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Aquanim
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Aquanim
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On November 24 2013 11:39 Holyflare wrote: If you really think I play scum by claiming doctor and posting next to nothing to look towny you are actually dumb and have not done what I asked. Like I said, go read actual games I have played in. The town meta of players typically does not change dramatically from game to game in my experience. This is not Holy's town meta. The scum meta of players DOES change from game to game, to avoid being similar to their last game and caught in this way. If Holy played scum exactly the same way as he played last time that would just be stupid. | ||
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sciberbia
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+ Show Spoiler [JJD] + On November 22 2013 11:07 JarJarDrinks wrote: WTF kind of response is this? I point out a direct contridiction and your response is "you have no idea how i play". WTF does that even mean? How you play is that you give someone a scumread and then use that exact same reasoning later to give them a townread? On November 22 2013 11:48 JarJarDrinks wrote: Did cora just walk in and take away a flip? Cora, you're really voting for no-lynch? These two posts were in the hour leading up to the lynch. These are his ONLY two posts in the 2.5 hours leading up to the lynch. This is really scummy. He cearly had the thread open, as he responded to a post from rayn and from Cora's vote. But he wasn't partaking in ANY of the discussion in the final hour of the rayn lynch. I remember that several of us were heatedly debating whether we should lynch onegu, cora, rayn. I remember our discussion as we tried to build a counter-wagon. It was pretty hectic. But JJD was just calmly watching it all? That strikes me as really scummy. Shouldn't he have been wanting to make his voice heard? He doesn't reassure people that rayn is the right lynch. He doesn't question the people calling rayn town. He doesn't express interest in any possible counter wagon. It looks like he's just happy to twiddle his thumbs as rayn gets lynched, which given that he flipped town is extremeley suspicious. Going to re-read the rest of his filter which I honestly haven't been paying much attention to, but his actions right before the lynch are really suspicous. | ||
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Aquanim
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It would take some balls for Holy to claim it without knowing that, but I don't think it's even nearly impossible. | ||
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Aquanim
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##Unvote Let me think about this. | ||
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sciberbia
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On November 24 2013 16:37 Aquanim wrote: ...bah, no. I can't really vote him. Either he dies tonight or there's at least the possibility he gets a save. ##Unvote Let me think about this. Yea and going with the assumption that scum Delayed last night, even if they shoot him he can still save their other shot. And if they don't shoot him he has a pretty good chance to guess one one of the two correctly. If he really is a doctor his being alive tonight will be a major thorn in scum's side. | ||
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thrawn2112
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thrawn2112
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jampi/rean both afk, if one or both are town it makes it that much harder to get a majority on scum. if both are town and neither of them vote then town only has 6 votes and we need 6 votes to reach majority... doesn't look good hf is making no efforts to find scum but still finds time to defend his doc claim and insult people? I dont remember ever disagreeing with anything that's been pointed out about onegu recently my possible lynch targets are therefore JJD, HF, and Onegu. | ||
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sciberbia
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On the other hand, I can easily see scum doing it. Rayn looked likely to be lynched so scum probably didn't feel much pressure. There's no reason for scum to be posting with a townie lynch coming down the pipeline. Furthermore here JJD expresses his opinion that Onegu is town and HF is scum, but says he will reread. + Show Spoiler + On November 22 2013 22:23 JarJarDrinks wrote: Gonna reread Onegu but I haven't thought he was scum @ all this game so I doubt that's gonna change. Not crazy about Holyflare so gonna look close @ him. He never posts the results of this reread. He hasn't been defending Onegu today even though he's looked like the most likely lynch candidate. He hasn't been pushing an HF lynch either. As thrawn says he's too content doing nothing. Combined with what aquanim and thrawn have posted, this feels really right to me. Better than every other lynch. ##Vote: JarJarDrinks | ||
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sciberbia
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What do you think about the arguments made by myself and others that HF is strategically a bad lynch today? I think it's a strictly better play to wait and see what happens N2 and lynch him tomorrow if necessary. Also can you even envision being online but not posting in those last couple hours before the lynch yesterday? I just don't see how JJD could do that as town. | ||
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Aquanim
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On November 24 2013 17:28 sciberbia wrote: Lurking through the rayn lynch is by far the single scummiest thing anybody has done this entire game. I can't even imagine myself, as town, reading the 100 posts between pages 50 and 55 (the hour leading up to the lynch), and not posting my thoughts. That's crunch time. That's when the game is won or lost. It's when all the drama happens. The lynch was in question and everybody else online was vehemently discussing it, but JJD was just sitting there passing the time. On the other hand, I can easily see scum doing it. Rayn looked likely to be lynched so scum probably didn't feel much pressure. There's no reason for scum to be posting with a townie lynch coming down the pipeline. ... Dunno why it didn't quite reach my brain until this repetition, but yeah this is damning. ##Vote: JarJarDrinks | ||
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sciberbia
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Here are all the posts made by people online within two hours of the lynch yesterday, broken down by person. The counts alone don't really do this justice. I wish I could quote it all but too many posts. Look at the filters of the non JJD players on this list. They are mostly angry/emotional/frantic/worried. Everybody else was pushing hard to get their voice heard and convince other people of their thoughts. Either townies who care about the lynch or scum doing a decent job of faking it. Except JJD. He's content to do nothing, be ignored, and not partake in this crucial discussion. thrawn: 37 posts in the last 2 hours JJD: 2 posts in the last 2 hours (not even relevant) + Show Spoiler + On November 22 2013 11:07 JarJarDrinks wrote: WTF kind of response is this? I point out a direct contridiction and your response is "you have no idea how i play". WTF does that even mean? How you play is that you give someone a scumread and then use that exact same reasoning later to give them a townread? On November 22 2013 11:48 JarJarDrinks wrote: Did cora just walk in and take away a flip? Cora, you're really voting for no-lynch? Cora: 8 posts (in the last half hour) Bereft: 18 posts in the last 2 hours rayn: 61 posts in the last 2 hours Mocsta: 17 posts in the last 2 hours sciberbia: 13 posts in the last 2 hours aquanim: 31 posts in the last 2 hours even HF: 12 posts in the last 2 hours | ||
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Mocsta
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Lets get a majority people !!! | ||
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ObviousOne
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Chezinu
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I'm Chezinu | ||
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sciberbia
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Have you been following the game? | ||
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Chezinu
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On November 24 2013 21:09 sciberbia wrote: Hi Chezinu. Have you been following the game? Nah, just read the rules. Can you explain your story on Day 1? Please include the cause or lack of cause of the mob, the evil deeds of police brutally, friendly fire, and the hero/martyrs among the crowd. I will soon provide a resolution to unite the people against the tyranny of this criminal police state. I'm telling you, the police are nothing but organized criminals. Yes, they are... Mafia. | ||
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sciberbia
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On November 24 2013 21:26 Chezinu wrote: Nah, just read the rules. Can you explain your story on Day 1? Please include the cause or lack of cause of the mob, the evil deeds of police brutally, friendly fire, and the hero/martyrs among the crowd. I will soon provide a resolution to unite the people against the tyranny of this criminal police state. I'm telling you, the police are nothing but organized criminals. Yes, they are... Mafia. D1 tl;dr wagon on Aquanim which then went away in favor of wagon on Rean which then went away in favor of wagon on rayn who was lynched and flipped vanilla town cause of the mob - to rid itself of the troublesome young raynpelikoneet who was disliked by many of his fellow mobsters and was even suspected by some of working for the police evil deeds of police (brutally) - the police didn't kill anyone last night.. not sure how I can describe this brutally friendly fire - well at least 4 mobsters voted for raynpelikoneet martyrs - raynpelikoneet, so enamored with Rean that he was willing to die in Rean's stead heroes - sciberbia | ||
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