Hosts said there are 3 different VT roles:
You got caster VT that can do 50 damage but got 850 hp. (Odin)
You got VT with 1100 hp and nothing else (Mocsta)
You got VT that can move peepz (Oats)

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

December 02 2013 12:14 GMT

#1244

Well, I managed to miss that. Thanks Koshi.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

December 02 2013 12:15 GMT

#1245

I would propose that anyone with "moving people on the playerlist" ability does not use them without discussing it publicly first.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

December 02 2013 12:15 GMT

#1246

On December 02 2013 16:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
All roffles does is setup speculate and then call out jay for actually doing something else, like attacking marv. Now, i think that Jay's reasoning is bullshit but it doesnt make Jay scum. He's calling Jay bad not scum. It kinda looks like he's going through Jay's filter and looking for all the things that are bad play rather than actually trying to find scummy behavior.

This post makes me like Oats for town, it's observant. Roffles has indeed done a lot of aloof commentating/defending without pushing anything forwards.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

December 02 2013 12:20 GMT

#1247

On December 02 2013 21:14 marvellosity wrote:
Well, I managed to miss that. Thanks Koshi.

Well, hosts didn't confirm which ones. But those 3 are claimed by people. Would be kinda ballsy to fakeclaim that when it is so easily CCable.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

December 02 2013 12:23 GMT

#1248

VT isn't CCable?

wat

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

December 02 2013 12:25 GMT

#1249

By the way, rayn, I do basically agree with you that it isn't really possible to have a proper read on VE from N0 - but I do also think that MZ is the type of player who would think that he could. If that makes sense.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

December 02 2013 12:28 GMT

#1250

Well, I mean that if there suddenly 4 different roles for VTs pop up we know 1 is lying.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

December 02 2013 12:31 GMT

#1251

On December 02 2013 21:25 marvellosity wrote:
By the way, rayn, I do basically agree with you that it isn't really possible to have a proper read on VE from N0 - but I do also think that MZ is the type of player who would think that he could. If that makes sense.

Yeah that's what i meant before i tried to go to sleep in my last post. I reread MZ's posts and his argument with me and came into conclusion he was being reasonable and not scummy.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

December 02 2013 12:34 GMT

#1252

Just got to bumandlarge's case. It was much better/more persuasive than I expected it to be. Pretty nice actually.

justanothertownie

16322 Posts

December 02 2013 12:34 GMT

#1253

...did I state already how much I hate playing on Day1? So many posts...

I got a role. A boring one. So don't give me some VT item. My numbers were [17][20] in case there are still people wondering about that (no clue how this is of any relevance tbh). I am against massclaiming right now and still think LSBs posts before deadline were really weird.
To Mocsta: I did not assume rayn was town. He just made sense then. NOW I am assuming he is town for the time being because he clearly is trying to get town on the right track.
I will get some sleep now because I did not do so at all last night - will be back in the evening.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

December 02 2013 12:36 GMT

#1254

You chose a boring role on purpose jat? What are you saying there?

justanothertownie

16322 Posts

December 02 2013 12:37 GMT

#1255

No, I chose a role that I thought I could get and hoped for a good second ability. Also boring does not mean really bad btw.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

December 02 2013 12:43 GMT

#1256

Alright, I'm caught up. General roundup musings.

jcarl looks bad as per bum's case. I have nothing to add.
Rean started off super-loud but has fallen away. Why?
gtrsrs's posts look bad, his meta makes him look bad.
Don't like Mocsta for reasons I already mentioned, his shit with MZ also looks ridiculous.
jay's bullshitting his read on me, he can die for it probably.

Other people are town or dunno.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

December 02 2013 12:48 GMT

#1257

Yeah Rean is weird. Early on i thought he was town but since then i have started having second doubts based on what Oats said about him (i thought this was his second game for some reason) and what you just said marv and what sandroba asked him earlier.

I would hope sandroba does not lose interest in this game if he is town. His end of D0 was pretty good imo.

marv what do you think of BC and LSB. At least LSB should be super aware of what's good and what's bad in PYP games but it does not feel like he is trying to work for town's good. Also i think the same about the couple of BC's posts i remember.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

December 02 2013 12:51 GMT

#1258

I've basically disagreed with most of the content of LSB's posts as far as I remember (ref: when to claim etc) and he said he wants to go after people who wanted to ban mafia roles. It's a weird angle in general, but it's an even weirder angle for mafia to take. It's unnecessarily boatrocky and controversial. Possibly he's capable of taking such an angle as mafia, but gotta wait and see for now.

BC no idea at all, too early.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

December 02 2013 12:54 GMT

#1259

The thing is with the inventor in the game and all roles that fuck with DT-checks the checks are now 100% legit. :p
Barring the Godfather obviously, but i doubt any scum picked it because it does serve no purpose. If any townie for some reason picked it i think they should claim it asap.