he’s town, is a reasonable (if misguided) motivation. On December 10 2012 11:03 jaybrundage wrote: Hey Djo can you do us all a favor and type in your vote here when you decide to vote for someone one in the voting thread. It would help out alot and i rather not have to check it till the end of the day. The thing that I don’t like about this post isn’t even that it’s self defeating in the fact that Djo had, in fact, voted in the game thread...which shows that he’s not only not reading the thread, but is closely watching the voting thread...the opposite of what he’d have you believe in the post quoted above. It’s not that. Look at what Djo is saying. He’s saying he believes thrawn was joking too, and is asking someone about their thoughts on anyone else. So he’s ignored my response regarding thrawn. Now he’s insidiously trying to discredit Djo (calling out his not-really-ninja vote in the voting thread) rather than respond to his post requesting discussion outside of thrawn. It all starts to stink like scum pushing an agenda to me. Especially considering, in spite of all of this... On December 11 2012 04:43 jaybrundage wrote: I didnt mean you specifically but some people in TL mafia do. I actually am starting to lean more neutral on Thrawn. In my early mind set I just couldnt see someone misclaiming as a joke, or risk getting them selves lynched. Im a little worried about our lurkers. And i would prefer to see more posts out of ZBoston. Specifically ZBoston what do you think about Claritys case on me and some people soft defending me. Also MunkE has had like 3 posts since his /in and every single one of them is mostly about WBG statistic. Do we really have to nitpick over something like that. WBG was mostly trying to bait Palmar out. Lets hear your thoughts on some cases On Vivax its odd. He seems really interested in going after Thrawns claim and saying that Ve defended it as a joke. When its not a joke. Even when thrawn said his self it was just a joke. That he stubbornly. Refused to explain to generate discussion. I think he is concentrating on thrawns little joke to much to the exclusion of everything else. I can see him being scum. ##Vote Vivax (Because some people get SOOOOO antsy if you dont follow your argument with your vote.) ....HE TAKES IT ALL BACK ANYWAY! That's right, after the whole song and dance about being SOO FRUSTRATED with how he wasn't being paid attention to, and how his motivations only make sense from scum perspective, and in the face of people he has SPECIFICALLY asked their opinion of disagreeing with him, and EVERYTHING....he takes it all back anyway. Because thrawn said it was a joke and it was to generate discussion. Cool. Die. ##Unvote: Vivax ##Vote: jaybrundage I'm going to go reread Vivax now and see if I still think he's scum. This changes things, because I had intended to spend this time writing a case on Vivax...but after reading the votecount and realizing that this jayb wagon was for real, I thought I'd check into him first. I'm glad I did, but now jaybrundage is voting for Vivax as well. We'll see what a reread brings. VE knows how I play he can read me. However he called me town early on and he was right. He didn't want me to get lynched day one and he put an early halt on greptit's push on me. This is beginning to get common place VE don't let people lynch me day 1 and then use me as a mislynch later on. Here was it this game. Soft Defending me. Calling me town cause I demonstrating my town like play and he knows whos town. He always defends me day 1 so no lynch gets pushed on me. More Defending. He slowly changes his opinion so that it be suspicious. He changes it up. From an easy read of town early game. He starts to change it up and wants to not make it suspicious when he wants to swing a mislynch on me. Till He turns it around and wants to lynch me. I wouldnt be suprised if he was planning to right up a case on me tommorow or just go with thread sentiment as I'm an easy mislynch and let me be lynched. /meta Also the "reluctant" vote knowing that Bum is town. HOWS THIS FOR CONTENT VE YOU SCUMMER. VE comes full circle with this post making clear his intentions to try to lynch me even tho he knows im not scum as demonstrated by his easy reads of me day 1. Hes scummy as fuck and after we kill Coag I think we should kill VE. On December 10 2013 06:50 VisceraEyes wrote: Frankly, I didn't check the op because I assumed the revealed power WAS the lantern - it was the only one mentioned in the thread (I'm assuming because it's been a factor) so I just assumed that the lantern was the revealed power. That was my bad for not checking the OP, and I agree that it was a poor choice. That being said, I think JayB is scum. He's been hiding inside this VE tunnel for as long as he's been participating in the game. I pressured him D1 and ever since then he's had a "scumread" on me, yet he has done nothing to actually try and prove it to town and has done nothing to try and get information about "my team" from me. He's faking contribution and I think he's scum. I think there's scum inside Roffles/LSB/gtsrs, but unfortunately there's no way for me to prove that outside of saying "look guys, they clearly obviously don't give a shit about the game" and that's not alignment indicative in this game apparently. I also think supersoft is scum. He's typically very outspoken with his reads, and very confident in his reads. This game he's been fading into the background, and I feel like he's happy to be there. | ||
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Then after that I did my best to lynch austin out of the candidates (Roffles, MZ, Austin) cause i thought he had the best chance of flipping scum while i was wrong I tried my best to get the person lynched I thought would have the highest chance of flipping scum. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO die plz scum kthxbye | ||
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On December 10 2013 07:50 kushm4sta wrote: @jayb what if he really thinks you are scum this game? He knows im not scum cause he's scum duh. | ||
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On December 10 2013 07:54 kushm4sta wrote: thanks for reminding me why isn't ticklish modkilled when it clearly states in the OP that a second editing offense will result in a modkill? Haven't we had enough modkills. I also dont understand your reasoning for wanting someone to get modkilled unless you suspect them of being on the opposite faction. So tell me do you think ticklish is mafia? | ||
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On December 10 2013 08:07 ticklishmusic wrote: Cuz right now we are losing 7-0 or whatever as if I die for mafia I can say worth | ||
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On December 10 2013 10:01 Mocsta wrote: GTRSRS, I hope you read this. The game is not over. Not even 5 people have died. Everyone needs to keep reading and posting thoughts. If you're time is scarce, perhaps i can save you time by pointing you in the direction of people I find scummy. In exchange, you share your open thoughts about these people. This helps us get a solid read on you, and makes your life easier when you are time poor. If town, this is a Win-Win. So my major shit list: {Kush, Jonnylaw} My minor shit list: {LSB + 1 of (Jay/VE) + 1 of (Koshi/MZ)} | ||
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On December 10 2013 10:21 JonnyLaw wrote: Finally we start getting rid of the scummy lurkers. ##vote: Coagulation Speaking of the devil. Jonny can you write up a list of your reads plz.town and scum sank youuuu | ||
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On December 10 2013 11:00 Mocsta wrote: Says the last man on an 19man wagon... Why is this scummier than jumping on the wagon in the last hour with zero contributions all cycle when almost lynched last cycle? Mocsta your doing it wrong. We /ignore the troll. /ignore roffles See its great :D | ||
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Rayn can you please chill the fuck out and drop the negative attitude it creates a thread atmosphere that isn't wanted or needed all your doing is calling everyone shit and saying how you wanna quit the game. Your letting your emotions get the better of you and aren't playing logically. We just caught a scum we have some info and are on the right track. You are getting mad that your reads aren't being followed well you can be wrong dude. You are acting like you got alignment checks and town are fucking you over by ignoring you. As someone that has pegged VE as scum and no one wants to vote for him I feel your frustration. However just keep extrapolating on your reads and don't bring this I wanna lynch my self bla bla bullshit. It's so frustrating that we have townies doing this who won't just chill the fuck out and are playing against there win con. | ||
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Also I think you might be misinformed. Karma doesn't have a heal its a shield. Its a shield in League and I believe that he said it was a shield. It wouldn't be permanent then amirite? I don't see a biggie with Risen protecting you. However if hes protecting him self that maybe not be the smartest idea lol. We have been coordinating KP to burst a single player (Jonny I believe) So he wouldn't have to worry about town killing him. He hasn't been playing very town like and being a big presence. While he is a good role I think there are bigger threats that mafia would want to eliminate. Just my 2 cents. But please try to keep a level head. The game can be frustrating but your only hurting town if you go around creating a shitty atmosphere. On December 11 2013 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am sorry for being negative but i find it quite frustrating that half of the thread is is telling Risen to keep alive a dude who can possibly kill scum in about 9 nights by shooting the same person over and over again. When the alternative is to keep alive a doctor that heals more than apparently any other doctor AND a guy who can block mafia night kill. So yeah, i'm terribly sorry if i don't find the thread sentiment reasonable regarding Risen's power use tonight. | ||
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On December 11 2013 08:37 jaybrundage wrote: @SS I have not taken damage. EDIT This part was directed to Rayn. Just to avoid confusion. Also I think you might be misinformed. Karma doesn't have a heal its a shield. Its a shield in League and I believe that he said it was a shield. It wouldn't be permanent then amirite? I don't see a biggie with Risen protecting you. However if hes protecting him self that maybe not be the smartest idea lol. We have been coordinating KP to burst a single player (Jonny I believe) So he wouldn't have to worry about town killing him. He hasn't been playing very town like and being a big presence. While he is a good role I think there are bigger threats that mafia would want to eliminate. Just my 2 cents. But please try to keep a level head. The game can be frustrating but your only hurting town if you go around creating a shitty atmosphere. Rayn can state the karma abilty please If I understand correct it can heal 300 for one person or half that (150) for two. Wouldn't it be best if he targeted only you. So that if Mafia tries to unload a big chunk of KP He could protect you with more life as opposed to him dying regardless cause his health is lower? | ||
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On December 11 2013 08:44 supersoft wrote: You mean you have to expand since you lied about your role and I will reveal that? Nope not what I mean :o | ||
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On December 11 2013 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: When he targets me he automatically targets us both --> heals 300 on both of us. Coolio go for it. | ||
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On December 11 2013 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: JL will probably be modkilled either way.. Doubt it. It would be nice if all the scummy lurkers would be modkilled but obvious that's something we can't rely on. Besides Rean who would be the next person you would target. | ||
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On December 11 2013 09:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: tbh I'm a bit puzzled as you guys all seem to be sure MZ is mafia why are you not killing him? MZ is not on my scum list atm. I thought he was more likely town out of Austin and him. However after he is out of danger he got more lurky then i like. | ||
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On December 11 2013 09:58 Mocsta wrote: This game seriously... *I* have been pushing for a JL lynch since Day fucking One, and everyone disses it -- even when a flipped townie came to the same conclusion as me. Like fuck this. My case on JL hasn't changed because hes done *NOTHING* since. The case simply can not evolve; and now suddenly you guys want to shoot him. don't get me wrong, *PLEASE SHOOT/LYNCH HIM* but this is fucking frustrating. In my opinion: The real question should be: With towns limited KP, who do we want to lynch next cycle. Because there is zero value to shooting someone to 50% and then lynching them.... Thus, to shoot JL we need a solid alternative to consider lynching next cycle. e.g. Kush or LSB So either Shoot JL and lynch 1 of {Kush, LSB} or Shoot 1 of {Kush, LSB} and lynch JL I prefer lynching JL, because I am very confident he is scum. So I advocate shooting someone like LSB --> because he is of higher value to scum as a hero than a VT Kush Hey Mate yea I am trying too look over Jonny cause I haven't paid him much attention this game. I was reading over Prome's case on him and it looks good. Prome highlighted some bad posts from Jonny and it seems after that jonny dropped of the earth. I thought Jonny had a good early game but he fell of the mini map after that (lol) Prome got replaced in and he died in what like a day. He stated Coag was scummy and was 4 on his 1 to 5 lynch scale (5 being must lynch) A big part of why he died is because scum was scared of him cause his reads were solid. Coag being a scum read and flipping scum is indicative of that. For another lynch if we gonna leave jonny to die by KP how about gtrsrs. He has been posting League Info for the early parts of the game. And recently he has dropped off the earth. Here was a bit of Prome's case on Gtrsrs PROME'S On December 05 2013 01:26 gtrsrs wrote: i'm going to the gym. when i get back i'm going to take a shower and make breakfast. if my girlfriend is still asleep and nothing comes up by that point, i'll make my case for a lynch. if she's up, my case will have to wait until probably 3pm pst today. either way i'll do my best to have a cohesive lynch case by the end of today (dec 4th) i feel strongly about my read. if my case is strong enough to convince you to lynch my suspect, and i turn out wrong, i'd like to be lynched the next day please. i just simply don't feel strongly enough about anyone other than my target to make any conclusive assessments yet, yet i feel like you guys are putting a lot of pressure on lurkers to perform more (and rightly so). i will probably have my confidence shaken and be even more worthless if i'm wrong on this one thanks I'm so sorry Johhnylaw! I said you had the worst single post in the game. I lied. gtsrs has the worst post of the game (which I have read so far, there might be a hidden gem) Breakdown of why this post is awful and makes gtsrs red on my spreadsheet (if I had one he would be anyway) 1. pre excuses lurking 2. says he will make a case on a particular individual but does not name the individual, leaving room to make a case on the town wagon leader and claiming credit for an early read. 3. pre excuses that read flipping town 4. martyrs early all in all the above post is an attempt to do dick all. Take credit for leading a lynch. Be useless. Garner pity. would lynch rated a solid 4.5 /PROME'S Gtrsrs has since then posted a Big Case on Soniv and then after that done nothing. Time constraints I get but he has to step it up or we have practically nothing to read him from which is scum motivated. | ||
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Rean was town i was right on my early read on him (yay me) Although lately his activity has made me question my read. @Rayn you tunneled Rean hard keep that in mind next time you are bashing the thread for not following your reads. People will use there own judgement and consdier you can be wrong. I was wrong about VE but I never tried to ruin the thread atmosphere because people were not helping me lynch VE. Quite surprised for VE flipping town. I had him pegged scum for sure. SORRY VE So moving on for who we wanna lynch today. I could go for Kush, Gtrsrs, Onegu comes to mind just cause of how hes been lurking so hard. | ||
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On December 11 2013 12:46 Mocsta wrote: Wait a sec.. you got the lantern? Why the fuck would jcarl give you the lantern of all people? I thought he said it was going to SS? Why would he give me lantern umm lemme think about it. Oh yea he did it + Show Spoiler + CAUSE IM AWESOME!!!!!! | ||
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On December 11 2013 12:49 sandroba wrote: @jay can you do us a favor and role claim please? If you did it already I somehow missed it. I tried picking lux and im VT and I have previously claimed | ||
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I'll go thru dissecting your case. I'll be using red ink CAUSE FUCK THE META. BAD LSB CASE On December 11 2013 12:56 LSB wrote: Yeah I'm gonna finger jaybrundage as my mafia candidate. The major reason why I think jaybrundage is scum is due to his day two play. And his odd push on Austinmcc and drawing the heat off of MZ The strangest part of jaybrundage's play is what he did during the day two lynch. Instead of focusing on major lynch targets who were being suspected of scum, he tried to focus town discussion on Austinmcc and Roffles, two lurkers You say I didn't focus on the major lynch candidates there was 3 major lynch candidates and I tried to focus on two of them. So your point is illogical here. What you meant so say was I didn't focus discussion on MZ. Which is correct out of the three candidates I believed he had the biggest chance out of them to flip town. Also not sure if you can classify austin as a lurker he was posting more then lurker status compared to others in this town. On December 07 2013 10:12 jaybrundage wrote: KK lets talk on consolidating on Roffles or austin. If your town you should get off the MZ wagon. Letting there be three wagons lets scum manipulate it much easier. We should narrow this down between 2 people. I'm still on the fence regarding the two. But MZ should NOT be a lynch candidate today. This is pretty suspicious, no only because a vote between two lurkers is not a very informative discussion (it just boils down to a this person is lurking harder than the other), but really jaybrundage shows he really doesn't care about who gets lynched day 2. If I didn't care why would I try so hard to take the lynch off of MZ. You need to make up your mind. Do I not care about the lynch or am I trying to protect my (in your eyes) scum buddy. Consider the tone between these two posts On December 05 2013 14:43 jaybrundage wrote: Im a bit annoyed because you don't seem to be trying. Your case on austin seems nonexistent. Hes a lurker you asked him a question and you called him scum. My only thinking that you could have any validity to your case on austin is if you have a blue roll that gives you a check. But even then it would have been in the day time and that seems unlikely. Please try..... Plz? On December 07 2013 10:17 jaybrundage wrote: Fuck it lets kill Austin. He should give us way more information. Because he made more reads (even if there town reads) as opposed to roffles who has said jack shit. We should just take care of Roffles via KP. He is lurking hardcore and he is playing anti town as shit. His death gives us nothing to go off of. I wouldn't be surprised if austin and Roffles are both on scum team. And they send roffles out to be a distraction to both get heat off austin and if we lynch austin its unlikely we will lynch roffles because the stereotype is that hes just a anti town trolling townie instead of a scum making plays. ##Unvote ##VOTE AUSTINMCC Although Jaybrundage doesn't outright say it. He really doesn't care about the current lynch, in fact his major reasons for the lynch are 1) Austin gave out a lot of town reads (pretty hypocritical considering how many townreads Jaybrundage threw out himself). 2) Austin will give out a lot of 'valuable information' 1. I GAVE OUT MANY TOWNREADS???? Now your just making shit up. I gave Rean a town read early day 1 cause of his Doublelift impressions and how geniune and carefree they were and I was right btw. The only other town reads I gave out was late day 1 cause VE was pressuring me to give out my reads and he gave me Mocsta and MZ's filter to read. And I stated I thought both appeared townie. 3 reads out of 30 And two of them forced. Please don't bullshit in cases. 2.Between Austin and Roffles my thinking was that we could see more connects between players with Austin who had alot more content in the thread then roffles who hadn't said and still hasn't said jack shit. Information lynches are horrible because they are a misnomer, they don't give out any information at all. If Ausitn is town, no information is gleaned. If Austin is scum no information is gleaned. It is all to likely that the town is misguided or the mafia is bussed. In addition Jaybrundage misrepresented Austin's filter, austin got in trouble not because of all his town reads, but rather how he went around doing his scum reads. Woah Woah Woah Reading thru Austin's filter I saw a shit load of town read's which is very easy for scum to replicate as they know who's town and can call it out with out having to give any good reasons. This was MY analysis of Austins filter. I can have my own reasons for voting Austin. Are you really trying stating that everyone should just parrot and sheep the original cases. WTF? To call Austin's filter a mess of town reads is not just an over-exaggeration it is a complete misrepresentation. Again MY analysis This is very indicative of forcing analysis and suggests he has an alternative agenda Indeed Jaybrundage has a lot of difficulty in saying why austin is scum, most of his points rely on the so called information that can be gained from lynching austin (and what information is that now that austin has flipped?). What he is more interested in is defending Meepak_Ziphh See we can agree on this. I thought MZ had the greatest chance to flip town so I defended my heart out. Could I be wrong? Yes. But if I think someone is a townie I fight with conviction to keep them off the block. (This can go bad occasionally tho in a past game I hard defended scum and when he got found out I got mislynched as town, hopefully not the case this game) Even in his case against austin he can't but help go on a long tangent about why Meepak is town Your misrepresenting me I posted reasons for austin being scum. And then I posted reasons why I think MZ is town. It wasn't just a case on austin. The intention was to give reasons why I thought Austin was scum, and give reasons I thought MZ was town. On December 07 2013 10:54 jaybrundage wrote: Yea just finished reading MZ's filter I think that hes probably town he sounds sincere in alot of his posts. And austin is scum. Part of the reason why I think austin is scum is the first part of the game He SOLELY (hyberbole) gives town reads. He gives town read after town read after town read. This is very easy for scum to do. They know who's town so they can go off little things in posts to try to establish rap with other townies. (if he thinks im town he must be town reading me line of thinking) He then harps on MZ for bothering Koshi. Yes MZ is constantly bugging Koshi. I think the reason for MZ's tunneling Koshi is a couple reasons. A. MZ thinks Koshi might be scum. B. Koshi is inventor so he can make sweet stuff that ideally would be given to townies. C. Koshi being inventor IS NOT ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE D. Koshi is not contributing much to scum hunting E Koshi being scum in MZ's eyes and is being ignored as a lynch candidate because of his Power Is driving MZcrazy and makes it keep coming back to Koshi to put pressure on him. That is my idea why MZ kept bothering Koshi even tho hes not a lynch candidate atm. I think this is the real reason why Jaybrundage wanted to lynch austin. He wants to draw the heat away from Meepak_Ziphh. However he tries to do it indirectly Again Bullshit I hard defended MZ there was nothing indirect about it. I defended MZ and wanted to lynch Austin. by forcing a lynch on Austin and in doing so demonstrates that he is forcing a lynch, as well as demonstrating that he doesn't care about the lynch in the first place. Again This makes no sense I can't not care about the lynch but also want to save MZ. Your case is all over the place and has contradicting statements. Do I not care about the lynch. Or Do I care about the lynch and am redirecting the lynch to save (in your eyes) my scum buddy MZ) /BAD LSB CASE | ||
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On December 11 2013 14:58 Mig wrote: Why did jcarl give jay a lantern. That makes literally 0 sense, and if you had the lantern why didnt you mention this so super wouldn't waste his check on you. Why wouldn't jcarl have warned the thread when this was being discussed and seriously why the fuck would jcarl give a lantern to jay instead of protecting someone who actually has a power. I wasn't around when you guys were talking about checking me. By the time I came back to the thread it was too late. | ||
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On December 11 2013 16:51 Mocsta wrote: Koshi. Who'd u give the invention to? And what does it do We shouldn't be asking Koshi to reveal who he gave the item too. Just makes it easier for scum to stop it or disrupt it. Even telling us what the item does is unnecessary. While we are all curious the information will be revealed when it needs to be revealed. Giving scum free info and know who to roleblock ect ect. Isn't helping town at all. | ||
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For a second lynch I would like to suggest maybe Onegu, Gtrsrs, Roffles, Kush maybe as well. | ||
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Reading up on the QT with Risen. I actually think we should leave him for now and let scum kill him off as he is low and he does have a shield that we can use to save town. Going forward we should direct Risen where to use his shield and we can waste scum KP on it by shielding high priority targets so that they have to ignore the target all together waste a roleblock on Risen. Or simply shooting Risen for us. I find it odd that Risen was so against shielding SS or anyone else for that matter But him and Rayn and that he forgot to do it :/ If Risen doesn't die then we can just kill him off with KP later on if he remains suspicious after we have killed more scummy people. So for lynch lets go between Gtrsrs, Roffles Onegue, and maybe Kush, | ||
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On December 12 2013 02:23 kushm4sta wrote: jaybrundage likes jungling hmm? | ||
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On December 12 2013 02:35 jcarlsoniv wrote: I don't get this. If we think Risen is scum, then we need to lynch him. We don't have the luxury of just waiting him out to see if scum kills him. Your plan is to direct one of our few town powers left so that it's easy for scum to shoot him? Actually, your plan is to literally "let scum kill him off" Now, I haven't decided if I think Risen is scum yet, but quickly skimming the QT, I don't see anything that immediately makes me want to say "yeah we should leave him up so scum can kill him". But I still have trouble with "oops I totally forgot to use the role that me and rayn spent a not insignificant amount of time planning out". What do you see, Jay, that makes you want to leave him up? Also, you likely won't get a fleshed out case today from me (real time today). I have some stuff I need to get done at work by end of day, so I can't spend a whole ton of time posting. I see him as a scummy lurker. But hey we have alot of those. I'm not so sure of his alignment either way, He gave an uncaring feeling form the QT making him appear as a unengaged townie. However his actions are pretty questionable that after being so psycked to shield and help rayn he just "forgets" to do it I think there is reasons he can both be town and scum so pretty much null maybe even third party. Given that information I think we can save him for his role for now, utilizing his shield for the town to benefit from. I think there are better lynches that I have said multiple times. Gtrsrs, Onegu, Roffles, and Kush. | ||
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On December 12 2013 02:37 Mig wrote: jay what do you think about LSB? You seem to feel his case is terrible why arent you suggesting him as a lynch candidate. I haven't actually looked at LSB much at all. So that's why I don't have much of an opinion on him. What are you thoughts on LSB :o | ||
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On December 12 2013 05:26 Mid or Feed wrote: In case anyone was wondering, this was the contents of JayB's edited post: Thx for not killing me <3. | ||
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On December 12 2013 06:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: Risen can you mason me again next night? I am feeling lonely. I would suggest that we utilize his shield much more useful for town. You can PM Risen on TL if your feeling lonely and talk about to him about non-game stuff. Or if you like the ambiance make a QT for you and Risen, you guys can cozy up on skype watch some netflix together. It will be nice time. Joking aside (got a bit carried away there lol) I think when you were in the QT you because less logical towards Risen. He can very well be scum. He hasn't contributed jack to the thread. He has no interest in finding scum. He just wants to get to end game ffs (Points to him being 3p). Hell Rayn you even wanted to make Koshi give the invention to Risen based on nothing but some QT conversations. He hasn't done much of anything to be considered town. So ya I'm done with my rant. | ||
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I like the Ideas LSB has contributed. | ||
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On December 12 2013 07:15 Koshi wrote: rayn has a weakness for mason partners. it has been proven. Are you referring to another game? Or are you talking about this one? | ||
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How about you use those eggs for balls. And don't ignore how i responded too your case. A town would want to listen to the defense of the accused because they don't know the alignment of others. A scum however makes some bullshit up for a case that he knows isn't true and then does it best to appear like he cares about the lynch. YOU LSB dont care about this lynch I responded to your case and you ignore my response instead of reading it over and either giving a counter argument or stating how I was wrong. You just pretend it never happened. Welp fuck that. ##Vote LSB ##Vote Roffles Voting Roffles cause it's become clear that quite alot of the scum team are lurking like crazy. | ||
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I'm just disappointed. When you accuse a man of being scum. Give a reason. Love Dad On December 12 2013 08:25 jcarlsoniv wrote: damn son nice shot JAT yay 2 votes ##vote: jaybrundage ##vote: gtrsrs | ||
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On December 12 2013 09:04 LSB wrote: Well considering JL just flipped red I'm just gonna say I'm pretty happy that you are suspecting me. It's funny you talk about "having balls" when you turn around and vote probably the two easiest people to accuse. I've been lurking hard and roffels even harder Why are you avoiding the issue of replying to my response of your case. Yea I just vote the easiest people in the thread /sarcasm. That's why I thought SS, VE, and Marv and wanted to lynch them. Honestly your complete lack of reason has lead me to the conclusion that your scum not that its "easy" | ||
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On December 12 2013 09:11 jaybrundage wrote: Why are you avoiding the issue of replying to my response of your case. Yea I just vote the easiest people in the thread /sarcasm. That's why I thought SS, VE, and Marv EDIT were scum and wanted to lynch them. Honestly your complete lack of reason has lead me to the conclusion that your scum not that its "easy" EBWODP (I'm doing it right :D) | ||
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On December 12 2013 09:15 Mocsta wrote: ##Unvote My scum reads are voting for my scum reads... sigh Expand on this. Could be an SK like sandroba suggested | ||
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On December 12 2013 09:14 justanothertownie wrote: Everyone voting roffles shoud remember that both flipped scum voted roffles day 2. I guess a bus is not impossible (especially since roffles is dead weigth) but I think it also is not needed at that point. Vote MZ instead. Hmm that's a good point. Although Roffles was also voting for himself. So maybe he wanted to be done with the game (He obvious isn't playing) and give his team townie points. We can't count on the scum team to do the most logical thing. Like just look at how Coag played. However even with that being said I do agree that Roffles chance of being scum is less likely given that two scum were on him. ##UnVote Roffles The other thing is that if roffles is unlikely scum then I still think it's likely that there were no scum on the chopping block on MZ, Austin, Roffles lynch day. What do you think sandroba. | ||
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On December 12 2013 09:24 LSB wrote: No matter how much time I spend arguing with you I don't think I can convince you to vote yourself. Plus it is written in red which is hard to read Roffles did it. Where's your faith. Also the main reason you can't convince me to vote my self is your case was so terrible. | ||
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On December 12 2013 09:28 Roffles wrote: I can do anything. Oh yea bet you can't modkill your self | ||
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On December 12 2013 12:01 kushm4sta wrote: roffles is the only one left who has played lol... he is our greatest asset. A-hem. | ||
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On December 12 2013 12:13 Mig wrote: Your posts at the start of the game were quite decent Roffles. Are you being salty now because you got a warning for telling someone to kill themselves? Roffles is a natural asshole. The poor thing is confused and he's being forced out of his element. Killing and putting him out of his misery is the best thing we can do for him. | ||
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On December 12 2013 14:36 Oatsmaster wrote: There have been like 0 cases on MZ, where is all the push coming from? Sandro? Sandro has been consistently wrong the whole game except for JL. Or Sandro is scum. Probably not though, unless he somehow found out how to play scum properly I'm curious. Is there a big tell for Sandro playing scum. Why couldn't he be scum this game. | ||
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On December 13 2013 01:57 Koshi wrote: LSB has been hard pressuring MZ for a while now. LSB and JayB got like a private thing going on in which they call each other scum. JayB, why isn't he scum? He wrote stuff in red. Will vote MZ/JayB atm. I know I am sheeping LSB, the guy with the most votes. ##vote: MZ ##vote: jaybrunage I didn't even notice LSB until he made a terrible case on me. When I responded to his shit case. He didn't even address it. He has no intention to discern my alignment. So he's scum. Why are you calling me scum Koshi. I did write stuff in red. Is that your case? | ||
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Hm I'm gonna throw out this for a scum team. SS MZ LSB Gtrsrs Jcarl? | ||
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On December 13 2013 03:49 Koshi wrote: And I have 0 clues who from LSB/Jaybrundage is scum but I am thinking 1 is. jaybrundage could you tell me which player you are? And in what team you are? i was tabbz on the lemondogs team I breadcrumbed it like at the beginning of the game | ||
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On December 13 2013 03:46 Koshi wrote: That's a big part of my case. But There is also that you weren't on Roffles D2. While LSB was. I have major issues believing 3 scummers voted in a row for the same guy. If you add jcarlsoniv then you have 4. Kinda crazy. This is pure WIFOM | ||
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On December 13 2013 10:04 justanothertownie wrote: So yeah, the only fitting person I think could possibly be lynched instead of LSB right now is jay. ##Vote: MZ ##Vote: jaybrundage Why do you want to lynch me but never take the time to write something substantial on me. Or are you just sheeping on the LSB shit case. Prome pointed out that we have a history and he can read me well. He said i was town. I have tried to contribute and go after my reads and ect etc. So please tell me why you think I'm scum. Unrelated to how I have played a Big town tell as Prome pointed out. Me and ticklishmusic never turned in our draft numbers. If i was really in a scum QT don't you think i would of talked to my scum buddies actually understood how PYP games work. As this is my first game of PYP and I didn't know we had to do bans and turn in numbers in the same phase. So i never got to turn in draft numbers. | ||
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On December 13 2013 11:16 justanothertownie wrote: So basically you are hiding behind stupidity again, jay? Coags former self didn't send in numbers either btw. Dude who the fuck do you think your talking to? I have never played PYP before. I wasn't aware of all the phases and when to do things. You're also wrong on my fucking alignment so fucking blow me prick. | ||
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On December 13 2013 11:30 justanothertownie wrote: Well guess what. I also did never play PYP before. Kush stop your modkilling demands it is sickening. Hey I got an idea. How about you do two things for me. !. Go learn how to communicate with people properly, and not come off like a douche bag. (Rayn already asked you to do this one) 2. Go write a case for me. | ||
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On December 13 2013 11:46 justanothertownie wrote: No comment needed. But I guess your little outburst looked rather genuine. Maybe I should believe Promes case on you being just a doofus. Rayn asked you the same thing in a completely civil manner. However you continue to do the same thing. I was hoping to speak a language you understand. Prome was correct on his read off me and ticklish because we forgot our numbers was correct. However I joined the game at the very last minute due to replacements leaving people /outing. I skimmed the OP and missed it. Shit happens. | ||
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Rayn might be scum I haven't thought about it much. | ||
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On December 13 2013 12:21 sandroba wrote: I guess every single roleblock is acounted for except for Risen. Can you guys guess what I'm thinking here? Risen scum? | ||
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On December 13 2013 03:34 jaybrundage wrote: The MZ stuff going on does make sense about his second ability being way to weak compared to other abilities. Hm I'm gonna throw out this for a scum team. SS MZ LSB Gtrsrs Jcarl? Funny stuff ain't it. | ||
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On December 13 2013 13:06 gtrsrs wrote: really sorry i had to afk guys, obviously lots more going on than i had anticipated for me. gl town! Thanks buddy <3 | ||
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If Risen is mafia then he will just lie. If you think that me and Risen are mafia then the plan is still dumb. If we were scum buddies I would scream bloody murder at him in the QT for him masoning me and then damaging us both. He would be playing against his wincon and that's bannable. The whole plan isn't thought thru glad you guys decided to scrap it. Also I see people who are clamoring to shot me but I still have not seen a case. I know I hard defended MZ but I had a similar situation when I was town in Hero Mini Mafia. I hard defended VE (who was scum) while I was town. I was convicted that he was town even tho I didn't know about his alignment I thought I had read him well and I made some convoluted post about how with math and the number of scum there were in this game VE couldn't be mafia. I defended VE much harder then I defended MZ this game. Here are some posts I made in Hero Mini Mafia Defending VE who was scum and I was town. On December 18 2012 09:30 jaybrundage wrote: Ok we have ten people left to vote. If marv is right about 4 mafia then we have 7 town and 3 mafia left. That means that out of the 7 people that voted VE 1 of them is mafia. As i as town have not voted for VE There is no reason to bus VE as Djo was a easy option considering if hes town. Also if VE is townie that means that there are 2 scum on this lynch. So therefore we shouldnt lynch VE cause 2 scum on on VE's lynch wagon Any questions? Talking about VE On December 18 2012 09:32 jaybrundage wrote: I rather have a no lynch then a mislynch. On December 18 2012 09:33 jaybrundage wrote: Lets go people GTFOFF of VE On December 18 2012 09:37 jaybrundage wrote: Guys its fucking math. VE isnt scum. I dont care if we dont have a lynch. But it should be obvious if you read my post that hes not scum On December 18 2012 09:39 jaybrundage wrote: Why the HELL WOULD I AS SCUM BE TRYING TO STOP A VE LYNCH. HES EITHER A TOWN AND IM THE DUMBEST MAFIA PLAYER EVER. OR HES SCUM IN WHICH CASE I WOULD JUST BUS HIS ASS. BUT if im town. And then that means that the fucking math makes perfect sense. VE ISNT SCUM On December 18 2012 09:39 jaybrundage wrote: IT doesnt matter jsut get off VE if we have a no lynch its better then killing town a claimed cop on top of that. On December 18 2012 09:41 jaybrundage wrote: If you assume im town then it makes perfect sense. BUT YOU have to go with the premise that im town. Does anything im doing make sense form a scum perspective. ofcnot Now get of VE lynch thrawn i think your town but we need you to step up right now and get off of VE lynch On December 18 2012 09:44 jaybrundage wrote: wtf guys why is no one moving we have like 14 mins left On December 18 2012 09:45 jaybrundage wrote: I realize that we prolly wont be able to consolidate on any other player especially considering that mafia are going to try to fuck us up from getting a fix on em. But going for this mislynch is stupid as fuck. On December 18 2012 09:47 jaybrundage wrote: Considering that he is actually considering this. I would say no. As scum would be against it. I could see a scum team being. Vivax, Z-Boson, And my favorite Marv. Anyone down for a Vivax or Zboson lynch But regardless if we dont consoldate i think we should get of VE On December 18 2012 09:49 jaybrundage wrote: Hapa get off of VE be a hero :O On December 18 2012 09:50 jaybrundage wrote: Djo are you here too. get off the lynch wagon we can do this On December 18 2012 09:52 jaybrundage wrote: QQ nine mins. are you guys even here? On December 18 2012 09:53 jaybrundage wrote: lol nice job lynching scum marv. Oh wait nvm you have been useless Quoting the post where I made my first Math case on VE for him being town. On December 18 2012 10:00 jaybrundage wrote: BUMP FOR TRUTHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So as you can see me being town and hard defending scum by accident has happened before. The reason I think this is because as town if i have a town read on someone I have conviction to try to save (who I think) is my fellow town teammate. When ever I play scum I ALWAYS lynch my scum buddies if they fall under suspicion (with the exception of maybe the first games I played scum in when I didn't know the concept of bussing). I believe very much that a scum team should bus often and as much as possible. In all my mafia games that i can think of I have bussed when ever I get the chance. As scum I will occasionally defend someone that is town. But as scum I NEVER Defend one of my fellow scum mates. Hope this clears some stuff up. Please feel free to to check the mafia database and double check the accuracy of what I have said. | ||
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On December 14 2013 05:44 Risen wrote: I'm saying I know but also I'm a troll who linked Koshi and I. Now everything is falling apart and I don't want to be in this game so here's how it's going to go down. Jcarl is scum as fuck for giving me the lantern. Shoot him, we'll both get rocked and so will Koshi. Koshi is scum as fuck because he is. Shoot him, we'll both get rocked. Town coordinate on whether you want three people dead or two people dead. OR don't shoot any of us and waste a night of doing something then waste tomorrow (you guys don't know it will be a waste, but it will be). I mean there's like two scum left at this point I think and I have a chance to kill two of my scum reads. Let's fucking do this boys. Did you already link Koshi? What changed your read on me? | ||
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On December 14 2013 05:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have absolutely no idea of Risen's alignment tbh. At least you can admit it now  He is a bit of an enigma | ||
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On December 15 2013 00:49 Risen wrote: "What a stupid thing to do trying to take out your scum read when for all you know scum is stacking kp on mig and your shield isn't a true protect" Risen your objective as a townie is for the town to kill the mafia. Protecting your self someone who may very well be lynched now. Instead of protecting someone who was very townie and was helping lynching mafia doesn't make much sense. On December 15 2013 00:57 Risen wrote: Or I could have decided to protect myself by linking to a scum read... | ||
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##Vote Risen After Risen lets kill Mocsta | ||
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On December 15 2013 04:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: i don't think jcarl is scum, his explanations for his powers make sense. jayB i think is scum. Maybe Mocsta, mayse some lurker. Hard to say when all the people who post are the same people over and over again. Did you read my defense. Its frustrating have people call you scum when your town. But none writes a case you can address. I thinking lynching Risen and then going for mocsta would be idea. What do you think rayn | ||
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On December 15 2013 05:42 sandroba wrote: forget about that and lynch jay and mocsta is my opinion. took a look at last pages of risens filter and look townie. wait for me and ill argue it better tomorrow. cya Sandrobo your terrible at reading me. Go away T_T | ||
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On December 15 2013 06:13 jaybrundage wrote: I believe everytime sandro plays with me he lynches me Mislynches me* | ||
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On December 15 2013 12:06 kushm4sta wrote: oats is always on the sidelines in every single game whats a convenient way to tell if hes scum or town. | ||
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So what do you guys think of Mocsta lying about his HP. I don't see anypoint in doing so unless as scum he wanted to hide the fact that he had 50 KP and is a caster minion and didn't want to take accountability for using it on townies. Scum have shown that they will lie about there abilities this game so they can use them freely. (MZ about Wukong ult, Coag about Zigg's ult) Mocsta said he had 1k hp. On December 02 2013 13:06 Mocsta wrote: Im vt with 1k hp But then he gets hit with 150 kp and then he says hes at 1k hp things don't add up. On December 11 2013 20:21 Mocsta wrote: Heres some options: (A) I''m not lying. As already mentioned *I* was hit for 150dmg so I am sitting at 1000hp. Mig can easily do a HP check on me to verify I have >850hp (B) Why do I need to guess what hits for 325HP? I mean, JAT hasn't claimed his dmg yet; and we don't even know the limit of factional KP. This is a stupid question that promotes zero discussion (C) Its safe to assume scum hit sandroba with 1KP; thus, why can't they hit you with 25kp? (D) I could be lying about being a caster VT; and if so, what purpose does this carry if i was scum? I could easily claim caster, and then be all pro-town by hitting people town asked me to. I literaly cannot do anything. (E) You are bullshitting you taunted me. If you did, I would have expected you to auto assume I hit you with 50kp instead of voting Risen. Frankly. I have no idea why you have 25kp dmg, all i know is that I was not he source of it. | ||
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On December 16 2013 02:53 Oatsmaster wrote: wrong = lynch town. Why are you so convinced that there is one scum left. Could be one scum and a 3rd party, or two scum. What convinces you so thoroughly that we have one scum left to lynch. | ||
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On December 16 2013 03:06 Koshi wrote: There is 3 scum left. 5 player lol team That makes sense. Possibly one of them is 3p | ||
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On December 16 2013 05:02 supersoft wrote: okay. I have 2 more exams on monday/tuesday. I think a risenlynch is necessary today. And I will melt down JayB. I count on your help there, Jat. And after that I will think about who is the last scummer. + Show Spoiler + On December 07 2013 12:01 Mid or Feed wrote: Vote count: supersoft (0): Rean (0): JonnyLaw (0): austinmcc (9): Rean, OdinOfPergo (1): Onegu Koshi (0): kushm4sta (0): ticklishmusic (0): jcarlsoniv (2): Chezinu (0): Meapak_Zipph (8): austinmcc, Mocsta, Roffles (6): Oatsmaster, Roffles, Risen (0): VisceraEyes (0): Mig (0): LSB (0): Modkill zone (1): OdinOfPergo, austinmcc is lynched. Voting thread is here. Please make sure all of your votes go in there, they don't count otherwise. Voting is mandatory. Day 2 ends in this saving attempt of Jay and Risen makes perfect sense to me. So go 4 it. Also Risen/JayB are scummy as hell G_G Except it doesn't as Mafia I ALWAYS bus my teammates. I never defend scum buddies it stupid as fuck to do that as mafia. I have however been mistaken on people I have thought are town. Like how I defended VE in Hero Mini Mafia Link Again I never defend scum buddies as mafia I always bus them. | ||
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On December 16 2013 05:29 Risen wrote: Oh man we lose if it's two mislynches in a row I hope you're scum jayb. I'm not scum. So if you really are town, go after your scum reads and stop martyring. | ||
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On December 16 2013 05:32 Risen wrote: This is the second time in a row now I've told town not to waste a day and the second time you've all wasted it. Horrible. Sure, I'm bad, but I own it. You all actually think you can play this game and that's sad. Did you miss my posts about me being Best Mislynch NA Not everyone is a stellar scum hunter and obv townie in the game. I know sometimes it sucks to be accused of scum cause you play the game differently. But don't martyr your self please. | ||
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On December 16 2013 05:44 Risen wrote: I'd also like to point out that you're voting for me jayb so why are you talking to me like you know I'm town... I'm talking to you, cause I don't want you to just shut down and go afk. If you do that then there is no more information your giving town. I don't know if your scum or town it's very hard to decipher cause you lie about things, don't take good advice from townies like shielding Mig and in general make things difficult this post. for instance. On December 14 2013 00:52 Risen wrote: Yeah mig if you're town you gotta use your one shot. I may have been lying about whether I'd use the lantern or not as well... tehe I don't know your alignment Risen, but I'm hoping your scum considering how anti-town you been playing. | ||
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On December 16 2013 06:55 kushm4sta wrote: jayjunglage, shhh i dont like sentences like this Ugh I don't know dude I think its like 50/50 if risen is scum or town. I am hesitant to defend him cause i was wrong about MZ. | ||
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On December 16 2013 03:34 Koshi wrote: Risen scum jayB scum Sandroba scum My best guesses. Hm Risen Mocsta For the last one I think its someone not suspected much so far so probably SS/Rayn | ||
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On December 16 2013 09:41 Koshi wrote: jayB, supersoft claims to be killing you. Why are you not upset? I dont get this. How many times did he hit you? I got hit by 100 kp last night. So SS would have to hit more for ten more nights to kill me. Not so much worried about him. I more worried about being mislynched. SS could very well be scum. His play is very different from what i have seen of Town SS before. | ||
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On December 16 2013 08:27 Koshi wrote: What do you think of Sandroba and Kushmaster? I don't know much about Sandroba's scum game. I asked about it and was told that he would be terrible and everyone would know so I just left it at that. Kush I have had some back and forth on. ATM I think hes town. But hes hard to read because of his play style. I don't see scum motives behind his play tho. | ||
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On December 16 2013 10:01 sandroba wrote: Okay, I just went through the voting on day 2 and noticed this: Risen unvoted MZ and moved onto austin to tip the scales to austin lynch, gave a very lousy justification and even made apparent that he thought mz was scum, but still didnt move his vote. At the time mz was leading and set to be lynched, but geript saved him later. That is a pretty good indicator that he is scum, trying to save his teamate, but leaving a save face comment when he thought he was gone. I'm gonna move my vote to risen because this is pretty incriminating and I don't have the strengh to read any more of this thread today after driving 500km. Mocsta voting patern is pretty nice and I haven't the time to think about him properly yet. Also that fiddles pick gives him some townie points I suppose, since it seems more useful for town than mafia. JayB may still be scum but I'm gonna put my chips on Risen for today. Sandroba I refuse to let you lynch me. I have given my defenses go read them. | ||
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On December 16 2013 10:04 sandroba wrote: Also you guys are retarded to think I would order a mass kill on JL for free with as much towncred that I had if I were scum. I was just away and my activity shall pick up tomorrow. Well from what I heard your terrible at scum. So you never know LOL. (I don't think your scum tho) | ||
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On December 16 2013 11:09 Mocsta wrote: Is this even a question? And if by some chance it is, but are you aiming to achieve with this phrasing. Further, I have never shied away discussing this item. The answer s are in my filter. Have you actually bothered to look? It's ironic that in a post you quoted me, I even explained why it's stupid to think I am a caster vt. It was a question, granted with out the question mark. The phasing is irrelevant I just want the answer. Your filter is 20 pages I would prefer if you just told me. | ||
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I also am a tank minion sadly. Nothing fancy just more HP so i can deal with jerks like SS T_T So after we kill Mocsta. Who do you think the next scum is. Oats maybe? | ||
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We just simply didn't know that banning phase and draft numbers phase same time. Skimming OP not so good T_T Also I think I know why I am better as scum then town. For town you have to actively go back and read filters. As scum you have all the information so you can just make up shit as you go. (random thought) | ||
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On December 17 2013 04:59 sandroba wrote: @jat I dont. I'm just looking at who I think is definitely town and you are not on that level for me. I don't even know if there is 7 scum, I just think it makes sense due to the flips. No worries though, I don't think you are scum, I just had to filter you to make sure, same as SS. If there is scum left after jayb it's prob oats. Sandroba talk to me why you think I'm scum. I don't mind defending my self to prove that im town. But i can't do it if you don't give me information. I suppose we can wait after Mocsta flips. But its bugging me. | ||
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On December 17 2013 05:00 justanothertownie wrote: I have no idea who would be definitely down over me in this game. Seriously. Whatever doesn't matter. Lol JAT's townie ego just got dealt a brutal blow by sandroba | ||
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On December 17 2013 05:03 justanothertownie wrote: My ego is fine don't you worry. It is rather a question of logic because I don't follow Sandro here at all. I would like to know who is definitely town for him then. Using the process of elimination. Koshi, Jcarl, Rayn, Kush | ||
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On December 18 2013 04:11 sandroba wrote: @koshi you quoted it yourself. Mocsta claimed VT with 1k hp. Odin asked if he wether he was caster or tank and he replied "I don't know anything about lol. Sorry. I was a marksman whatever that means". Yea this is the original reason that I wanted to vote Mocsta. He lies about shit and it doesn't make sense. Marksmen would refer to an Attack Damage Carry. There is no where in the Tank PM that says anything about an Marksmen. He just made some bullshit up or said what his scum team told him to say. He said he has 1k hp then that hes a marksmen then that hes a tank with 1150 Hp. | ||
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On December 18 2013 05:13 justanothertownie wrote: Wait wait wait. This whole marksman thing... are you sure this is about his champion and not about his character? What reason would he have to tell us about a marksman if there isn't any? Well this is the PM for Tank Minion. No mention of Marksmen (ADC) You have been assigned the Tank Minion! You chose.....poorly. Your role is still important in any game of League of Legends however---your job is to sacrifice yourself to deal minimal damage to towers and provide much needed gold for champions to buy items! Oh well....at least you have your vote! You have 1150 HP. However looking at the dead peoples PM's they do talk about the player you got and talk about what the player is famous for The ADC for SKT (The winners of the world championship and the people we are facing as the "challengers") is someone named Piglet. In the flavor of the players we get it could very well talk about Piglet being a marksmen for the team of SKT. Tell me if you have any questions I know this can be confusing for people that don't play league. Here is the flavor for the Mid laner of SKT Faker. Seeing how it says his position of "Mid Lane" It would also make sense if they mentioned Piglets role of "Marksmen" Welcome to LEAGUE OF LEGENDS PYP MAFIA! You are Mafia! You are Faker! As the mid laner for SK Telecom T1, it's your job to put your teammate on your back and hoist them to the enemy nexus, no matter the means required! Renowned for your Zed and Orianna play, the world has come to regard you as the best of the best, although some have come to resent you. Truly, it is up to you to drive this hype train to victory! | ||
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On December 18 2013 05:13 justanothertownie wrote: Wait wait wait. This whole marksman thing... are you sure this is about his champion and not about his character? What reason would he have to tell us about a marksman if there isn't any? Well this is the PM for Tank Minion. No mention of Marksmen (ADC) You have been assigned the Tank Minion! You chose.....poorly. Your role is still important in any game of League of Legends however---your job is to sacrifice yourself to deal minimal damage to towers and provide much needed gold for champions to buy items! Oh well....at least you have your vote! You have 1150 HP. However looking at the dead peoples PM's they do talk about the player you got and talk about what the player is famous for The ADC for SKT (The winners of the world championship and the people we are facing as the "challengers") is someone named Piglet. In the flavor of the players we get it could very well talk about Piglet being a marksmen for the team of SKT. Tell me if you have any questions I know this can be confusing for people that don't play league. Here is the flavor for the Mid laner of SKT Faker. Seeing how it says his position of "Mid Lane" It would also make sense if they mentioned Piglets role of "Marksmen" Welcome to LEAGUE OF LEGENDS PYP MAFIA! You are Mafia! You are Faker! As the mid laner for SK Telecom T1, it's your job to put your teammate on your back and hoist them to the enemy nexus, no matter the means required! Renowned for your Zed and Orianna play, the world has come to regard you as the best of the best, although some have come to resent you. Truly, it is up to you to drive this hype train to victory! | ||
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On December 18 2013 05:26 justanothertownie wrote: And why the hell wouldn't there be a marksman in any of the other teams? There very well could be. However seeing as we haven't killed off the scum marksman it fits well. Also I don't believe he has claimed his player. At this point we should get everyone to claim there player. Incase if scum doesn't have fake claims which i doubt then we maybe able to catch one in a web. | ||
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On December 18 2013 05:29 justanothertownie wrote: If they are given fakeclaims this achieves nothing at all. True but if they aren't given fake claims then we can maybe catch someone. | ||
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On December 18 2013 05:33 jcarlsoniv wrote: This is honestly such an insignificant "slip" that people keep harping on. I completely believe that 1k could easily have been a quick abbreviation for 1.15k (cuz, as said, that's awkward as fuck to type). This is such a cop out. He could of wrote 1150 simple as fuck to write. | ||
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On December 18 2013 05:34 justanothertownie wrote: I don't think this is that good of an idea unless we are absolutely sure that all claimed VTs actually ARE VTs and even then one of the second abilities of a known champion could use character names. No the Player (the Human playing them) we received and the Champion (the common term for the character) are completely different. They share no relevance to each other. You could of got a Player that is Mid lane for instance. But you can pick any champion you wanted. | ||
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On December 18 2013 05:36 justanothertownie wrote: The last post was directed at jay obviously. The question is: why would he tell us the wrong role in the first place? If he claimed caster minion right away there wouldn't even be a problem explaining the dmg. It was high risk for MZ to make up some bull shit about his ability but he did it. 50 extra KP is 50 extra KP that town has no control over. It maybe not be the smartest move from the risk reward standpoint. But it is an advantage if they can get away with it, granted a small one. | ||
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On December 18 2013 05:38 justanothertownie wrote: No shit, sherlock. There was some role which could do things to people by correctly guessing champion and player name though. This was the role you were talking about. It was Warwick who is dead by the way. I'm pretty sure they are talking about the name of the champion and the forum name when they talk about player. You have chosen Warwick, the Blood Hunter! Blood Scent - It's only fun....if they run. If anyone within 2 spots of yourself on the signup list is at 50% HP or under, their HP is revealed to you instantly. Infinite Duress - At night, you may submit the name and champion name of a player. If you guess correctly, that player takes 400 KP, or if they are under 50% health, they are killed. If you guess wrong your target is informed that you visited them last phase. May not be used on consecutive nights. You have 950 HP. | ||
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On December 18 2013 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have claimed it at the beginning of the game and do you think i am scum? Claim it again then. I don't think your scum atm. But if we get a compilation of names then the scummers will have trouble getting a fake claim. Ideally I would prefer to get people who I think are scum to claim first. So then any double names we could lynch the scummy guy. But meh we can't get things always ideal. | ||
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On December 18 2013 06:01 jcarlsoniv wrote: I'm holding off until you have more of a composed list (if you actually get it). If the purpose is to catch scum in fake claims, then the scummiest players should claim first. @sandro, my thoughts on Mocsta's life claim isn't a cop out at all. However, the 25 damage that rayn has taken from taunting Moc (or at least, at the same time as taunting Moc) is more of a solid point to use. Rayn - sorry if this has already been covered, but I may have missed it. Just for clarification purposes: you were not able to use your taunt last phase, right? You took exactly 900 damage? So it would suggest that you didn't take 875 + 25 (which would possibly be odd), but just took 900 to the face? I don't think they would separate out the damage based on where it came from. Hell it might be 50+250 plus 500 Also it would be 50 damage from Mocsta. It only gets reduced if he got taunted by Rayn. | ||
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On December 18 2013 06:15 justanothertownie wrote: This cannot be explained by Mocsta lying guys: He taunted Mocsta first i believe, correct. If that's the case then mafia would want to hide Mocsta getting caught out. And throw 25 Kp on him regardless of who he taunted to fuck with him and take away any credence that the taunt on mocsta had. | ||
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On December 18 2013 06:43 sandroba wrote: sigh it's hard to talk to you. At N1 and N2 mocsta had not claimed which type of VT he was. He has no reason to do so as mafia unless pressed about it. He was asked about it by odin and dismissed the question saying something about marksman. Now why would he shoot some lurkers with his 50kp? That would be hard to justify as town mocsta since he was saying JL and MZ were scum and they didn't take any extra damage as you can see in the ambulance radio. How can he justify have shot someone else? He can't, so when 50kp got taunted off him when he was finally pressed about which type of VT he was he changes his claim to tank minion who has no KP (since again, he cant justify not shooting MZ or JL). But wait, tank minion actually has 1.15k hp as opposed to what mocsta claimed 1k hp. No problem he just says he has 1.15k and said 1k because it was too damn long to type. On December 18 2013 06:46 sandroba wrote: Mafia likely has xxxx factional kp. Mocsta wasting it on lurkers which mafia has no desire to kill acomplishes nothing and doesn't buy mocsta any town cred. The best course of action is to not say you have kp at all and contribute your kp to mafia objectives. | ||
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On December 18 2013 06:51 justanothertownie wrote: I wonder why. You are just +1ing Sandro all the time like you stated yourself. Not true I added my points about how Mocsta being Marksmen and Piglet was an ADC on SKT coinciding was suspicious while not being compelling evidence for him being scum it is another bit of information against him. Also I find his lying about his HP more suspicious then your give it credit for. Also saying plus +1 is fun :D and im not getting lynched which is nice :D | ||
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On December 18 2013 12:20 Mocsta wrote: Guys. Please use ya head and not just wait fir sandroba to ignore everything. Rayne taunt damage is most likely the byproduct of 3 nks that night with very little kp left over so they popped it there. If I was trying to fake claim caster with the dmg I took. I could have easily done it night 1. This is MYLO. Jayb is definitely the best lynch for today. Hands down. Why do you say that. | ||
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On December 18 2013 13:07 Mocsta wrote: Because u make sense to me as scum with any combination of players. This scum team already has 4 hardcore lurkers flipped and it's obvious from day dot that scum have let the actives fight each other. But.. This is nothing I haven't been saying for a couple days straight now. I make sense to you as scum. Quite the case you got there. But then again same bullshit that everyone else says. | ||
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@Mocsta Comon at least pretend you read my filter. On December 18 2013 14:25 Mocsta wrote: Jayb I find it uncomprehendable for a townie to only have 2 points of discussion in a 380page thread. 1. Marv has a scary scum game 2. Mocsta is scum be a use of hp claims This is beyond bad town and is far beyond what you outputted in nomination mafia. As I said, every plausible com inaction of scum this game includes you. Thus you ARE the best lynch in MYLO | ||
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On December 19 2013 07:56 justanothertownie wrote: You are right. He missed the part where you hardcore defended MZ. Apart from that his post is quite accurate. Mocsta isn't even trying anymore - he will die today. I am out. Damn right I hardcore defended MZ. I thought he was town and I did my best job to stop the lynch. However there's MORE! I also wrote a case on VE, Was suspicious of SS for a while, Pressured Rean, Pushed Austin, Thought Grtsrs was scum, Pushed LSB, Pushed Mocsta for lying about HP, aaaand sheeped sandroba a bit | ||
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On December 19 2013 08:06 Mocsta wrote: why would I bojther trying jat anymore. I spent hours responding to everything yesterday to be duly ignored. I'm not even a caster. I'm really a move creep. and that is no joke. I never wanted to claim it at the start cos it sounded powerful. when I got shot I said I had higher HP so scum would be less inclined yto keep shooting me. but whatevz, now the treuth is out of course I need to be lynched now. I understand that. but realise, u will all look stupid cos I definitely am not a caster How about you don't lie as town in a mafia game. Its risky at best and will get you lynched at worse. But then again I tinks your scum so lie away | ||
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I was kinda worried at the end. People who keep posting till the end make me thing they are town. But I learned to stick to my guns. Like this post made me wonder. Regardless we got him great job sandroba and townies. On December 19 2013 10:38 Mocsta wrote: No he's not He's been pushing me like u. Lynch oats next is my guess | ||
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On December 19 2013 12:15 kushm4sta wrote: next jbrundy dies definitely And why's that? Do you think I was bussing Mocsta? | ||
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On December 19 2013 10:56 Mocsta wrote: (1) <b>SS,</b> Bus me already ffs, you can't save me <b>Kush, </b> If sandroba picks on you tomorrow just tell him to fuck off, maybe add some WIFOM how you are changing up your meta. Realistically you've been bussing me pretty good so I doubt it will go there anyways. (2) <B>Stick with the plan</b> *PUSH* the lynch onto JayB first. Everyone is suspicious of him and it should be easy to sell him as bussing me once Mig sniffed me. Backup plan if JAT kills JayB is Oats. Just use Rayn story about multiple scum picking the same numbers + his hard defense of MZ. (3) For the NKs tonight <b>Stick with the plan</b> Keep whittling them down for the blitzkrieg BUT...I'm thinking jcarl is going to fake the lantern and box himself so don't bother there - unless he gives you the lantern again SS. Then kill him. Koshi and Rayn have some dmg but we dunno the heal. I reckon 500kp to Rayn should seal the deal. With the remaining KP I reckon split it onto Koshi + Sandroba. Sorry guys I couldnt fight the lynch. Good luck and <b>Stick with the plan !!</b> | ||
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On December 19 2013 12:49 sandroba wrote: Btw kush is one of the last scum. I'm still trying to figure out the other. Hm really if that's the case then SS and Kush. Mocsta tried to out WIFOM us but I think he just told us his two partners. Unless he said one and didn't say the other which would seem odd to me. What makes you think its kush? | ||
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On December 19 2013 12:50 kushm4sta wrote: nah i totes think you were busing. why wouldn't you?? besides you are scummy for other reasons as im sure other people have pointed out. By other reasons you mean..... What exactly? | ||
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On December 19 2013 13:08 sandroba wrote: Read the entire game, constant aking for modkill of townies, doing nothing useful, saying everyone is town even when the person pretty much claimed scum in thread to keep up consistency, that buss post that has 3 unflipped mafia on it when kush has town reads on pretty much everyone, etc. Now read this last day and you see kush went on criticizing the mocsta lynch until pressure, they were waiting to see if people would switch so kush could say "w/e mocsta townie". SS prob not the last scum. Welp I'm glad you switched the candidate from me at least lol. I could get behind a kush lynch (Sandroba sheeping time!) Although I think Oats might be more suspicious. What do you think about Oats Sandroba? | ||
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onlywonderboy kushm4sta raynpelikoneet Oatsmaster supersoft jaybrundage Koshi justanothertownie sandroba The underlined are the possible scum candidates. Supersoft has been playing much differently then I have played with him as town. Much more lurky not as assertive. His posts don't stand out as town he can be wrong on a read but he is so forward and a aggressive that he makes his thoughts known. He hasn't come off like that this game. Oats hasn't been much of a contributer this game. He hasn't shown me that hes town at all. He just is in the background all the time. I can't even think of his contributions of the top of my head. I haven't spent to much time looking into him. But he just never does anything I think is townie. Kush would not be on this list unless you posted your accusations on him. I have played with Kush before and I know he doesn't post much so i find it difficult to read him. However when he wanted to lynch Mocsta so bad but the entire time he's detracting from your case that was really fishy. If he thinks your case is shit but doesn't have any reasoning to add why would throw shit on yours. It doesn't make sense from a town perspective only a scum ulterior motive. Jcarl is the least strong of these reads. I haven't looked into him much. I find it odd that he hasn't died being a quasi protector for town. Pretty fishy. He doesn't make it onto my town list so here he is. Mocstas last post while made for intentional WIFOM. I think is simple. It is what it is. I think he told us who the two last scum were to throw us off his trail. Part of the reason I say that is because in the note he tried to make me appear as being a townie which I am. So he makes Kush and SS appear to be scum. Which with the same reasoning they are. So I wanna say Kush SS for last scum and Oats, Jcarl other scum candidates. On December 19 2013 10:56 Mocsta wrote: (1) <b>SS,</b> Bus me already ffs, you can't save me <b>Kush, </b> If sandroba picks on you tomorrow just tell him to fuck off, maybe add some WIFOM how you are changing up your meta. Realistically you've been bussing me pretty good so I doubt it will go there anyways. (2) <B>Stick with the plan</b> *PUSH* the lynch onto JayB first. Everyone is suspicious of him and it should be easy to sell him as bussing me once Mig sniffed me. Backup plan if JAT kills JayB is Oats. Just use Rayn story about multiple scum picking the same numbers + his hard defense of MZ. (3) For the NKs tonight <b>Stick with the plan</b> Keep whittling them down for the blitzkrieg BUT...I'm thinking jcarl is going to fake the lantern and box himself so don't bother there - unless he gives you the lantern again SS. Then kill him. Koshi and Rayn have some dmg but we dunno the heal. I reckon 500kp to Rayn should seal the deal. With the remaining KP I reckon split it onto Koshi + Sandroba. Sorry guys I couldnt fight the lynch. Good luck and <b>Stick with the plan !!</b> | ||
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On December 19 2013 15:44 kushm4sta wrote: sandypants lost his touch lolol BTW I was always 100% for the mocsta lynch. Like 100 million batraillion percent for the mocsta lynch. there was never 1 millisecond that I doubted he was scum. I was basically shitting on your arguments because invalid arguments for something I believe in annoys me. jbrundage is loving this shit btw. Look at that long ass post your retarded suspicion inspired him to write. Hey what can i say I just love + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/DMMFNMi.jpg) @Sandroba You never responded to the stuff i wrote up. Do you agree with the candidates? Do you wanna lynch Kush tomorrow? What makes you think SS isn't scum? What's your stance on Jcarl? | ||
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Do we agree to lynch kush this coming day? Does anyone have candidates that they would rather lynch tomorrow? Does anyone have someone they think is scum, and a case to go with it preferably? What's your favorite color? These are important issues guys. Let's address them. | ||
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On December 20 2013 04:25 jcarlsoniv wrote: i'm taking peoples' word that kush does super busses you or oats you - stop pretending to scum hunt, it's not fooling anyone green Hm that doesn't make much sense. Regardless of my alignment you would want me to post more. So I would be easier to read. Jcarl have you considered that I'm town cause you know... I am. If you want to lynch me please make a case on me. I would love to tear it apart limb from limb. It's understandable that you want to lynch me. I am after all Best Mislynch NA. However I would prefer not to be lynched cause i like winning. @Oats What's your thoughts on Kush being scum? Who do you think could be a second scum, or what two make up the scum team if you disagree on Kush being scum? | ||
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On December 20 2013 04:41 jcarlsoniv wrote: I'm personally working under the assumption that there were 7 scum total. This opinion has been augmented by the fact that both the coach and MonteCristo (a caster with a hard on for SKT) have flipped. I believe this has been accepted by most of the thread community at this point. @JayB - I'm fine with you posting, but I've seen nothing since I tried to lantern kill you that makes me think you're any less scum. I'm also not putting any work in this phase. So do you think I bussed Mocsta? | ||
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On December 20 2013 05:00 jcarlsoniv wrote: and I don't care that you made a post saying "I don't bus teammates" it means literally nothing when people say things like that Your confusing me with someone else, Mocsta I believe. I said I don't defend scum teammates. I bus the hell out of them. That's why me defending MZ would be so out of character with my scum play. I don't see any good reason to do that as scum cause you easily fall under suspicion after your scum buddy dies later on. I made a post about how me defending MZ wasn't a scummy thing for me to do but rather a towntell here. Jay's Defense after MZ lynch I defended VE hard in Hero Mini Mafia. He was scum I was town. I thought he was town tho so I defended him hard. I would never defend a scum buddy like this because its foolish and leads to people suspecting you after the lynch. | ||
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On December 20 2013 05:18 supersoft wrote: omg. i got extremely sick last night. perfect: finally did all my exams and now sick. Hey its better then getting very sick and THEN having to take exams. | ||
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On December 20 2013 05:26 jcarlsoniv wrote: you're right, I misremembered this post: Even better, puts my conscience at ease. The thing is - if you are aware enough of your play tendencies to confidently make a post saying things like "I don't defend scum teammates", then you are aware enough to fabricate your actions to fit what you want. So, as I said, it means absolutely nothing when you make posts like that. I agree with you on the fact that if i know my tendencies I can use them to my advantage. However it's one thing to lightly defend a scum buddy and another to balls to the wall, all out, hardcore, Red Pot opening defend them if you know what I mean. As its night aren't you a bit worried about dying and should get your reads out there? What's your thoughts about Oats? | ||
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On December 20 2013 05:30 supersoft wrote: what survey... i read that you want to kill me. i am quite happy about this, because I am quite sure, that you're scum. And scum won't shoot their potential lynch target right now. :-) but I just came here to throw you my card in your face. My throat hurts. I am more concerned that I won't make the night in RL, than in this game o_o You didn't do my survey Also can you stop throwing cards at me your making it easier for scum to kill me. Throw one on Oats. See if you can block some KP as I am a tank as you found out when you ulted. I actually have a question about that you said you verified that I'm a tank. However how were you able to find that out when I used lantern that phase. | ||
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On December 20 2013 05:36 jcarlsoniv wrote: his ult revealed anyone who was untargetable, which is the condition (afaik) that you fall under when you take my lantern also...should I be concerned about dying tonight? I'm not really that concerned about "getting my reads out" You keep talking about how you were surprised you were not dead yet. You have a role that is quasi protection. It also gives a bit of WIFOM for scum if you are actually town. If they wanted to target Sandroba for instance they wouldn't be sure if you had given lantern and maybe they should be targeting you instead. If I were mafia I would want you out the game so I could get a possible 2 for 1 and not have to worry if anyone I targeted grabbed lantern. | ||
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On December 20 2013 05:39 supersoft wrote: I got two PMs that day: in the first i recieved Oatsmasters role, meele minion. My gold card and my current HP amount. A few minutes after that the hosts sent me another PM with your role in it, saying sorry, game complicated. So I guess I got your role regardless of the lantern. Ok so what do you think of Oats? If you believe I'm scum who is my partner? | ||
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On December 20 2013 06:54 kushm4sta wrote: i was known for busing but I dont really do that anymore. Also maybe someone should actually read my filter more towards the beginning when I still gave a fuck. Originally I thought mocsta was town but I changed my mind after seeing a prime example of shit logic that he used (which is mocsta's true scumtell). You can see the development of my scumread on him was completely organic. Are there any decisions or suspicions you would like me to explain? Because I can provide you with 100% townie thought process for ANYTHING. Sure how about you write a case one me. Say who your second scum read is. Talk about Mocsta's last WIFOM post. | ||
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On December 20 2013 09:39 kushm4sta wrote: So there are 2 scum left and not one? Are you sure about that? No idea who the last one would be because I haven't looked into it. Probably jat just off the top of my head. I guess sandy is clear because of effort? Jb I might make a case on you tonight. I just feel like there are probably cases that have already been made against you that are better than what I would do. I have not read mocstas wifom. I'm curious why do you want me to talk about something which was obviously written as wifom? The purpose of the post was that discussion of it would lead town astray, yet you want me to discuss it? This endgame burst of activity from you is not fooling me jb, but I gotta applaud your effort. On December 20 2013 09:40 kushm4sta wrote: And ss clear because of some mechanics reason? Why are you making statements and follow it with a question mark. Are you so uncertain with your thoughts that you need someone else to validate them. Or is it that when someone remarks on these statements you can go back and say they weren't statements just inquires. Do you think Sandroba is scum? The only real case made on me was LSB's case and it was terrible. So please make a case, make my day. I have read Mocsta's WIFOM. While I do realize that it was made with the intent to deceive I don't think it was done well. Granted it is WIFOM but I think it is informative WIFOM. Vets will probably call me out for even considering it as something to be considered but I think it is rather revealing. I'll give the TL:DR version tho. It says you and SS are scum and I'm town. Why do you say SS is clear, because of mechanics? Why do you say this? Why do you think SS is town. What makes you say that. What mechanics are you referring to? | ||
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##Vote Kushm4sta On December 20 2013 13:15 kushm4sta wrote: sandroba thinking im scum because I was right about a bunch of people... that is just profoundly dumb. If it is metabased, my bus meta is very outdated. | ||
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On December 20 2013 17:20 Koshi wrote: Good question. It's not that all the remaining players are lurkers. So I was kinda 17 minutes too late to post my stuff yesterday. Waking up is hard if you only went 1h30 before that to bed. Anyway, without other people getting damage it might look like I totally WIFOM'ed scummers. Would you care to extrapolate? | ||
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On December 21 2013 05:32 justanothertownie wrote: Maybe Mocsta just told us the truth after all ^^ Called it | ||
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On December 21 2013 06:25 jcarlsoniv wrote: easy to know the truth when you know the scum team So do you realize your tunneling me or are you oblivious. | ||
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On December 21 2013 06:48 jcarlsoniv wrote: Asmo #1 Well, I'm certainly not oblivious. Please write a case on me, as I have asked everyone else. When I play town with people that haven't played with me before they wanna lynch me. Prome read me asap as town because he knows my playstyle. If you give me a case I can show you why it's wrong and doesn't apply to me. Your generic this is town that's scum doesn't work on me. Grant me to opportunity to show you why your misguided. | ||
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Can Inventor give items to themselves? That just seems odd. If your telling the truth then lets lynch SS then. So you don't get any result tho its just asking them if they were healed. Do we know if you were roleblocked? | ||
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Question Koshi when did you get suspicious of supersoft. I don't think you mentioned him before this. I know I shouldn't do this, but I'm so pleased my early read of Supersoft was correct ##Vote SuperSoft | ||
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So kush after we kill SS. We lynch you next kay? I wanna make a reference to you telling me to concede but i can't D: | ||
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On December 21 2013 23:40 justanothertownie wrote: Yep, I think you are the best lynch after SS. Jat comes around. THE CROWD GOES WILD! | ||
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On December 21 2013 23:47 justanothertownie wrote: Jay, I still have my shot... just saying. And you would wanna just it on a townie why? | ||
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On December 22 2013 00:03 justanothertownie wrote: Why not? The probability that you are scum is slightly above 0 %. We lynch Kush and the game should be over. If it's not we lynch oats and shoot you/lynch you if oats and kush are town by some miracle. BTW you wanted to dismiss Mocsta's WIFOM. But in this case I was right on the money. He just gave us his last two scum members simple as that. Sometimes people use mafia "rules of thumb" (like if a scum says stuff like that to not even consider it) But sometimes it's better to think about it. | ||
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On December 22 2013 00:53 sandroba wrote: prob kill oats after ss. he deserves it more than kush imo. if not oats -> kush -> jayb. Aw Sandroba! I'm the last to lynch on your list. That's practically confirmed town <3 | ||
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On December 22 2013 01:15 supersoft wrote: rofl. Have some respect for my scumplay you retards. You'd never have catched me without this imbaItem. lol how many mislynches do you think you can afford? 1000? hahaha, it's lylo, my friend :D I found you night one. Granted I couldn't convince town to kill you. | ||
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On December 22 2013 04:12 supersoft wrote: somehow? i played so good. I always die n1 or n2. I perfectly balanced my skill on the edge of getting lynched and shot. Only this crazy-ass item screwed me. Yea, ya know, or your just scum. | ||
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On December 22 2013 08:15 kushm4sta wrote: jb has the most unnatural exchanges with ss jb is the person ss mentioned the least By unnatural are you talking about when I called him scum? BTW you guys are hilarious. | ||
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On December 22 2013 10:58 Koshi wrote: Ugh I should go to bed but I want to see flip. It's scum. FYI | ||
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On December 22 2013 12:36 Koshi wrote: Oats = 3 scummers picked 1. But really... Looks like his Nuclear game in which he also cba in later cycles. Kush = Mocsta named both scummers. Sandroba = bussed 2 scummers for no reason at all. jayB = target for scummers. Mocsta voted him, supersoft shot him. Weakest mafia member scum used for towncredit? JAT = Plays town. Shot Risen, Holyflare and somebody I don't remember. But plays so town. so so town. BUT who's still alive SUCKAAAA | ||
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On December 22 2013 18:57 Oatsmaster wrote: lol gg kush and Jayb. WE GOT YOU! Explain we can't assume this game is over. | ||
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On December 22 2013 20:14 kushm4sta wrote: oats you would surrender if it was you, right? What is the purpose of this post? | ||
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On December 22 2013 21:16 justanothertownie wrote: Yeah, because there is an infinite amount of scum in this game... How about this: you give us your best read and not two and you also give us a detailed reasoning for it. Can you do this? Yo YO Yo yo YO JAT what if .... .Like we were all scum.... | ||
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On December 23 2013 05:46 Koshi wrote: meh 24h is fine for me. But instant majority not really. My last reads: Sandroba (sure town because the mocsta lynch, with 3 scummers (Mocsta, sandroba and supersoft) there was literally 0 need to bus. JAT Is townie but Sandroba is more townie. But JAT gets town best player award in my eyes. Good posts through game. Kushmaster The certainty he presented while he gave his reads is the only reason why he is scummy. Also he is a bit of a player that puts himself in the picture. Bold scumplay. Very bold scumplay. Oats Typical Oats day 1 and day 2, but after couldn't be bothered to play the game. Very much looks like scumOats. But with Mocsta, supersoft as teammates I would think he would do more. Things that speak in his favor are the 1 pick and supersoft filter. jayB active through the game, which I respect, but not really anything super productive came out of him. Is there one incident that we remember? I don't remember anything except all scummers wanting to kill jayB. jayB is the last scummer for me. Oats could be, Kush could be. Me and VE wanted to lynch SS day 2 i believe. But none wanted to follow. | ||
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On December 23 2013 05:41 sandroba wrote: @jay did ss card you yesterday? I got hit four times with 100 KP. I guess so? The PM's were confusing sometimes. | ||
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On December 23 2013 07:52 sandroba wrote: I mean yesterday after SS died. Cuz I'm assuming what finished off JC was a SS' card, but if you got hit it at the end of the last day cycle couldn't be that. The last time I was hit by 100 KP was at 12/20 11ish Military time. I hope that isn't to revealing, I know mods don't like you trying to break the game via pms. | ||
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On December 23 2013 08:20 justanothertownie wrote: I was just wondering why you would ask Sandro the exact same question I just did... anyways I think his answer was not sufficient. This is not the time to lynch oats because kush has been more active recently - oats has been totally absent lategame as town before. I want better reasons. Picking 1/1 is maybe not a point in his favor but I also doubt you can use it against him. Oh I skimmed your posts didn't see what you had said. Also I'm not sure about us switching the lynch onto Oats. I haven't looked into him much. I just think Mocsta gave us the remaining scum. However if not Kush then -> Oats. We can be wrong once correct? | ||
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On December 23 2013 08:22 Koshi wrote: Last repeat. Now with certainty. The guy that got my item (see how the item is named) Can do X damage to a person as instant dayvig. Where X is the number of HP he is willing to sacrifice. This means that the recipient SHOULD BE FORCED BY THE THREAD to kill himself and take out another scumread out of jayB/Kush/Oats. If the recipient does not die, he should be LYNCHED, The recipient should always be able to take out one of the other 2 names unless scum hit him with the biggest chunk of their night KP and then we will be all alive tomorrow anyway. Make sure you let the recipient of my item DIES, I triple checked it with the hosts, he has that option. yay for town! PS: Sandroba can save us all anyway. PSII: I will not wake up 0255AM so I will just spoil everything now. This is a really dumb idea. Hm I reading thru this trying to figure out if i hate it or not.... Let's run this thru some scenarios. A. Scum get the gun. Shoot a townie with it. Hurts them selves but not enough to die. Tries to convince town not to lynch him cause he's "town" and wants to win. A. Town get's the gun shoots someone. Doesn't die cause they are town and don't want a townie to die and reduce the chance of them winning. And tried to argue there way out of it. Iunno it just seems shifty. Can't you just make a normal day vig gun with out the negative side effects. | ||
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On December 23 2013 09:23 kushm4sta wrote: LOL i tried to fakeclaim scum here to get a reaction but no one realized i was doing it No one cared | ||
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On December 23 2013 09:29 kushm4sta wrote: melee minmion No your player flavor name. We both know you know what im talking about. This bolded part it's right next to where it says your support for SK Telecom T1 Coagulation as Impact, playing Ziggs, has been lynched Day 3! Welcome to LEAGUE OF LEGENDS PYP MAFIA! You are Mafia! You are Impact! As the top laner for SK Telecom T1, it's your job to ruin Dyrus' day. Poor dude. Aside from making Dyrus cry, your greatest strength is in your versatility, playing tanks such as Renekton and absorbing blows for your carries, as well as smashing down turrets as Jax. Now go and make an IMPACTin this game! Communicate with your teammates in this quicktopic: ?????????????? You have chosen Ziggs, the Hexplosives expert! Bouncing Bomb - Ziggs has tons of crazy explosives in his arsenal, but they don't always act how he wants them to. Each night you may deal 250 KP to target player. The bomb then bounces off of that player onto another random player and does 50 KP. Mega Inferno Bomb - Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out! Once per game you can launch a massive nuke at target player. At the end of the phase, it will deal 400 KP to that player, 200 KP to those next to him on the signup list and then 100 KP to the two players next to those. Can be used during the day or at night, however the nuke must be launched at least 12 hours before phase end. The nuke will be announced in thread. | ||
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On December 23 2013 09:41 kushm4sta wrote: im melee minion... there's nothing else No look at every PM of dead people. There is always a Pro player name. Like really? | ||
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bumatlarge, as LoveLin, playing the Tank Minion, has been lynched Day 1! + Show Spoiler + Kurumi, as Westdoor, playing Warwick, has been modkilled Night 1. + Show Spoiler + StorrZerg Promethelax, as Tabe, playing Kha’Zix, has been killed Night 1! + Show Spoiler + austinmcc, as GoDlike, playing the Melee Minion, has been lynched Day 2! + Show Spoiler + OdinOfPergo, as Scarra, playing the Caster Minion, has been modkilled Day 2. + Show Spoiler + geript, as Uzi, playing Twitch, has been modkilled Night 2! + Show Spoiler + Kenpachi Chezinu, as MiSTakE, playing LeBlanc, has been killed Night 2! + Show Spoiler + Coagulation as Impact, playing Ziggs, has been lynched Day 3! + Show Spoiler + Rean, as Doublelift, playing the Caster Minion, has been killed Night 3! + Show Spoiler + ticklishmusic, as Dyrus, playing Taric, has been killed Night 3! + Show Spoiler + VisceraEyes, as Misaya, playing Lux, has been killed Night 3! + Show Spoiler + marvellosity mkfuba07, as Imaqtpie, playing Fiddlesticks, has been killed Night 3! + Show Spoiler + JonnyLaw, as Coach kkOma, playing Evelynn has been shot Day 4! + Show Spoiler [role PM] + nyxnyxnyx LSB, as Inspirro, playing Tryndamere has been lynched day 4. + Show Spoiler + Meapak_Zipph, as Montecristo, playing Wukong has been lynched day 4. + Show Spoiler + gtrsrs as Cyanide playing the Tank Minion has been modkilled Night 4. + Show Spoiler + Onegu as Faker, playing Malzahar has been modkilled Night 4. + Show Spoiler + Mig as Lucky, playing Cho’Gath, has been killed Night 4! + Show Spoiler + Roffles as Ambition, playing Teemo, has been modkilled Day 5. + Show Spoiler + Risen as PDD, playing Karma, has been lynched Day 5! + Show Spoiler + Mocsta as Piglet, playing the Melee Minion, has been lynched Day 6! + Show Spoiler + raynpelikoneet, as Wh1t3zZ, playing as Shen has been killed Night 6! + Show Spoiler + supersoft as Bengi, playing Twisted Fate, has been lynched Day 7. + Show Spoiler [role PM] + jcarlsoniv as MadLife, playing Thresh, has been killed Day 7! + Show Spoiler [role PM] + | ||
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jaybrundage
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On December 23 2013 09:46 sandroba wrote: ask the host to send the alignment pm to you. Welp I found the last scum | ||
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JAT use your damage to finish him off. We can end this after the night post | ||
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On December 23 2013 09:48 kushm4sta wrote: k i found it. alex_ich blrblrblrblrblr Ok good glad you got your fake role claim then. Or googled that shit. | ||
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On December 23 2013 09:44 kushm4sta wrote: i have no pro player name! On December 23 2013 09:41 kushm4sta wrote: im melee minion... there's nothing else To this suuuuuuuure On December 23 2013 09:48 kushm4sta wrote: k i found it. alex_ich blrblrblrblrblr | ||
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On December 23 2013 09:51 kushm4sta wrote: i just didn't remember i got that pm before i got the champion pm The PM's for Player Flavor and Champion (minion role) are together | ||
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Oh yes I was wrong about that. Alex_ich was a Top laner right? | ||
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On December 23 2013 09:56 kushm4sta wrote: how should I know?? the is subject replacement:re so it was hard to find It should tell you some information about the player in the PM. Can you give us something :D. | ||
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On December 23 2013 09:59 kushm4sta wrote: yeah i agree it's probably oats WHAT? You don't wanna lynch me your big scum read? | ||
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On December 23 2013 10:00 sandroba wrote: look at filter. look at behavior right now. there. I do want Oats to claim his player flavor name. But I do agree with you that its more likely oats then Kush at this point. | ||
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On December 23 2013 10:04 justanothertownie wrote: Great. Who was/is your big scumread? He doesn't have one me thinks | ||
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Jat how much do you hit for? | ||
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On December 23 2013 10:07 justanothertownie wrote: Because everyone else is town maybe? Or maybe.... Everyone is town.... TOWNCEPTION | ||
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Jat is your KP instant? | ||
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On December 23 2013 10:17 justanothertownie wrote: Did you ever read what I posted this game? Probably not. | ||
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Is your KP instant? | ||
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Also yea 24 hours would of been nice. Oats Koshi you guys still need claim your Player Flavor names. Oats please shoot Kush and kill yourself (:D) DO NOT SHOOT ME!!!!! | ||
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On December 23 2013 12:26 Oatsmaster wrote: my flavor is BULLDOZE THE INHIBITOR I sincerely hope your the joking. Cause if your not your scum. | ||
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Oats has the choice to use his dayvig gun or die with it. So Oats the choice is yours Shoot Kush and end your life, or wait 48 hours for us to lynch ya. | ||
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Oats how much HP do you have left. | ||
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Good stuff town :D | ||
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Thanks Koshi that helps alot. Sorry for lashing out on you JAT. I just got a little frustrated. Didn't get lynched this game ^_^ I been able to slide by the lynch recently as town. Although it always hangs over me T_T Can someone give me tips on how to gather people to follow my lynch. It's something I struggle with. I wanted to lynch SS day 2 but I couldn't garner town support. | ||
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On December 24 2013 04:58 WaveofShadow wrote: Picks and bans were handled pretty poorly by the scumteam and they were very uncoordinated throughout the beginning of the game. There was no synergy in their roles, a lot of powerful roles (imo) were not even considered by the scumteam, and a massclaim plan may very well have screwed them over at some point. For the record I would probably be one of those players who refuses to claim as town in a PYP. Takes a lot of the fun out of it for me, and as such there were roles and mechanics included that would punish or mostly prevent a massclaim from working perfectly. WW was a huge role for either town or scum as you guys know, but the role...*ahem* exited the game early. If people have specific questions about stuff that happened/setup stuff I can answer when I get the chance. WoS fake scum claim names weren't provided correct? So we could of potentially won by forcing a mass claim of Player flavor names. Would you of provided them to scum if we went down this route as town early on? | ||
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On December 24 2013 05:05 sandroba wrote: And a bunch of low people went for lux. That was really weird too. I really had to talk myself into believing JB's claim specially. The mass claim before picks plan would be awesome for town this game imo. But you didn't mislynch me that's what counts :D | ||
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