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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On December 04 2013 14:46 Oatsmaster wrote: Marv and sandro could read it and push it. Yeah but i'd rather talk to them directly when they are around. Even if i was able to convince all the ~5 people who are here now at something what's the point when i can tomorrow convince marv and get him easily to convince ~15 people? | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
2.His case on Oats is a couple of comments followed by "Oats did this in his scumgame X". 3.He didn't even want to lynch Oats "because noone will believe me so i am up for a lurker lynch". 4.His scumread on me is "rayn changed his read on me, he does not do that when he is town". 5. He is calling out my most pro-town plan there is. Yeah that's my case on geript, everything he does is either really weak - and not in a townie way, or straight out bull. Here's a line that Oats loves to use this game, "but which of those makes me scum?" Honestly can you step back and say that this isn't just confirmation bias. If so then bring it and bring it hard. In the mean time, I'll be lynching scum. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
Further, by discussing these things now: we might be putting them in the right direction and saving them time that can be used to further refine the reads. With Geript, I simply think its better if he addresses your case. He should be more than apt to. Even if he is scum, thats 1 of 6. You don't seem to think that jonny, kush or jay is scum. (Nor Marv/Sandroba) Any leads on any of the other 5? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
hey rayn and geript, what do you think about Risen and Roffles? | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On December 04 2013 14:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah but i'd rather talk to them directly when they are around. Even if i was able to convince all the ~5 people who are here now at something what's the point when i can tomorrow convince marv and get him easily to convince ~15 people? So does it make you anymore scum that you want to lynch me and aren't pushing me? | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On December 04 2013 14:51 Oatsmaster wrote: Nah, the line I like to use this game, "but which of those makes them scum?". hey rayn and geript, what do you think about Risen and Roffles? Risen. No clue. Read him at one point but nothing memorable other than I feel like Risen has been more vocal in games I played where he was town. Roffles. Slight town read based on behavior. I skimmed him once but thought there were more concerning issues. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On December 04 2013 14:51 Mocsta wrote: Just because Marv/Sandroba are influential, certainly doesn't mean they are the end all, be all. Further, by discussing these things now: we might be putting them in the right direction and saving them time that can be used to further refine the reads. With Geript, I simply think its better if he addresses your case. He should be more than apt to. Even if he is scum, thats 1 of 6. You don't seem to think that jonny, kush or jay is scum. (Nor Marv/Sandroba) Any leads on any of the other 5? I don't know about jay. I have to reread him tomorrow. I don't like what he is doing (which is nothing), i just don't know if it makes him mafia. On December 04 2013 14:51 Oatsmaster wrote: Nah, the line I like to use this game, "but which of those makes them scum?". hey rayn and geript, what do you think about Risen and Roffles? Risen seems like town!Risen who does not give a fuck because he does not care. Roffles could be scum, i think he's been pretty weak. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
Ima all happy that Rayn wants to be a new man when it comes to chucking the shits. But its pretty disrepectful that we aren't worth his time to discuss reads. "OoOoO because marv/sandroba are influential this game I will only talk with them" i.e. I wanna start a vet circle jerk I have a vote and its worth as much as anyone elses.... | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
I was expecting a reply earlier given your spammy nature. Apologies.. Lemme look into Risen. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
I am just saying i am not going to yell here geript is scum and get into an argument with him because i don't want to do it now. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
Hes playing pretty selfish which is why I don't mind him. i.e. his posting about stuff thats important to him (role claims etc) and I don't really see how hes pushing a scum agenda with his posts -- which is more what I expect from him. He said his role is self-evident, so I suppose after the night phase it may be clearer what he is based on role pick/usage. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On December 04 2013 14:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Noted. I think that is a fair position (regarding Geript).Hey Mocsta i am not saying i will not discuss things with you, because i am more than willing to do so. I am just saying i am not going to yell here geript is scum and get into an argument with him because i don't want to do it now. I agree with his case breakdown though. Some of what you said is annoying as the end-user (e.g. shits on ya plan) .. but I dont see why a townie wouldnt/couldnt do that either. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On December 04 2013 15:01 Mocsta wrote: I think Risen is <OK>. Hes playing pretty selfish which is why I don't mind him. i.e. his posting about stuff thats important to him (role claims etc) and I don't really see how hes pushing a scum agenda with his posts -- which is more what I expect from him. He said his role is self-evident, so I suppose after the night phase it may be clearer what he is based on role pick/usage. I think this is a pretty good recap of Risen's play and the conclusion is fine too. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On December 04 2013 15:03 Mocsta wrote: Noted. I think that is a fair position (regarding Geript). I agree with his case breakdown though. Some of what you said is annoying as the end-user (e.g. shits on ya plan) .. but I dont see why a townie wouldnt/couldnt do that either. I don't care about someone telling me your plan is bad in case they have something better to offer. Which geript hasn't. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
he has jonny as town which I did as well. he has jcarl, geript, LSB, roffles, and kush as red, I feel this is a pretty good target pool to work from he has VE as possible red which I obviously don't agree with from here I wanna filter dive bum's primary red targets and see what I can see. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On December 04 2013 15:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: I won't get into this too much (i.e. this is the last I will say).I don't care about someone telling me your plan is bad in case they have something better to offer. Which geript hasn't. To me, ppl shit on plans all the time (in real life) cos its easy. Coming up with an alternative is always difficult, and often is what separates leaders from sheep. I think shitting on you would be malicious if you were discredited in the process. I dont recall this happening - hence null. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
I wonder what's up with the fact that VE in fact IS a highly influential player and capable of pushing lynches. Yet he did not try to push LSB lynch but still seemed to think LSB was a better lynch than bum. Do you think VE is just lazy or does he have some other agenda of not really wanting to lynch LSB? For me it didn't really seem like he was trying to lynch his top read. | ||
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