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@Aquanim
Sure. Here's some more exposition on what makes Rean scummy to me.
+ Show Spoiler [Rean] +On November 20 2013 13:36 Rean wrote:
Aquanim, you're constantly asking but never saying much about what you think. Gimme one town and one scum and reasons why please. On November 20 2013 13:43 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 13:40 sciberbia wrote:On November 20 2013 13:36 Rean wrote:
Aquanim, you're constantly asking but never saying much about what you think. Gimme one town and one scum and reasons why please. Do you find this behavior suspicious from Aquanim or are you simply making an observation? An observation, it don't say much about his alignment. But I'm curious as to his answer.
I don't like Rean's start to the game. He looked to content to hover around the thread and not actually do anything. For example, what is the point of the bolded sentence above? He comes to no conclusion about Aquanim's alignment, but throws out some general remark about his play. I don't like it because it's dirt-throwy and I just don't see any reason to include that sentence as town. I see two motivations as scum: look like you are paying attention / doing something and throwing dirt at Aquanim.
+ Show Spoiler [calls me scummy] +On November 20 2013 13:57 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 13:51 Aquanim wrote:On November 20 2013 13:49 Rean wrote:On November 20 2013 13:45 Aquanim wrote:On November 20 2013 13:36 Rean wrote:
Aquanim, you're constantly asking but never saying much about what you think. Gimme one town and one scum and reasons why please. I reckon Thrawn's town because I liked the vote on Corazon. That is the kind of action which will get us doing truly productive things. (His unvote doesn't change that.) As for scum, I'm not sure yet. Not enough information. I don't much like Corazon's case on sciberbia but I can think of reasons why Corazon would make that argument as town, regardless of how good it is. I'm still null on Corazon but I'm very interested in what he chooses to do next. I still want an answer to this from you: On November 20 2013 13:04 Aquanim wrote:On November 20 2013 12:55 Rean wrote:On November 20 2013 12:52 Bereft wrote:
Rean, what do you think of Mocsta thus far? Talks a lot, seems awfully certain of everything he says. @Rean Given this, which way are you leaning on Mocsta in terms of alignment? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=435582¤tpage=7#127 Ah yes, my bad. Do you think Corazon's argument that sciberbia is scum is persuasive? Why or why not? Persuasive...it's a good argument. Sciberbia was being more laidback, trying to avoid comitting to anything, so it definitely makes him look scummy. Overall the kind of argument that gets discussion started and gets us somewhere useful, I quite like it. Guess persuasive would be a decent way to describe it.
He has to be practically talked into his first read. He calls me scummy only when specifically asked to comment. His play in this post and in general feels reactive and not proactive.
Repeatedly calling out lurkers on D1 is typical of scum in my experience. There really isn't anything to say about them. They're lurking. It's obvious. But if scum feel some heat they may try to shift the spotlight elsewhere. And there's nobody easier to criticize than people who haven't posted at all.
+ Show Spoiler [excessive attention to lurkers] +On November 20 2013 14:00 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 13:57 sciberbia wrote:
@Rean
What is your strongest scumread right now and why? Strongest doesnt say much atm since 5 out of 12 have been silent so far but I'm not feeling so good about you for reasons I already explained. On November 21 2013 04:37 Rean wrote:
Other than that, Lonemeow is lurking hard. Whether he's simply not around or choosing to lay low I don't know but I want to hear some more.
On November 21 2013 09:08 Rean wrote:
Of course. I definitely didn't attempt to pressure 2 others (scib, already explained why 500 times + LoneMeow who is still lurking it up) while keeping my vote on you.
On November 20 2013 15:50 Rean wrote:
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And the lack of 5 people is rather disappointing still.
+ Show Spoiler +On November 20 2013 15:50 Rean wrote:Smartass comment that I couldn't resist: + Show Spoiler +On November 20 2013 15:28 Mocsta wrote:post 10 On November 20 2013 15:29 Mocsta wrote:post 12 consider getting one of these, you could use it :3 More seriously: Mocsta, good post by post analysis but I don't agree with it all. Your points on both Scib and Corazon make sense but I think you're falling into the "he must be scum so I'll try to interpret everything he says as scummy" trap a little with Cora. In particular: + Show Spoiler +On November 20 2013 13:24 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 13:20 Aquanim wrote:
@Corazon
I'd like you to elaborate more on why you think sciberbia is scum. I don't entirely understand your argument at present. He's trying to get us to tunnel each other early so he can just sit around and piggyback on town lynches and point the finger at others. This is demonstrated when he essentially copies my post asking thrawn if he was a mason (deliberately, his post was at least 2-3 minutes after mine) and then decides that he can take my words and twist them when I pressure him about it. This is what troubles me about sciberia right now. seems like a legitimate point to me rather than a scum-slip. But it could be a way of distancing himself from Scib if he flips red. I also want to see Aquanim under a bit of pressure to see how he reacts but let's not do everything at once. And the lack of 5 people is rather disappointing still.
This post has been covered. He agrees with Mocsta's conclusions but then accuses Mocsta of confirmation bias in coming to those conclusions. Seems awkward from a townie perspective.
As I said before, one thing I do find townie is his irritation at me calling him scum and his insistence that I explain myself.
+ Show Spoiler [scummy post] +On November 21 2013 11:37 Rean wrote:
I don't like this Onegu bandwagon. Feels to me like it's an attempt to drive away the lynch from Aquanim to an easy to lynch target. While his posting is certainly scummy it could just be legitimately bad play. However he's still a better bet than most.
Aquanim is still going around repeating points that have already been answered and I feel the same. But I'm scared I might be tunneling too hard so I'll go reread his filter with an open mind.
Sciberbia...while your reasoning is anything but original, it's understandable so not gonna push that read on me any further.
I don't like though that you're yet again trying to go for someone already mentioned (Onegu).
Why is that everyone here is so anxious about me mentioning lurkers though? It seems to me like with your attitudes you automatically assume anyone that mentions lurkers ever is scum, but that way people can get away with lurking hard and not contributing a god damn thing. I find it really fishy that both Aqua and Scib seem so paranoid of me for trying to call out lurkers >.>
He's wishy washy and seems scared to take a firm stand on anything in this post. Is he calling me scum or not? I don't really know. He kinda is but kinda isn't. Is he calling Onegu scum or not? He kinda is but kinda isn't. Even Aquanim he is hedging his bets on. Why does he not like this Onegu wagon at all? Reasoning is flimsy.
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@Onegu
I'm unconvinced by your case on Bereft. Here are a few problems I see with it. Convince me I'm wrong.
In the post where you made a case on Mocsta, you quoted Mocsta's case on Cora, but the quoting was messed up so I assume Bereft must have read it as YOUR case on Cora with a case on Mocsta tacked on the end. I guess this proves that he wasn't reading very closely, but I don't see how this makes him scum. Your post was hard to follow. He basically said that he couldn't understand what you were talking about at all so he probably only skimmed it and assumed it was your case + vote on Cora.
It's not true that he never mentions Rean again. He has mentioned rean as someone we should consider lynching today. I don't blame him for not saying more about rean as rean has literally not been posting so it's hard to talk about him. I just went through Rean's filter for Aquanim and I had trouble finding things that weren't already beaten to death.
On November 23 2013 22:31 Onegu wrote:
And I hate this post he tunneled rayn the entire time, gives reasons why he was ok to lynch him even if he wasnt scum, then says yeah hindsight it was a bad lynch.
This would be a valid point if the bolded were true, but I don't think it is. Bereft never said lynching a town rayn would be good for town, as far as I can recall.
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@Holyflare
You've stated that you thought claiming doctor would allow us NOT to focus on you today, but that reasoning is pretty dubious to me. Did you really expect everyone to be like "oh OK HF is confirmed doc"? Surely you anticipated people would heavily question your claim right? How do you think this helps town?
Also, reiterating my question from before, did you not consider switching your prot target from thrawn when it was clear that a bunnch of players saw your claim? If scum shot at all last night, wouldn't it likely have been someone other than thrawn given that chances are they saw your claim?
And finally, can you explain how thrawn was your strongest townread after you seem to have suspicion of him in these posts?
On November 22 2013 12:59 Holyflare wrote:
Thrawn also quite clearly posted in bold and all caps that rayn was most definitely town and also voted him. So there's that too.
On November 22 2013 13:00 Holyflare wrote:
Let me break this down for everyone else:
Onegu posts that rayn is town, onegu knows rayn's meta (thrawn and mocsta know this)
Mocsta sees onegu is afk, doesn't try and confirm rayn's meta to people, policy lynches him
Thrawn, calls rayn obviously towny, lynches him
Aqua, ignores everything rayn says, policy lynches him
At least 1 of you is scum
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re Mocsta
On November 24 2013 09:31 Mocsta wrote:
- Terrible case on CorazonI
My case was not terrible at all. If you are town you are clearly looking at D1 with absurd confirmation bias. When you originally read my case on Cora, you liked points 1 and 3, but didn't like point 2. Then later when you called me scum, you completely reversed this assessment of my case.
Also you called cora 90% scum on D1 and now you say his D1 makes him 100% town.
Consider that you are looking at the exact same evidence and coming to the opposite conclusion. That's because you are deciding on a conclusion first and fitting the evidence to it afterwards. You need to clear your head and consider evidence objectively.
On November 24 2013 09:31 Mocsta wrote:
- Came in and gave a town read on Rayn, and then semi-AFK'd, he stated he wanted Onegu lynched as a priority but it was clear he was happy playing second-fiddle
If you think I was happy with a rayn lynch then you need to reread my filter. This is again you fitting evidence to a conclusion rather than a conclusion to evidence.
On November 24 2013 09:31 Mocsta wrote:
- Gives a defense of Bereft; and if Onegu was his best scum read, *SHOULD* have followed through with why Onegu is intentionally misrepresenting play and why Onegu is the best lynch for today.
What Aquanim said. I don't know 100% that Onegu is scum or I'd be voting him instead of questioning him. When talking to somebody to try to determine their alignment I am going to question them as if they are town. Obviously I'm not going to get Onegu to admit he is scum so why shout at him.
+ Show Spoiler [Mocsta's Onegu defense] +On November 24 2013 07:55 Mocsta wrote:
A couple things
(1) I'm leaning towards town being Onegu,
a. I've never seen a scum Onegu make a case
b. Even though its poorly written, I can see understand what he is fixated on.
Scibs, I actually disagree with your point of view regarding the interpretation of Oengu original Mocsta case.
Yes, it was poorly written and extremely easy to skim over and misinterpret.
However, the issue is that Bereft decided to analyse that post in order to give a town read on somebody.
Do you not find it odd that someone would only "skim/barely read" a post in order to give out such an important read.
Consider further that this was the most important content in Onegu filter at the time.
Also your reasons for thinking Onegu are town are really wrong. In the 1 game I played with him he made several cases as scum. Also the bolded is just simply not what happened. Bereft analyzed the rest of his filter and gave a town read. He chose NOT to analyze that huge post.
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@Aquanim
Desert Mini Mafia. Cases on sylencia and sn0_man at various points in the game iirc. Not as large as his case on bereft but imo they were stronger cases analytically.
@Aquanim, Cora
How likely do you think Mocsta is to be scum? I wasn't a big fan of his D1, and his D2 so far looks pretty troubling to me.
+ Show Spoiler +On November 24 2013 09:26 Mocsta wrote:
I'm not happy with how this cycle has started.
Theres been a couple cases - resulting in delurks to dismiss (e.g. Scibs to Onegu); but in my opinion, no one has seriously tried to drive the thread towards a lynch.
Maybe the weekend is a valid excuse - heck I was busy as, yesterday; and somewhat today.
However, I still expect town to make check-ins (much like I did yesterday). Its not hard, is it?
This leads to be disappointed people like Rean/jampidampi are non-existent, and in particular, players like JJD/Bereft have barely posted.
The game is not solved, everyone needs to step up and contribute more: query posts, build cases, push a scum target
So he gives a lecture about how we all need to step it up and get a scum lynch today. But then what does he proceed to do? Do a massive post-by-post analysis 'proving' how Cora is TOWN.
+ Show Spoiler +On November 24 2013 09:31 Mocsta wrote:
I obviously haven't had a chance to look into Scibs filter in detail (or at all) since i was consumed with Corazon.
Things I remember from Scibs
- Terrible case on Corazon
- Came in and gave a town read on Rayn, and then semi-AFK'd, he stated he wanted Onegu lynched as a priority but it was clear he was happy playing second-fiddle
- Gives a defense of Bereft; and if Onegu was his best scum read, *SHOULD* have followed through with why Onegu is intentionally misrepresenting play and why Onegu is the best lynch for today.
Essentially 2 cycles in a row, Scibs is happy emailing everyone a bulletin of his intentions and doing nothing to campaign for them.
##Unvote
##Vote: Sciberbia
If someone wants to filter dive him whilst I'm gone, and prove otherwise - go ahead.
until that point in time, he is most definitely the best lynch for today.
Then he puts about 10% of that effort into a bad, half-assed case on me in which he admits he has't even reread my filter, and votes for me. So as I see it, he's writing a bad case about me without any real effort and I don't know if he really has a reasonable expectation of getting me lynched today. How can he conclude that I'm 'most definitely' the best lynch without even reading my filter? His talking about Cora and myself just side-tracked us even further.
Also I find it suspicious how his reads flip-flop so hard that he never really commits to anything at all. First rayn was a policy lynch. Then he says 80% of the reason for voting rayn is because he thinks rayn is scum. And then after rayn flips town he says that it was always just a policy lynch. He keeps flip-flopping on me, Cora, Aquanim, Onegu.. pretty much every read and it's really hindering our progress, especially when he brings up old stuff and reverses his previous opinion on it.
In conclusion, I think Mocsta could very well be scum and want some outside opnions of his cases on me and recent play. Do you think his vote on me looks like a townie move?
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On November 24 2013 11:44 Holyflare wrote:
Also @ scib. My actual thought process was that I have contributed nothing and likely couldn't till the end of the weekend, if I just tell them I'm actually the doctor right now scum can get rid of me instead of someone who contributes and it would avoid a lot of wasted effort on this day focusing on me. It doesn't matter who i saved really and who i announced because if I didn't die then they saved their kp for a double kill the next night. If by chance they missed what I said then thrawn was a likely target.
Wait so you purposefully claimed doctor with time before the deadline in the hopes that scum would see your claim and shoot you last night?
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It looks like the lynch is coming down to Onegu and HF. Given that rean/jamp are increasingly looking like modkills, I don't think anyone else is realistically on the table at this point.
Claim aside, the rest of HF's play makes him likely scum. He was granted a new lease on life by not being shot and what has he done with it? Nothing really. Just rambling on about his claim being good for town. Doesn't seem to be making any effort to solve the game. Given that he expects to be dead soon this is pretty scummy.
Still I think lynching him is a significantly worse play than lynching Onegu today. If he is the real doctor, that would be a HUGE mistake. But if he is scum, we don't really lose anything by lynching him tomorrow instead of today. So I'm inclined to think we should let him be for a day and hope he is either shot N2 or makes a save (or both). If neither we should probably lynch him tomorrow.
One point really I liked from Cora's case was how Onegu initially showed suspicion on rayn, helping to build the pressure against him, but then changed his mind when a rayn wagon materialized, parked his vote on Mocsta and afk'd. The timing is pretty suspicious, because he helps build pressure against rayn, but then absolves himself from the townie lynch wagon, and blames the lynch on Mocsta and Bereft. This point on top of Onegu's mediocre Bereft case keeps him as the best lynch right now.
I'm holding onto my vote for now but it will be on Onegu unless he convinces me otherwise.
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Also we really need to get this straight. If Rean is going to be replaced rather than modkilled I think we should also consider lynching that slot today.
Will rean/jamp be modkilled or replaced if they do not vote today?
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On November 24 2013 15:46 Bereft wrote:
@Cora - i find it weak, but i can see where he's coming from.
@Sciberia - how does this relate to your thoughts on Mocsta? do you think it's possible they're scum together?
Yea I'm still suspicous of Mocsta as well which makes me feel small misgivings about the Onegu lynch. Is it possible Onegu is town and has been right about Mocsta all along? It's a haunting possibility.
But I also know that Onegu is a good scum player and likes to bus. I think it's possible they are scum together.
Basically my thought process is like this;
-- If both Onegu and Mocsta are scum, which I think is definitely possible, Onegu is a good lynch.
-- If only one of them is scum, I think it's possible it's Mocsta, but it's more likely Onegu. So Onegu is a good lynch.
-- If neither of them is scum my reads are kinda off but if I'm not gonna base my vote off my reads then what am I gonna base it on. I just have to trust in my reads.
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@Mocsta
So here I am most definitely the best lynch today:
+ Show Spoiler +On November 24 2013 09:31 Mocsta wrote:I didn't think it would take 13minutes for a response. But whatevers, I obviously haven't had a chance to look into Scibs filter in detail (or at all) since i was consumed with Corazon. Things I remember from Scibs - Terrible case on Corazon - Came in and gave a town read on Rayn, and then semi-AFK'd, he stated he wanted Onegu lynched as a priority but it was clear he was happy playing second-fiddle - Gives a defense of Bereft; and if Onegu was his best scum read, *SHOULD* have followed through with why Onegu is intentionally misrepresenting play and why Onegu is the best lynch for today. Essentially 2 cycles in a row, Scibs is happy emailing everyone a bulletin of his intentions and doing nothing to campaign for them. ##Unvote##Vote: SciberbiaIf someone wants to filter dive him whilst I'm gone, and prove otherwise - go ahead. until that point in time, he is most definitely the best lynch for today.
And here 4 hours later I'm not even in your top 4.
+ Show Spoiler +On November 24 2013 13:04 Mocsta wrote:
I'm liking a lunch between jjd/onegu jampi/rean today.
jampi/rean might be modkilled so I'm going to join and vote
##unvote
##votte: jarjardrinks
Nobody "did a filter dive while you were gone" and proved I was town, so what's the reasoning for this?
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On November 24 2013 16:07 Mocsta wrote:
but I'm surprised u think onegu is a good scum player?
he enjoys playing scum,but skates by all his games by being allowed to useless as town or scum. hardly anything to be proud of.
being able to 'skate by' is pretty good scum play, no? The objective of playing scum is to never get lynched.
The one game I played with Onegu he was the sole surviving scum which won his team the game. On top of that, my personal read on him was town the entire game. So yea I think he's a good scum player.
On November 24 2013 16:07 Mocsta wrote:
what do you think regarding the discussion prompters I put up from berefts comments?
Can you point me to the specific post? You've been talking to bereft a lot recently and I'm not sure which post you're referring to.
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On November 24 2013 16:16 cDgCorazon wrote:
Being scum and "skating by" isn't the sign of good scum play. It's the sign of either bad town play or just sheer luck.
Being scum and actively pushing townie lynches and avoiding suspicion is good scum play.
Scum win the game by not getting lynched. Not by actively pushing townie lynches and avoiding suspicion. Those things help, but in the end their win condition is to not get lynched, any way they can. So I consider skating by = good scum play.
This is kinda irrelevant though so last I'm saying about it.
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Looking at JJD's filter, this just jumped out at me.
+ Show Spoiler [JJD] +On November 22 2013 11:07 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 09:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 22 2013 09:30 JarJarDrinks wrote:On November 22 2013 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Look. I am really sure bot Rean and Jampidampi are town.
Rean i have given my reasons on.
Jampidampi because of his stance on me. Look how i went batshit crazy on him He stayed calm, he did not take the easy way out of saying "yeah rayn is scum, fuck you martyr shitting up the thread". Instead he said "i know what you did in NWM, you do this stuff, why am i scum according to you?". That was so really townie. WHAT??? That was the exact reason you gave him a scumread earlier. You basically said that he was scum because he should be voting for you for shitting up the thread. On November 22 2013 00:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Jampidampi that's a really bad post and there was no townie motivation behind my last 10 posts (towards anyone else than Mocsta - who i should probably realize is incapable to see the point anyways, my bad) because that's what i was trying to do.
I can't find any reasons why you should have not voted for me unless you know i am town and therefore scum. Yeah you have no idea how i play. But your vote is on me and you are scum so idgaf. WTF kind of response is this? I point out a direct contridiction and your response is "you have no idea how i play". WTF does that even mean? How you play is that you give someone a scumread and then use that exact same reasoning later to give them a townread? On November 22 2013 11:48 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Did cora just walk in and take away a flip? Cora, you're really voting for no-lynch?
These two posts were in the hour leading up to the lynch. These are his ONLY two posts in the 2.5 hours leading up to the lynch. This is really scummy.
He cearly had the thread open, as he responded to a post from rayn and from Cora's vote. But he wasn't partaking in ANY of the discussion in the final hour of the rayn lynch. I remember that several of us were heatedly debating whether we should lynch onegu, cora, rayn. I remember our discussion as we tried to build a counter-wagon. It was pretty hectic.
But JJD was just calmly watching it all? That strikes me as really scummy. Shouldn't he have been wanting to make his voice heard? He doesn't reassure people that rayn is the right lynch. He doesn't question the people calling rayn town. He doesn't express interest in any possible counter wagon. It looks like he's just happy to twiddle his thumbs as rayn gets lynched, which given that he flipped town is extremeley suspicious.
Going to re-read the rest of his filter which I honestly haven't been paying much attention to, but his actions right before the lynch are really suspicous.
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On November 24 2013 16:37 Aquanim wrote:
...bah, no. I can't really vote him. Either he dies tonight or there's at least the possibility he gets a save.
##Unvote
Let me think about this.
Yea and going with the assumption that scum Delayed last night, even if they shoot him he can still save their other shot. And if they don't shoot him he has a pretty good chance to guess one one of the two correctly.
If he really is a doctor his being alive tonight will be a major thorn in scum's side.
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Lurking through the rayn lynch is by far the single scummiest thing anybody has done this entire game. I can't even imagine myself, as town, reading the 100 posts between pages 50 and 55 (the hour leading up to the lynch), and not posting my thoughts. That's crunch time. That's when the game is won or lost. It's when all the drama happens. The lynch was in question and everybody else online was vehemently discussing it, but JJD was just sitting there passing the time.
On the other hand, I can easily see scum doing it. Rayn looked likely to be lynched so scum probably didn't feel much pressure. There's no reason for scum to be posting with a townie lynch coming down the pipeline.
Furthermore here JJD expresses his opinion that Onegu is town and HF is scum, but says he will reread.
+ Show Spoiler +On November 22 2013 22:23 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Gonna reread Onegu but I haven't thought he was scum @ all this game so I doubt that's gonna change. Not crazy about Holyflare so gonna look close @ him.
He never posts the results of this reread. He hasn't been defending Onegu today even though he's looked like the most likely lynch candidate. He hasn't been pushing an HF lynch either. As thrawn says he's too content doing nothing.
Combined with what aquanim and thrawn have posted, this feels really right to me. Better than every other lynch.
##Vote: JarJarDrinks
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@thrawn
What do you think about the arguments made by myself and others that HF is strategically a bad lynch today? I think it's a strictly better play to wait and see what happens N2 and lynch him tomorrow if necessary.
Also can you even envision being online but not posting in those last couple hours before the lynch yesterday? I just don't see how JJD could do that as town.
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Going to take this a step further.
Here are all the posts made by people online within two hours of the lynch yesterday, broken down by person.
The counts alone don't really do this justice. I wish I could quote it all but too many posts. Look at the filters of the non JJD players on this list. They are mostly angry/emotional/frantic/worried. Everybody else was pushing hard to get their voice heard and convince other people of their thoughts. Either townies who care about the lynch or scum doing a decent job of faking it. Except JJD. He's content to do nothing, be ignored, and not partake in this crucial discussion.
thrawn: 37 posts in the last 2 hours
JJD: 2 posts in the last 2 hours (not even relevant)
+ Show Spoiler +On November 22 2013 11:07 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 09:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 22 2013 09:30 JarJarDrinks wrote:On November 22 2013 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Look. I am really sure bot Rean and Jampidampi are town.
Rean i have given my reasons on.
Jampidampi because of his stance on me. Look how i went batshit crazy on him He stayed calm, he did not take the easy way out of saying "yeah rayn is scum, fuck you martyr shitting up the thread". Instead he said "i know what you did in NWM, you do this stuff, why am i scum according to you?". That was so really townie. WHAT??? That was the exact reason you gave him a scumread earlier. You basically said that he was scum because he should be voting for you for shitting up the thread. On November 22 2013 00:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Jampidampi that's a really bad post and there was no townie motivation behind my last 10 posts (towards anyone else than Mocsta - who i should probably realize is incapable to see the point anyways, my bad) because that's what i was trying to do.
I can't find any reasons why you should have not voted for me unless you know i am town and therefore scum. Yeah you have no idea how i play. But your vote is on me and you are scum so idgaf. WTF kind of response is this? I point out a direct contridiction and your response is "you have no idea how i play". WTF does that even mean? How you play is that you give someone a scumread and then use that exact same reasoning later to give them a townread? On November 22 2013 11:48 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Did cora just walk in and take away a flip? Cora, you're really voting for no-lynch?
Cora: 8 posts (in the last half hour)
Bereft: 18 posts in the last 2 hours
rayn: 61 posts in the last 2 hours
Mocsta: 17 posts in the last 2 hours
sciberbia: 13 posts in the last 2 hours
aquanim: 31 posts in the last 2 hours
even HF: 12 posts in the last 2 hours
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Hi Chezinu.
Have you been following the game?
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On November 24 2013 21:26 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2013 21:09 sciberbia wrote:
Hi Chezinu.
Have you been following the game? Nah, just read the rules. Can you explain your story on Day 1? Please include the cause or lack of cause of the mob, the evil deeds of police brutally, friendly fire, and the hero/martyrs among the crowd. I will soon provide a resolution to unite the people against the tyranny of this criminal police state. I'm telling you, the police are nothing but organized criminals. Yes, they are... Mafia.
D1 tl;dr
wagon on Aquanim which then went away in favor of
wagon on Rean which then went away in favor of
wagon on rayn who was lynched and flipped vanilla town
cause of the mob - to rid itself of the troublesome young raynpelikoneet who was disliked by many of his fellow mobsters and was even suspected by some of working for the police
evil deeds of police (brutally) - the police didn't kill anyone last night.. not sure how I can describe this brutally
friendly fire - well at least 4 mobsters voted for raynpelikoneet
martyrs - raynpelikoneet, so enamored with Rean that he was willing to die in Rean's stead
heroes - sciberbia
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On November 24 2013 21:54 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2013 21:43 sciberbia wrote:On November 24 2013 21:26 Chezinu wrote:On November 24 2013 21:09 sciberbia wrote:
Hi Chezinu.
Have you been following the game? Nah, just read the rules. Can you explain your story on Day 1? Please include the cause or lack of cause of the mob, the evil deeds of police brutally, friendly fire, and the hero/martyrs among the crowd. I will soon provide a resolution to unite the people against the tyranny of this criminal police state. I'm telling you, the police are nothing but organized criminals. Yes, they are... Mafia. D1 tl;dr wagon on Aquanim which then went away in favor of wagon on Rean which then went away in favor of wagon on rayn who was lynched and flipped vanilla town cause of the mob - to rid itself of the troublesome young raynpelikoneet who was disliked by many of his fellow mobsters and was even suspected by some of working for the police evil deeds of police (brutally) - the police didn't kill anyone last night.. not sure how I can describe this brutallyfriendly fire - well at least 4 mobsters voted for raynpelikoneet martyrs - raynpelikoneet, so enamored with Rean that he was willing to die in Rean's steadheroes - sciberbia *Sigh* berbia.... Why do you side with the oppressors of our people? How can you say that you are blind to their abuse control and power? What is worse is that you claim to know that Rean is one with our family and mock raynpel's love of our dear brother. You stop not there, but slander the name of our fallen brother raynpel by calling him young and troublesome. I am concerned about your allegiance to the family. And you call yourself a hero?
I suspect the police have little power here. Perhaps one of them has gained the trust of our mob but the rest seem to cling to the shadows. Rean may very well be one of them; it is dubious whether he is one with our family, as he vanished amid suspicions yesterday and has not been seen since. I assure you I am the hero this town needs. Lend me your vote today and witness as I smite down the opressor that is JarJarDrinks.
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