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On November 21 2013 10:58 Mig wrote: /in On November 21 2013 13:21 bumatlarge wrote: /in YES GTRSRS SUP MAN | ||
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On November 24 2013 04:22 marvellosity wrote: i've never understood why people think democracy is a good way to decide things. People love the fact it somehow makes dumb majority a wise majority... - that's just an insight on democracy, not the poll ![]() I'll go vote whatever is winning right now... | ||
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On November 24 2013 08:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: A true democratian ![]() *high fives* I did not realise that I made a quite cool joke by an accident. Just like people, I do not care what is picked... Don't worry, if the nationalist-communist party of Poland wins the election in two years I might high five you in Finland, who knows where I'll run away from those sickos. | ||
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How much HP does everyone have? How much damage is actually "damage"? | ||
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##Ban: Warwick | ||
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On December 01 2013 02:29 supersoft wrote: Warwick - Infinite Duress - At night, you may submit the name and champion name of a player. If you guess correctly, that player takes damage, or if they are under 50% health, they are killed. If you guess wrong your target is informed that you visited them last phase. May not be used on consecutive nights. You need to know the name of the player - look up your PM, you actually are a player - and the champion of this player... I think this char is pretty useless... Oh this way. Still, if Ashe/Quinn is picked by Mafia WW is crazy strong and they probably have more powers than we know, so. | ||
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Koshi [2][1] Kurumi [4][6] VisceraEyes [5][4] jcarlsoniv [9][3] Mig [12][1] JonnyLaw Risen [15][15] StorrZerg geript [24][24] austinmcc Meapak_Ziphh Sandroba Kenpachi[8][15] Rean [16][2] bumatlarge [16][12] BloddyC0bbler justanothertownie marvellosity gtrsrs [7][11] OdinOfPergo [7][16] Mocsta supersoft [1][30] Oatsmaster [1][1] raynpelikoneet [1][1] onlywonderboy ticklishmusic Roffles Bill Murray jaybrundage nyxnyxnyx so far, going to read the thread instead of numbers now | ||
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Why you did not want Rayn first Oats? | ||
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On December 02 2013 00:49 jaybrundage wrote: When do we pick champs and should we be open about it I have never played PYP before We pick now. No, you don't claim who you pick. We can make lists as to direct people to pick stuff, because it might help people not quite familiar with PYP. | ||
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On December 02 2013 01:12 VisceraEyes wrote: So much LoL. So much. All of my LoLs. First time I've seen you troll, just let me note that I think that's scummy as fuck because you never played like that, you always were invested as Town, to the point where you'd throw tantrums. | ||
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On December 02 2013 01:19 VisceraEyes wrote: And did those tantrums end well for town Kurumi? I'll be towns enough when it's time to be. People who did not play with you were confused, people like me were only scared about you pulling a trigger for no reason. | ||
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On December 02 2013 01:50 Oatsmaster wrote: So rayn;'s plan, claim 1/1, then dont pick 1/1 and YOU KNOW that town is gonna pick 1/1 but scum wants roles more than town so they aint gonna pick 1/1 Noone ever is going to get the same number as someone claimed unless they want to drown them somewhere deep down in the draft list. | ||
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On December 02 2013 15:18 Oatsmaster wrote: Im vt, i have power to change the list. Its cool. Geript scummy, grytssss also. What did you try to pick? That question is for all vts. | ||
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Kurumi [4][6] Big Bad Wolf VisceraEyes [5][4] Lux jcarlsoniv [9][3] Mig [12][1] Urgot? JonnyLaw [14[11] Risen [15][15] StorrZerg [23][23] geript [24][24] Warwick? -> VT? austinmcc [6][3] Meapak_Ziphh [6][14] Sandroba Fiora? Kenpachi[8][15] VT? Rean [16][2] ?->VT bumatlarge [16][12] Tryndamere? BloddyC0bbler [17][5] Janna? justanothertownie marvellosity [7][2] gtrsrs [7][11] Kha'Zix -> VT OdinOfPergo [7][16] Karma -> VT Mocsta [1][5] ? ->VT supersoft [1][30] Oatsmaster [1][1] Cho'Gath ->VT raynpelikoneet [1][1] Shen Last because no numbers sent? kushm4sta ticklishmusic Taric Roffles Coagulation jaybrundage [Tabbz] Ezreal? LSB -> Tryndamere | ||
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Risen, StorrZerg, Geript, Oatsmaster | ||
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On December 02 2013 19:24 Koshi wrote: Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I am going to make the aegis for myself on N1. I should never die and the watcher should just watch me. Just make sure you'll make it through N1, Private Bapkins. | ||
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On December 02 2013 19:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would you not make something useful instead? Because that does not help us finding scum, it only keeps you alive. I think giving listcheck to someone and claiming it just before night ends is the best scenario. Mafia can't abstain, so we get a check off anyway. | ||
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On December 02 2013 19:40 supersoft wrote: why is everyone claiming VT? Do want to make it super easy for scum or what is your intention?! Don't claim if you don't have a good reason. Day1 is not the day for a mass role claim. It is on. Cant stop what we started, so please comply. | ||
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On December 02 2013 19:44 supersoft wrote: ...Kurumis list is a roadmap for bluesnipes. wtf are you thinking?! Not sure, last time I checked I was an assassin and town, so that list is handy to me, also keeps track of our mass claim? | ||
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On December 02 2013 19:52 Koshi wrote: I am still going to make the aegis for myself. You people need to scumhunt to find scummers. I shall not die this game. Yeah you might not die till the endgame and still lose, so listen up Private - we are in this shit together, so stop crying for diapers because there are no babies in brawl. | ||
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On December 02 2013 19:55 Koshi wrote: Ok, if you people are able to lynch a scum with a superpowerful role today I might reconsider. Sounds like you are describing yourself! | ||
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On December 02 2013 20:02 supersoft wrote: 1. there is no massclaim. 2. assassin, yes. town is a solid questionmark right now. 3. also hidden abilities might target special characters. The worst outcome for a massclaim is when some claim and when some dont. At this very moment yes, mafia have blues for picking. That changes the moment we complete the claiming cycle. I wont kill rayn. I said before that I would but I have changed my mind after reading the thread. | ||
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On December 02 2013 20:19 marvellosity wrote: No rayn, it's not all about you darling. If you have such a power, then it's not a big stretch that there might be other, significant vote-fucking powers out there. Vote rigger. Who could rig these? Wukong? | ||
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On December 02 2013 22:59 sandroba wrote: I have a sugestion for the invention. Make a checker that you choose a number and it returns the number of scum that first picked that number. That way you can use it to single check people or to confirm/check multiple people in the number clusters. Sounds far less useful than classic listcheck. | ||
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On December 02 2013 11:32 Mocsta wrote: Why so much hate on plans / vs / not plans. In the end we roll with whatever we get, just like any other game. Im not role claiming anyways. Got burnt by it last PYP where BM fake-claimed justice vigi. On December 02 2013 12:29 Mocsta wrote: I'm vt... Sigh On December 02 2013 13:06 Mocsta wrote: Im vt with 1k hp As for Mocsta one big thing that stands out is that he asks people for opinions but never does provide them himself... unless asked. Diving deeper. | ||
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He can be ill till D2 for all I care. There is no way to get anything from his posts at all. BloodyC0bbler Not much to note besides being against a massclaim, but there is something interesting - he says that Warwick is not that good, because he has to know more to work. I think he started this Urgot wagon, which is pretty decent, he probably was a bus driver as well because of his ultimate in-game. He fought a little with the massclaim plan, but not much. Something is fishy, but he is laid-back in his posts so I am willing to give BC some leeway. Meapak_Ziphh Defends VE pretty hardcore, not much besides "I know him", makes a case on gtrsrs without any meta - posts found in my opinion are absolutely not what I've seen from gtrsrs. He does not care. He does whatever he wants. He shouts. He kicks. He bites. He wants to be in spotlight. He is never wrong. He is the man. Here, he is a tiny weenie potato. Something in the ground. MZ posts enough so I think his alignment will be known soon. As for now, I am a little interested why Mocsta defended gtrsrs and attacked MZ... Chainsaw defence? bumatlarge His case on jcarl is sound - that means, jcarl looks scummy. Bum was trying to coordinate things a little and saw Warwick as a threat. @bum, what do you think about gtrsrs and geript? | ||
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On December 03 2013 00:08 kushm4sta wrote: hey so i replaced onlyawonderboy. please direct me to any important posts/filters. I will give my opinion on anything. ATM im going to go read mocsta's filter. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086&user=Kurumi http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086&user=jcarlsoniv http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086&user=gtrsrs | ||
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On December 03 2013 01:16 jcarlsoniv wrote: Kurumi - out of curiosity - why did you link your own filter to kush to look at? Probably to prove a point my mind tried to show me - kushm4sta does not care at all what he is going to read. | ||
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On December 03 2013 01:19 kushm4sta wrote: huh what do you mean by this? you mean im scum or lazy? Lazy scum. | ||
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On December 03 2013 01:25 Oatsmaster wrote: Kurumi stop OMGUSing I'm very sorry, but this guy came into the thread, made half-assed analysis of me, said that gtrsrs is town for no reason, said jcarl is town for no reason and you think I am not going to call him out on that? | ||
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On December 03 2013 01:26 kushm4sta wrote: gl with that opinion. im voting you now. You forgot about "Kurumi is not trolling" in your brilliant analysis, it'd remind me of those good old days where I had to decide out of 3 scum N1 which one to kill. | ||
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On December 03 2013 01:28 VisceraEyes wrote: Kurumi, let's talk about the choice to not troll this game. Was it conscious or did your scumteam force you into it? Hey Viscera, you are back! Why do you think all these people thinking calling scum "bad town" is fine? You are a silly goose <3 Kush, why didn't you vote me the moment you posted your great analysis? | ||
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On December 03 2013 01:36 VisceraEyes wrote: I don't think them calling scum bad town is fine. And I'm not a silly goose. I'm a very serious, strictly business kind of goose. Damn I wanted to convey something else there, what I meant is "Why these people calling scum "bad town" think it is fine?" | ||
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On December 03 2013 01:41 kushm4sta wrote: I just want to make it clear I didn't call anyone bad town. Jcarl i have nothing but love for you man! I just said bum was making a case on why jcarl was bad town, not why he was scum. I never said it was you who called anyone bad town, why are you so self-absorbed? | ||
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On December 03 2013 01:48 kushm4sta wrote: why are you so hostile?? I love you too kurumi. You host really good games. who is calling people bad town then? it thought I was the only one who brought up the "bad town" concept. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086&user=Roffles | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=266305&user=Mig http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227186&user=Mig ^Town games http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=254174&user=Mig ^Scum game They are decent in length, always good in substance though. | ||
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On December 03 2013 02:57 Koshi wrote: Kurumi. Do you like Warwick? I picked Warwick because I have seen him as a big threat, since he was not banned. Does that mean I like Warwick? Well, he has one of the easiest jungles out there, but is very boring, all he can do is auto-attack or ulti in-game. | ||
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On December 03 2013 03:09 Koshi wrote: Ok. But my real question was: Does Warwick work like this thread thinks he works? Do you like that? Is it usable? I am an assassin. I know you are Viktor. That means I can touch you at night and maybe kill you if you are wounded enough. On the other hand, I can touch some people and confirm their roles, but that'd take cooperation and time. | ||
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On December 03 2013 04:29 VisceraEyes wrote: Marv looks bad to me. Don't wanna lynch yet, just keep watching. Actually I like him. He is way more passive than I remember him being. | ||
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On December 03 2013 04:26 ticklishmusic wrote: geript can't be Warwick, Kurumi already got it. >_> I spent the last couple days researching my hunch that Rayn was scum, but he seems okay based on past games (apart from not calling town absolute shit this game). The ? are if I wasn't sure about something (for example, someone said he likes/dislikes a champion getting in scum hands, geript must have said something along these lines and ended VT) | ||
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On December 03 2013 05:06 Risen wrote: Steering the spam back to discussion... Can someone give me a condensed version of why I should claim? I'm honestly finding the claim talk kind of scummy. Isn't that giving scum more information about how to aim their KP? Trade off is we can as a group decide how to use roles, but that lets scum stay ahead of us and know how to direct their stuff again. We don't know all the roles abilities, I know mine had an interesting twist, so what about role claiming punisher roles? I brought it up earlier and I still think it's relevant. Because some roles have already claimed, many vts have claimed, unless we have people mass claim mafia is at a clear advantage. | ||
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On December 03 2013 06:13 Koshi wrote: I am totes here. Kurumi is scummy in my eyes. Reason? Picked warwick while not knowing how he worked. But then knew it anyway. Also saying crazy stuff like scum having abilities outside the heroes. I was working under assumption that Warwick was an Assassin from other games we've known. It turned out to be true. When did I say anything about scum having abilities outside the heroes? | ||
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Rayn is town. As for you, I have mixed feelings because of that invention shenanigans, but I am leaning town. I mean, you never said anything what would put me off in a scummy way and you are around. | ||
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There was no master plan about draft numbers, all I wanted is to people CLAIM THEIR NUMBERS AFTER DRAFT IS KNOWN. This is the only damn plan that worked in PYP afaik. We started a massclaim so we end it or we gave away lots of info for free to scum. I have no idea why you are so stubborn to see this. | ||
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Yeah, you are new. Okay, so is there anything else to your case besides you not understanding why I call people out on stuff (you omitted kushm4sta convo for some reason) and why I like Warwick? I really would like to talk about your case but I don't see anything there that could be scummy; I think Warwick is dangerous, I vote to ban him. Then, I pick him to deny him from scum. Then, since there was a massclaim motto going on and people claimed I jumped on it because a half-assed massclaim hurts town a lot. I could have kept my mouth shut, I never really pushed claims from people even, so where am I in all of this? I just supported the idea, I have no idea why people don't want to claim at this point, when damage has been done. | ||
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On December 03 2013 08:14 Koshi wrote: Why is it a disaster when 9 people blueclaim their role and 1 guy doesn't? It is a disaster when minority of the players claim their roles, while half of that minority is vt. That paints a HUGE target on people who claimed and gives Mafia an idea where not to hit when it comes to VTs. The info about who VTs tried to pick is crucial because it helps in later stages of the game to catch scum lying about their roles; also, we know where that role MIGHT be. | ||
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On December 24 2013 04:58 WaveofShadow wrote: Picks and bans were handled pretty poorly by the scumteam and they were very uncoordinated throughout the beginning of the game. There was no synergy in their roles, a lot of powerful roles (imo) were not even considered by the scumteam, and a massclaim plan may very well have screwed them over at some point. For the record I would probably be one of those players who refuses to claim as town in a PYP. Takes a lot of the fun out of it for me, and as such there were roles and mechanics included that would punish or mostly prevent a massclaim from working perfectly. WW was a huge role for either town or scum as you guys know, but the role...*ahem* exited the game early. If people have specific questions about stuff that happened/setup stuff I can answer when I get the chance. You weren't supposed to tell people that WW was actually a good role, I plan on picking it next scum PYP game. With current jubjub meta sounds like an easy grab to be honest. | ||
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On December 24 2013 05:47 geript wrote: Just because that type of play has been around since the Stone Age it doesn't mean that type of play should be allowed. It doesn't matter it it were Coag or Marv or god herself. People somehow dealt with Coag, as far I remember it was just shooting him in the face during the night. | ||
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As for my modkill it was just preventing myself from ruining the game and then playing dumb about it. I am sorry for that, but I am the only person that can restrain myself and in the moment of anger I saw no other way than to get myself (mod)killed. The big thing that made me feel bad about this game is how about pretty much everyone was trying to push something into the thread instead of work together. I remember those glorious circles of sandroba, Toad working with syllogism or Viscera and so on. It felt like everyone was alone and was fighting against everyone. Besides that it was people just not knowing stuff. I won't use the word ignorance because it is too strong here. I was really puzzled when I had to convince people that my role pick was strong because Assassins are a godly pick for Mafia, especially with our mass-claim plan. Have I been more active during Day 1 maybe I'd feel different, but the stars aligned in such a way that I wasn't. I recommend everyone to watch Shadow Mini Mafia there are very good players on the list. Trust me, time watching this game will not be time wasted. | ||
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