EPTOn December 04 2013 14:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Of course youdon't because you are scum.
Of course youdon't because you are scum.
Look. Do you really want to rumble?
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geript
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Meapak_Ziphh
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anybody wanna give me a summary? As a note this is the week before finals for me so I won't be around for the middle of most weekdays. | ||
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Mocsta
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On December 04 2013 14:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: You still have never providedany actual evidence why what you have said about Oats makes him scum. Maybe, but I dunno if that is grounds to call Geript scum. I actually think hes playing pretty well --> not shitting up the thread etc. | ||
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geript
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On December 04 2013 14:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: You still have never providedany actual evidence why what you have said about Oats makes him scum. Because what I said wasn't something I can look at in an objective way and prove to you. I don't think you're obvious town like a number of people think. But equally it's not and it wasn't going to be productive for me to get into a shitfest with you over it. Yah I think he's scum and I'm going to ride his ass until I either die, prove it to everyone, he dies or I'm convinced he's town. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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Geript, I was ok with lynching bum. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On December 04 2013 14:10 Mocsta wrote: Maybe, but I dunno if that is grounds to call Geript scum. I actually think hes playing pretty well --> not shitting up the thread etc. Idon't know what makes you think he is playing well? He played "well" in LXI aswell, not shitting up the thread, making cases and so on. He is not actually doing anything useful here. His case on Oats is a couple of comments followed by "Oats did this in his scumgame X". He didn't even want to lynch Oats "because noone will believe me so i am up for a lurker lynch". His scumread on me is "rayn changed his read on me, he does not do that when he is town". Go look at for example LXIII where i change my read on Koshi for like 20 times during 5 phases. He only started to push other candidates on D1 when it was quite clear bumatlarge was gonna get lynched. He is calling out my most pro-town plan there is. Make a better one then if you don't like it, you have all the info. You have my role, you have half of the people's roles. Yeah that's my case on geript, everything he does is either really weak - and not in a townie way, or straight out bull. Vigi should shoot him. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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On December 04 2013 14:13 geript wrote: Because what I said wasn't something I can look at in an objective way and prove to you. I don't think you're obvious town like a number of people think. But equally it's not and it wasn't going to be productive for me to get into a shitfest with you over it. Yah I think he's scum and I'm going to ride his ass until I either die, prove it to everyone, he dies or I'm convinced he's town. whats the point? Why dont you just think of stuff you could say to convince people? Now its a front to have some kind of activity. | ||
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geript
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On December 04 2013 14:13 Oatsmaster wrote: His read on Rayn is also really weird. Geript, I was ok with lynching bum. Yah, that's part of my problem. The way that wagon ended up (no real counter wagon, no major push in other directions, a majority of the vote at many points, everyone seems fine with killing but no one really making a push to save him, etc) it didn't give me great feelings that we were going to lynch scum. Yah I recognized that scum could just be inactive/willing to bus/bussing/etc, but that's significantly lower odds imo. As town, I'm never "OK" lynching town. I always want to look and see if there's something missing something else moving. The inactivity in the thread, other than about bum, didn't feel good. People being "ok" with his lynch and not wanting to go elsewhere really bugs me. So did VE's "I'm not gonna vote Bum because I like LSB way more" thing with sandro. | ||
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Mocsta
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On December 04 2013 14:13 geript wrote: If its any consolation I think you are both town.Because what I said wasn't something I can look at in an objective way and prove to you. I don't think you're obvious town like a number of people think. But equally it's not and it wasn't going to be productive for me to get into a shitfest with you over it. Yah I think he's scum and I'm going to ride his ass until I either die, prove it to everyone, he dies or I'm convinced he's town. Can we put this aside and get back to the real scum hunting. I don't think Bum was a scum pushed lynch. Marv/Sandroba were quite influential in the push, and Bum himself didn't do a convincing job in the defense. But Bum raised an interesting point: Look at the people that called him town easily. jonny + Kush Jonny is interesting. His reason for thinking bum is town, was cos bum called him town. I think this is pretty weak. Further, I havent seen him try to develop his read on Kush (which was meant to be his prime target). I still think there is potential here, thoughts? Kush is also interesting. Mainly because he called me town + was pretty emphatic that Bum was town. We also know that a "correct Kush, is a scum Kush". Further, he is saying hes OK with a Jay lynch (instead of Bum). I still think Jay is scum (and we *know* Kush loves to bus) so this association is interesting (even without a flip) Thoughts? | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
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I'm rereading the thread but I'm asking these questions as well because I want to hear different views on what happened. | ||
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geript
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I'm going to be looking into those plus Oats, Jay (more) and Kenpachi tomorrow after clinicals. | ||
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geript
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On December 04 2013 14:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: please, someone give me a few filters to read. Who was the primary force behind the bum lynch? Why are we talking about lynching geript after the bum lynch? I'm rereading the thread but I'm asking these questions as well because I want to hear different views on what happened. 1. I'm surprised you didn't know this. 2. Only Rayn/Oats/jcarl/Kenpachi and idk who else are considering it afaik 3. I'd rather hear your views on what/how it went down. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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raynpelikoneet
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On December 04 2013 14:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: please, someone give me a few filters to read. Who was the primary force behind the bum lynch? Why are we talking about lynching geript after the bum lynch? I'm rereading the thread but I'm asking these questions as well because I want to hear different views on what happened. I am interested in heraing what's your reasoning behind definitely not considering geript lynch next? | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
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I'm not being lazy oats, I just wanna know if I should watch for anything. | ||
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Mocsta
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On December 04 2013 14:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hey,I am interested in heraing what's your reasoning behind definitely not considering geript lynch next? whilst you are waiting for Geript to respond to your case above. Want to weigh in on johnny/Kush? | ||
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Mocsta
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On December 04 2013 14:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: ok guys keep in mind my last post was somewhere in the 90s pages so I have a lot of ground to cover. I've been suspicious of geript so I am more than willing to consider a geript lynch, I just like to understand what changed to get other people to agree with me. I'm not being lazy oats, I just wanna know if I should watch for anything. Jesus... read the 30 pages then come back will ya. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On December 04 2013 14:38 Mocsta wrote: Hey, whilst you are waiting for Geript to respond to your case above. Want to weigh in on johnny/Kush? I don't think either of them is scum. I don't feel like going into reasons (and i have given my reasons for them already and those reasons ahve not changed). tbh i don't feel like posting anything atm because convincing people here atm on anything doesn't achieve much because it seems like only things that will go through is what marv/sandroba say. Not that i mind it as i think they are town but there is no point in trying to yell here now because it's useless. | ||
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