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On November 23 2013 12:06 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 12:04 cDgCorazon wrote:
Scum didn't kill. I'm pretty confident in that fact.
They are very certain that today's lynch will be town, which would fall in line with their decision to lynch Rayn and not have him be lynched today. ...what? Give me one good reason why scum would give us an extra mislynch (I'm pretty sure that's what this means).
Because either no one is on the right track or they are confident that we aren't going to find them.
They're not giving us an extra mislynch, read the OP. If they didn't shoot tonight that means they get 2 KP tomorrow night.
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On November 22 2013 12:48 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 12:41 Mocsta wrote:On November 22 2013 12:32 Holyflare wrote:
Onegu is someone who prides himself in reading rayn, he even started to call him town at his last post before he afk'd. If he knew rayn was displaying his towny attributes why did he not try and convince any of you that he wasn't scum? Well, his last post was at like 3am.. i dunno So.. am I still scum to you? From what I've read so far, I mean, you of all people have played with rayn and that vote just now was pure policy. You know I have also played with rayn a lot and so when I call him town based on what I've read you shouldn't throw it away and still lynch him. Yes he may have been obnoxious and shit flinging but that is because he was quite clearly annoyed at people. He was emotionally invested. It is hard to fake it the way he did and whether he was annoying or not a towny is a towny. You actively went against a win con because you did not want to play with him again. THAT is scummy. There was Aqua who blatantly disregarded anything rayn said at all. The crux of it comes down to this: He had reads on people that disagreed with thread sentiment. He thought he was correct in those reads and shit things up, so what part of that would have been scummy to you? He went balls to the wall defending someone other people think is scum. Do you think he'd associate that strongly with someone if he was scum? That is not how rayn plays at all.
So HF, can you please explain why you disliked the Rayn lynch so strongly and attacked Mocsta for it, yet you were on the train as well? Why would you vote for a lynch you didn't like at all?
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@Aqua
On November 23 2013 10:57 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 10:54 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 23 2013 10:38 sciberbia wrote:Have some questions for you Cora. 1) Can you explain what you were talking about in this post? How exactly did you think rayn was trying to gain town cred by going on a rampage and martyring himself? On November 22 2013 04:45 cDgCorazon wrote:
I really do not like Rayn martyring...tbh the concept of martyring has been beaten to death and I think he's just using it as a ploy to gain town cred.
2) If you think it would have been beneficial to scum to keep rayn alive yesterday EVEN given that he is town, why would you not vote for him yesterday? Surely if you think lynching town!rayn would be bad for scum, then it would be good for town? And if he flipped scum even better, right? I don't see how you reconcile voting for no lynch with claiming that it would have been better for scum to no-lynch yesterday. Ok, to be honest, the Rayn lynch was basically impossible for me to pick a side. On one hand, I really thought Rayn was town. On the other hand, Rayn's play was very anti-town. It is a very narrow playstyle that Rayn's townplay fits into. He can be town but not an asset to town at the same time. That is the reason I'm not attacking Mocsta after Rayn's flip. I think I'm being misrepresented (or perhaps I have misrepresented myself) to say that I was against the Rayn lynch. Rayn's really bad townplay, along with the fact that it was a majority lynch, gave me a choice of either lynching someone who I was very confident was town or having him shit up the thread. I think my thought process would make more sense if I went through it. At the beginning, when I made all of those "OMG this fight is stupid" posts, it was due to the fact that the thread had become a shitfest and Rayn/everyone else were simply shitting up the thread. I was truly exasperated and angry that the thread had gone out of control and we had gone from some very good discussion on Aqua/myself/Rean to Rayn and only Rayn. After I came back from school, I was still trying to make a decision whether to vote Rayn or not. When I made the post that you quoted, I think I was trying to justify a Rayn lynch to myself. I knew that it was a dumb lynch but I also knew that I could not do anything about it. Rayn had basically lost it and I did not know whether to give him a second chance or not. When I got back (about 45 minutes from the deadline), I said to myself "Fuck it, I'm not going to be dragged around and be forced to follow thread sentiment". So I voted for a no-lynch. I knew it was useless to try and suggest a different lynch because Rayn was already bleeding badly and all of the sharks were floating around him. You guys were tunneled way too hard on Rayn and that was a mistake that I tried to correct earlier but gave up out of frustration. TL;DR: My town read on Rayn + The shitty town atmosphere Rayn was causing= scenario where no one wins and I'm forced to walk a very fine line to take a neutral stance on Rayn's lynch. Edit in bold
Did you read this? (The big post in the spoiler) Does this help you understand my vote D1?
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On November 23 2013 12:10 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 12:07 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 23 2013 12:06 Aquanim wrote:On November 23 2013 12:04 cDgCorazon wrote:
Scum didn't kill. I'm pretty confident in that fact.
They are very certain that today's lynch will be town, which would fall in line with their decision to lynch Rayn and not have him be lynched today. ...what? Give me one good reason why scum would give us an extra mislynch (I'm pretty sure that's what this means). Because either no one is on the right track or they are confident that we aren't going to find them. They're not giving us an extra mislynch, read the OP. If they didn't shoot tonight that means they get 2 KP tomorrow night. My bad, you're quite right. I don't see why this means that we're not on the right track though, unless you think that absolutely anyone they could shoot would increase suspicion of them. Shooting Thrawn or Mocsta wouldn't change today's lynch much I don't think.
Well they could be doing it to mindgame us. I just think they are confident we are going to mislynch again. Or they are bad.
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On November 23 2013 12:13 Holyflare wrote:
I can never be 100% guaranteed in a lynch. A no lynch gives scum a free night of kills and we gather no information from a flip. Arguably, yes he was a towny but lynch wagons are ideal situations to determine motive. That is why anyone that requests a policy lynch in a game of mafia is scummy as hell. If you have a problem with a person then talk to the host, don't actively go against a win con.
Then why did you only say it was scummy after the flip? You should've made that post @Mocsta before the flip, not after. It just looks like you wanted to distance yourself from the Rayn lynch and blame Mocsta for the whole thing.
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On November 23 2013 12:20 Holyflare wrote:
It's scummy to policy lynch in a game of information because you are actively masking your intentions if the policy was not there. I didn't think you needed that spelt out for you.
Why are you saying this now and why didn't you call Mocsta out for this before Rayn died?
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On November 23 2013 12:22 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 12:00 cDgCorazon wrote:
When did I attack Mocsta for being scum? I think you're asking me this question, and now that I read again you're mostly 1) unimpressed with the ego battle between Mocsta and Rayn and 2) not happy with the "buddying" between Mocsta and Thrawn. I don't think I thought you were attacking Mocsta for being scum as such but you have been talking a fair bit about Mocsta above other people who I think are far, far more likely to flip scum.
I'm trying to keep Mocsta on track and not have him rule the town and force all of the lynches to be "my way or the highway" which is what I felt he did to me and the rest of the town D1.
A good, constructive Mocsta is an asset to town while a tunneled, heuristic-filled Mocsta is a detriment. I'm just trying to get the former type of play out of Moc.
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On November 23 2013 12:24 Holyflare wrote:
Oh please, you want me to lecture people who are deadset on policy lynching someone? Yeh that never works there are way too many egos involved and post lynch people most definitely calm down and can see the bigger picture.
Stop trying to play it off. The bottom line is that you voted with Mocsta. His argument convinced you and you voted with Mocsta. I find it extremely hypocritical that you attacked Mocsta for lynching Rayn when you agreed with the lynch. If you didn't like the lynch, you should not have voted for it. There was 7 on the wagon without your vote. You didn't need to be on there. Yet you were on there and now you are trying to pass the blame onto Mocsta. It's really scummy.
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On November 23 2013 12:41 JarJarDrinks wrote:
so now that I think about it, why wouldn't they just shoot holy after his claim? Was there really no scum around @ the deadline?
Cause that claim was too stupid to be true.
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On November 23 2013 13:49 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 10:54 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 23 2013 10:38 sciberbia wrote:Have some questions for you Cora. 1) Can you explain what you were talking about in this post? How exactly did you think rayn was trying to gain town cred by going on a rampage and martyring himself? On November 22 2013 04:45 cDgCorazon wrote:
I really do not like Rayn martyring...tbh the concept of martyring has been beaten to death and I think he's just using it as a ploy to gain town cred.
2) If you think it would have been beneficial to scum to keep rayn alive yesterday EVEN given that he is town, why would you not vote for him yesterday? Surely if you think lynching town!rayn would be bad for scum, then it would be good for town? And if he flipped scum even better, right? I don't see how you reconcile voting for no lynch with claiming that it would have been better for scum to no-lynch yesterday. Ok, to be honest, the Rayn lynch was basically impossible for me to pick a side. On one hand, I really thought Rayn was town. On the other hand, Rayn's play was very anti-town. It is a very narrow playstyle that Rayn's townplay fits into. He can be town but not an asset to town at the same time. That is the reason I'm not attacking Mocsta after Rayn's flip. I think I'm being misrepresented (or perhaps I have misrepresented myself) to say that I was against the Rayn lynch. Rayn's really bad townplay, along with the fact that it was a majority lynch, gave me a choice of either lynching someone who I was very confident was town or having him shit up the thread. I think my thought process would make more sense if I went through it. At the beginning, when I made all of those "OMG this fight is stupid" posts, it was due to the fact that the thread had become a shitfest and Rayn/everyone else were simply shitting up the thread. I was truly exasperated and angry that the thread had gone out of control and we had gone from some very good discussion on Aqua/myself/Rean to Rayn and only Rayn. After I came back from school, I was still trying to make a decision whether to vote Rayn or not. When I made the post that you quoted, I think I was trying to justify a Rayn lynch to myself. I knew that it was a dumb lynch but I also knew that I could not do anything about it. Rayn had basically lost it and I did not know whether to give him a second chance or not. When I got back (about 45 minutes from the deadline), I said to myself "Fuck it, I'm not going to be dragged around and be forced to follow thread sentiment". So I voted for a no-lynch. I knew it was useless to try and suggest because Rayn was already bleeding badly and all of the sharks were floating around him. You guys were tunneled way too hard on Rayn and that was a mistake that I tried to correct earlier but gave up out of frustration. TL;DR: My town read on Rayn + The shitty town atmosphere Rayn was causing= scenario where no one wins and I'm forced to walk a very fine line to take a neutral stance on Rayn's lynch. On a lunch break. This is a really bad post. Its very constructed and uses analogies. This is the first time Corazon breaks out a post with this type of construction and notably, he is answering a very important question from Sciberbia that - I think - produces an alignment indicative response.
Yes because I planned to say my answer and then decide to say my answer more in-depth. Sounds totally planned.
A more "constructed" post would have been everything after "I think my thought process would make more sense if I went through it".
Seeing as I've been asked to repeat the same thing 5 times about other issues, I thought I might as well explain myself and leave nothing out of it.
Since when is using analogies a scum-tell?
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Also Mocsta, I'm tired of you picking on me. You've been waffling on your read about me. Either make the fucking case or hold your tongue.
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On November 23 2013 14:55 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 11:43 cDgCorazon wrote:
About to eat dinner- giving my final brief reads just in case I die (I probably won't)
Coming into D2, I want to lynch Onegu. His play has been really shady and he needs to be under the gun D2. He does not care about who gets lynched which is a huge scum tell.
I'd also be cool lynching Jampi for similar reasons.
HF blaming Mocsta for the lynch is really scummy seeing as if HF was town and didn't like the lynch, he could just back off it.
I'd be down for lynching one of those three tomorrow.
Sciberia's vote was really shady as it came with no explanation at the buzzer. From what I gathered up, he did not have a scum read on Rayn yet voted for him (let me know sci if I missed a post)
Thrawn needs to have more of a presence in the thread and needs to stop buddying Mocsta and make his own reads.
I'm not interested in lynching anyone outside of these 5 as of now. Of course I will be flexible depending on what happens. So bad cora, take a look at when I voted what the wagons were, it was rayn with majority, and no one else with more than 1 vote.
Why haven't you been a factor in the scumhunting this whole game? You could've been there at the lynch. You could've chimed in a few hours before and said why you wanted to stay on Mocsta. It wasn't at an ungodly hour for where you were.
Your vote, no matter how good it is, does not absolve you of the poor standard of play you have showed us so far.
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I think he should hang. He's scum man.
##Vote: Onegu
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On November 23 2013 15:22 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 15:06 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 23 2013 14:55 Onegu wrote:On November 23 2013 11:43 cDgCorazon wrote:
About to eat dinner- giving my final brief reads just in case I die (I probably won't)
Coming into D2, I want to lynch Onegu. His play has been really shady and he needs to be under the gun D2. He does not care about who gets lynched which is a huge scum tell.
I'd also be cool lynching Jampi for similar reasons.
HF blaming Mocsta for the lynch is really scummy seeing as if HF was town and didn't like the lynch, he could just back off it.
I'd be down for lynching one of those three tomorrow.
Sciberia's vote was really shady as it came with no explanation at the buzzer. From what I gathered up, he did not have a scum read on Rayn yet voted for him (let me know sci if I missed a post)
Thrawn needs to have more of a presence in the thread and needs to stop buddying Mocsta and make his own reads.
I'm not interested in lynching anyone outside of these 5 as of now. Of course I will be flexible depending on what happens. So bad cora, take a look at when I voted what the wagons were, it was rayn with majority, and no one else with more than 1 vote. Why haven't you been a factor in the scumhunting this whole game? You could've been there at the lynch. You could've chimed in a few hours before and said why you wanted to stay on Mocsta. It wasn't at an ungodly hour for where you were. Your vote, no matter how good it is, does not absolve you of the poor standard of play you have showed us so far. I couldnt be there at the lynch and I wont be here and any deadline most likely, I have responded to this already.
Then replace out.
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On November 23 2013 15:49 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 15:34 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 23 2013 15:22 Onegu wrote:On November 23 2013 15:06 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 23 2013 14:55 Onegu wrote:On November 23 2013 11:43 cDgCorazon wrote:
About to eat dinner- giving my final brief reads just in case I die (I probably won't)
Coming into D2, I want to lynch Onegu. His play has been really shady and he needs to be under the gun D2. He does not care about who gets lynched which is a huge scum tell.
I'd also be cool lynching Jampi for similar reasons.
HF blaming Mocsta for the lynch is really scummy seeing as if HF was town and didn't like the lynch, he could just back off it.
I'd be down for lynching one of those three tomorrow.
Sciberia's vote was really shady as it came with no explanation at the buzzer. From what I gathered up, he did not have a scum read on Rayn yet voted for him (let me know sci if I missed a post)
Thrawn needs to have more of a presence in the thread and needs to stop buddying Mocsta and make his own reads.
I'm not interested in lynching anyone outside of these 5 as of now. Of course I will be flexible depending on what happens. So bad cora, take a look at when I voted what the wagons were, it was rayn with majority, and no one else with more than 1 vote. Why haven't you been a factor in the scumhunting this whole game? You could've been there at the lynch. You could've chimed in a few hours before and said why you wanted to stay on Mocsta. It wasn't at an ungodly hour for where you were. Your vote, no matter how good it is, does not absolve you of the poor standard of play you have showed us so far. I couldnt be there at the lynch and I wont be here and any deadline most likely, I have responded to this already. Then replace out. Omg cora not everyone can be around for deadlines, with people playing from multiple timezones its just not possible. And for you to be so eliteist like this is just dumb, if I only joined games where I could be around for deadline I couldnt join 5/6 of the games as they are mostly made for US and Europe deadlines.
The problem simply isn't that you can't be here for the deadlines, it's the fact that you do absolutely nothing in the 48 hours between deadlines.
If you helped town figure out a lynch with the time you had to play, I would not have a problem with it. The problem I have is that you don't help town get any lynch at all and it just seems like you don't care. Why should we keep you around?
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On November 23 2013 15:19 Aquanim wrote:
Also @Corazon: Why don't you want to lynch Rean? If you think he's town, convince me.
There are scummier people than Rean. I don't have a very strong town read on him, but I feel like other targets are better.
Sorry I forgot to answer this before.
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Also, this post:
On November 21 2013 13:32 Bereft wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 13:11 cDgCorazon wrote:
Bereft, I would like to know why you don't think we should lynch Onegu. I was really puzzled when you threw that read out (as were others) and I just want to know why you see Onegu in a good light. When you said you thought he was town I got this feeling that we weren't reading the same game. i like that he came into the thread with a bunch of off the cuff reads -- to me this reads as careless, unstructured, bold. Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 20:28 Onegu wrote:On November 20 2013 12:50 Rean wrote:On November 20 2013 12:37 cDgCorazon wrote:
I took a shower. Sorry for not wanting to smell bad.
Moc, I'm quite concerned that you have already used up >25% of your "self-allotted posts". If you're going to start spamming, it's going to be a problem.
Now to my goals/early game statements:
1. I'm not gonna make any meta crap posts. TBH I don't remember anyone's meta and it's ridiculously stupid logic. I'm not going to stand for it and I don't think you guys should either.
2. I'm voting for the scummiest person. My last game was Titanic and it came down to 3-4 days of "X is scum, Y/Z/Q is scum as well". That led the town way off of the path and allowed my scum team the easiest scum win in a very long time. I don't care if they're not on the two lynch trains that are going to form. It's not instant majority so as long as I feel like I'm voting for the scummiest person in my opinion, I'm going to be happy with my vote.
3. I'm going to do my best to not be just an onlooker. I'm gonna try and facilitate discussion and ask a lot of questions instead of just answering questions and throw my ideas out there and just create more chaos.
On that note, sciberia needs to stop analyzing the first page so hard and just discuss. We're not going to find scum on the first page. You guys just need to talk instead of being at each other's throats 30 minutes into the game.
Couldn't agree more. Also, don't shit up the thread with useless spam like the LXIII game please. I tried keeping up but the amount of shit posts just trolling/making useless jokes/comments is unbearable and makes it impossible to tell low-laying scum from trolling townies. If anyone goes around posting stupid oneliners without saying anything meaningful they have my vote >.> Reans first post into the thread and it just fakes activity. He doesnt say what he agrees with and there are multiple things to agree with, does he agree with all or only some he, never actually says what points he agrees with. This is a very scummy first post. Also if mocsta didnt retract his post limit on himself I was going to call him scum, but he did and I am ok with it for now. I do want to point out he only takes it after cora points out his spam. But unlike cora I thought it was scummy, because it was a easy way to avoid conversation. The was one more post from mocsta I didnt like will find it in moment it was post 4or 5 where he gives 3 scum reads with no reason and then says half the thread hasnt posted so his reads can change. Coras case on Sciberia is terribad and scummy. Anyway rean is really scumm though. Sorry Im at the mall but when I am home I will catchup on both of my games and be up late playing. Ill be checking in periodicly while Im at the mall though. if he's scum, this is not at all a "safe" post to bust into the thread with. i think it's on point that he calls mocsta's thread presence out. i really want to believe moc is town, but i keep seeing small red flags embedded in his posts. he's the first person to really do this, and if scum, i think this is also pretty bold because mocsta's obviously an aggressive player. i was accused of being scum and attempting to disrupt a town circle for telling mocsta to explain himself. he gives me a very very slight town lean (exact phrasing "starting to look better") at a time when it's totally unnecessary to do so, considering everyone else would most likely have slotted me into the "lurker, null, need to hear more from" category if prodded. admittedly his last post is a jumbled mess and i have no idea what he's saying with this: Show nested quote +Im going to go over your reads here and just ask you how you came to these because alot were null to me or the exact opposite of what you wrote so lets go.
1 hes trying to be clever there is nothing to be overdone and there is no way a troll post like this can be scummy, fuck the police was already taken...
2 why cant sciberia find the repeat and calling of you obv town scummy, but your troll post null as it was the first post in the thread? You getting that it is scum-scum interaction I dont understand how you get that read from this post.
3 how is this agressive, you put a pregame post restriction, then start the game numbering your posts, seems like you are going to keep your post restriction up. Calling you out for it isnt agressive its correct when all your first few posts are trolling.
4 this is fine
5 he made a troll response how is that overcompensated? Doesnt make sense and him not thinking the same as you is a scum read?
6 the first part of this is correct that post was null, the second part you can only get so much info from the first page and alot of page one was trolling. Telling someone to keep looking isnt scummy, its not damage control.
7 How is this a scumslip, 2 different people thought you were masons, I know you kinda think they are both scum at this point, but when you drop lines about being connected with thrawn people might think you are masoned, no way this is a scumslip.
8 again not a scumslip
9 reans first post is uber scummy. It fakes agreeing with coras null post, and then says nothing and there is no way he thinks he is saying something meaningful.
10 iirc you had already said you werent masons so he says the only other option how is that townie?
12 meh ok
12b also fine
13 you do the samething later on when you talking about haveing such a good town atmospher so how can you give him scum points for this?
14 syas nothing why you post this, I dont know his meta so this poat means nothing...
15 still dont know how you are seeing scum scum intreactions here. Maybe you are just tunneled at this point. Also at this point you say you like aqua calling out rean.
16 again why post a completely null post?
17 This is fine, but you are like he agrees with me that mean hes awesome town
18 this has been talked about already, why are you so tunneled on scum-scum here doesnt make since.
19 the post is good that means the timeing is fine also, even if I am argueing with someone and I see something that needs questioned I will question it reguardless of what else is going on
20 admit to being tunneled
21 this is fine
22 tunneled
23 meh no point in continueing on with cora, him moveing on is fine and how he did it was fine.
24 really wishywashy post but also slightly dinstanceing himself from rean while giveing him a town read at the same time. I think this is really scummy from you mocsta. Your thoughts on rean is just really odd. but i do think it's a very strong point in his favor that his posts are coming off as being written with a lack of care as to how they'd be perceived.
is a spot on read for you. Except for the fact that Bereft can't tell that not caring about the lynch is scummy.
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Basically with that post I agree with what Bereft said except that I feel the things about being "careless, unstructured, bold" (bold was a stretch) make you look really scummy.
If you show that you care about D2 lynch, I'll rethink voting for you. But for now, my vote stays on you.
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On November 23 2013 16:41 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 12:48 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 22 2013 12:27 Aquanim wrote:On November 22 2013 12:20 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 22 2013 12:14 Aquanim wrote:On November 22 2013 12:10 cDgCorazon wrote:
Doesn't Onegu's vote look really scummy with Rayn's flip? I'm not sure why Onegu's vote looks scummier due to Rayn's flip. Unless you're saying he didn't want to take responsibility for the Rayn lynch... which would apply to you in spades too. Could you clarify? Onegu dropped a vote away from Rayn and then peaced out. What would scum do if they knew town Rayn was probably going to be lynched 12 hours in advance? They wouldn't all pack on the Rayn wagon. That would be too obvious for a scum team. Wouldn't it make sense for Onegu to put a vote on Moc in the middle of the Rayn tunnel to look like he was making an effort to scum-hunt and then be able to distance himself from a Rayn lynch? I was transparent with my stance on Rayn and my decision to no-lynch. Onegu was very shady about it and I think it's because he is hiding the fact that he is scum. That's a fair point. Do you think the same applies to jampidampi and Rean, who both left their votes on me without pushing my lynch at all seriously? Personally I doubt they're all scum but I think there's at least one and possibly two scum in {Jampidampi, Rean, Onegu}. And that's what should be the focal point of N1. Posts this then follows up with these. Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 10:43 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 23 2013 10:32 Aquanim wrote:
@Corazon I'd like to see your thoughts on Jampidampi. No thread presence. He played a very little part in D1 and that doesn't reflect very well on my read on him. I think if there was a scum OFF the Rayn lynch, it is very likely to be him. I'd be down lynching him tomorrow if it comes to that. This only after being asked his thoughts on it. Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 11:43 cDgCorazon wrote:
About to eat dinner- giving my final brief reads just in case I die (I probably won't)
Coming into D2, I want to lynch Onegu. His play has been really shady and he needs to be under the gun D2. He does not care about who gets lynched which is a huge scum tell.
I'd also be cool lynching Jampi for similar reasons.
HF blaming Mocsta for the lynch is really scummy seeing as if HF was town and didn't like the lynch, he could just back off it.
I'd be down for lynching one of those three tomorrow.
Sciberia's vote was really shady as it came with no explanation at the buzzer. From what I gathered up, he did not have a scum read on Rayn yet voted for him (let me know sci if I missed a post)
Thrawn needs to have more of a presence in the thread and needs to stop buddying Mocsta and make his own reads.
I'm not interested in lynching anyone outside of these 5 as of now. Of course I will be flexible depending on what happens. And this. This is his only mention of Jamp, there is no mention of rean. But they should be the focal point of n1.
Onegu you're so bad. They lurked N1. Hard to talk to someone who isn't there.
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On November 23 2013 16:44 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 16:42 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 23 2013 16:41 Onegu wrote:On November 22 2013 12:48 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 22 2013 12:27 Aquanim wrote:On November 22 2013 12:20 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 22 2013 12:14 Aquanim wrote:On November 22 2013 12:10 cDgCorazon wrote:
Doesn't Onegu's vote look really scummy with Rayn's flip? I'm not sure why Onegu's vote looks scummier due to Rayn's flip. Unless you're saying he didn't want to take responsibility for the Rayn lynch... which would apply to you in spades too. Could you clarify? Onegu dropped a vote away from Rayn and then peaced out. What would scum do if they knew town Rayn was probably going to be lynched 12 hours in advance? They wouldn't all pack on the Rayn wagon. That would be too obvious for a scum team. Wouldn't it make sense for Onegu to put a vote on Moc in the middle of the Rayn tunnel to look like he was making an effort to scum-hunt and then be able to distance himself from a Rayn lynch? I was transparent with my stance on Rayn and my decision to no-lynch. Onegu was very shady about it and I think it's because he is hiding the fact that he is scum. That's a fair point. Do you think the same applies to jampidampi and Rean, who both left their votes on me without pushing my lynch at all seriously? Personally I doubt they're all scum but I think there's at least one and possibly two scum in {Jampidampi, Rean, Onegu}. And that's what should be the focal point of N1. Posts this then follows up with these. On November 23 2013 10:43 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 23 2013 10:32 Aquanim wrote:
@Corazon I'd like to see your thoughts on Jampidampi. No thread presence. He played a very little part in D1 and that doesn't reflect very well on my read on him. I think if there was a scum OFF the Rayn lynch, it is very likely to be him. I'd be down lynching him tomorrow if it comes to that. This only after being asked his thoughts on it. On November 23 2013 11:43 cDgCorazon wrote:
About to eat dinner- giving my final brief reads just in case I die (I probably won't)
Coming into D2, I want to lynch Onegu. His play has been really shady and he needs to be under the gun D2. He does not care about who gets lynched which is a huge scum tell.
I'd also be cool lynching Jampi for similar reasons.
HF blaming Mocsta for the lynch is really scummy seeing as if HF was town and didn't like the lynch, he could just back off it.
I'd be down for lynching one of those three tomorrow.
Sciberia's vote was really shady as it came with no explanation at the buzzer. From what I gathered up, he did not have a scum read on Rayn yet voted for him (let me know sci if I missed a post)
Thrawn needs to have more of a presence in the thread and needs to stop buddying Mocsta and make his own reads.
I'm not interested in lynching anyone outside of these 5 as of now. Of course I will be flexible depending on what happens. And this. This is his only mention of Jamp, there is no mention of rean. But they should be the focal point of n1. Onegu you're so bad. They lurked N1. Hard to talk to someone who isn't there. So what they werent there you can still talk about them, you didnt.
There's not much you can say about them other then analyzing their votes, which doesn't really help if they don't justify them. The conversation shifted elsewhere and I followed it. Nothing wrong with that. Stop grasping at straws.
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