EPTWith the inventor running around and every role having a 2nd unknown power, it's a pretty safe pick (the person choosing gf would also have a 2nd ability too), as there may be hidden DT roles/items.
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
With the inventor running around and every role having a 2nd unknown power, it's a pretty safe pick (the person choosing gf would also have a 2nd ability too), as there may be hidden DT roles/items. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 02 2013 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: The thing is with the inventor in the game and all roles that fuck with DT-checks the checks are now 100% legit. :p Barring the Godfather obviously, but i doubt any scum picked it because it does serve no purpose. If any townie for some reason picked it i think they should claim it asap. You do realize every role still has a second ability that can fuck with alignments? Chances might be low but possible. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
On December 02 2013 21:58 Koshi wrote: You do realize every role still has a second ability that can fuck with alignments? Chances might be low but possible. I'd say the chances are near 0%. Based on my role i'd say the second abilities are most likely to be close to the first one. Or at least somewhat similar. The thing is we can assume the list check will be most likely correct. Noone is gonna be able to say "but maybe i got framed" or at least that will be HIGHLY unlike it's true, even with scum of course trying to do something like that. Main point is all checks are EXTREMELY likely to be100% legit and therefore you as inventor should invent investigative items imo. Because cops are OP anyways, at least when they got totally legit checks. You know, there is a reason why i wanted to ban the roles i wanted banned. I even crumbed what role i will pick at the start of the game assuming i won't get on top of the list and get inventor. I told VE "i swear i saw a lightning rod in the role list" and with my second power this just became a hella lot better! ^_^ | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
What I/Koshi posted seems essentially correct to me. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
On December 02 2013 22:04 marvellosity wrote: My 2nd ability is nothing like my first ability, that's a terrible stretch. What I/Koshi posted seems essentially correct to me. Hmm okay. Anyways it does not change the fact that we have reduced the possibilities of fucking with possible checks to pretty low amount. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
On December 02 2013 22:08 marvellosity wrote: Indeed. Checks will be nice. But my point was that mafia choosing gf isn't really particularly unlikely, especially from a low draft spot. I do not think anyone from the upper half of the draft would pick GF based on scum banning all inv-roles. You might be right about the lower picks, but then again, in case something implies there is a GF we know to which pool of people to look into. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On December 02 2013 15:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think gtrsrs is one of the most transparent players in the game so far. Not gonna vote for him. Why is VE town for you? How is VE helping the town? How has gtr really been transparent at all? Although I agree with you, VE hasn't done anything overwhelming for town thus far (at least, as far as I've read - still catching up from sleeps) | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On December 02 2013 15:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: Interesting. I think all of those people are town. shocking... /sarcasm there are at least 2 people on that list that are at least leaning scum for me - why the hell do you think everyone there is town | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On December 02 2013 15:01 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I want opinions from everybody in the thread on gtrsrs and geript. I'm not doing an analysis of geript right now since people keep calling him town. I'll accept that I might be wrong for now. But I want people to justify these reads instead of just sheeping rayn. If everyone just continue to parrot rayn I'll go do some digging of my own but right now gtrsrs is my primary goal. Null on gtr for now, but certainly not leaning town. Wary of geript, but I'm trying to decide if it's because of his completely unreasonable reaction to me, or just OMGUS. going to catch up and read more before I post again - heading to work | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 02 2013 22:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: I do not think anyone from the upper half of the draft would pick GF based on scum banning all inv-roles. You might be right about the lower picks, but then again, in case something implies there is a GF we know to which pool of people to look into. Wait. Scum didn't ban Viktor. Then they decide to not pick number 2. Silly gooses. Really strange imho. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
On December 02 2013 22:21 Koshi wrote: Wait. Scum didn't ban Viktor. Then they decide to not pick number 2. Silly gooses. Really strange imho. Assuming you are town maybe they thought they can get rid of you early on. Basically being on top spots puts you under more pressure in terms of "you have a good role, why are you still alive" and "what did you do with your role". In other words it's easier for scum to fuck up if they are top in picking order, far more likely to be somewhere in the middle because you are naturally under less pressure as you have by assumption "worse role". Best thing for scum is to pick combos that work well together, that does not necessarily mean the most individually strongest roles. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Out of the 7 pickers there will be 2 townies at least. marvellosity [7][2] gtrsrs [7][11] OdinOfPergo [7][16] Out of the 1 pickers there will be at least 3 townies. With rayn claiming to pick 1,1 Mocsta [1][5] supersoft [1][30] Oatsmaster [1][1] Cho'Gath raynpelikoneet [1][1] Shen Probably 1 town: BloddyC0bbler [17][5] justanothertownie [17][20] austinmcc [6][3] Meapak_Ziphh [6][14] Sandroba Fiora [8][?] Kenpachi[8][15] Rean [16][2] bumatlarge [16][12] Also bonus assumptions is that there are at least 2 scummers that didn't send in numbers and that hosts changed players so fast because scummers were being whiny bitches in scum QT. kushm4sta ticklishmusic Roffles Coagulation jaybrundage LSB | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
 KoshiShouldn't the people who already claimed VT clarify who they actually tried to pick? I don't see why they wouldn't once they've claimed VT? | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
I'll be voting JC and recommend everyone takes a good look on Bum's case which is the best thing we have going so far. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
Out of the 1 pickers there will be at least 3 townies. With rayn claiming to pick 1,1 Mocsta [1][5] supersoft [1][30] Oatsmaster [1][1] Cho'Gath raynpelikoneet [1][1] Shen I think at least this group has "justified" their number picks reasonably: - I claimed i will pick 1,1 ( i know Mocsta said before the game he will do that aswell - but i am stubborn ^^) - Mocsta claimed he'll pick 1,1 (i don't think him picking 5 as second number means anything alignmentwise), and afaik he was not here for the most of D0. - Oats was using Oats-logic when he told why he picked 1,1. - supersoft said he misunderstood how the draft order is assigned and i believe him. So based on pure number-analysis you can't tell anything about our alignments, other than for those reasons i lean town on supersoft and Oats in their picks. But nothing points towards anyone being scum. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
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